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technoextreme
27th September 2007, 05:40 AM
Hypnosis robbery (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14215779/detail.html)
Shoot. This has nothing to do with conspiracy theories. Move please.:)

quixotecoyote
27th September 2007, 05:42 AM
Not necessarily. If Patel really is that level of superstitious bumpkin that believes priests have magic powers, then it's reasonable to believe someone could trick him out of money.

technoextreme
27th September 2007, 05:44 AM
Not necessarily. If Patel really is that level of superstitious bumpkin that believes priests have magic powers, then it's reasonable to believe someone could trick him out of money.
Mythbusters proved this isn't possible because it will snap you out of the hypnosis. You can't do anything you wouldn't want to.

DGM
27th September 2007, 05:44 AM
Hey Abby Scott used "jedi mind control" on Jason Burmas.:D

madurobob
27th September 2007, 06:15 AM
Mythbusters proved this isn't possible because it will snap you out of the hypnosis. You can't do anything you wouldn't want to.
while I agree that hypnosis is generally BS.. you have to want to be hypnotized, the MB episode proved nothing. Their entire pool of hypnosis candidates for their study were the three on-air personalities, only one if which was deemed to be potentially susceptible to hypnosis. I really wish they hadn't aired that show at all, it had a high woo feel to it.

Mercutio
27th September 2007, 06:28 AM
Odd. Same story on NH news, had a very different rendition. There, it was a "Psychic Scam".

technoextreme
27th September 2007, 09:55 AM
while I agree that hypnosis is generally BS.. you have to want to be hypnotized, the MB episode proved nothing. Their entire pool of hypnosis candidates for their study were the three on-air personalities, only one if which was deemed to be potentially susceptible to hypnosis. I really wish they hadn't aired that show at all, it had a high woo feel to it.
Actually the producer was hypnotized under false pretenses. The moment she was given a command she didn't expect she snapped out of it. Exactly my point. You can't be hypnotized to do things that you wouldn't normally do.

ponderingturtle
27th September 2007, 10:35 AM
Actually the producer was hypnotized under false pretenses. The moment she was given a command she didn't expect she snapped out of it. Exactly my point. You can't be hypnotized to do things that you wouldn't normally do.

Not entirely correct. You can be hypnotized to do things you would not normaly do, because you feel the hypnotism gives you permission. You can't be made to do something you don't want to do with hypnotism.

tkingdoll
27th September 2007, 10:53 AM
Not entirely correct. You can be hypnotized to do things you would not normaly do, because you feel the hypnotism gives you permission. You can't be made to do something you don't want to do with hypnotism.

Yes, that's exactly right. It's a behaviour enabler. The hypnotism is a handy disguise, essentially it is a sophisticated version of 'being a good sport', 'playing along' or however else you want to phrase it.

There is certainly no controllable hypnotic trance state in which victims become the unwitting puppets of a mind master.

Shame, really.

Beady
27th September 2007, 11:37 AM
You can't do anything you wouldn't want to.

Apparently, you've never seen "Mind Control, with Darren Brown (http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/M/mindcontrol/)." Not hypnosis, it's even scarier.

ponderingturtle
27th September 2007, 11:39 AM
Yes, that's exactly right. It's a behavior enabler. The hypnotism is a handy disguise, essentially it is a sophisticated version of 'being a good sport', 'playing along' or however else you want to phrase it.

There is certainly no controllable hypnotic trance state in which victims become the unwitting puppets of a mind master.

Shame, really.

Exactly, someone who had some exhibitionist tendencies might well take their clothes off if hypnotized, but someone who was really uncomfortable would not. Now taking their clothes off in public would not be normal behavior for the person with exhibitionist tendencies, so it would fall outside of normal behavior for them, but it would not fall outside the realm of what they are truly willing to do in public.

Arkan_Wolfshade
27th September 2007, 12:09 PM
Hey Abby Scott used "jedi mind control" on Jason Burmas.:D
"jedi mind control" ?= boobs

quixotecoyote
27th September 2007, 01:07 PM
You don't have to be hypnotized to get bilked.

maledoro
27th September 2007, 04:59 PM
"You will hand me $1000."
"I will hand you $1000."

:boggled:

DRBUZZ0
27th September 2007, 06:01 PM
Yes, that's exactly right. It's a behaviour enabler. The hypnotism is a handy disguise, essentially it is a sophisticated version of 'being a good sport', 'playing along' or however else you want to phrase it.

There is certainly no controllable hypnotic trance state in which victims become the unwitting puppets of a mind master.

Shame, really.

Well there are drugs which can render a person conscious but basically unaware of what is going on and so spaced out they'll go along with whatever.

It's not really the same as being completely controlled and I suppose its less than 100% reliable.

Sodium pentothal is well known for being used as "truth syrum" of course it's not actually reliable in that capacity, since the subjects tend to mix fantasy with reality. Reportedly had been used with some degree of success by the KGB. When it works properly (which isn't always) the goal is to shut down most of the higher thought functions while the subject remains conscious.

In this state, kinda like being drunk, but not entirely, the subject is supposed to be highly suggestable. But again: pretty unrelaible for getting information.