LC Opens Section Just for Israel

[parky76]

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showforum=40

It will turn into a fiesta for White Nationalists, Holocaust deniars, and plain old anti-Semites. Anyone who seeks to label the Truth Movemant as having links to Neo-Nazis will have a field day.

Thanks Dylan, you just made our job sooooooo much easier.

:D

[Anti-sophist]

Oh my.

[SDC]

Gack. So far I have learned that "911 is the Mossad." An incredibly long post by a Ryan Dawson.

Also I learned that a 53 yr old journalist named Dale Solly dropped dead even though he was a non-smoker and runner. (Imagine! A 53 yr old man had a heart attack. Well, his "cardiologist" -- wink, wink -- was probably a Jew.) Edit: (Anyone remember Jim Fixx? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx)

IVXX says that this area is by popular demand, and it's not LC's fault. "The section will be heavily moderated to ensure, as much as possible, no offense (and thus flaming) be taken by anyone. There will be a three strikes policy. Warning > Suspension > Banning. Likewise, there will be no tolerance shown to general accusations of anti-semitism towards users who offer credible information regarding Israeli govt/Mossad crimes. "

I'm certainly reassured, my golly goods you betcha.

[T.A.M.]

lol...and with that all hopes of a deal for LC:FC went out the Nazi Window...

TAM:)

[Nick Terry]

Gack.

Sounds like Mars Attacks!

[OldTigerCub]

Do you get your choice of a swastika armband or white sheet and hood when you join?
Or do you have to bring your own?:confused:

[Oliver]

That's unfair - we should have something similar as well.

[TriskettheKid]

I'm wondering how many times the following phrases will be posted there:

"Now, I'm not anti-semitic, but...."

"Let me just say that I have several Jewish friends..."

"I'm not anti-semitic, I'm just against Israel...."

I'm guessing the middle phrase will be used more than the other two.

[dudalb]

It is fun the way the the Twoofers keep shooting themselves in the foot,though.
Anybody with half a brain would tell them that setting up that forum is begging for a full scale invasion of Anti Semitic wackjobs.

[apathoid]

I'm wondering how many times the following phrases will be posted there:

"Now, I'm not anti-semitic, but...."

"Let me just say that I have several Jewish friends..."

"I'm not anti-semitic, I'm just against Israel...."

I'm guessing the middle phrase will be used more than the other two.


Or........

"I'm not a Holocaust Denier, but........"

[jhunter1163]

Might want to bag some screen caps there before Dylan wakes up to just how big a pooch-(rule10) this is.

ETA: Congratulations to Bell on 4K. Hope you make many, many more.

[Bell]

It's only fitting I make my 4000th post in this thread. As homage to the 4000 Jews who did not show up at work on 9/11.

[parky76]

"I hate the Talmud..but Im not an anti-Semite"

"I think the Bolshevik Revolution was a Zionist plot..but Im not an anti-Semite"

"I think the Zionists killed Lincoln, JFK, and RFK...but Im not an anti-Semite"

"I think that the Germans hated the Jews because of they were traitors to Europe..but Im not an anti-Semite"

Does that sum it all up?

[SDC]

It's only fitting I make my 4000th post in this thread. As homage to the 4000 Jews who did not show up at work on 9/11.

They were dancing.

[jhunter1163]

Don't forget "I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm anti-Zionist."

[T.A.M.]

You can see the OP to such a section should read something like this....

Welcome to the "Israel" subforum at LCF. This is a place where we discuss how Israel, while having the right to "exist", is the homeland of the evil all powerful Zionists who rule the rest of the world through projecting hatred, eating Arab babies, and exaggerating about the holocaust. Please feel free to hang out and chat.

TAM;)

[gumboot]

I love how they establish an Israel subforum, and implement strong moderation to ensure no one is accused of being Anti-semitic. Only in the truth movement.

We're going to establish camps to put all detractors in, but don't worry, we'll have heavily armed guards in place to ensure that no one accuses us of being Nazis.

