Bigfoot: The Invisible Variety

[Slimething]

Undead zombie invisible bigfoot!

I actually saw an invisible bigfoot the other day. Yessiree, Bob! :boggled:

[arthwollipot]

I actually saw an invisible bigfoot the other day. Yessiree, Bob! :boggled:If it was invisible, how did you...

never mind.

[LTC8K6]

That's nothing. When you have photos and casts of invisible bigfoot footprints, then get back to us. We all know that's the only real proof of an invisible bigfoot.

[wicked_ways]

I predict that this thread will mysteriously disappear in the near future.

If this thread has disappeared, and I am reading it in June, 2009......:jaw-dropp

What does this all mean? Do I now possess some kind of superpower that allows me to read a long disappeared thread?:eye-poppi

Someone please help me....:eek:

(arthwollipot's post was dated 16 Oct 07)

[arthwollipot]

If this thread has disappeared, and I am reading it in June, 2009......:jaw-dropp

What does this all mean? Do I now possess some kind of superpower that allows me to read a long disappeared thread?:eye-poppi

Someone please help me....:eek:

(arthwollipot's post was dated 16 Oct 07)It's okay. Thread necromancy is a common enough problem.

[WGBH]

OK, this video is funny. I was chatting with this person in a chat room the other night. He is weird.


http://www.youtube.com/user/trailriderresearch

[EHocking]

OK, this video is funny. I was chatting with this person in a chat room the other night. He is weird.


http://www.youtube.com/user/trailriderresearchSasquatch orbs, that's all we need.:mgduh

[Spektator]

Didn't historian have some photos that revealed an invisible bigfoot because--well, because you couldn't see one in the photos?

[madurobob]

I can't believe it's not Burgstahler (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=94981) (historian)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3h6tGAocl8



Word... Gravitational Lense (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0_ZxbK0WQ&feature=related)

From the very end there it sounds exactly like Neil.

If that's not Neil, its one of his disciples - the claims and the language are dead on.

BTW - I like this one. Various fallen trees and limbs in Canada are conclusive proof of bigfoot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9pdmIw_ncs

[wicked_ways]

It's okay. Thread necromancy is a common enough problem.


Ahhh...that is a relief. Judging from your avatar your are able to see the truth. :D

No concerns here that the low flying helicopter I heard this morning contained one invisible bigfoot and historian, scanning my brain for information. ;)

[kitakaze]

OK, this video is funny. I was chatting with this person in a chat room the other night. He is weird.


http://www.youtube.com/user/trailriderresearch

Like, 10 posts back from yours. That's the reason I pulled a Lazarus on this thread.

I think that guy has 3 sugarcubes of LSD in his coffee and a bowl of peyote flakes in the morning, magic mushroom soup and sandwiches with a cup of shamanic tea for lunch, an ayahuasca pasta with a nice glass of absinthe for dinner, and licks a tree frog for dessert.

You should ask him if he gets his crazy from Neil Burgstahler or if it's one of those cases of convergent delusion.

[WGBH]

Like, 10 posts back from yours. That's the reason I pulled a Lazarus on this thread.

I think that guy has 3 sugarcubes of LSD in his coffee and a bowl of peyote flakes in the morning, magic mushroom soup and sandwiches with a cup of shamanic tea for lunch, an ayahuasca pasta with a nice glass of absinthe for dinner, and licks a tree frog for dessert.

You should ask him if he gets his crazy from Neil Burgstahler or if it's one of those cases of convergent delusion.

Aw Man! You already saw it? I was hoping to make you laugh. I am thinking of sending him a video from last weekend when we were out in the field of a bunch of fire flies. I will tell him it's a herd of quadrepedal, invisible Bigfoot surrounding me.

[William Parcher]

The Burg is easy to find on the web. (http://www.yowiehunters.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&p=13390)


doctorscream says...


Rastus,
1. Your posting time is American
2. Your language and lack of intelligence is 100% American
3. Your suspicious familiarity and quoting of JREF is 100% US Government Spook
4. Your fast response to my bringing to light an opportunity for an Aussie bigfoot researcher to reanalyze his field experience for an INTERDIMENSIONAL YOWIE, is 100% US Government Spook
5. Your immaturity and name calling is again, 100% US Government Spook Are you bucking for an upgrade in your security clearance, so that you will know as much as their secretaries about the real interdimensional bigfoot?

And while were at it, which of the following names is your handle on JREF:
Kitakaze, Drewbot, William Parcher, jhunter1163, arthwollipot, LTC8K6, tube, JcR, madurobob, Spektator, tsig, dafydd, Locknar, Akhenaten, Karl Rose or Irishtheruler? Well there goes your cover.

