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shemp
8th September 2003, 11:25 AM
I'll reproduce them here, as given by Mr. Randi in this week's commentary:
1. I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Here we have this blatant threat again: Do this or I'll kill you.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
So how many of us have coveted our neighbor's ass, or worse?
I've broken all but number 6. I'm on the Highway to Hell!
roger
8th September 2003, 11:28 AM
My neighbor has a very nice one.
DrChinese
8th September 2003, 11:31 AM
Since I am not religious, I did not mark mself as having broken the first two. :D
Skeptical Greg
8th September 2003, 11:32 AM
What if you just helped yourself, and skipped the ' coveting ' part ?
Tricky
8th September 2003, 11:37 AM
Well, I checked "kill" too, since it didn't specify killing humans.
shemp
8th September 2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Tricky
Well, I checked "kill" too, since it didn't specify killing humans.
If you think of it that way, then "god" wants us all to starve to death.
arcticpenguin
8th September 2003, 11:45 AM
I switched from Catholicism to atheism. Since no other god was involved, I really haven't broken the first one, have I?
This version is very specifically worded that the sabbath should be on the 7th day, i.e. Saturday. I have worked on Saturdays before.
I "take the name of the lord in vain", once in a while, not too often.
I'd say I'm in pretty good compliance for someone who doesn't give a hoot.
diddidit
8th September 2003, 11:49 AM
1. Whatever. I didn't count this one.
2. Not sure, but I want to up my count.
3. Duh.
4. Hey, weekends are short as it is.
5. I like my 'rents.
6. My windshield is a slaughterhouse.
7. Ain't fooled around on the wife.
8. No comment...
9. Not this one, even for the creepy neighbors.
10. Not currently, but, damn, we've had some highly covetable neighbors!
6/10. I'll keep trying...
Skeptical Greg
8th September 2003, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by arcticpenguin
I'd say I'm in pretty good compliance for someone who doesn't give a hoot.
As well we might expect from any Penguin worth his salt...
What do you call that noise you make anyway? I keep hearing that anoying sound made by the Penguin in the T.V. " Bat Man " series....
c4ts
8th September 2003, 12:26 PM
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0278/0278_01.asp
Sundog
8th September 2003, 12:29 PM
Point of order. Is it still adultery if she helps?
Skeptical Greg
8th September 2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Sundog
Point of order. Is it still adultery if she helps?
I don't know if this helps, but Adultry in the Old testament had to do with with knowing where the kid came from and nothing to do with cheating on your spouse, as is commonly inferred today.
Might be a good topic for a new discussion..
Sundog
8th September 2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes
I don't know if this helps, but Adultry in the Old testament had to do with with knowing where the kid came from and nothing to do with cheating on your spouse, as is commonly inferred today.
Might be a good topic for a new discussion..
Thanks! Whew, do I feel better. Wouldn't want to be an adulterer.
Why don't they call child molesters childerers?
roger
8th September 2003, 01:19 PM
I aspire to break them all.
That's gotta count for something.
Skeptical Greg
8th September 2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Sundog
Thanks! Whew, do I feel better. Wouldn't want to be an adulterer.
Don't get too excited.. I haven't cleared you yet.. I can't do that without knowing the exact circumstances..
It is possible ( in the context of my statement above, regarding what adultry meant in the OT ) for a married man to have sex outside of his marriage, and not be committing adultry...
Sundog
8th September 2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes
Don't get too excited.. I haven't cleared you yet.. I can't do that without knowing the exact circumstances..
No can do. I am in Texas, after all, and most of the circumstances probably have a law about them somewhere.
It is possible ( in the context of my statement above, regarding what adultry meant in the OT ) for a married man to have sex outside of his marriage, and not be committing adultry...
Well, I know that all the little Sundogs and Sundoggettes in the world are under my own roof, so I think I'm OK.
So technically, I can sleep with my neighbor's wife as long as I don't want to. This religion stuff is confusing.
Skeptical Greg
8th September 2003, 01:46 PM
Here is a pretty good run down of what I was referring to..
Is biblical adultery the same as adultery today? (http://www.rockinauburn.com/columns/adultery.html)
You decide..
Sundog
8th September 2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes
Here is a pretty good run down of what I was referring to..
Is biblical adultery the same as adultery today? (http://www.rockinauburn.com/columns/adultery.html)
You decide..
