Craig Ranke on TV right now...

[Oliver]

http://www.thestream.tv/

[Pardalis]

what a dolt.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/8886470d8e0dad956.gif

[fuelair]

and, with no offense, this should interest us because.......................?

[NDBoston]

http://www.thestream.tv/


Save these threads for the Loose Change Forum, please.

[Oliver]

and, with no offense, this should interest us because.......................?


Because Pardalis needed a new Avatar with the
American Flag upside down. :)

[Oliver]

Save these threads for the Loose Change Forum, please.


No.

Because we actually have a Citgo-Fan-Team here as well.
http://forums.randi.org/tags/index.php/pentacon/

[Oliver]

For those who missed it - the stream will be available here:
http://www.thestream.tv/series.php?s=22

[A W Smith]

For those who missed it - the stream will be available here:
http://www.thestream.tv/series.php?s=22

its not there yet, when do they archive?

I see theres a thread for it
http://www.thestream.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?t=674

[Brainache]

what a dolt.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/8886470d8e0dad956.gif

Isn't that one of the guys from The Monkees?

[Bobert]

Craig is one manly man.

[Undesired Walrus]

Direct link?

[Oliver]

The episode is online now:
http://www.thestream.tv/watch.php?v=371

[Undesired Walrus]

What's wrong with that guy?

9:01 is a funny moment.

[chillzero]

Oh, my.

That was just .... harsh ... and callous.

I can't bear a host who would insert loud laughter at the witnesses who were there that day, because they "think they are defending the government". A man who believes that instead of using a shredder, the government would kill all those people, including his cousin ... who kinda... sorta... worked with top secret confidential documents .. and laughs at that. (I would be certain that most documents in any government building - let along the Pentagon - would be top secret confidential).

A despicable demonstration of how to summarise things in terms of a personal agenda and ignore or sneer at anything to the contrary.

[chillzero]

Ugh... Accusing the police officers of falsely embellishing their accounts to support the government, until our local hero came along to ensure they gave the 'correct' account a few years later, which obviously is the correct one, merely because it supports his view.

I would love to see what the officers have to say about this.

[The Silver Shadow]

Craig Ranke takes forever to say nothing. He hasn't added anything new, and he tiptoes around certain topics, just by saying that it's a lie...

[nicepants]

10:34 - "I'm not going to speculate.."

10:55 - "We do have a hypothesis..."

:rolleyes:

ETA: I wonder what makes Craig's 4 witnesses right and the rest of the witnesses wrong.....

[HyJinX]

Holy crap on toast points.

That's what I like to refer to as:

[Calcas]

Can ya feel the love?

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=17051&view=findpost&p=14636832

[NickUK]

I still laugh at the incredibly pompous way they refer to themselves, often in the 3rd person as Citizen's Investigation Team - it's so funny :D

Me and the mrs have a joint bank account, I'm thinking of getting the bank to change our chequebook details to Underpaid Permadebt Team.

Then I can ring them up - "Well, the UPT would like to pay back the overdraft, but UPT don't currently have sufficient financial input to stabilise the balance".

[fuelair]

10:34 - "I'm not going to speculate.."

10:55 - "We do have a hypothesis..."

:rolleyes:

ETA: I wonder what makes Craig's 4 witnesses right and the rest of the witnesses wrong.....
They are very adept at speaking forcefully from their anal orifices and the regular witnesses have to use their mouths.:)

[Sabrina]

Oh, my.

That was just .... harsh ... and callous.

I can't bear a host who would insert loud laughter at the witnesses who were there that day, because they "think they are defending the government". A man who believes that instead of using a shredder, the government would kill all those people, including his cousin ... who kinda... sorta... worked with top secret confidential documents .. and laughs at that. (I would be certain that most documents in any government building - let along the Pentagon - would be top secret confidential).