-Gumboot

[DGM]

IVXX says that this area is by popular demand, and it's not LC's fault. "The section will be heavily moderated to ensure, as much as possible, no offense (and thus flaming) be taken by anyone. There will be a three strikes policy. Warning > Suspension > Banning. Likewise, there will be no tolerance shown to general accusations of anti-semitism towards users who offer credible information regarding Israeli govt/Mossad crimes. "

Yet they claim there's no problem with anti-semitism in the "truth" movement.:rolleyes:

[defaultdotxbe]

I'm wondering how many times the following phrases will be posted there:

"Now, I'm not anti-semitic, but...."

"Let me just say that I have several Jewish friends..."

"I'm not anti-semitic, I'm just against Israel...."

I'm guessing the middle phrase will be used more than the other two.
their usual justification is "im not antisemitic, im anti zionist"

we should start a pool!

[jhunter1163]

their usual justification is "im not antisemitic, im anti zionist"

we should start a pool!


OK.. I'm setting the over/under on the use of that phrase in the next 24 hours (till 8 EST 10/11) at 50. Who wants some of this action?

[T.A.M.]

I would love Rosie and Chuck Sheen to have a looksie and post there...

Can you imagine if TMZ.com got wind of such a thing...lol

Dylan has lost his mind to allow such a section on his site.

TAM:)

[jhunter1163]

It was really very good of Dylan to give us one-stop shopping for the anti-Semitic stuff. Before, we used to have to hunt all through the LC subforums. Thanks, Dylan.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

And yet they're the ones claiming to fear "FEMA death camps". :i:

[jhunter1163]

Anybody screencapping? I have a feeling that subforum is going to go away soon...

[Bell]

"Larry Silverstein had a lease on the WTC and owned WTC7. Silverstein is a Jew. Also, Daniel Libeskind designed the Freedom Tower. Libeskind is a Jew as well. I'm not insinuating that Jews, in fact, are evil. I just find it a convenient coincidence that both of them are Jews."

Or something like that.

[jhunter1163]

So any Jew who is remotely successful in any discipline is a Mossad agent/Zionist/Illuminati/Elder of Zion? Is that what I am to understand?

[LashL]

lol...and with that all hopes of a deal for LC:FC went out the Nazi Window...


Or, possibly, it is the other way around and now that they know they have no hope of a deal for LC:FC, they feel free to return to their previously scheduled programming...

[CptColumbo]

nevermind

[jhunter1163]

Or, possibly, it is the other way around and now that they know they have no hope of a deal for LC:FC, they feel free to return to their previously scheduled programming...

I'd bet this rather than the other way around.

[Bell]

So any Jew who is remotely successful in any discipline is a Mossad agent/Zionist/Illuminati/Elder of Zion? Is that what I am to understand?

Quite right. Because we all know Jewish intelligence is a myth! (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=95402)

[Hyperviolet]

How exactly to word this...

Okay, i do not think opening a section on Israel is anti-semetic. Just stupid, and baseless.
In principle, i think having an Israel section isn't any more racist than having, say, a Pakistan section. Even though it will attract racists.
Does that make sense?
Opening a forum because you (wrongly) believe that there was Israeli intelligence involved in your conspiracy theory doesn't automatically mean you are racist.

It's undoubtedly a stupid move on LC's part. It will attract people who are just downright racist.

That said, i don't think it's accurate to say LTW=Nazis.

[parky76]

I wonder if posts about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion will be allowed?

Once again, this is the greatest gift Loose Change could have given us. I think Dylan has given up. Seeing 100 people at GZ on 9-11 showed him that his labor is fruitless.

Hyper- the well known fact is that this section will draw mostly anti-Semites. They will hide their hatred of Jews under "I just hate Zionism". But in the end, they will slip up, and it will come out.

It always has, and it always will. You don't have to be an anti-Semite to be anti-Zionist...but you usually are.

[Bell]

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't Jewish a religion instead of a race?

[CHF]

IVXX says that this area is by popular demand

Oh I'm sure it is.

[gumboot]

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't Jewish a religion instead of a race?




Judaism is a religion. "Jewry" or being "Jewish" is an ethnic distinction.

-Gumboot

[Hyperviolet]

Hyper- the well known fact is that this section will draw mostly anti-Semites. They will hide their hatred of Jews under "I just hate Zionism". But in the end, they will slip up, and it will come out.