[William Parcher]

Oh jeez, I almost forgot this. Neil communicates with the Invisible Bigfoots by farting.


Toward morning, I became aware that a second bigfoot had located him or herself within perception range of my tent. The bigfoot tend to give off strong electromagnetic radiation of some type, that allows a human to point right at an invisible bigfoot in the dark, at a distance up to about 30 meters. Since I had made some good bigfoot friends in the area on previous visits, I spoke softly, "is that you bigfoot buddy?" I heard a slight stir in the brush and a small electrical snap, which would tend to indicate an affirmative answer to my question. The bigfoot love to be our camping buddies, and hang out around camp after dark. Some hang out into the next day, but remain invisible. But my perception of this bigfoot buddy indicated to me that this bigfoot was gone at daybreak. This is probably the same bigfoot that I have an ongoing fart war with, however. I started that war by ripping a big one, when a bigfoot was standing only a couple of feet from my tent, on a previous visit. Always looking for new scientific research techniques, I spontaneously passed gas just to see what he or she would do. The bigfoot was unprepared for my crude attempt at communication, as I detected only a feeling of enjoyment coming from that bigfoot. They like games. Having had returned there since the above described fishing trip, I was awakened in the early morning, by a very loud fart that was not mine. And so now, IT'S GAME ON!

[dafydd]

The Burg is easy to find on the web. (http://www.yowiehunters.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&p=13390)


doctorscream says...

Well it certainly is not Dafydd.I am 50 percent Scottish and 50 percent Welsh.

[kitakaze]

Aw Man! You already saw it? I was hoping to make you laugh. I am thinking of sending him a video from last weekend when we were out in the field of a bunch of fire flies. I will tell him it's a herd of quadrepedal, invisible Bigfoot surrounding me.

I will give you a recipe for Japanese fried chicken that will make you cry tears of joy if you do that and post his response.

Have you seen his UFO video?:

Fear and Loathing in Vancouver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1VYCJHNw0Q&feature=channel_page)

[kitakaze]

The Burg is easy to find on the web. (http://www.yowiehunters.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&p=13390)


doctorscream says...

Rastus,
1. Your posting time is American
2. Your language and lack of intelligence is 100% American
3. Your suspicious familiarity and quoting of JREF is 100% US Government Spook
4. Your fast response to my bringing to light an opportunity for an Aussie bigfoot researcher to reanalyze his field experience for an INTERDIMENSIONAL YOWIE, is 100% US Government Spook
5. Your immaturity and name calling is again, 100% US Government Spook Are you bucking for an upgrade in your security clearance, so that you will know as much as their secretaries about the real interdimensional bigfoot?

And while were at it, which of the following names is your handle on JREF:
Kitakaze, Drewbot, William Parcher, jhunter1163, arthwollipot, LTC8K6, tube, JcR, madurobob, Spektator, tsig, dafydd, Locknar, Akhenaten, Karl Rose or Irishtheruler? Well there goes your cover.

Looks like The Burg threw another shrimp on the barbie.

I am touched to be #1 in Neil's heart. Per my other highlighting, it seems The Burg doesn't understand his fellow Americans very well if he thinks that guy's English is 100% American:

Doctorscream at the risk of causing offence, you are either,

a: Mentally unstable

b: Taking the p*** out of everyone on this forum,

c: Mentally unstable

[kitakaze]

Oh jeez, I almost forgot this. Neil communicates with the Invisible Bigfoots by farting.

Toward morning, I became aware that a second bigfoot had located him or herself within perception range of my tent. The bigfoot tend to give off strong electromagnetic radiation of some type, that allows a human to point right at an invisible bigfoot in the dark, at a distance up to about 30 meters. Since I had made some good bigfoot friends in the area on previous visits, I spoke softly, "is that you bigfoot buddy?" I heard a slight stir in the brush and a small electrical snap, which would tend to indicate an affirmative answer to my question. The bigfoot love to be our camping buddies, and hang out around camp after dark. Some hang out into the next day, but remain invisible. But my perception of this bigfoot buddy indicated to me that this bigfoot was gone at daybreak. This is probably the same bigfoot that I have an ongoing fart war with, however. I started that war by ripping a big one, when a bigfoot was standing only a couple of feet from my tent, on a previous visit. Always looking for new scientific research techniques, I spontaneously passed gas just to see what he or she would do. The bigfoot was unprepared for my crude attempt at communication, as I detected only a feeling of enjoyment coming from that bigfoot. They like games. Having had returned there since the above described fishing trip, I was awakened in the early morning, by a very loud fart that was not mine. And so now, IT'S GAME ON!]

:eye-poppi

:dl:

* Sweet * Fancy * Moses *

That is beyond "I fell down". I am actually at a loss for words. The words "greatest" and "ever" just keep knocking around in my head like shoes in the dryer.