A despicable demonstration of how to summarise things in terms of a personal agenda and ignore or sneer at anything to the contrary.

strictly speaking, very few documents contained in government buildings are "top secret". The vast majority are unclassified/FOUO (For Official Use Only), i.e. documents containing personal information and the like; those vastly outnumber the classified documents. However, BECAUSE there ARE documents that are Top Secret in many government buildings, the security measures have to be greater than those in other buildings.

Other than that, I wholeheartedly agree with your post, chillzero; this man is a complete [rule10].

[Oliver]

On this show Craig said they will publish their latest investigational
highlight about the "White Plane" today - did someone find it already?

All I found was a clip about "The lying Priest" :

-5085491450059007792

[Pardalis]

Isn't that one of the guys from The Monkees?

He is the monkey.

[beachnut]

CIT says "
"I have no possible way to answer that" "I don't have evidence" "not flight 77" "it did not look like 77" "white plane" "it didn't hit the building" "we can prove"

theory – "set up with pre planted explosives"

This guy is full of so much BS I was going to nominate him as a nation treasure for use of methane gas, a new energy source.

The lack of knowledge on that show; wow.

[dudalb]

Can ya feel the love?

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=17051&view=findpost&p=14636832


I see the LC forum is still displaying such wonderful tolerence toward people who don't buy Dylan's Kool Aid.

[Newtons Bit]

strictly speaking, very few documents contained in government buildings are "top secret". The vast majority are unclassified/FOUO (For Official Use Only), i.e. documents containing personal information and the like; those vastly outnumber the classified documents. However, BECAUSE there ARE documents that are Top Secret in many government buildings, the security measures have to be greater than those in other buildings.

Other than that, I wholeheartedly agree with your post, chillzero; this man is a complete [rule10].

I hate FOUO documents. We have to put them away in a locked cabinet everyday. Pain in the ass when you're working on a big project.

[A W Smith]

Isn't that one of the guys from The Monkees?
OMG.. Craig Ranke is Peter Pan (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_ppx2.htm)?

[Pardalis]

OMG.. Craig Ranke is Peter Pan (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_ppx2.htm)?

:dl:

I don't think I've ever cried so much in my life. May I ask you sir how you got to surf that page? ;)

[A W Smith]

:dl:

I don't think I've ever cried so much in my life. May I ask you sir how you got to surf that page? ;)


Its a Flyover (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/Imagez/whiteshirt.jpg) I tell ya!

I was referred to it (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/index.html)over eight years ago by someone in a chat program I used to frequent. It has to be the most peculiar site I have encountered to date

This page (http://throughthecracks.org/my_bio.html)explains how poor peter got that way


Drugs... my ACID era
Somewhere around maybe 17, I became very interested in LSD, largely due to all the publicity it was getting on TV as "the new drug". The TV reports described how it made people see colors and rainbows and put them into a fantasy world for 8 to 10 hours at a time. "Sounds good to me!!!" I thought, and I made it my business to get some. I did a lot of reading about it, and did everything by the book... including having at least one friend in the room that was not using the drug. To those that don't know, LSD is a tremendous mind altering drug. It does indeed cause what I can only describe as all encompassing hallucinations, in which the mind will convert music into the most amazing patterns of light and color. It also puts you (or at least it did me) into a very childlike state, and if you are not mentally stable or the environment is bad, it can turn into a nightmare experience that we referred to as a bad trip, or "flipping out".
LSD is on a certain level anti-addictive. First of all, if you take it less than 12 days apart, it will lose most of its effect. Second, the experience is so profound that most people would not want to use it again anytime soon. For me however, it marked the beginning of a lifestyle of progressively frequent drug use, with LSD and other hallucinogens at the top of my list. As a single parent, my dad was not able to police me as he probably would have otherwise. It was far too easy for me to have people over the house to trip out and get high anytime. I was also a pretty smart kid, so that unlike many of my friends, my schoolwork was not being affected at all by these drugs. In fact, I remember scoring a 94 on my Physics regents exam, which I completed in 1/3 the allotted time, after having used LSD for the first time just 2 nights before. But the lines between fantasy and reality were beginning to blur in my life. The effects of LSD lend themselves quite well to spiritual openness and curiosity. Around that time, a band called the Moody Blues became my favorite group. With their great blend of Rock and Orchestral music, and lyrics that always hinted at the greater realities of God, Love, and Hope, I was becoming a very philosophical kid.