I never contested that, Parky.
In fact, i stated in my post that anti-semites will flock to that subforum. It's a patently stupid move on LC's part.

[jhunter1163]

How exactly to word this...

Okay, i do not think opening a section on Israel is anti-semetic. Just stupid, and baseless.
In principle, i think having an Israel section isn't any more racist than having, say, a Pakistan section. Even though it will attract racists.
Does that make sense?
Opening a forum because you (wrongly) believe that there was Israeli intelligence involved in your conspiracy theory doesn't automatically mean you are racist.

It's undoubtedly a stupid move on LC's part. It will attract people who are just downright racist.

That said, i don't think it's accurate to say LTW=Nazis.

The difference is, Dylan and crew know that there are Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites in their midst. They know that many of the leading lights in their movement have long histories of anti-Semitism. They're basically just giving them a place to spout their garbage with a thin veneer of moderation.

ETA: I agree that Dylan et al are not Nazis. But they ARE giving the Nazis among them a place to congregate. And I also agree about the patent-stupidity thing.

[Hyperviolet]

The difference is, Dylan and crew know that there are Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites in their midst. They know that many of the leading lights in their movement have long histories of anti-Semitism. They're basically just giving them a place to spout their garbage with a thin veneer of moderation.

Hence, why i said it's a stupid idea.

[Oliver]

Y'all should calm down and stick to the facts.
There is a Disclaimer to this Sub-Forum and it clearly states:

The views expressed in this section do not represent those of Loose Change/Louder Than Words.

Due to demand from users, a section detailing the Israeli Mossad's possible involvement in 9/11 has been created. This section will not tolerate blanket assumptions such as "the jews did it", nor will there be any tolerance shown for 'jew hating'.

There will also be NO tolerance shown to any Holocaust Denial. The section will be heavily moderated to ensure, as much as possible, no offense (and thus flaming) be taken by anyone.

There will be a three strikes policy. Warning > Suspension > Banning. Likewise, there will be no tolerance shown to general accusations of anti-semitism towards users who offer credible information regarding Israeli govt/Mossad crimes.

Source: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showforum=40





This basically means that their new Sub-Forum isn't meant
as some kind of Nazi-Sandbox - quite the opposite. Those
who don't stick to the rules - wont last very long, most
probably including the posts they made.

[Magenta]

Actually, it's not that active... yet. 3 topics posted since Sunday, with 5 replies. Give it time I suppose.

[OldTigerCub]

Quote:
IVXX says that this area is by popular demand, and it's not LC's fault. "The section will be heavily moderated to ensure, as much as possible, no offense (and thus flaming) be taken by anyone. There will be a three strikes policy. Warning > Suspension > Banning. Likewise, there will be no tolerance shown to general accusations of anti-semitism towards users who offer credible information regarding Israeli govt/Mossad crimes. "

Yet they claim there's no problem with anti-semitism in the "truth" movement.:rolleyes:


So, does this mean they want to be anti-semitic or anti-anti-semitic or anti-anti-anti-semitic or that they just want to pretend to be anti-anti-anti-anti-semitic....


I just can't help but wonder if the irony of their policy post is lost on way too many at the LCF.:rolleyes:

[gumboot]

Y'all should calm down and stick to the facts.
There is a Disclaimer to this Sub-Forum and it clearly states:




This basically means that their new Sub-Forum isn't meant
as some kind of Nazi-Sandbox - quite the opposite. Those
who don't stick to the rules - wont last very long, most
probably including the posts they made.


You don't read very well do you?

The last point you bolded states that you will get banned for accusing posters there of being anti-semitic.

Aside from which, the posters here are familiar enough with the Loose Change Forums to know what their "moderating" consists of.

-Gumboot

[jhunter1163]

The views expressed in this section do not represent those of Loose Change/Louder Than Words.