The Burg's invisible Bigfoot buddies love doing this to him while he sleeps...

MdA-y6J-KnY&feature=related

[arthwollipot]

Awww... he remembers me.

[captain koolaid]

The last author to write a book about cooking BFT, died within 2 years. Her body suddenly became completely riddled with cancer. Think about it.

Love it. I sincerely hope that Neal never stops being Neal. One can pull up any page, select virtually any random quote, and come up with gold. The Burgster is a God among mere crackpots. Historian is my hero.

[Locknar]

Looks like The Burg threw another shrimp on the barbie.

I am touched to be #1 in Neil's heart. Per my other highlighting, it seems The Burg doesn't understand his fellow Americans very well if he thinks that guy's English is 100% American:While not #1, I made the list - woo hoo!

Odd he has such frequent contact with BF yet...as always can provide no credible proof. Wonder why that is...the world may never know.

[William Parcher]

Neal (historian on JREF) shows up on BFF (http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=28921) as "natalie"? Joined the forum yesterday and is already using veteran Bigfooter jargon like "biggie"...

My guess is that there are more encounters on a full moon because of the dimensional barriers being extra thin. This is where the werewolves and full moon connection comes in as well. Sometimes full moons feel "extra spooky" because they are, as our world is merging in and out with more dimensions. You may be able to tell by the above that I am of the opinion that Bigfoot is an interdimensional creature. I don't think he just hides in the woods so well that we can't find him or watch him sleep :). He lives primarily in the 4th dimension very closely connected with ours and can travel in and out of ours at will. It is interesting that our northwest variation of sasquatch is identical to the Australian version. How can the same biological animal be native to two wholly different environments? This reality defies evolution really. My theory is that Australia and NW America correspond to the same dimensional locations, and thus report the very same-looking bigfeet. Why were there only werewolves in France and Michigan/Wisconsin, but never China? It's the same deal. Whichever dimensional location your geography corresponds to will generally dictate which sort of cryptids you see on a regular basis.

[The Shrike]

Do you have some kind of nutjob radar or something? Is it like your Spidey sense starts tingling when something ridiculous about bigfoot gets posted?

You're tempting me to adopt a new secret alias and start spewing some woo on the BFRO . . .

[kitakaze]

Neal (historian on JREF) shows up on BFF (http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=28921) as "natalie"? Joined the forum yesterday and is already using veteran Bigfooter jargon like "biggie"...

This is why natalie is not The Burg...

This is a heavy topic. The question is, CAN cryptids be summoned by rituals?? If the answer is yes, then that is obviously a very significant. It is said that Aleister Crowley successfully summoned nessie at some point. This and other supernatural instances surrounding cryptids can transfer these animals into the category of “spiritual”, a term which makes many people uncomfortable. Imo the reason this gets so tricky is because “spiritual” means many different things to many different people. You could tell one person something is “spiritual” which would automatically translate in their minds into “angels and demons”, while another person might interpret it as “energy related”, while yet another person would translate it into “not earthly”. I think it’s best to be openminded at this point to allow for multiple definitions. To me, the words “spiritual” and “inter-, other- and trans-dimensional” are synonymous. Quantum physics has acknowledged the existence of 10 dimensions. Now when you see how many critters are in just our little 3D dimensional world, it stands to reason that there are many more critters filling up the 4th-10th dimensions. Sometimes the dimensional barriers of our 3D world get extra fluid like which allows critters from other dimensions to wander in and out. The purpose of occult type rituals is to rip away at these barriers purposefully, so it makes sense that other dimensional beings can be summoned during these rituals.

Neil's constantly blathering on about his proficiency at calling in Bigfoot and his methods of doing so (the things you have to say, thoughts to project, sounds to listen for, etc). If that were Neil, he would have gotten all worked up at the mentioning of summoning a cryptid. Also, the lunar angle that natalie is talking about is not one of Neil's things. This seems to be just another nut.

[kitakaze]

From the national survey mentioned in OP of that thread...