[Pardalis]

OMG, just when you think it couldn't possibly get worse, it does (http://pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_pp7.htm), and it it keeps on worsening (http://pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_buny.htm)...

[JimBenArm]

Its a Flyover (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/Imagez/whiteshirt.jpg) I tell ya!

I was referred to it (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/index.html)over eight years ago by someone in a chat program I used to frequent. It has to be the most peculiar site I have encountered to date

This page (http://throughthecracks.org/my_bio.html)explains how poor peter got that way


Drugs... my ACID era
Somewhere around maybe 17, I became very interested in LSD, largely due to all the publicity it was getting on TV as "the new drug". The TV reports described how it made people see colors and rainbows and put them into a fantasy world for 8 to 10 hours at a time. "Sounds good to me!!!" I thought, and I made it my business to get some. I did a lot of reading about it, and did everything by the book... including having at least one friend in the room that was not using the drug. To those that don't know, LSD is a tremendous mind altering drug. It does indeed cause what I can only describe as all encompassing hallucinations, in which the mind will convert music into the most amazing patterns of light and color. It also puts you (or at least it did me) into a very childlike state, and if you are not mentally stable or the environment is bad, it can turn into a nightmare experience that we referred to as a bad trip, or "flipping out".
LSD is on a certain level anti-addictive. First of all, if you take it less than 12 days apart, it will lose most of its effect. Second, the experience is so profound that most people would not want to use it again anytime soon. For me however, it marked the beginning of a lifestyle of progressively frequent drug use, with LSD and other hallucinogens at the top of my list. As a single parent, my dad was not able to police me as he probably would have otherwise. It was far too easy for me to have people over the house to trip out and get high anytime. I was also a pretty smart kid, so that unlike many of my friends, my schoolwork was not being affected at all by these drugs. In fact, I remember scoring a 94 on my Physics regents exam, which I completed in 1/3 the allotted time, after having used LSD for the first time just 2 nights before. But the lines between fantasy and reality were beginning to blur in my life. The effects of LSD lend themselves quite well to spiritual openness and curiosity. Around that time, a band called the Moody Blues became my favorite group. With their great blend of Rock and Orchestral music, and lyrics that always hinted at the greater realities of God, Love, and Hope, I was becoming a very philosophical kid.
Can't stop looking...
OMG! This is unreal!
Kids, if you ever needed a reason NOT to do drugs...

[Oliver]

Can't stop looking...
OMG! This is unreal!
Kids, if you ever needed a reason NOT to do drugs...


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107470e9fe2c0734.gif

[MarkyX]

This is borderline pathetic.

He actually uses the FDR, the same FDR found in the crash site, to prove the plane was not in the Pentagon. He then refuses to address the generator and light pole, or the majority of the witnesses that saw a plane. Or his own witnesses for that matter.

[DGM]

This is borderline pathetic.

He actually uses the FDR, the same FDR found in the crash site, to prove the plane was not in the Pentagon. He then refuses to address the generator and light pole, or the majority of the witnesses that saw a plane. Or his own witnesses for that matter.
The comment that had me scratching my head was the flying within a foot of the ground. Not even the "Blue Angels" can do that? I thought every pilot did that when they land!

[dudalb]

OMG, just when you think it couldn't possibly get worse, it does (http://pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_pp7.htm), and it it keeps on worsening (http://pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_buny.htm)...

THE HORROR! THE HORROR!

[leftysergeant]

I'm still waiting for an explanation of how explsoive charges could have been placed to do the damage done inside the building.

[Oliver]

I'm still waiting for an explanation of how explsoive charges could have been placed to do the damage done inside the building.


