Judy Woo-Woo going to court.

[leftysergeant]

Dusty Judy is filing a suit to get her theories investigated. This should be fun to watch.

http://www.nineeeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=91170

[LashL]

The link isn't working for me.

[mortimer]

One too many E's

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=91170

[Firestone]

One "e" too much in the link.

This one (http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=91170) should work.

ETA: mortimer, great minds ... ;)

[R.Mackey]

From the link:

“NIST was hanging out with the wrong crowd,” according to Dr. Wood. “Apparently the people hired to do the work of figuring out how the Twin Towers disappeared convinced NIST to focus on something else. NIST admitted to me in writing that it deliberately did not investigate the actual unraveling of the WTC.” In its letter of July 27, 2007, to Wood NIST acknowledged, “NIST only investigated the factors leading to the initiation of the collapses of the WTC towers, not the collapses themselves.”

Reading comprehension problems are not grounds for a lawsuit. Not much more to be said.

[Disbelief]

I like this line:


Dr. Wood holds degrees in Civil Engineering, Engineering Mechanics, and Materials Engineering Science. Fetzer added, “She is a former assistant professor in the Department of Mechanical Engineering at Clemson University and is arguably the best qualified 9/11 researcher in the world. I know of no one else whose qualifications come close to matching hers.”

Uncle Fester must not know many people (sane ones anyway).

[dudalb]

Maybe the Truth movement is a conspriacy to create work for idle lawyers.
But I am sure that this will have as much success as the other Truther lawsuit.

[LashL]

One too many E's

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=91170

One "e" too much in the link.

This one (http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=91170) should work.

ETA: mortimer, great minds ... ;)

Thank you.

Time only for a quick glance as I have to be in court shortly, but it appears to be very similar to Morgan Reynolds' Qui Tam complaint. In fact, the two of them are identical in some regards. There is no doubt in my mind that both will fail miserably.

[leftysergeant]

Maybe traffic on twoofer sites will taper off as the agitators have to pawn their computers to pay court costs when their suits are dismissed as frivolous.

[T.A.M.]

Thank you.

Time only for a quick glance as I have to be in court shortly, but it appears to be very similar to Morgan Reynolds' Qui Tam complaint. In fact, the two of them are identical in some regards. There is no doubt in my mind that both will fail miserably.

Why are they always blaming me...I do not even live in the USA...lol

TAM:)

[Mr. Skinny]

I like this line:



Uncle Fester must not know many people (sane ones anyway).
Well, he did qualify it by saying "arguably the best...".

[Mr. Skinny]

I'd absolutely love to see her theory for a DEW. Anyone know if she's proposed one?

Space based? Land Based? On an aircraft?

[CHF]

How many twoofers actually support Judy Wood?

I've only met one: Doug Plumb of AE911.

[~enigma~]

I'd absolutely love to see her theory for a DEW. Anyone know if she's proposed one?

Space based? Land Based? On an aircraft?
One if by land, two if by space...forgive me but it had to be said :)

[mortimer]

How many twoofers actually support Judy Wood?

I've only met one: Doug Plumb of AE911.

Ace Baker (Truthseeker1234)...

[Mr. Skinny]

One if by land, two if by space...forgive me but it had to be said :)
That does it, ~enigma~. Welcome to ignore!! :D

[Disbelief]

Well, he did qualify it by saying "arguably the best...".

But since it's Fetzer and there really is no arguing with him, it really isn't a qualifier.

[rcronk]

Why can't we put Judy in a debate with first responders, structural engineers, and the REAL experts and get this settled once and for all. Stomp it out completely. I'm so tired of hearing the twooferz blather on and on and the only time they debate is to non-experts and people who weren't there on 9/11. I'd like to see them get squished by truth and go away forever... rqiwdpegnewighn0e q8rg0qrwe] 8ghrqwei Oh - sorry, I fell asleep at the keyboard - I was dreaming...

[Slayhamlet]

This might prove to be amusing.

Or depressing; not sure which yet.

[Mr. Skinny]

But since it's Fetzer and there really is no arguing with him, it really isn't a qualifier.
You JREFers have an excuse for everything!

Can't you for once imagine that Dr. Fetzer would welcome your argument?

Typical negative OCTer response.
















:)

[16.5]

Ignoring, just for a moment that Wood/Fetzer's theories are pathetic:

The False Claims Act prohibits qui tam cases "based upon the public disclosure of allegations" unless the "person bringing the action is an original source of the information." 31 U.S.C. § 3730(e)(4). An "original source," in turn, "means an individual who has direct and independent knowledge of the information on which the allegations are based" and who "voluntarily provided [that] information to the Government before filing." Id.

