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HereticHulk
15th September 2007, 03:20 PM
What's the debunkers take on Mr. Grove?

I did a forum search and found (like many other debunkings here) nothing but conjecture.

(Sorry for the long quote, I cannot post links yet)

http://www.8thestate.com/?page_id=45

I removed the long quotation from the Web site and posted the link for you. In future, you could post the link with spaces and we'll be glad to edit it for you. Please re-read your membership agreement, especially Rules 4 and 6. And welcome to the forum.
CptColumbo
15th September 2007, 03:57 PM
I believe, that while he personally has never been mentioned, most of (if not all) his points have been raised.

Try to post a link to it next time even if you can't yet, rather than post the entire text, as this could be considered a violation of the TOS.
Gravy
15th September 2007, 04:12 PM
Welcome to the forums, Heretic. Grove was discussed here, long ago. He's batpoo crazy.

ETA: here's one example. (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1675159&postcount=1015)
Calcas
15th September 2007, 04:29 PM
Welcome to the forums, Heretic. Grove was discussed here, long ago. He's batpoo crazy.

ETA: here's one example. (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1675159&postcount=1015)

You beat me to it! I was just about to post the same link.

Your tin foil hat seems to be stronger than mine. Am I not tipping my "handler" enough?

Why do nutcases like these keep resurfacing?
Gravy
15th September 2007, 04:38 PM
Why do nutcases like these keep resurfacing?Squirrels hunting for sustenance keep digging them up.
Drudgewire
15th September 2007, 04:44 PM
Welcome to the forums, Heretic. Grove was discussed here, long ago. He's batpoo crazy.

ETA: here's one example. (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1675159&postcount=1015)


I sent a variety of faxes, letters, and parcels to the attention of Harrison Ford

:boggled:

Also, Dyncorp snuff gets a bad rap. They are shot very tastefully and the killings themselves are always put in context. "This is what happens if you don't brush your teeth," "the designated hitter rule hurts the game"... yes they die but at least there's usually a positive message in the end.
Gravy
15th September 2007, 04:51 PM
Also, Dyncorp snuff gets a bad rap. They are shot very tastefully and the killings themselves are always put in context. "This is what happens if you don't brush your teeth," "the designated hitter rule hurts the game"... yes they die but at least there's usually a positive message in the end.Agreed. The production values are exceptionally high as industrial snuff films go. My favorite is "File cabinets: heavier than you think."
CptColumbo
15th September 2007, 04:55 PM
I liked the characterizations in "Don't Shake the Soda Machine."
Drudgewire
15th September 2007, 04:55 PM
Agreed. The production values are exceptionally high as industrial snuff films go. My favorite is "File cabinets: heavier than you think."
Too bad the sequel: "FC2: Top-Heavy Loading of Doom" was such a letdown. :(

Although the chainsaw to the one girl who refused to move files to a lower drawer because she only broke at end of letters was pretty cool.
HereticHulk
15th September 2007, 05:34 PM
Welcome to the forums, Heretic. Grove was discussed here, long ago. He's batpoo crazy.




batpoo crazy?

That is a very good response to the claims he has presented.

Do you have anything besides conjecture to refute any of his claims?

I expected more from such a prestigious forum than conjecture and name calling?
Drudgewire
15th September 2007, 05:37 PM
batpoo crazy?

That is a very good response to the claims he has presented.

Do you have anything besides conjecture to refute any of his claims?

I expected more from such a prestigious forum than conjecture and name calling?

Except it isn't namecalling. The dude really is batpoo crazy.
Par
15th September 2007, 05:38 PM
I expected more from such a prestigious forum than conjecture and name calling?


Dammit! Who typed a question mark on the Teleprompter?
Slayhamlet
15th September 2007, 06:41 PM
batpoo crazy?

That is a very good response to the claims he has presented.

Do you have anything besides conjecture to refute any of his claims?

I expected more from such a prestigious forum than conjecture and name calling?

The man has no credibility, Heretic. Since you seem to think otherwise, am I correct in assuming you also believe, along with him, that oil is not a fossil fuel, that software companies print their own money, that construction began on the Twin Towers in 1971 (we'll disregard the Sept. 11 part), that the Taliban stole hundreds of billions [of dollars] in bullion (not bouillon) from the WTC vaults, and that the 2003 earthquake in Iran, or any other earthquake, was artificially caused by HAARP (which is not a weapon)? These are just some of his more outlandish claims; nearly everything he says is either a complete fabrication or a misrepresentation.

ETA: Oh, good God. I can see from another thread that you already believe a directed energy weapon was used at the WTC. Your prospects are not looking good here.
Calcas
15th September 2007, 08:11 PM
The man has no credibility, Heretic. Since you seem to think otherwise, am I correct in assuming you also believe, along with him, that oil is not a fossil fuel, that software companies print their own money, that construction began on the Twin Towers in 1971 (we'll disregard the Sept. 11 part), that the Taliban stole hundreds of billions [of dollars] in bullion (not bouillon) from the WTC vaults, and that the 2003 earthquake in Iran, or any other earthquake, was artificially caused by HAARP (which is not a weapon)? These are just some of his more outlandish claims; nearly everything he says is either a complete fabrication or a misrepresentation.

ETA: Oh, good God. I can see from another thread that you already believe a directed energy weapon was used at the WTC. Your prospects are not looking good here.

But...but...but...

He asked if you had anything to refute any of his claims.

Apparently you DON'T!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......you gubmint disinfo shill!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....
Gravy
15th September 2007, 10:58 PM
batpoo crazy?

That is a very good response to the claims he has presented.

Do you have anything besides conjecture to refute any of his claims?

I expected more from such a prestigious forum than conjecture and name calling?After you examine the claims I bolded in the link I gave, give me your opinion of Grove's mental health. Fair enough?

ETA:
ETA: Oh, good God. I can see from another thread that you already believe a directed energy weapon was used at the WTC. Your prospects are not looking good here.Never mind, Heretic. Buh-bye!