Table 19: Paranormal Beliefs in the United States
Percent that agree/strongly agree with the
following statements

East Midwest South West Total


Ancient advanced civilizations, such as Atlantis, once
existed (Atlantis)

44.2% 42.0% 40.2% 47.9% 41.2%

Some alternative treatments are at least as effective as
traditional medicine (Alt. Medicine)

80.7% 83.3% 69.6% 81.6% 74.5%

It is possible to influence the world through the mind
alone (Telekinesis)

34.0% 27.4% 26.1% 32.5% 28.2%

Astrologers, palm readers, tarot card readers, fortune
tellers and psychics can foresee the future (Psychics)

15.8% 11.5% 13.3% 12.8% 12.8%

Astrology impacts one’s life and personality (Astrology)

19.7% 14.3% 13.7% 13.8% 12.3%

It is possible to communicate with the dead (Talk to the
Dead)

29.2% 17.9% 17.8% 19.7% 19.9%

Places can be haunted (Haunted houses)

45.3% 39.0% 34.6% 39.6% 37.2%

Dreams can sometimes foretell the future or reveal
hidden truths (Dreams)

60.9% 52.5% 53.8% 51.7% 52.0%

Some UFOs are probably spaceships from other worlds
(UFOs)

28.2% 25.1% 25.1% 26.0% 24.6%

Creatures such as Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster
will one day be discovered by science (Monsters)

20.4% 20.3% 18.5% 15.7% 17.9%

Ghosts, Atlantis, clairvoyancy, and alternative medicine kicked Bigfoot and Nessie's ass.

[Bitter Monk]

You're tempting me to adopt a new secret alias and start spewing some woo on the BFRO . . .

I hear there's a line.

[William Parcher]

Do you have some kind of nutjob radar or something? Is it like your Spidey sense starts tingling when something ridiculous about bigfoot gets posted?

You're tempting me to adopt a new secret alias and start spewing some woo on the BFRO . . .


LOL, no special radar here. I just read (mostly skim) a few Bigfoot/Crypto forums. I'm especially intrigued by new members. Why on earth would anyone think that Bigfoot exists let alone join a forum dedicated to it? I think a certain percentage of newbies are actually sockpuppets of oldies. Kit may be right that this isn't historian, but then again it could be him playing a slightly different version of a theme. I don't recall if Burgstahler ever actually had a well-known registration on BFF. Anybody know if he did and got banned or something?

I very rarely look at the BFRO forum. I think they might ban and then delete posts by obvious Paranormal Bigfoot types.


Ghosts, Atlantis, clairvoyancy, and alternative medicine kicked Bigfoot and Nessie's ass.

Oh no. Look, the question doesn't ask if they exist - it asks if they will be discovered by science. Any woo could say they certainly do exist and will forever elude the labcoats. Look how long they have been doing it already!

[Bitter Monk]

I don't recall if Burgstahler ever actually had a well-known registration on BFF. Anybody know if he did and got banned or something?


I'm almost positive he did/was but I can't remember a specific username for him. Vol might know since he was a former moderator. I also agree that a lot of the current crop of noobs at BFF aren't noobs at all.

[bruto]

The idea of thinning dimensional barriers has huge potential for silly conversation. This is right up there with disturbances in the force.

[William Parcher]

I also agree that a lot of the current crop of noobs at BFF aren't noobs at all.

You mean they are socks (already have a BFF registration under a different name), or they are seasoned Bigfooters from other forums pretending to be newbies to the whole Bigfoot scene, or some of each?

[Bitter Monk]

I think it's a vegetable medley. Some are formerly banned members, others taking on different personas from different forums, and some running multiple accounts. Then you have the trolls, reverse trolls, tactical trolls, etc.

[William Parcher]

Check out this BFF dude (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=150168).

[Bitter Monk]

That dude was totally a reverse troll.

[William Parcher]

Yesterday natalie revealed that Bigfoot is an interdimensional traveler living mostly in the 4th dimension. Today (http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=274&st=231&start=231) she says it will eventually end up in biology books. One way or the other science is buffoonish and Bigfooters are correct... well, correct if they think it's a dimension-hopper.

IMO Science takes too long to catch up. Bigfoot will probably make it into biology textbooks in 50 years and we'll be rolling our eyes like "yeah we knew it all along". Either that or they'll mention how "superstitious" we were in the 1900s for thinking their might be a big hairy creature running around the woods...ah well.

[HghrSymmetry]

Whoa, is anyone else getting a Beckjord moment...
(or worse Historian)?

[arthwollipot]

Woah... Necropost.

[William Parcher]

Do you have some kind of nutjob radar or something?

Maybe I do. Did you notice that Bigfoot newbie natalie suddenly switched to all lower case? Also note that there are some commas but no periods. I've seen this kind of thing before. Dramatic changes in how a person uses the keyboard within a short period of time. This could be seen with makaya325. Many proposed that it was more than one person sharing a single registration. It's really bizarre and it intrigues me. That interest runs contrary to this forum's credo: Attack the argument, not the arguer. Well, I'm not attacking the arguer, I'm just far more interested in studying the arguer than the argument. The argument itself is almost always boring and is no longer even worth paying attention to. The arguer is the true subject of inquiry. WTF is going on with this person?

i'm saying that just cause we might not see it now doesn't mean they were wrong...we're thousands of years in the future, all we can do is dig in the dirt and look at carvings trying to guess what life was like back then lol

we can't even figure out how the pyramids were made imo it's a little bold to assume they were wrong about religion, especially when they had some obvious advancements on us modern day folk

Cryptozoology is no longer about animals (if it ever was); it's about human fantasy and creativity. The "leading Cryptozoologists" are actually propagandists and purveyors of simple basic human intrigue. Some guy says that he saw a giant wolf-thing with glowing eyes and webbed feet and holy cow I just have to read everything I can find about this and holy cow there is a forum talking about it now and holy cow there are other people all wrapped up in it just like I am and holy cow holy cow holy cow...