You've researched this thoroughly, I see. :D :p
Yahweh
8th September 2003, 03:44 PM
1. I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
As Mr. Randi stated in his commentary, wouldnt this be imposing a restriction on the practice of free religion? Oh wait, I'm an atheist, I have no gods therefore I cannot logically have any gods before the God.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Uh-oh... My very religious sister-in-law has a crucifix hanging in her car where a pair of fuzzy dice should be. But fortunately, I havent broken this law myself so I'm all good... wait, what about my Buddy Christ doll. Commandment 2 broken.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
GOD DAMMIT! JESUS F*NKING CHRIST! Command 3 just broken.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
My Sundays are very busy. I have to grade papers, eat food, kill the environment... yeah, I've broken that one.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Here we have this blatant threat again: Do this or I'll kill you.
F**k you mom! F**k you dad! Burn in HELL! I've never honored/gave into my parents... Command 5 broken.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
I refuse to bow down to any God who denies me my right to hoboes at the bus station. I bought the pipewrench, I intendeths to use it. Command 6 is broken.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Not only do I love my wife too much to do such a thing, I fear for my life. If she ever suspected I committed adultery... I'd be no more than limbless torso in the dumpster (sorry for the grotesque imagery, its necessary to get my point across).
8. Thou shalt not steal.
F**k that. Command 8 broken.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
I've gossipped, everybody has gossiped. Commandment 9 broken.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Are you schvitzing me? Really, my neighbors crap pales in comparison to mine... cant say they dont have really nice "roll-a-hose" device. Command 10 broken.
Peach Jr.
8th September 2003, 04:30 PM
I've broken all of them except 5 and 7.
Commandment 5: I like my mother and father. I try to do right by them. It's good enough for me, even if it isn't good enough for the Invisible Buddy in the Sky
Commandment 7: I love my husband and see no real reason to cheat on him. Of course, if the pretty girl at the bookstore was available...I'd be thinking about it :D Or maybe not...
Oh yeah, if you're wondering about #6, if you eat meat, you've broken it. Should have been more specific :D
shemp
8th September 2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by shemp
I'll reproduce them here, as given by Mr. Randi in this week's commentary:
So how many of us have coveted our neighbor's ass, or worse?
I've broken all but number 6. I'm on the Highway to Hell!
Before anyone calls me on having violated #7 (adultery), I want to point out that this was back in the 80s, I was not married at the time, but the woman in question was. In fact, her husband had left her over 10 years earlier, but they had never finalized the divorce.
I'm not trying to act moral, just covering my a$$ in case my wife sees this. :D
Gulliamo
8th September 2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by shemp
1. I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Brought who out of Egypt?
House of bondage? I was wondering how I got out of that 8th Ave hotel!
Sindai
8th September 2003, 06:47 PM
1. I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Since I put him on the same level as all other gods, I guess i really don't violate this one.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
In the religious sense of idol-woreship actually meant here, I don't violate the commandment.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
God dammit, I think I've broken this one.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Oops, I just did all of my computer science homework this past Sunday. Broken. I also usually wash my clothes on Sundays...
5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Done, although only as much as they warranted, which was almost always, thankfully, a great deal.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
Not humans, certainly.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Not broken (unfortunately!) :p
8. Thou shalt not steal.
Hmm...nothing serious, but I've probably stolen from friends unintentionally. And maybe when I was younger an I just can't remember. Not sure how stringent this one is so I'll say I haven't broken it.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Never lied, so not broken.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Interpreting "neighbor" liberally, I've certainly been jealous of people I know, so I guess that's broken.
Wow, only 3 for 10. I'm holier than I thought. :D
RSLancastr
8th September 2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Yahweh
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
GOD DAMMIT! JESUS F*NKING CHRIST! Command 3 just broken.[/B]Uhhhh... "finking?" "fanking?"
Regardless, while this would be frowned upon, "taking the Lord's name in vain" means something else (or so I have been told).
While many believe that what you just (sorta) did falls into the "name in vain" category, a close examination of the original wording shows (again, so I have been told) that it is talking about swearing an oath in God's/Jesus' name.
So, "I swear by Jesus that I will pay you by next Wednesday" would be "taking the lord's name in vain."
RSLancastr
8th September 2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Peach Jr.