Due to demand from users, a section detailing the Israeli Mossad's possible involvement in 9/11 has been created. This section will not tolerate blanket assumptions such as "the jews did it", nor will there be any tolerance shown for 'jew hating'. There will also be NO tolerance shown to any Holocaust Denial. The section will be heavily moderated to ensure, as much as possible, no offense (and thus flaming) be taken by anyone. There will be a three strikes policy. Warning > Suspension > Banning. Likewise, there will be no tolerance shown to general accusations of anti-semitism towards users who offer credible information regarding Israeli govt/Mossad crimes.
So you can't call them anti-Semites if their information is credible. However, as Dylan has sourced AFP and AJ, who in turn sources Stormfront, I think we can conclude that pretty much anything on AFP, Prisonplanet or Stormfront will be considered credible.

I hope you're right that it's not going to be a Nazi sandbox, Oliver, but I have my doubts.

[BenBurch]

Don't worry, they are just showing their true colors.

I have no doubt they think the only reason they cannot get mainstream press is the Jewish-owned media.

[Bell]

Judaism is a religion. "Jewry" or being "Jewish" is an ethnic distinction.

-Gumboot

Ah, thanks. I did a bit of reading on Wikipedia after your comment, and it now becomes more clear to me. I always thought that Jewish was like, for example, Catholic, ie just a religion, and wondered how one could be racist against a religion.

[CptColumbo]

Ah, thanks. I did a bit of reading on Wikipedia after your comment, and it now becomes more clear to me. I always thought that Jewish was like, for example, Catholic, ie just a religion, and wondered how one could be racist against a religion.Those damn Druids started it.:)

[gumboot]

Ah, thanks. I did a bit of reading on Wikipedia after your comment, and it now becomes more clear to me. I always thought that Jewish was like, for example, Catholic, ie just a religion, and wondered how one could be racist against a religion.


It's a bit confusing because the religion is the single most significant defining feature of the Jewish ethnicity. Ethnicity merely being a collection of people with distinct characteristics (appearance, clothing, language, religion, customs whatever...) that distinguishes them from others.

-Gumboot

[NYCEMT86]

Those damn Druids started it.:)

Nah, it was those damn Tuskin Raiders....dirty little.... :D



ETA: No matter what way they project this whole Israel section, the writing is on the wall, involving Israel with 9/11 or any other Zionist bull is the same as just blatantly saying the "Jews did it". Will this hurt the truth movement? Of course...now I can't wait to see the fallout from this.

[Corsair 115]

Sounds like Mars Attacks! [Slim Whitman] When I'm calling youoooooo... [/Slim Whitman]

*head explodes*

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Those damn Druids started it.:)
Funny, she doesn't look Druish.

[parky76]

There will be no fall out from this. Because in all honesty, except for JREF, no one really cares about the 9-11 Truth Movemant. They have no backing, they have no support. And their own people know this. I say in 3 years all that will be left of the 9-11 Truth Movemant will be Alex Jones and Killtown...=)

[NYCEMT86]

There will be no fall out from this. Because in all honesty, except for JREF, no one really cares about the 9-11 Truth Movemant. They have no backing, they have no support. And their own people know this. I say in 3 years all that will be left of the 9-11 Truth Movemant will be Alex Jones and Killtown...=)

Eh I am going to have to disagree on Alex Jones part. As long as he continues to use his super secret gubermint code breaking skillz he will always be around (i.e. believing that forest means forced) he will find something to keep his wallet full.

[~enigma~]

The difference is, Dylan and crew know that there are Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites in their midst. They know that many of the leading lights in their movement have long histories of anti-Semitism. They're basically just giving them a place to spout their garbage with a thin veneer of moderation.

ETA: I agree that Dylan et al are not Nazis. But they ARE giving the Nazis among them a place to congregate. And I also agree about the patent-stupidity thing.
Did anybody stop to think that most posters on LCF don't want to be subjected to alot of anti-semitic bs and just plain anti-Israel or anti-zionist nonsense? Since it is all being put in it's own section it can EASILY be avded by those who choose to.

[~enigma~]

Actually, it's not that active... yet. 3 topics posted since Sunday, with 5 replies. Give it time I suppose.
There is a reason...tell me who are the avid anti-semites at LCF and then tell me who posted in that section.

[Magenta]

There is a reason...tell me who are the avid anti-semites at LCF and then tell me who posted in that section.