Natalie is probably not a female and certainly not a newbie. This is a guy having fun with a subject and forum that he is already quite familiar with. This is a game. Some would call it a troll thing.

Again, note that natalie has essentially abandoned (or put aside) her conviction that Bigfoot is a paranormal dimension-hopper. How can you engage in typical Bigfooter talk in all the different threads when Bigfoot is actually something like a vapor with lots of hair?

Natalie is a fabricated persona with a fabricated interest. Just another day on The Bigfoot Forums.

[William Parcher]

This is why natalie is not The Burg...

I'm prepared to argue that natalie is The Burg.

[The Shrike]

Maybe I do. Did you notice that Bigfoot newbie natalie . . .
No. I think I max out at following 3 threads at a time; and even 1 can be challenging. I don't think I've encountered "natalie" yet.


Cryptozoology is no longer about animals (if it ever was); it's about human fantasy and creativity.
Indeed. It's fascinating to me - someone who has spent a lot of time trying to design surveys for rare and elusive wildlife - to consider the conditions under which some species have evaded detection. Thylacines, Ivorybills - even bigfoot - I think there's a proper place in modern biology for investigating such things. Field work devoted to them is not necessarily "woo." Where cryptozoology crosses the line into fantasy is where its practitioners fail to admit, "we looked into this, and found nothing."

I don't know enough to make that conclusion about Thylacines - I assume they are long gone based on everything I've read, but maybe there's some work that can still be done there. Ivorybills are officially "there." Even Fitzpatrick et al. have acknowledged that there's no "recoverable" population. The bigfoot ship sailed long ago. I see no reason why it should be actively pursued as legitimate scientific inquiry.*

*ETA, except, I suppose, to demonstrate the holes in the flimsy "evidence" cherished by rapt believers, e.g., "dermal ridge" debunking.

[William Parcher]

Ivorybills are officially "there."

No they aren't.

Even Fitzpatrick et al. have acknowledged that there's no "recoverable" population.

Wrong way to paraphrase Fitz. Here... If the IBWO still exists, then the population is unrecoverable.


The bigfoot ship sailed long ago. I see no reason why it should be actively pursued as legitimate scientific inquiry.

Yet you treat it as if it has scientific legitimacy almost every day on BFF. You are the crack to the junkies on BFF. Even when you try to explain that it's no good for science you give a little dose of heroin and they smile as they say you are the best skeptic. You know something is wrong when the believers don't detest you. I'm not talking about as a person. I'm talking about your schtick. Your argument should be acid to them.

Bigfoot might exist = another fix of heroin to the vein.
Bigfoot does not exist = cold turkey rehab for the deluded addict.

[kitakaze]

I'm prepared to argue that natalie is The Burg.

I know you will return my volley.

Actually, if I had a BFF membership and more interest, I would look up those 30 posts natalie has made to confirm natalie is not The Burg. Alas, I have neither. Neil isn't quite that subtle.

[Crazyfish]

Mike Greene on BTR tonight.
Oh ye of little faith, listen and you will believe.

[William Parcher]

Mike Greene on BTR tonight.
Oh ye of little faith, listen and you will believe.

Wrong thread, newbie. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=166532)

[LuvGodzilla]

I'm prepared to argue that natalie is The Burg.

I don't want to argue :D but, I think Natalie is a fellow who goes by the screen name "Multiple Encounters".

[The Shrike]

No they aren't.
I didn't mean "there" as in "out there in Arkansas." I meant "there" as in they've now crossed the line into woo cryptozoology.


Wrong way to paraphrase Fitz. Here... If the IBWO still exists, then the population is unrecoverable. In your eyes maybe, but I was paraphrasing Fitz as Fitz. I've not read anything from him indicating that he would put an "If" in front of that statement.


You know something is wrong when the believers don't detest you.
It couldn't possibly be that I treat people with respect even when I disagree with them. Have fun with the search function finding all those times I've told the bigfooters there was any greater than 0.00 probability of a flesh and blood bigfoot.