And most importantly .... How the Explosion WITHIN
the Pentagon was able to move the Power-Generator
TOWARDS the Building.

http://911review.org/_webimages/pentagongenerator/a22-DSC_0435-1p.JPG

[Tbone]

Well, that was a waste of my time. Obviously, this not a show that presses you to prove anything, just gives people not important enough to appear in front of a large audience a space to safely rant under the guise of an interview. Not a bad thing, mind you, but when presenting a topic like that, it needs a more grilling format.

[boloboffin]

OMG.. Craig Ranke is Peter Pan (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_ppx2.htm)?

OMG. That's who Craig reminded me of. Oh, mercy.

That's what happened to the flyover plane. It turned at the star second to the right, and flew straight on till morning.

ETA: The real Peter Pan is harmless and quite creative. He really lets his freak flag fly, but as far as I can see, he's not harming a single soul by doing so. Y'all, don't be mean.

[A W Smith]

OMG. That's who Craig reminded me of. Oh, mercy.

That's what happened to the flyover plane. It turned at the star second to the right, and flew straight on till morning.

ETA: The real Peter Pan is harmless and quite creative. He really lets his freak flag fly, but as far as I can see, he's not harming a single soul by doing so. Y'all, don't be mean.


He is harmless, Just as long as he doesn't go off on airport security when they try to take that knife (http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/Imagez/whiteshirt.jpg)away from him. Whats he need a knife in his belt for anyway? Is Tampa Fla a bad neighborhood?

[Redtail]

Waaaait a minute! After asking calc if he was 14 due to calc posting the gif with lyte in it and typing "hey hey we're the monkeys!" TC drops this gem. I'm referring more to the mentallity behind someone who makes a gif to mock someone doing something they're not : Who was it that had a gif of gravy in a scene from Anchorman? Oh yeah it was Dylan!

[LashL]

This is borderline pathetic.


At first, I read that as "borderline psychotic" and found myself almost concurring.

Then I reread it correctly as "borderline pathetic" and found myself disagreeing - it crossed way past the borderline of pathetic.

What a complete and utter embarrassment Ranke must be to his parents. I feel sorry for them, and I don't even know them.

[1337m4n]

Guys, remember when we asked Lyte if he had contacted any media about his groundbreaking smoking-gun proof? And he said "Yes" but he wouldn't tell us WHICH media organizations?

Well, it looks like this was it. TheStream.tv. An "online television network". That maybe 100 people watch.

Way to go, Lyte!

[LashL]

Guys, remember when we asked Lyte if he had contacted any media about his groundbreaking smoking-gun proof? And he said "Yes" but he wouldn't tell us WHICH media organizations?

Well, it looks like this was it. TheStream.tv. An "online television network". That maybe 100 people watch.

Way to go, Lyte!

And if I heard it correctly at the beginning of this particular little soundbite jaunt into lunacy, it seems that this was only the 4th episode of the 'show,' and that the host is a comedian. Oy vey.

[Arus808]

omg. that is craig ranke? why does he look older than the age he posts in his myspace profile (26)? what's with these truthers? looking older than their real age? next to him and alex jones, I must look like jail bait.

[Calcas]

Waaaait a minute! After asking calc if he was 14 due to calc posting the gif with lyte in it and typing "hey hey we're the monkeys!" TC drops this gem.

You can't tell me he's not a double of Peter Tork of the Monkees circa 1966.

BTW, didn't hair like that go out in 1976?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/8886470d8e0dad956.gif

http://www.pcshock.com/BoybandEmporium/Monkees/Images/peter00.jpg

[chillzero]

OK folks. Please remember that although suspended, Lyte Trip is still a member and therefore may have his account reactivated at some future point. Please keep the focus of the thread on the topic of the program, and refrain from personal attacks and ridicule.

