crop circle a nazi swatztika

[firecoins]

In NJ they found a crop circle in the shape of a swatztika. I guess aliens are Nazis
http://www.nbc10.com/news/14193066/detail.html

[Miss Whiplash]

There was another in Ohio some 20 years ago.

I know a swastika is terribly offensive, but instead of calling for the heads of the pranksters, why not just tramp out arms and make a big window thingie out of it. Kind of a quick, smokeless, efficient remedy. :D

On a more serious note, isn't there some Nazi flying saucer group in the UFO subculture?

[ImaginalDisc]

No, no, no!

"Crop Swastika a Swastika!"

-Gram Nazi

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

At first I was extremely offended but then I realized that what this could also mean is that aliens are Hindu spiritualists.

[Miss Whiplash]

I could also mean the Outlaws or Pagan bikers are tagging turf.

[Normal Dude]

On a more serious note, isn't there some Nazi flying saucer group in the UFO subculture?

I personally know one person who thinks the Nazis had flying saucers with tank turrets slapped on them. His name is John Kettler, you will see some articles by him in major woo publications.

[blutoski]

In NJ they found a crop circle in the shape of a swatztika. I guess aliens are Nazis
http://www.nbc10.com/news/14193066/detail.html

If this was in India, I might think the symbol could be benignly drawn from the vedic clockwise tetraskelksis rune; but since it's in NJ, I think it's pretty clear it's intended to be provocative.

[RSLancastr]

Swastikas, both closkwise and counter-clockwise, were religios and good-luck symbols for centuries Before Hitler coopted them.

As a collector of playing cards, I know that they were popular as good-luck symbols on both cards and poker chips in America from the 1900's until WWII.

There is an american deck from that period where the suit-signs are horseshoes, four-leaf clovers, wishbones and swastikas.

If it weren't for Hitler, there would probably be swastikas in our Lucky Charms cereal. ("Orange stars, yellow moons, pink hearts and blue swastikas!")

[RSLancastr]

The deck I mentioned in my previous post was for a game called Roodles, and was copyrighted 1912.

Here's a pic of a couple of cards from the deck:

[blutoski]

Swastikas, both closkwise and counter-clockwise, were religios and good-luck symbols for centuries Before Hitler coopted them.

As a collector of playing cards, I know that they were popular as good-luck symbols on both cards and poker chips in America from the 1900's until WWII.

There is an american deck from that period where the suit-signs are horseshoes, four-leaf clovers, wishbones and swastikas.

If it weren't for Hitler, there would probably be swastikas in our Lucky Charms cereal. ("Orange stars, yellow moons, pink hearts and blue swastikas!")

I think that's probably true. It was a popular logo for sports teams, since the clockwise version represents masculine strength and courage. Sort of a vedic Yin.

Here in BC, we have manwoman (http://www.manwoman.net/), who is pretty much the opposite of a fascist: he's a fru-fru artsy hippie.

[Alice Shortcake]

I think I'm right in saying that the swastika was used as a decorative device in the first editions of Rudyard's Kipling's works. I've also seen moulded and painted ceramic swastika tiles on 19th century houses, and the Castle Museum at York has a magnificent swastika hat pin! :jaw-dropp

The fashion store Zara recently withdrew embroidered handbags (presumably made in India) featuring a swastika in each corner. I think many people realize that the symbol pre-dates Nazism by thousands of years, but due to its association with Hitler I can't imagine it ever being used acceptably.

[-Fran-]

Here's an example that I own. A children's book.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_1720246f8f99361119.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=8514)

The Story of Hiawatha by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. Interpreted in prose by Queenie Scott-Hopper. Swedish edition from 1912. Before Hitler, and so, harmless Swastikas.

ETA
Yeah, like someone said above, the symbol is well known to have predated Hitler's use of it, but it is probably tainted beyond repair because of it.

[MRC_Hans]

I really think the worst we could do to Hitler's memory would be to re-adopt the swastica in it's old meaning. Of course, we should try never to forget the crimes perpetrated by the nazi, but there is no reason to keep their symbols alive.

Hans

[Cuddles]

The aliens may or may not be Nazis, but it seems they want to vote.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_enl_1190720408/img/1.jpg

[ObscureReferenceMan]

When I first saw this thread, I thought you were refering to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_swastika

[RSLancastr]

I think I'm right in saying that the swastika was used as a decorative device in the first editions of Rudyard's Kipling's works.Yes, I almost mentioned that. A friend of mine owns some of those, and there is (if memory serves) a gilt swastika on the spine of each.

I seem to recall seeing pictures of Boy Scouts of America merit badges with swastikas on them.

Locally, a Hindu temple had to cover their wrought iron gate with plywood a few years ago because the swastika decorations on it were constantly being defaced by passers-by.

I also neglected to mention that the playing cards and poker chips with swastikas are often misrepresented on eBay as being of Nazi origin. Or this used to happen a lot, but I believe that eBay prohibits the sale of Nazi memorabilia now.