[Redwolf]

I'm almost positive he did/was but I can't remember a specific username for him. Vol might know since he was a former moderator. I also agree that a lot of the current crop of noobs at BFF aren't noobs at all.

Neal has posted at the BFF under the following names:

Sledhead19
BignLittlefoot
bigfootmagnet

There might be other names, but those are the ones I sure of.

Redwolf

[Volsquatch]

Just off the top of my head, I believe "JBH" was another one.

[William Parcher]

I don't want to argue :D but, I think Natalie is a fellow who goes by the screen name "Multiple Encounters".

I was ready to argue that I saw nothing to rule out The Burg as natalie. But what is it that makes you think it's "Multiple Encounters"? Could that person be The Burg?

[William Parcher]

It couldn't possibly be that I treat people with respect even when I disagree with them. Have fun with the search function finding all those times I've told the bigfooters there was any greater than 0.00 probability of a flesh and blood bigfoot.



I can't search at BFF as I'm not registered. 0% probability means that it doesn't exist. That's what I think and say. But do you actually tell them over at BFF that Bigfoot does not exist, or do you put it a different way? When somebody says they saw a Bigfoot do you tell them they could not have - because there is no Bigfoot - because the probability is zero?

I mean, you can't even say "maybe" when you put the number at 0.00. It's the same situation as with flying fire-breathing dragons, right? 0% for the dragon too, right?

[rockinkt]

It couldn't possibly be that I treat people with respect even when I disagree with them. Have fun with the search function finding all those times I've told the bigfooters there was any greater than 0.00 probability of a flesh and blood bigfoot.

I think it is because you refuse to plainly state that the "heros" such as Meldrum and Bindernagel and Fahrenbach are either poor excuses for scientists or intellectually dishonest. ;)

Or, do you actually think that these people are good scientists and that you would recommend their work in the sasquatch/bigfoot field as examples of good science? :boggled:

[LuvGodzilla]

I was ready to argue that I saw nothing to rule out The Burg as natalie. But what is it that makes you think it's "Multiple Encounters"? Could that person be The Burg?

No, ME is not The Burg. ME will be speaking at the Oregon Conference :rolleyes:

ME is a fellow that is desperate for attention and someone/anyone to listen too and agree with his views of Bigfoot and Bigfoot behaviors. He was given a vacation at BFF for his inability to play nice when others didn't agree. He's bopped around the Internet doing the same thing, even on hunting forums. What better way to sockpuppet than to come back to the "Bigfoot Community" as the innocent and naive Natalie while he's on vacation as MultipleEncounters.

When I read the posts from Natalie, my first thought was MultipleEncounters.

[William Parcher]

... and would claim that Bigfoot is a dimension-hopper that can disappear? Why would he want that ongoing theme for his sock?

[The Shrike]

0% probability means that it doesn't exist. That's what I think and say.
Me too, and that's what I've been saying for years.


When somebody says they saw a Bigfoot do you tell them they could not have - because there is no Bigfoot - because the probability is zero?
No, I spend the time trying to explain why the probability is zero which, as an educator, I see as the far more fruitful approach.

[The Shrike]

I think it is because you refuse to plainly state that the "heros" such as Meldrum and Bindernagel and Fahrenbach are either poor excuses for scientists or intellectually dishonest. ;)
I'm not sure which BFF you've been reading, but on the one where I post I have been repeatedly critical of all three of those individuals. Have I insulted their mothers? No. Have I specifically addressed serious flaws in the research practices and logic of each one? Yes.

[William Parcher]

The science behind invisible Bigfoots = PPIT


PPIT = Photosynthetic Piezoelectric Induced Transparency. Basically, Bigfoot can become invisible after eating certain kinds of rocks or minerals.

Oh Yes They Are Real (http://osareal.com)

Within this site I will present exclusive photographic evidence, scientific documentation along with correlating geological studies of specific research areas. I give first hand accounts as well as addressing probable dietary supplementations. I present a spectrum analysis done by Oshkosh University of a consumable substance that very well may be more then just a dietary supplementation. I will be correlating and mapping the Bigfoot by means of specific geologic factors along with these suspected supplementations. Both plant and soil will be looked at as possible supplementation sources along with specifically enriched waters (sufficient game is a given when considering any Bigfoot sustaining area). All combined information leading to scientific bases for my hypotheses, Photosynthetic Piezoelectric Induced Transparency (PPIT). This study is backed by over 34 years of personal ongoing Bigfoot encounters and years of accumulated scientific studies from academic institutions all over the world. PPIT is thought of as merely changing the refractive index of the body by altering the cellular density(+ size).

[kitakaze]

:forbidden WARNING: WP, your link is screwy. Made my browser all messed up. :forbidden

[William Parcher]

It works fine for me.