Well, only pi3, Terrorcell and HeadSpin have posted in the new forum and, as far as I can tell, only one of them seems to fit the anti-Semite description*. As for the rest of the forum, I've read enough of the threads to know there are a variety of opinions, but not enough to recall who the resident racists are.

I'm not familiar with the moderation policy and internal dynamics at LCF. Is the "demand from users" IVXX refers to coming from those posters who want the racist stuff quarantined in a separate section and more closely moderated?

*ETA: I'm assuming they endorse the views in the essay they posted.

[suds101]

I'm wondering how many times the following phrases will be posted there:

"Now, I'm not anti-semitic, but...."

"Let me just say that I have several Jewish friends..."

"I'm not anti-semitic, I'm just against Israel...."

I'm guessing the middle phrase will be used more than the other two.

Hahah, so true.

[suds101]

Or for Parky's sake, "I am not a self-hating jew, I am anti-zionist". Parky, I have read many of your posts and as a Jew myself I am annoyed when you spew Jimmy Carter's talking points and than remind everyone that you, yourself are jewish. Why should that matter. If you have to defend your comments for being anti-semitic with "I am jewish" than chances are they are a bit.

[~enigma~]

I'm not familiar with the moderation policy and internal dynamics at LCF. Is the "demand from users" IVXX refers to coming from those posters who want the racist stuff quarantined in a separate section and more closely moderated?
Pretty much...I'm kind of surprised though that the only reasons the people have posted here are the ones that are "bad."

[Undesired Walrus]

Seriously, what is so wrong with the Jews?

[buka001]

3 strike policy at LCF?

I got banned with no explanation, no reason what so ever. Mirage memories posted that I was a member of JREF and bam, I was instantly banned.

[Drudgewire]

Seriously, what is so wrong with the Jews?
Have you ever tried drinking Manischewitz? http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/barf.gif

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

I wonder if posts about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion will be allowed?

Allowed? It will be required reading, and to be unquestioned... It is The Bible of Modern Day (20th century and on) Conspiracy Theories.

[fagin]

After checking one thread I have a whole new respect for the CT's. Anyone who can read that drivel deserves some. I got about a third of the way through a looooooooooooooooooooong post before my head exploded.
I'll wait for the illustrated version.

[SDC]

I have a question -- I feel like saying a "real question," because I'm not trying to be snarky -- about the screen name (?) "IVXX." I look at that and see 4-20, which was Hitler's birthday printed in the American style (ok, 20 April), and a notorious date therefore among American conspiracy followers. I don't know if it's still the case, but around that date, in the 1990s there always seemed to be warnings about rightist, home-grown terror acts. (4-19 also comes up as a date, which is 1/ the shootouts with the Redcoats at Lexington and Concord in 1775, and 2/ right next to Hitler's b'day.)

Does this screen name indicate a different explanation? I'd ask over at LCF but I've never gone there except to read and would hope not to.

[Drudgewire]

There's always an upswing in paranoia right around that time, especially after Columbine, OK City, and Waco.

[~enigma~]

Does this screen name indicate a different explanation? Why don't you google 420 instead of giving a stupidly anti-semitic reason for the meaning of the screenname.

[Drudgewire]

Why don't you google 420 instead of giving a stupidly anti-semitic reason for the meaning of the screenname.
http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/bong.gif

[BenBurch]

It's not 4:20! It's 10:10! Darn!

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/z/C/bush_bong.jpg

[SDC]

Why don't you google 420 instead of giving a stupidly anti-semitic reason for the meaning of the screenname.

Oh, piffle. I asked a question, not gave a reason. In my world, these are different functions. Anyhow, here is one Google answer, as per your friendly suggestion.

1/ 420 AD: "Pharamond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharamond) leads the Franks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks) across the Rhine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine)."

Hmmm... Maybe too subtle.... Let's try another Google response.

2/ "4:20 or 4/20 (pronounced four-twenty) is a term used in North America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America) as a discreet way to refer to the consumption of cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29) and, by extension, a way to identify oneself with cannabis culture. Phrases such as "420 friendly" sometimes appear in roommate advertisements, indicating that the current occupants are tolerant of cannabis users."

Aha! Maybe he's a stoner!

