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BenBurch
10th October 2007, 10:31 PM
They are worse than 4 year old children!

You have to explain everything in small words, they find an objection however illogical to anything you tell them, they change the subject when cornered, you can tell them to read something and they won't be able to understand it, and they have imaginary friends.

:eye-poppi

CptColumbo
10th October 2007, 10:41 PM
They are worse than 4 year old children!

You have to explain everything in small words, they find an objection however illogical to anything you tell them, they change the subject when cornered, you can tell them to read something and they won't be able to understand it, and they have imaginary friends.

:eye-poppiAt least they're potty trained, I assume.

The Doc
10th October 2007, 11:00 PM
At least they're potty trained, I assume.

Well the crap comes out of their mouths at the most inappropriate of times, so I guess they aren't.

Reality Believer
10th October 2007, 11:03 PM
"Illegitimi non carborundum" ;)

R.Mackey
10th October 2007, 11:42 PM
That is basically their plan.

My answer has always been to redefine the battlefield. I accept that the Truth Movement will probably never change, and instead look for opportunities to educate myself and everybody else reading. They come up with the same nonsense month after month, but copy 'n paste is good enough after a while.

Zlaya
11th October 2007, 04:22 AM
here's another standard "James Randy Educational Forum" post in conspiracy section.

the rest of this forum is a well laid our research resource, but this god forsaken conspiracy section is just bunch of girls posting such unsubstantiated posts like this one.

You know who else wears people down? someone who posts on this forum, pushes good posts away into the memory hole, hogs down server resources, and collects posting points by saying things like "you know what LCF forum troooooofers said?", and "you know what these nutty troooooofers are like"....

get a life man, help the society by not posting this garbage, please!

timhau
11th October 2007, 04:29 AM
Thank you for that demonstration.

Firestone
11th October 2007, 04:32 AM
... but this god forsaken conspiracy section is just bunch of girls posting ...Please don't be so harsh on the male JREFers.
Some of them are good debunkers too.

T.A.M.
11th October 2007, 05:17 AM
They are worse than 4 year old children!

You have to explain everything in small words, they find an objection however illogical to anything you tell them, they change the subject when cornered, you can tell them to read something and they won't be able to understand it, and they have imaginary friends.

:eye-poppi

Absolutely, myself and others call it DFS (Debunker Fatigue Syndrome). What you are likely experiencing is just a "flare up". Over the last 15-16 months that I personally have been at this I have had such flare ups (complete with rant, throwing hands in air, threatening to give up debunking) about 5-6 times. Usually there are a few posters around here who make enough sense to make you realize that what you are doing by debunking is worth it, and that to give up is to let them win...so you persevere. Sometimes I will take a break for a day or two, with little or no posting on the topic.

The usual signs of this are:

1. Increased Intolerance for seemingly innocent posters claiming to be "just asking questions".
2. Increased levels of insulting or diminutive comments towards the "truthers (twoofers, da twoof, 9/11 liars, or worse).
3. A need to Rant about a topic that would normally make you chuckle.

There are more signs, but I am off to work.

TAM:)

JimBenArm
11th October 2007, 05:57 AM
here's another standard "James Randy Educational Forum" post in conspiracy section.

the rest of this forum is a well laid our research resource, but this god forsaken conspiracy section is just bunch of girls posting such unsubstantiated posts like this one.

You know who else wears people down? someone who posts on this forum, pushes good posts away into the memory hole, hogs down server resources, and collects posting points by saying things like "you know what LCF forum troooooofers said?", and "you know what these nutty troooooofers are like"....

get a life man, help the society by not posting this garbage, please!
(bolding mine)
Hey, Z-man! What's with the playground insults? You really have a problem with women, don't you?
I'd love to see you face-to-face with either my wife or my three daughters. Then you might have to re-think "girl" as being some kind of insult! Not that you're "man" enough! (NARF!)

8den
11th October 2007, 06:01 AM
The worst part is when someone posts up the same tired worn out bull[rule10] thats been torn apart and shredded a dozen times on this forum, as if they're saying something new.

ie

"OMG Building 7 freefall speed INSIDE JOB!!!!"

It's maddening and depressing.

Ben, search under Malcolm Kirkman, and MJD for the sheer willpower of members of this forum arguing with idiots. The MJD will literally stagger you with the term, what was it, "Propitious for policy" going on for fecking pages.

I dislike the term "debunker" But Debunker fatigue, is a syndrome, particularly if you take the argument to them, and go to CT forums, debunking the same crap, being regurgitated by five or six people is maddening, I'm on the loose change forum arguing with someone who claims Abu Hamas is a MI6 operative, despite the fact that Hamas is serving 7 years in a british prison. :eye-poppi

Dave Rogers
11th October 2007, 06:20 AM
Ben, search under Malcolm Kirkman, and MJD for the sheer willpower of members of this forum arguing with idiots. The MJD will literally stagger you with the term, what was it, "Prosperities for policy" going on for fecking pages.

I'm sure there are people on this forum who now suffer from a nervous tic whenever they see or hear the word "propitious". I know I do.

Dave

GT/CS
11th October 2007, 06:23 AM
here's another standard "James Randy Educational Forum" post in conspiracy section.

the rest of this forum is a well laid our research resource, but this god forsaken conspiracy section is just bunch of girls posting such unsubstantiated posts like this one.

You know who else wears people down? someone who posts on this forum, pushes good posts away into the memory hole, hogs down server resources, and collects posting points by saying things like "you know what LCF forum troooooofers said?", and "you know what these nutty troooooofers are like"....

get a life man, help the society by not posting this garbage, please!