[Hyperviolet]

Craig Ranke
On the possibility of the plane being shotdown before the Pentagon:

Well, nobody saw that, no.1. We talked to everybody in the area, and, uh, so nobody saw such a thing. So there is no reason to believe that this happened. Just as, we've determined there is no reason to believe a missile hit the building, either. So a lot of the speculation and theories out there: There is no evidence for! And we are hear to say that.

Bizarre.
If only he applied the same line of thinking to his theory, The Flyover. Which, of course, no one saw.

[Oliver]

Craig Ranke
On the possibility of the plane being shotdown before the Pentagon:

Bizarre.
If only he applied the same line of thinking to his theory, The Flyover. Which, of course, no one saw.



Believe it or not - I have compassion for them. They took the
"Wrong exit" on the highway of reason and I hope they don't
ruin their lives if they find back to the World the rest of civilization
is living in...

[Hyperviolet]

Believe it or not - I have compassion for them. They took the
"Wrong exit" on the highway of reason and I hope they don't
ruin their lives if they find back to the World the rest of civilization
is living in...

I can understand that, Oliver.
With certain truthers i feel the same way.
Lyte Trip, with his know-all attitude, however, is not one of them.

[AMTMAN]

I nearly feel out of my chair when he said the official story is a lie and it was all an inside job. This coming from the same guy who got caught in lie along with Rob B.

< http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=85833 >

< http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/search?q=AIRFONES >

[Oliver]

I can understand that, Oliver.
With certain truthers i feel the same way.
Lyte Trip, with his know-all attitude, however, is not one of them.


I don't know Lyte very well - but he's certainly too young
to throw himself in front of a train for a "youthful transgression"....

[DGM]

I nearly feel out of my chair when he said the official story is a lie and it was all an inside job. This coming from the same guy who got caught in lie along with Rob B.

< http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=85833 >

< http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/search?q=AIRFONES >
It's OK for a "truther" to lie for the good of the movement.:rolleyes:

[AMTMAN]

I can understand that, Oliver.
With certain truthers i feel the same way.
Lyte Trip, with his know-all attitude, however, is not one of them.

I'll second that. Just look at the way he goes after people who disagree with him in the truther community.

[Oliver]

I'll second that. Just look at the way he goes after people who disagree with him in the truther community.


I agree - but this is what we call a "Jugendsünde" (Youth-Sin), nothing
that should be taken too seriously....

[Jonnyclueless]

Believe it or not - I have compassion for them. They took the
"Wrong exit" on the highway of reason and I hope they don't
ruin their lives if they find back to the World the rest of civilization
is living in...

I have no problem with them ruining their lives. I think it beneficial to society that they not find their way back. It's crowded enough as it is. Think of it as Darwinism of reasoning. :-)

[Bobert]

Just to clarify a point here..
Johnny Dam is a loser comedian that used to work at the same company as Craig.
He was regarded as a joke and NO ONE thought he was funny as a comedian.
It seems Craig is so desperate for attention that he had to sink to rock bottom and join Johnny Dam.
LOL!!!

[A W Smith]

Just to clarify a point here..
Johnny Dam is a loser comedian that used to work at the same company as Craig.
He was regarded as a joke and NO ONE thought he was funny as a comedian.
It seems Craig is so desperate for attention that he had to sink to rock bottom and join Johnny Dam.
LOL!!!


So there are Three loser comedians in the movement. Dam, O'Donnel and Hordon,

[Bobert]

LOL!
Soft Teddy Bear

Geez someone please put a tent on that circus!

[CptColumbo]

So there are Three loser comedians in the movement. Dam, O'Donnel and Hordon,I've only heard of one of those three.

[A W Smith]

I've only heard of one of those three.


Robin Hordon (http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/05/02/18408428.php?show_comments=1)
After leaving the FAA, he spent 12 years in the field of comedy, ending up as artistic coordinator for "Catch A Rising Star" in Cambridge, MA.

Rosie ODonnell (http://www.starpulse.com/Actresses/ODonnell,_Rosie/Biography/)

Johnny Dam (http://www.myspace.com/JohnnyDam)