Dr. Judy Wood, I'd like to introduce you to Fail; Fail, Dr. Judy Wood

[dudalb]

Ignoring, just for a moment that Wood/Fetzer's theories are pathetic:

The False Claims Act prohibits qui tam cases "based upon the public disclosure of allegations" unless the "person bringing the action is an original source of the information." 31 U.S.C. § 3730(e)(4). An "original source," in turn, "means an individual who has direct and independent knowledge of the information on which the allegations are based" and who "voluntarily provided [that] information to the Government before filing." Id.

Dr. Judy Wood, I'd like to introduce you to Fail; Fail, Dr. Judy Wood

Sorry to interupt,but Judy and Mr Fail have been on a first name basis for a long time.

[Viper Daimao]

Dr. Judy Wood, I'd like to introduce you to Fail; Fail, Dr. Judy Wood

Fail, why don't you go have a seat over there beside Judy's other friend, Delusion.

[Slayhamlet]

why don't you go have a seat over there beside delusion.

:confused:

[16.5]

Fail, why don't you go have a seat over there beside Judy's other friend, Delusion.

and Mohammet...Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton.

Grab a seat and make yourselves at home.

Don't be shy about helping yourselves
to Dr. Judy punch and Fetzer's coo coo cookies.

[Dr Adequate]

NIST admitted to me in writing that it deliberately did not investigate the actual unraveling of the WTC.” In its letter of July 27, 2007, to Wood NIST acknowledged, “NIST only investigated the factors leading to the initiation of the collapses of the WTC towers, not the collapses themselves.” Has anyone else noticed the way that woos use the word "admit"? It's quite distinctive.

Oh, they admitted it to you, did they? And in writing, too? Golly gosh, how did you exact that confession from them, Judy?

You must really have them on the ropes. After all your tireless, fearless investigation, you've finally got them to admit that their report says exactly what their report says that their report says.

---

You get it a lot with creationists, too.

[tacodaemon]

Can't wait to see the legal filings stipulating the new definitions of "Shaving Cream, Alka-Seltzer, Fuzzballs, Fuzzy Bombs, Dirt Balls, Cheeetos, Tree Leaves, Nano-Dust, Donuts, Attack Clouds, Poofing, and Wheatchex"

[tacodaemon]

Has anyone else noticed the way that woos use the word "admit"? It's quite distinctive.


So you admit that you think Dr. Judy Wood is a "quite distinctive" woman, do you??

[Jonnyclueless]

Maybe traffic on twoofer sites will taper off as the agitators have to pawn their computers to pay court costs when their suits are dismissed as frivolous.

And maybe the cockroach population will die out too...

[ConspiRaider]

Why are they always blaming me...I do not even live in the USA...lol

TAM:)
Oh? You wouldn't be doth protesting too much, youthinks? Me?

Hey Doc, if you're so innocent, just where do you think the DEW line is? Huh, smart guy?

[ConspiRaider]

I'd absolutely love to see her theory for a DEW. Anyone know if she's proposed one?

Space based? Land Based? On an aircraft?
All I can remember is something about pennies on a windowsill. Got me. I was so moved I enrolled her in the Wheat Chex of the Month Club (customer must provide banana).

[Magenta]

I'd absolutely love to see her theory for a DEW. Anyone know if she's proposed one?

Space based? Land Based? On an aircraft?


Space based? Hey, wasn't that in Independence Day? The DEWs were probably reverse-engineered from reclaimed UFO technology. It's all starting to make sense now…

[A W Smith]

Shes just going to plead insanity.:)

oh while we are at it This belongs (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/243702/how_to_make_foil/)in any judy wood thread

[LashL]

Ignoring, just for a moment that Wood/Fetzer's theories are pathetic:

The False Claims Act prohibits qui tam cases "based upon the public disclosure of allegations" unless the "person bringing the action is an original source of the information." 31 U.S.C. § 3730(e)(4). An "original source," in turn, "means an individual who has direct and independent knowledge of the information on which the allegations are based" and who "voluntarily provided [that] information to the Government before filing." Id.

Dr. Judy Wood, I'd like to introduce you to Fail; Fail, Dr. Judy Wood

The way I read the sections you are referring to, I do not see how they outright preclude Judy Wood's qui tam complaint. Title 31, Section 3730 prohibits such claims only if they are "based upon the public disclosure of allegations or transactions in a criminal, civil, or administrative hearing, in a congressional, administrative, or Government Accounting Office report, hearing, audit, or investigation, or from the news media, unless the action is brought by the Attorney General or the person bringing the action is an original source of the information."

It is not obvious to me that Wood's complaint is "based upon" the "public disclosure of allegations" made in any of the itemized list bolded above. All three of those elements would have to satisfied for the section to bar the claim outright. I haven't looked at the case law yet, mind you, and I am saying this strictly as a matter of statutory interpretation, but at first blush, I do not see how that Title and Section preclude the complaint on its face. It seems to me that the judicial interpretation of "based upon", "public disclosure" and of the bolded items would dictate whether or not the claim is barred, and I suspect that the case law on these points may not be entirely settled. I welcome your further input and thoughts on this, and I will look further into it as well.

