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greymatters
17th September 2007, 05:43 PM
Professor: Science Proves God's Existence (http://www.wsmv.com/news/13358825/detail.html)
Proof Comes With 'Hard Nose Physics', Professor Says
Reported By Tom Randles

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A controversial college physics professor claims he can prove God exists.

"God is the cosmological singularity. I'm not being blasphemous. I'm just following the ancient tradition that says science put the tenant of religion to the experimental test, and we find God exists,” said Tulane University professor Frank Tipler.

He said he believes his findings are divine.

“It's coming out not of paleontology or religious mysticism, but hard nose physics, which I like,” he said.

Ignoring the school of thought that science and religion are separate, Tipler uses hard core scientific principles like Einstein's general relativity and quantum mechanics to make his point.

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JoeEllison
17th September 2007, 05:45 PM
He's delusional. He's not stupid, so for him to be so wrong means that he must have a mental defect.

Miss Anthrope
17th September 2007, 05:48 PM
His conclusion is hardly scientific.

PixyMisa
17th September 2007, 05:50 PM
Sounds like Tipler has finally lost it.

logical muse
17th September 2007, 05:53 PM
“It's coming out not of paleontology or religious mysticism, but hard nose physics, which I like,” he said.

Does he mean nose physics of a particularly difficult type, or the physics of hard noses?

Whichever it is, it's good to see he likes it.

mijopaalmc
17th September 2007, 05:54 PM
Why is being brought up again (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=81894)?

Puppycow
17th September 2007, 07:33 PM
Which God's existence is he claiming to have proved? Thor? Amon Ra? Amaterasu Omikami?

Miss Anthrope
17th September 2007, 07:39 PM
Which God's existence is he claiming to have proved? Thor? Amon Ra? Amaterasu Omikami?

I really hope it's Thor!

lionking
17th September 2007, 07:43 PM
He also believes that physics "justifies" (whatever that means) the birth of Jesus and the resurrection of the dead! I wish I were in his class. Evidence and proof are obviously not important. He would have to pass everything put forward, provided the student believed.......

Loss Leader
17th September 2007, 07:45 PM
I really hope it's Thor!


As played by Vincent D'Onofrio (http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/adventuresinbabysittingcharacters.htm).

Puppycow
17th September 2007, 08:04 PM
He also believes that physics "justifies" (whatever that means) the birth of Jesus and the resurrection of the dead! I wish I were in his class. Evidence and proof are obviously not important. He would have to pass everything put forward, provided the student believed.......

You're pretty optimistic. I'm afraid he would be arbitrary and play favorites according to his own likes and dislikes.

lionking
17th September 2007, 08:06 PM
You're pretty optimistic. I'm afraid he would be arbitrary and play favorites according to his own likes and dislikes.
You are probably right. Loopy thinking would lead to loopy marking.

Jerry Tourte
17th September 2007, 08:23 PM
It seems odd that Tipler would read so much into Einstein's "god does not play dice" comment, when he meant that to imply that quantum physics was incorrect. Einstein never liked the idea. Also, I wonder how a theory of probability could indicate a deterministic universe. Have I missed something?

UnrepentantSinner
17th September 2007, 08:29 PM
...said Tulane University professor Frank Tipler.

That's all I needed to read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Tipler

PixyMisa
18th September 2007, 05:14 AM
Tipler's "Omega Point" could be idle speculation from a competent enough scientist. This new stuff, though, is just silly.

logical muse
18th September 2007, 06:27 AM
I really hope it's Thor!
Thor picked up a lady at a bar. After a night of intense intimate relations, the lady realised she didn't know his name. She asked.

"I'm Thor", he replied.

"You're thore? I won't be able to thit for a week!"

Wudang
18th September 2007, 07:29 AM
"tenant of religion"? Does he mean tenet?

fuelair
18th September 2007, 08:07 AM
Tulane U. really knows how to pick'em!!