Oh yeah, if you're wondering about #6, if you eat meat, you've broken it. Should have been more specific :D Nope!
The original word was not the word for "kill", but was the word for "murder", in the legal sense.
Gulliamo
8th September 2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by
8. Thou shalt not steal.
Does this include tax filings? What about pens from the office? Or what about the hearts of young lasses? Could I be condemed to eternal damnation for "stealing a kiss"?
Brown
8th September 2003, 08:26 PM
There seems to be no consensus on what it means to "break" a commandment.
Some folks take the position that if you think about breaking a commandment, then that's the same as actually breaking it. In other words, the commandments prohibit thoughtcrime as well as bad acts. (That thoughtcrime is a sin is supported by a Christian liturgy in which the congregation confesses: "We have sinned against You by thought, word and deed.")
I've never committed adultery or murder, but I have been told to my face that I've broken the commandments against those practices anyway, because I've thought about breaking them.
I've never in my life seriously thought about making an idol, but some have told me that I've broken the "graven image" commandment. Not everyone takes the position that the "graven image" commandment applies to idolatry only. Some take the position that the commandment forbids making any representation of any other things, whether it be a statue, a painting, a photograph, etc. And then, there are those who hold to the view that "everyone worships something." With this premise, they conclude that if you do not worship the God of Abraham, you must necessarily be engaging in idolatry.
JesFine
8th September 2003, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Brown
Some folks take the position that if you think about breaking a commandment, then that's the same as actually breaking it. In other words, the commandments prohibit thoughtcrime as well as bad acts. (That thoughtcrime is a sin is supported by a Christian liturgy in which the congregation confesses: "We have sinned against You by thought, word and deed.")
That's amazing. It is impossible to talk about something without thinking about it. Thus, any time the ten commandments are brought up, everyone in church is sinning (except the ones napping). Unless by "think about" they mean "consider" in which case ok, that makes sense. Wait, no it doesn't.
I've only broken 3, 4, 5, and 8. Assuming my definition of broken anyway. I don't think #9 implies gossip -- unless the gossip is a lie. And I don't really gossip anyway. It seems I am pretty much a saint.
evildave
8th September 2003, 09:27 PM
Technically, given "pro-life" interpretation of where life begins, if you throw out the seeds/pits of your grocery fruit to rot in a landfill, you've chopped up and burned an ancient and beautiful tree for every seed.
Brown
8th September 2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by JesFine
That's amazing. It is impossible to talk about something without thinking about it. Thus, any time the ten commandments are brought up, everyone in church is sinning (except the ones napping). Unless by "think about" they mean "consider" in which case ok, that makes sense. Wait, no it doesn't.Some of the attitudes of most Christian churches are very puzzling and border on nonsensical (to my way of thinking, anyway). In one instance with which I am familiar, a minister, after baptizing a baby, told the congregation that the baby was a sinner. Astonishing, I thought. What sins could this baby possibly have committed? No court in any civilized country would hold an infant just a few weeks old as culpable for any offense, but the church would hold the infant culpable.
When I asked about this, I received a response that was (to my way of thinking) nonsense upon nonsense. "Sin is what we are," I was told. We are born into it. Being a sinner is not a matter of choice.
I tried to follow this line of questioning further, asking how anyone could possibly get into heaven, as all are sinners whether they commit bad acts or not. The answer was (to my way of thinking) nonsense cubed. Sinners need to ask forgiveness, and they receive it; but they are still sinners all the same, even after receiving forgiveness.
Some church members apply similar "logic" to the commandments, holding that all people necessarily break all of the commandments. They can try to keep the commandments, but they break all of them just the same. Even so, they still should continue to try to keep them.
If you think that's a load of double-talk, you're exactly right.
Yahweh
9th September 2003, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by Brown
Some of the attitudes of most Christian churches are very puzzling and border on nonsensical (to my way of thinking, anyway). In one instance with which I am familiar, a minister, after baptizing a baby, told the congregation that the baby was a sinner. Astonishing, I thought. What sins could this baby possibly have committed? No court in any civilized country would hold an infant just a few weeks old as culpable for any offense, but the church would hold the infant culpable.