Why are they always blaming me...I do not even live in the USA...lol

TAM:)

It's South Park's fault! ("Blame Canada!")

Has anyone else noticed the way that woos use the word "admit"? It's quite distinctive.

Oh, they admitted it to you, did they? And in writing, too? Golly gosh, how did you exact that confession from them, Judy?

You must really have them on the ropes. After all your tireless, fearless investigation, you've finally got them to admit that their report says exactly what their report says that their report says.

Yes, I've noticed that, too. Alex Jones does it an awful lot, constantly claiming, "it's admitted", or "they've admitted it", and his loyal sheeple repeat it like a mantra. Oddly, while so many of them cannot grasp the simple concepts of similes or metaphors, they sure do grasp the different connotations of the words "admitted" and the (more accurate) "reported" or "said".

Can't wait to see the legal filings stipulating the new definitions of "Shaving Cream, Alka-Seltzer, Fuzzballs, Fuzzy Bombs, Dirt Balls, Cheeetos, Tree Leaves, Nano-Dust, Donuts, Attack Clouds, Poofing, and Wheatchex"

Indeed! :dl:

[CptColumbo]

The case will begin in 40,000 Klunkity-Klunks?

[Travis]

A giant can of dust would make the perfect birthday present for Judy don't you think?

[leftysergeant]

Okay, the judge need not tie his brain into too many knots to come to a conclusion she has standing to bring a suit.

Merit is quite another matter.

I don't see it here.

[procrastinate maybe]

How many twoofers actually support Judy Wood?

I've only met one: Doug Plumb of AE911.

A handful of Twoofers at DU support her theory too, but they are outnumbered by Controlled Demolition theory proponents.

[Corsair 115]

I'd absolutely love to see her theory for a DEW. Anyone know if she's proposed one?When I see "DEW" the first thing that pops into my mind is "Distant Early Warning ("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEW).

A handful of Twoofers at DU support her theory too...When I see "DU" the first thing that pops into my mind is Depleted Uranium.

I really need to get used to the acronyms typically used in the CT world... :D

[BenBurch]

When I see "DEW" the first thing that pops into my mind is "Distant Early Warning ("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEW).

When I see "DU" the first thing that pops into my mind is Depleted Uranium.

I really need to get used to the acronyms typically used in the CT world... :D

Well, DU isn't strictly a Twoofer place. In fact the 911 topic is sort of a ghetto created so that the nutjobs would leave the rest of the board alone, and has become the place ALL CTer pap gets moved by moderators. DU has other problems though, in that it is rampant with trolls and bullies and the administrators seem to be uninterested in having civility there.

[Plantfoam]

Why are they always blaming me...I do not even live in the USA...lol

TAM:)

The Canadian media helped cover up in the 9/11 hologram plane plot, so you can't run away from your responsibility. Wake up! Bush and Canada did 9/11!!!11

GL answering,
plantfoam

[LashL]

<snip>Merit is quite another matter.

I don't see it here.

Agreed. In my view, it is frivolous, vexatious and an abuse of the court process.

[rwguinn]

When I see "DEW" the first thing that pops into my mind is "Distant Early Warning (http://%22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEW).

When I see "DU" the first thing that pops into my mind is Depleted Uranium.

I really need to get used to the acronyms typically used in the CT world... :D
s' Ok. I keep thinking "Why do a bunch of waterfowl conservationists agree with such a fruitcake?"








(DU= Ducks Unlimited---which is a US/Canada/Mexico group of duck hunters who have banded together...for...habita...hmmmmm...
....OMG! 1111! NWO! Amerios! We been had!

[cludgie]

Its always fun to see the nutters arguing amongst themselves about the merits of Judy...

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11609

And its a damn good laugh to read the terms and conditions if, god forbid, you ever wanted to participate on that site...

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/profile.php?mode=register

[leftysergeant]

Are you suggesting that they are a bit full of themselves?

[JimBenArm]

Are you suggesting that they are a bit full of themselves?
Well, they're full o' sumptin...

[cludgie]

Are you suggesting that they are a bit full of themselves?

Certainly full of something... ;)

Its more the well-worn contradiction that troofers claim to be saving the world from some oppressive regime yet the nub of the T&C's to sign up to their board is 'disagree with us, no matter how mad we are, and you will be banned or ushered into a dark corner of the board'. Bless 'em.

And its terribly sweet that they still haven't twigged the fundamental flaw in their recent challenge to Popular Mechanics that they can somehow prove a falling object always follows the path of least resistance.

[T.A.M.]

I am sure the "no-planers" Woods et al, will go freaking bonkers over this article...lol

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21253268/

seriously though, you know the will cherry pick out, the following...


"I think we have found the killer application that we have been looking for to tie everything together that we're doing in space,"

TAM:)