[Drewbot]

It works fine for me.

That is the kind of Bigfoot crap I want to talk about, forget this PGF garbage.
I don't like the basic, "look at the hairy primate!", give me 'PHOTON RAYS', 'shape-changing', 'Dimensional portals, and 'Alien meetings on Mars'

[bruto]

I like the basic approach here. Once you have a theory about what they eat all you have to do is map the stuff they eat. Now why didn't I think of that?

And they leave rock stacks.

[arthwollipot]

Invisible Zombie Bigfoot Thread!

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!

[tsig]

The science behind invisible Bigfoots = PPIT


PPIT = Photosynthetic Piezoelectric Induced Transparency. Basically, Bigfoot can become invisible after eating certain kinds of rocks or minerals.

Oh Yes They Are Real (http://osareal.com)

Why don't they just eat the rocks and plants then check their transparency?

[William Parcher]

It's a year old, but Burgstahler (Historian) shows up (http://scienceblogs.com/laelaps/2009/06/book_review_bigfoot_the_life_a.php) multiple times in a Buhs vs. Moneymaker comment debate about Bigfoot. His handle is silvereagle and he has used it in multiple forums.


The interdimensional and quite intelligent Bigfoot allows everyone to cling onto their own perceived reality. Albeit quite often by only a few fingernails. For the skeptics, naysayers, psychological nutcases, fragile females, effeminant males, opinionated know-it-alls and non-camping public, Bigfoot stays invisible most of the time in the higher dimensions and generally resists the attainment of proof by the general public. He does this so at the end of the day, that group can shut their eyes and get a good nights sleep.

For the gung ho camoed out mystery solvers, the diehard researchers, and the intellectually fascinated, Bigfoot allows just enough visual sightings, discovery of footprints and perceived night howls, in order to keep that group in the hunt. So the interdimensional Bigfoot has something under the christmas tree for everybody. Which is also why there is so much disagreement as to exactly what Bigfoot is.

[The Shrike]

It's a year old, but Burgstahler (Historian) shows up (http://scienceblogs.com/laelaps/2009/06/book_review_bigfoot_the_life_a.php) multiple times in a Buhs vs. Moneymaker comment debate about Bigfoot. His handle is silvereagle and he has used it in multiple forums.

"effeminant males"?

[William Parcher]

The Interdimensional Sasquatch (http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2010/07/readers-respond-interdimensional.html)

A few months ago, I posted a poll that posed the question 'What is Bigfoot/Sasquatch?' To my surprise, 26% of the 574 participants answered they believed this creature was an interdimensional or extraterrestrial being. Are we at a point where people are open minded enough to accept that a hominid species may very well not be of our time or planet?

I posed this question to my readers and challenged them to make their case. Again, I was surprised at the amount of response I received. A total of 112 emails, with well thought out theories and opinions, were received in a three day period.

[Correa Neto]

How bigfoot showed up to the guys who captured them and studied them at Berkeley?

[Slimething]

It's a year old, but Burgstahler (Historian) shows up (http://scienceblogs.com/laelaps/2009/06/book_review_bigfoot_the_life_a.php) multiple times in a Buhs vs. Moneymaker comment debate about Bigfoot. His handle is silvereagle and he has used it in multiple forums.
Originally Posted by silvereagle
The interdimensional and quite intelligent Bigfoot allows everyone to cling onto their own perceived reality. Albeit quite often by only a few fingernails. For the skeptics, naysayers, psychological nutcases, fragile females, effeminant males, opinionated know-it-alls and non-camping public, Bigfoot stays invisible most of the time in the higher dimensions and generally resists the attainment of proof by the general public. He does this so at the end of the day, that group can shut their eyes and get a good nights sleep.

For the gung ho camoed out mystery solvers, the diehard researchers, and the intellectually fascinated, Bigfoot allows just enough visual sightings, discovery of footprints and perceived night howls, in order to keep that group in the hunt. So the interdimensional Bigfoot has something under the christmas tree for everybody. Which is also why there is so much disagreement as to exactly what Bigfoot is.

Thanks for posting that. For the life of me, I can't read silvereagle's words without hearing them in the voice of Hubert J. Farnsworth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_J._Farnsworth). All in all, that may be appropriate.

[kitakaze]

Slime, you don't even know...

[Drewbot]

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1187397/pg1

I think I might have located Neil Burgstahler.

[LTC8K6]

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1187397/pg1

I think I might have located Neil Burgstahler.

Okay, but why? :D

[Marcus]

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1187397/pg1

I think I might have located Neil Burgstahler.
He should have posted that here, it's even better than his old stuff, Bigfoot entertainment at its finest.