Well, that's fine, but I can only say that if he is a person with some responsibility at a place like LCF, he ought to be more careful about his conspiratorial-type references. In my world 4-20 translates as "20 April" which is a more threatening reference than "hey, wow, let's get wasted."

But chacun a son gout, as the old lady said when she kissed the cow.

ETA: Wait, wait! Here are some more from Wikipedia, found via Google:

"420 can also refer to:

420 (number) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28number%29)
420 (dinghy) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28dinghy%29), in sailing, a class of doublehanded racing sailboats
420 (cannabis culture) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28cannabis_culture%29), a term used in North America as a discreet way to refer to cannabis
April 20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_20)
One of a number of highways numbered 420 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highways_numbered_420)
Section 420 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_420), of the Indian Penal Code, a slang reference for a confidence trickster
4 & 20 meat pies, a popular brand of pies in Australia."

[~enigma~]

Oh, piffle. I asked a question, not gave a reason. In my world, these are different functions. Anyhow, here is one Google answer, as per your friendly suggestion.

1/ 420 AD: "Pharamond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharamond) leads the Franks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks) across the Rhine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine)."

Hmmm... Maybe too subtle.... Let's try another Google response.

2/ "4:20 or 4/20 (pronounced four-twenty) is a term used in North America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America) as a discreet way to refer to the consumption of cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29) and, by extension, a way to identify oneself with cannabis culture. Phrases such as "420 friendly" sometimes appear in roommate advertisements, indicating that the current occupants are tolerant of cannabis users."

Aha! Maybe he's a stoner!

Well, that's fine, but I can only say that if he is a person with some responsibility at a place like LCF, he ought to be more careful about his conspiratorial-type references. In my world 4-20 translates as "20 April" which is a more threatening reference than "hey, wow, let's get wasted."

But chacun a son gout, as the old lady said when she kissed the cow.

ETA: Wait, wait! Here are some more from Wikipedia, found via Google:

"420 can also refer to:

420 (number) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28number%29)
420 (dinghy) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28dinghy%29), in sailing, a class of doublehanded racing sailboats
420 (cannabis culture) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28cannabis_culture%29), a term used in North America as a discreet way to refer to cannabis
April 20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_20)
One of a number of highways numbered 420 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highways_numbered_420)
Section 420 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_420), of the Indian Penal Code, a slang reference for a confidence trickster
4 & 20 meat pies, a popular brand of pies in Australia."
Your first assumption was an idiotic anti-semitic one. It seems Drudgewire figured out what 420 refers to but instead you have to post and show us all how stubborn you really are. Welcome to ignore...

[SDC]

Your first assumption was an idiotic anti-semitic one. It seems Drudgewire figured out what 420 refers to but instead you have to post and show us all how stubborn you really are. Welcome to ignore...

Drudgewire is probably a lot younger than me. I gave up getting stoned in, oh, about 1975, perhaps before a lot of the young snappers of whips on this list were born.

As for stubborn, well, in my response to you I thought I was just having a little fun. Sorry, and my profuse apologies for the "Pharamond crosses the Rhine" reference. Be good.

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

Your first assumption was an idiotic anti-semitic one. It seems Drudgewire figured out what 420 refers to but instead you have to post and show us all how stubborn you really are. Welcome to ignore...

I'm still trying to figure out if you're being serious or not.

[Drudgewire]

Your first assumption was an idiotic anti-semitic one. It seems Drudgewire figured out what 420 refers to but instead you have to post and show us all how stubborn you really are. Welcome to ignore...
BUT it does also have significance in the white power movement. To get upset over it would be like getting upset that someone said "88" can be used in reference to Hitler because it's Marvin Harrison's football number.

[~enigma~]

BUT it does also have significance in the white power movement. To get upset over it would be like getting upset that someone said "88" can be used in reference to Hitler because it's Marvin Harrison's football number.
Why don't you pick a more apt example? For instance, my parents anniversary is 4/20. I wonder if anybody can rightfully say that they did that because they were honoring hitler's birthday. Incidentally, my father's birthday was 4/19 and 4/20 was the first saturday after his birthday the year they got married. Maybe on first sight some nutjob would think the date was chosen to honor hitler but upon examining the situation they see a totally innocent reason. Sort of like this IVXX hitler bs.