Usually a good response to that is "It was always my understanding that babies are the only 'pure' things we have on this earth. They have not been corrupted by prejudice, propaganda, media, or religion". Of course, they'll probably respond back with "Uhhh... where all sinners! THATS THE WAY IT IS!".
When I asked about this, I received a response that was (to my way of thinking) nonsense upon nonsense. "Sin is what we are," I was told. We are born into it. Being a sinner is not a matter of choice.
I tried to follow this line of questioning further, asking how anyone could possibly get into heaven, as all are sinners whether they commit bad acts or not. The answer was (to my way of thinking) nonsense cubed. Sinners need to ask forgiveness, and they receive it; but they are still sinners all the same, even after receiving forgiveness.
Lets see, it takes about 2 years for a child to learn to speak. So children under 2 are unable to ask for forgiveness... if something were to happen to them, they'd be cast down to Hell for being born a sinner... tough love I guess...
Another year before they can form complete-ish sentences. Another year before their cognitive linguistics skills allow them to "understand" what they are saying. So children under 4 cant understand the words they are saying, if they were to ask for forgiveness, it would mean nothing, children under 4 have no choice but to go to Hell. (Its the same as myself reading latin, I can say the words but wont know what they mean.)
And its possibly years and years before they understand the significance of belief and religion.
Thats church "logic" for ya...
Some church members apply similar "logic" to the commandments, holding that all people necessarily break all of the commandments. They can try to keep the commandments, but they break all of them just the same. Even so, they still should continue to try to keep them.
If you think that's a load of double-talk, you're exactly right.
They'll say anything to glorify themselves over the naughty naughty heathens, even if it means making up their own loopholes through Christianity.
Yahweh
9th September 2003, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by RSLancastr
Uhhhh... "finking?" "fanking?"
At the moment, I was thinking of Papa FUNKosophy...
LW
9th September 2003, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Sindai
Never lied, so not broken.
And you expect us to believe that?
Peach Jr.
9th September 2003, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by RSLancastr
Nope!
The original word was not the word for "kill", but was the word for "murder", in the legal sense.
That particular commandment is used to justify certain people's ethical vegetarianism. I'm thinking of my brother-in-law's wife in particular. Oddly, she eats chicken and fish, so I guess they aren't *really* animals...;)
Agammamon
9th September 2003, 07:03 AM
Its easier to list the ones I haven't broken.
6, 7, and I suppose you could add 1 (I haven't actually worshipped another god though I haven't worshipped this one either).
Hmm, I suppose 6 is out also. While I've never personally killed anyone, I have been in the military for a decade and at the very least moved a lot of ammunition to the planes that when out and did the killing.
Gulliamo
9th September 2003, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Agammamon
Hmm, I suppose 6 is out also. While I've never personally killed anyone, I have been in the military for a decade and at the very least moved a lot of ammunition to the planes that when out and did the killing.
In that case I guess I'm out of the running for "Saint-of-the-Year" also. I've trained the soldiers that went overseas. And just being there, showing my support, encouraging them, filling out the paperwork so they get paid, teaching them to shoot in the first place, etc, etc, pretty much makes me guilty by association.
pillory
9th September 2003, 09:47 AM
i started to vote from the first one ,but it bumbed to the poll,so i hand't had the chance to vote all that i have broken
jim_scotti
9th September 2003, 04:01 PM
Ok, so I took the poll and here are my followups to each commandment.....
1. I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
N.A. Being an atheist, I don't have any gods before this God or behind this God, for that matter.... So this one is not applicable to me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Again, not applicable - I don't make graven images or any other images of any dieties....
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
G.dammit... Got me on that one, though "God Damn" doesn't really mean anything to me, it's just a habit I picked up along the way....
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Got me on this one too. I work or don't work on the Sabbath as I choose. As an Astronomer, I often observe over weekends and on Sunday. When not observing, I find pickup softball games much more important in my life than participating in primitive religious rituals.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Here we have this blatant threat again: Do this or I'll kill you.
I love my parents, so I haven't broken this one. I don't ever remember telling them that I hated them in anger either. As an adult, I've come to appreciate them even more than I did as a child.
6. Thou shalt not kill. (really Murder)
I haven't murdered anyone....
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Got me here, but only with my then future wife, but don't tell my kids (a bad example!) or my folks or in-laws!....
8. Thou shalt not steal.
I can't remember ever stealing anything....