What in the world are posting points?

8den
11th October 2007, 06:24 AM
I'm sure there are people on this forum who now suffer from a nervous tic whenever they see or hear the word "propitious". I know I do.

Dave

Arse thank you for exposing my lazy spell checking.

SpaceMonkeyZero
11th October 2007, 06:25 AM
get a life man, help the society by not posting this garbage, please!

You first.:p

SpaceMonkeyZero
11th October 2007, 06:26 AM
What in the world are posting points?

Obviously according to Zlaya and friends, we here at the NWO can trade these posting points for little boys at Bohemian Grove while we assemble to plan the next 9/11.

Disbelief
11th October 2007, 06:57 AM
They are worse than 4 year old children!

You have to explain everything in small words, they find an objection however illogical to anything you tell them, they change the subject when cornered, you can tell them to read something and they won't be able to understand it, and they have imaginary friends.

:eye-poppi

What I find worse is when you are discussing 9/11 with someone who is obvoipusly intelligent, yet they buy into the conspiracy crap. Like R. Mackey had posted awhile back, if these people would put there minds and bodies to a good cause, they might actually change their lives (and maybe help others in the process).

timhau
11th October 2007, 07:20 AM
Obviously according to Zlaya and friends, we here at the NWO can trade these posting points for little boys at Bohemian Grove while we assemble to plan the next 9/11.

Yes, they're our own trading tender, our Skeptibucks. We print them on our own computers.

Drudgewire
11th October 2007, 07:25 AM
the rest of this forum is a well laid our research resource, but this god forsaken conspiracy section is just bunch of girls posting such unsubstantiated posts like this one.
Hehe, another use of "girls" as an insult by Zlaya.

Maybe one day you'll actually touch one and your opinion will change. :p

JimBenArm
11th October 2007, 07:37 AM
Hehe, another use of "girls" as an insult by Zlaya.

Maybe one day you'll actually touch one and your opinion will change. :p
Not as long as he believes they have cooties!

Cuddles
11th October 2007, 07:39 AM
What in the world are posting points?

I'm not sure, but assuming no-one else is either, I hereby declare myself the winner. Hooray.:)

Dave Rogers
11th October 2007, 07:44 AM
Arse thank you for exposing my lazy spell checking.

At the risk of exposing your lazy punctuation, I could have wished for a full stop after the first word. A comma would have just made things worse, though.

Dave

buka001
11th October 2007, 08:23 AM
I engaged a whole bunch of troofers on Spooked911's blog. The topic of discussion was their theory of Nukes demolishing WTC.

It honestly felt like I had disturbed a hornets nest. Verbally abused by so called physicists. Accused of complicity in mass murder. Accused me of lying about where I come from. Accuse me of all sorts of heinious acts.

Although it was fun to see how angry they get when I provide proof after proof of how faulted their nuke theory is. Eventually they just fell down to one post -

""My interest here is to look at what happened""

well then do so.
because what NIST said happened does not fit the with videos of what happened nor with photos of the debris. nor was the 911 commission's stupid pancake explanation possible in only 10 seconds - if at all.

like that guy said before, it doesn't matter if there was EMP or not.
it doesn't matter if it was nuclear demo or death rays from above or even the hand of god squashing it flat.
all that matters first is that NIST and the 911 commission and purdue obviously lied.
a case has been filed against NIST by real scientists.
and only a shill would pretend to be so blind.

there is no truth movement.

All they can resort to is NIST lied because videos and photo's "prove" so. And flat out lies that "REAL" scientists are taking legal action with NIST.

I have decided to leave it there. Not gonna bother anymore asking these guys on this blog for proof that NIST lied. Proof that real scientists are sueing NIST. Or why after 6 years no one has published a peer reviewed study, refuting all of NIST's claims.

BenBurch
11th October 2007, 08:32 AM
... Or why after 6 years no one has published a peer reviewed study, refuting all of NIST's claims.

They actually claim that their collection of theologists and agronomists are peer review!

SpaceMonkeyZero
11th October 2007, 08:34 AM
I have decided to leave it there. Not gonna bother anymore asking these guys on this blog for proof that NIST lied. Proof that real scientists are sueing NIST. Or why after 6 years no one has published a peer reviewed study, refuting all of NIST's claims.

I bet they're patting themselves on the back thinking they won too. It's a shame.

There are certain people you just can't argue with. Those without the basic mental ability, and fundamentalists.

16.5
11th October 2007, 08:53 AM
"I engaged a whole bunch of troofers on Spooked911's blog. The topic of discussion was their theory of Nukes demolishing WTC."

Debate them? Hell, I say encourage them! It is going to the Loosers v. Space Beams v. Nukes, battling one another for the decreasing Twoof bucks as they get more and more marginalized and divorced from reality. Their whole "movement" is collapsing at free fall speed, and I could not be more delighted.

Brainster
11th October 2007, 11:49 AM
They are worse than 4 year old children!

You have to explain everything in small words, they find an objection however illogical to anything you tell them, they change the subject when cornered, you can tell them to read something and they won't be able to understand it, and they have imaginary friends.

:eye-poppi

Don't expect to win them over, just keep swatting their arguments out of the ballpark. It's not the Troofer you want to convince, it's the audience. There are very few MikeyMetzes out there who can be deprogrammed from the 9-11 Conspiracy Cult.

CptColumbo
11th October 2007, 02:01 PM
Hehe, another use of "girls" as an insult by Zlaya.

Maybe one day you'll actually touch one and your opinion will change. :pEither he/she is a High School PE teacher and/or is mentally 12 years-old.