[JimBenArm]

Your first assumption was an idiotic anti-semitic one. It seems Drudgewire figured out what 420 refers to but instead you have to post and show us all how stubborn you really are. Welcome to ignore...
I'm not sure what to make of you lately. You seem to want to have arguments with everyone over things that make no sense, and put people on ignore for even less.
Go ahead and put me on ignore, too, if it makes you happier. Don't want to wait for the pointless argument or other silliness. Everyone's gonna wind up on your list anyway, so guess I'll beat the rush!
Of course, this is everyone else's fault...

[Drudgewire]

Maybe on first sight some nutjob would think the date was chosen to honor hitler but upon examining the situation they see a totally innocent reason. Sort of like this IVXX hitler bs.
Except we're talking about an Israel section of a forum that assuredly DOES HAVE anti-semites on it. Of course there are also plenty of dope smokers as well at LC but considering what we're talking about it isn't beyond the realm of possibility for him to have that name even if he never touches the chronic.

Again, ask the parents of the kids killed at Columbine or the families of those lost in Oklahoma City if it's crazy to suggest that dumb white hicks see any significance in the numbers "420" other than pot.

[SDC]

BUT it does also have significance in the white power movement. To get upset over it would be like getting upset that someone said "88" can be used in reference to Hitler because it's Marvin Harrison's football number.

"Marvin Harrison"?? Oh, ok, I looked him up. Hint: in my age cohort the relevant Colts reference, = 19 Johnny Unitas. (I can barely remember the 1958 championship "greatest game" with the NY Giants. And that was the BALTIMORE Colts, the real ones!)

I know I'm now on ignore, but I want to make a point. The fact is that I do not believe that to most people over, say, 40, or maybe 50, "420" is an obvious reference to getting stoned. The home grown American extreme right has obviously faded in significance compared to 9/11 and aftermath -- but I repeat, at least in the 1990s, 4/19-4/20 represented a couple of days of dire expectations every year. This appeared in the media; I didn't make it up; nor was it noticed only by those who saw anti-Semites under every rock.

Mr IVXX represents a web forum where anti-semitism seems to some degree tolerated, within a certain "Mossad did it" framework. The fact that his screen name can be translated to appear to be a reference to 20 April is, anyhow, a questionable choice on his part, for that reason. I'm willing to accept he is a 22 year old stoner, or the like, and didn't know this connection. Fine. But for those who remember when the greatest threat to US democracy and tolerance appeared to be the extreme Christian right, the "Turner Diaries," the murder of Alan Berg, and the idea that Idaho or other parts of the Northwest should be the White Aryan homeland, well... If he were my kid I'd say, "step a little more carefully there."

All I got to say about this. I recognize and apologize for the derail.

[CurtC]

"Now, I'm not anti-semitic, but...."


They'll just deny that the term "anti-semitic" means intolerance or hatred of jews. (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=16942&view=findpost&p=14632781)

You see, the ADL defines it that way, but that's not what it "really" means.

[~enigma~]

I'm not sure what to make of you lately. You seem to want to have arguments with everyone over things that make no sense, and put people on ignore for even less.
Go ahead and put me on ignore, too, if it makes you happier. Don't want to wait for the pointless argument or other silliness. Everyone's gonna wind up on your list anyway, so guess I'll beat the rush!
Of course, this is everyone else's fault...
I am arguing? Wrong...some people are making stupid assumptions and I point them out. If they reply and try to argue I have found the only effective way of saying shut up and drop your stupiity in a PC way is to put them on ignore and that usually stops their stupidity but since you requested that I put you on ignore, I will fulfill your request.

[~enigma~]

Except we're talking about an Israel section of a forum that assuredly DOES HAVE anti-semites on it. Of course there are also plenty of dope smokers as well at LC but considering what we're talking about it isn't beyond the realm of possibility for him to have that name even if he never touches the chronic.