[JoeTheJuggler]

I also neglected to mention that the playing cards and poker chips with swastikas are often misrepresented on eBay as being of Nazi origin. Or this used to happen a lot, but I believe that eBay prohibits the sale of Nazi memorabilia now.


That suits me just fine!
:duck:

(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

[Cactus Wren]

Here in Arizona, highway signs for numbered state routes (http://arizonaroads.com/arizona/index.html) used to feature a clockwise swastika in an arrowhead.

[Tokenconservative]

I personally know one person who thinks the Nazis had flying saucers with tank turrets slapped on them. His name is John Kettler, you will see some articles by him in major woo publications.

Yeah, that's all stolen from an old fiction book (sorry, I'd have to get up, and go rustle through my stacks to find it, and I ain't gonna). Had to do with a super-secret organization of Extraordinary Gentlemen (these were the guys who had the "cigar" craft in the 1890s) who worked for the Nazis (who had money to burn) and then moved to Antarctica at the end of the war, and that it's their machines we've been seeing all these years...Jaque Vallees, the famous French UFOnut who was represented in Close Encounters was a big believer in this.

Tokie

[Tokenconservative]

Here in Arizona, highway signs for numbered state routes (http://arizonaroads.com/arizona/index.html) used to feature a clockwise swastika in an arrowhead.

Native Americans used the things all over the place.

That's what that was taken from in AZ. Now they prolly use a cleaned up version of Kokopelli, huh?

I always wonder why they don't show a REAL Kokopelli, with his pendulous um....member.

Tokie

[Big Les]

I personally know one person who thinks the Nazis had flying saucers with tank turrets slapped on them. His name is John Kettler, you will see some articles by him in major woo publications.

I read one recently in "Atlantis Rising" - classic stuff. I sometimes wonder what I'd do for entertainment if the woos all got abducted or whatever.

By the way, it seems that German PoWs planted an "Iron" cross here in Blighty (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Fairmile,+Henley-on-thames,+United+Kingdom&sll=-0.909506,1&sspn=0.169923,0.233459&ie=UTF8&cd=3&geocode=0,51.547534,-0.915337&ll=51.551672,-0.91326&spn=0.006605,0.014591&t=h&z=16&om=1)...

Typical shabby Nazi trick.

[RSLancastr]

I once saw a photograph of an ancient Jewish temple which, incongruously enough, had a swastika decoration in the ceiling.

[DRBUZZ0]

Perhaps it's like in "Contact" if anyone has ever seen that movie. basically they're trying to say "Hey guys. What's up. Just wanted to let you know that we've managed to pick up some of your first high power VHF transmissions. The first ones just sounded like a language we don't understand, but then we got one showing pictures. Looks like some sort of creatures running in circles. Also, a lot of these all over the place."

[ImaginalDisc]

I also neglected to mention that the playing cards and poker chips with swastikas are often misrepresented on eBay as being of Nazi origin. Or this used to happen a lot, but I believe that eBay prohibits the sale of Nazi memorabilia now.

That's a real shame. A few years ago, my parents found one of Lester Maddox's pickrick drumsticks, signed, in a tag sale. They snapped it up and donated it to a local African-American heritage group. I can't help but wonder how many items of Nazi memorabelia are languishing, unsold, rather than being displayed as a tangible reminder of the veracity of history.

[Miss Whiplash]

I have a goodly collection of antique good luck tokens, advertising promotions and cards.Many feature swastikas. One of the oldest is a 1910 lucky swastika card, like this one. (http://www.luckymojo.com/swastika.html) It was simply a popular good luck sign at the turn of the century. I wonder how much of this memorabilia was thrown away.

[maledoro]

There is a guy in Canada named "ManWoman" who is trying to bring back the original meaning of the swastika (as a positive solar symbol, before the Nazis had perverted it).

I'd post a link to his site, but I'm not upto 15 posts yet.
:mad:

[DRBUZZ0]

That's a real shame. A few years ago, my parents found one of Lester Maddox's pickrick drumsticks, signed, in a tag sale. They snapped it up and donated it to a local African-American heritage group. I can't help but wonder how many items of Nazi memorabelia are languishing, unsold, rather than being displayed as a tangible reminder of the veracity of history.

I saw some pictures a while ago.. actually a long time ago... it was of some guys in one of my great uncle's squadron dressed with some nazi insignias and one of them was giving a nazi salute with a fake mustasch... then in the next picture the other one comes up and starts bending him over and making as if they were having anal sex...

I think they did this on some platform or stage where hitler had spoken before. I don't think it was supposed to be pro-nazi. It appeared as if they were dramatizing hitler making a speach and then either being raped or perhaps having concensual sex with a nazi officer.

They also had a picture of sort of sign or poster with a swastica on it... and a soldier urinating on it...