[Apology]

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1187397/pg1

I think I might have located Neil Burgstahler.

Is that Historian? Because as I recall (and I am not a particularly accurate recaller) Historian was also stuck on the "Stephen Hawking investigated Bigfoot in Berkeley" to which Stephen Hawking replied "Whut?"

[HghrSymmetry]

Is that Historian? Because as I recall (and I am not a particularly accurate recaller) Historian was also stuck on the "Stephen Hawking investigated Bigfoot in Berkeley" to which Stephen Hawking replied "Whut?"

It sure sounds like 'em. Wow, to think these folks are on the loose. If only we had the budget surplus to build more rubber rooms.

[parnassus]

sounds like Bob Saget is gonna take on the 'footers.
http://www.poptower.com/news-20955/strange-days-with-bob-saget-premiere.htm

[Correa Neto]

Don't forget also the Jimmy Carter/bigfoot claims,,, Not sure if it was about Carter having a bigfoot sighting or the opposite.
Too lazy to check such a silly thing.

[William Parcher]

sounds like Bob Saget is gonna take on the 'footers.
http://www.poptower.com/news-20955/strange-days-with-bob-saget-premiere.htm


Your post is off topic in this thread. But anyway, here (http://northamericanbigfoot.blogspot.com/2010/04/bigfooting-with-bob-saget.html) is more info on Saget going Bigfooting. More. (http://northamericanbigfoot.blogspot.com/2010/10/strange-days-with-bob-saget-to-premiere.html)

Photo shows Saget with The Gimlin Guard.

[GT/CS]

Wow, that photo explains a lot!

[William Parcher]

The Bigfoot-is-paranormal crowd is starting to show up on the new BFF. I don't think that Burgstahler (Historian) is there yet as his posting style is very distinctive. Right now they have a few of these folks posting who almost certainly already know each other via other channels. They are being somewhat low-key about their beliefs because nearly all Bigfooters are hostile to those who think BF is paranormal. But still there are bits that come out letting you know where they stand. One poster, "midnightwalker1", talked about BF being able to feel your thoughts and if you are thinking bad things that BF will know it. He is talking about Bigfoot mental telepathy. Here (http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/1194-question/) is a thread where some of these people show up. IMO, they are...

midnightwalker1
Sasfooty
Woodslore
Joey Kay

Here (http://web.me.com/tomasal1/Midnight_Walkers/Welcome.html) is MW1's website. He talks about a number of Bigfoots which he has habituated and named such as Legs, Stomper, Little Guy, Alpha Big, Hooty, etc. His YouTube site (http://www.youtube.com/user/BFResearchSE) features a variety of paranormal Bigfoot topics like interdimensionality, telepathy, cloaking, orbs, glowing eyes, etc.

[William Parcher]

New book...

Silent Invasion: The Pennsylvania UFO-Bigfoot Casebook (http://monsterusa.blogspot.com/2010/10/bigfoot-ufos.html)


During 1973 UFOs began to make widespread appearances in the sky across the Keystone State. It was during the summer of that year however when a mysterious wave of events began to unfold. Alarmed citizens over a widespread area reported close encounters with huge hairy Bigfoot-like creatures. Frightened residents called local authorities and media outlets reporting enormous footprints and terrified animals.

As the pace of the abnormal encounters quickened through the following months, more eyewitness reports of other strange creatures, and a variety of other paranormal events came to the attention of Gordon's investigation team. Stan’s second book covers many of the mysterious incidents from that period which continued into 1974, including illustrations and photos. For the first time the author reveals many new details about this puzzling period of time. Some of the startling cases discussed suggest that there may be more to the Bigfoot mystery than a flesh and blood explanation.

Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Invasion-Pennsylvania-UFO-Bigfoot-Casebook/dp/0966610830/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1288364346&sr=1-7)

[Ducky]

Notice everyone, that Locknar didn't have the cahoanes to sleep outside in a relatively unprotected sleeping bag. This tends to show that he is now afraid for his life. Instead, he chose to seek shelter inside of a home with solid walls and a solid roof. So what he sees as some kind of genuine experiement, is tainted from the get go. Can Locknar PROVE that he shouted anything? Of course not. So using his reasoning, THEN LOCKNAR IS CALLING HIMSELF A LIAR.

Incivility removed

Historian, please remain civil and polite.

I have it on good authority that Locknar's "cahoanes" are rather substantial in their fortitude.

[arthwollipot]

That's an... interesting thread resurrection there, Ducky.

[Correa Neto]

By the powers of the Dark Lord of the Dead channeled trough me, I command you!

RISE THREAD, RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!

[William Parcher]

Coast to Coast AM radio webpoll. Look how many people believe in a paranormal Bigfoot.