Again, ask the parents of the kids killed at Columbine or the families of those lost in Oklahoma City if it's crazy to suggest that dumb white hicks see any significance in the numbers "420" other than pot.
Until SDC brought up the screenname we were. If you think I am referring to anything other than IVXX's screenname you are wrong. Incidentally, besides his announcement in that section (which he closed since no reply was necessary), what has he posted in that section to justify the idiotic thought that IVXX refers to hitler's birthday?

[SDC]

Oh nuts. I shouldn't bother, but... If he were reading, I'd say, "see #77 for the significance of any 4/20 reference." I guess he is a young sprat and never heard of the American extreme right's obsessions with the 4/19-4/20 dates.

For all I know, IVXX is a 22 yr old stoner who has never heard of any of this. And for all I know, he is a saint who walks on holy water. (Is that allowed, by the way?) IVXX, wherever you are, forgive me! And I apologize to your parents and nearest + dearest! But again, if he were my kid, I'd tell him a little recent American history.

[Drudgewire]

Until SDC brought up the screenname we were. If you think I am referring to anything other than IVXX's screenname you are wrong. Incidentally, besides his announcement in that section (which he closed since no reply was necessary), what has he posted in that section to justify the idiotic thought that IVXX refers to hitler's birthday?
Whatever. Keep nitpicking, just do it without me. Congrats on being the first non-CT'er to make my ignore list.

[JimBenArm]

Oh nuts. I shouldn't bother, but... If he were reading, I'd say, "see #77 for the significance of any 4/20 reference." I guess he is a young sprat and never heard of the American extreme right's obsessions with the 4/19-4/20 dates.

For all I know, IVXX is a 22 yr old stoner who has never heard of any of this. And for all I know, he is a saint who walks on holy water. (Is that allowed, by the way?) IVXX, wherever you are, forgive me! And I apologize to your parents and nearest + dearest! But again, if he were my kid, I'd tell him a little recent American history.
Don't feel too bad. The enigma drama has been going on for a while now. I think his ignore list is up to about 15 now. Usually it's because of some misunderstanding on his part, but he can't back down from his initial stance for some reason. And usually, 2 or 3 others wind up on ignore as well, just for trying to mediate. So, it was just a matter of time for me to wind up there.
Not a "badge of honor" but really sad...

[beachnut]

Y'all should calm down and stick to the facts.
There is a Disclaimer to this Sub-Forum and it clearly states:




This basically means that their new Sub-Forum isn't meant
as some kind of Nazi-Sandbox - quite the opposite. Those
who don't stick to the rules - wont last very long, most
probably including the posts they made.
And you believe the biggest group of liars on the planet, who only real rivals are NAZIs; You believe these idiots who are patrolled by teenagers with the judgment of the kids in lord of the flies?

Like the belief the gas chambers in NAZI Germany were showers and the rocks were soap? Calm down Oliver, they are liars, and having a section on Israel is proof of stupidity is still king at LCF, the forum for nuts and dolts who love lies they think are "truth". Stop defending idiot ideas of LCF who are dumb enough to have a section just for bs ideas on Israel, when they are suppose to be about 9/11 truth. When will they start commenting on 9/11 truth, it has been 6 years and no truth from LCF yet. When?

[tsig]

I'm not sure what to make of you lately. You seem to want to have arguments with everyone over things that make no sense, and put people on ignore for even less.
Go ahead and put me on ignore, too, if it makes you happier. Don't want to wait for the pointless argument or other silliness. Everyone's gonna wind up on your list anyway, so guess I'll beat the rush!
Of course, this is everyone else's fault...


He bounced me to ignore before i really understood what he was saying. My first ever ignore on the internet.

He seems to have real anger problems.

[cludgie]

This reminds of some troofer who posts on another board who claims Israel is planning to take water from Afghanistan via Pakistan and then ship it back to Israel. Saying that, he seems somewhat obsessed with Israel anyway.

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't also so very very sad.

[SDC]

This reminds of some troofer who posts on another board who claims Israel is planning to take water from Afghanistan via Pakistan and then ship it back to Israel. Saying that, he seems somewhat obsessed with Israel anyway.

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't also so very very sad.

It sounds like a variation on the Mel Brooks movie, "Space Balls" (in which the villains plan to steal the air from a planet with [spoiler alert!] a giant vacuum cleaner.)