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
I've never lied about my neighbor.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
I do not covet my neigbor's house or husband (not that she's married) or her manservant or her maidservant or her ox (well, she doesn't have one, but I also don't covet her dog, it barks too much anyway) or her ass, as nice as it might be, or anything else that is my neighbors. I might admire her beauty, but I don't covet her.....
Jim.
Dancing David
9th September 2003, 04:29 PM
Afetr tyhe forst one therst don't matter, I would never kill anyone unless I had to, and try to tell the truth, myneighbor's wife isn't that cute...
Roadtoad
9th September 2003, 07:10 PM
I suppose depending upon how you define "murder," then yes, I've even broken #6. (I beat the hell out of someone. They didn't die, but they didn't screw with me anymore, either. So, I guess because I broke his will -- along with his nose, his arm, his knee... -- I "killed" him.)
See you all in the netherworld. (Damn, sounds like it's gonna be one interesting crowd down there...)
Colloden
10th September 2003, 03:02 PM
The only real detraction for Atheism is the oblivion bit at the end of life – maybe that’s what puts people off.
Sundog
10th September 2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Colloden
The only real detraction for Atheism is the oblivion bit at the end of life – maybe that’s what puts people off.
Well, that and the lack of pot luck dinners.
Colloden
10th September 2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Sundog
Well, that and the lack of pot luck dinners.
Is that like a pot noodle (that is, inedible) ?
Roadtoad
10th September 2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Sundog
Well, that and the lack of pot luck dinners.
Actually, if more churches had pot lucks, maybe there's be more atheists... :roll:
justsaygnosis
10th September 2003, 07:43 PM
Number six isn't specifically exclusive to homo-sapiens the way it's presented in this thread.
Even though I've yet to kill a homo-sapien I've killed lots of other things.
Aside from that,at one time or another I've been guilty of the other nine.
Some of us take longer to mature than others, I'm one of them.
It's been a while since I indulged in the other nine but I'd be lying through my teeth if I claimed innocence.
jimmygun
12th September 2003, 08:54 AM
God=Commandments
No god, therefore no commandments therefore I haven't broken anything. By the way, my neighbour's wife has two nice ones.
Seismosaurus
12th September 2003, 03:24 PM
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Nope, I don't have any other gods at all so I haven't broken this one.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above...
I've made models of some of the planets, does that count?
...Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them...
Guess not. I didn't worship my models.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.
Done this often.
4. Remember the sabbath day...
Hmm. I honestly can't remember a single occasion when I have done work on a Sunday. Not paid work, anyway. But it's more laziness than anything.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother:
No problem here.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
Haven't had to do this. Would if I had to though, I think. I have no problem with my government killing in my name, if it needs to.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Never had the chance.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
Nicked a pen from WH Smiths once.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
No, I don't think so. I don't usually know my neighbours.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife
Coveted my neighbour's wife once, but man was she worth coveting...
Broke three of the ten. Not bad for a hellbound atheist.
nightwind
13th September 2003, 10:46 AM
Er, before I answer; if I haven't broken any, can I be God? :rolleyes:
Yahweh
13th September 2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by nightwind
Er, before I answer; if I haven't broken any, can I be God? :rolleyes:
Get in line...
peptoabysmal
13th September 2003, 11:08 PM
I checked all 10. I'm not sure if killing in the line of duty counts or not.
Perhaps there would be a good argument that this is why I'm an atheist, that I can't keep the 10 commandments. I like to think that it just doesn't make any logical sense that there is a God.
Some Friggin Guy
14th September 2003, 12:58 AM
1. I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
I used to worship Ahriman. I assume that counts.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
And I used to have a statue of Ahriman I kept on my dashboard.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
This is a tough one, since God, at least in Catholicism, has no known name, all I can say is that if I knew what it was, I would deliberately use it in vain, so I counted this one.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Yeah. Okay. I'm going to give up over-time pay coz Inviso-boy says to. Not bloody likely.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Well, we all know how I felt about my parents when I first left the church.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
Well, this one time...at band camp...
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
I have to combine this one here with this:
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Well, since I don't think God has open marriages in his plan, I'm going to have to say I broke both these in a single act.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
Assuming he means in something other than baseball, I would have to say...I've done this a few times.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Well...I once used a bear as a false witness against my neighbor. Does that count?
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