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Hexxenhammer
8th September 2003, 11:38 AM
Is your country's news and media following the American presidential campaign already? If it is, why? Do you guys give a rats @$$ who the candidates are over a year before the election? Do you care at all who the US pres is?

Mendor
8th September 2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Is your country's news and media following the American presidential campaign already?Somewhat. A few reports on the various Democratic candidates, plus a few mentions of Bush trying to get in gear for the 2004 election.If it is, why?"Because it is there", plus it's relevant when talking about the actions of Bush.Do you guys give a rats @$$ who the candidates are over a year before the election?Speaking for myself, not really, unless Bush were (for some reason) to drop out.Do you care at all who the US pres is? Yes.

DanishDynamite
8th September 2003, 01:06 PM
Hexxenhammer: Is your country's news and media following the American presidential campaign already? Not that I've noticed.
If it is, why?
NA
Do you guys give a rats @$$ who the candidates are over a year before the election?
Personally, no.
Do you care at all who the US pres is? I care about his/her political platform. Is it someone who is liable to invade some new countries in pre-emptive defense? Is it someone liable to unsign more international agreements? Of course, these are just details. Most people who take an interest are probably more interested in the new president's views on the economy and what to do about it. The world's stock markets are quite sensitive, in this regard.

Soapy Sam
8th September 2003, 01:45 PM
Do I care? Yes.
Why?
I work for Halliburton.
If Bush gets kicked out, we may get Dick Cheney back.

Ziggurat
8th September 2003, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Soapy Sam
Do I care? Yes.
Why?
I work for Halliburton.
If Bush gets kicked out, we may get Dick Cheney back.

Do you want him back?

Hexxenhammer
8th September 2003, 02:30 PM
Thanks for the replies. I wonder because until 9/11, Americans got very little international news. If pushed I think I could only name maybe 6 or 7 other world leaders (prime ministers and presidents and such) much to my shame. And elections are maybe covered the day they happen. The UK being an exception to this.

I was just shocked when someone posting from Japan said that the anti-war people there were pulling for Howard Dean. It amazed me that anyone out of the US would know who was running for Pres in the at this early date.

Grammatron
8th September 2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Thanks for the replies. I wonder because until 9/11, Americans got very little international news. If pushed I think I could only name maybe 6 or 7 other world leaders (prime ministers and presidents and such) much to my shame. And elections are maybe covered the day they happen. The UK being an exception to this.

I was just shocked when someone posting from Japan said that the anti-war people there were pulling for Howard Dean. It amazed me that anyone out of the US would know who was running for Pres in the at this early date.

I think you made a tiny mistake in your post -- it's not that until 9/11 Americans got very little international news, it's that American cared very little about international news. I for one had no problem keeping up with events outside US boarders, that includes who foreign leaders are and their policies.

DanishDynamite
8th September 2003, 02:46 PM
Hexxenhammer:Thanks for the replies. I wonder because until 9/11, Americans got very little international news. You must be kidding. I would be very surprised if, out of all foreign countries, news regarding the US wasn't the highest percentage of foreign news air-time.
I was just shocked when someone posting from Japan said that the anti-war people there were pulling for Howard Dean. It amazed me that anyone out of the US would know who was running for Pres in the at this early date. The US is a superpower. What they do affects others significantly, if only indirectly. In any case, I'm not surprised regarding the Japanese e-mail.

Prester John
8th September 2003, 02:52 PM
Didn't know it had started :)

a_unique_person
8th September 2003, 04:04 PM
Since the US is the world's only superpower, we watch the election in the US pretty closely. Not so much the early manouvering for places, but when the race starts in earnest, much more so.

Who is in power has a pretty big influence, for example, on where we will be going to war, who are enemies will be, how trade deals will go.

sorgoth
8th September 2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Is your country's news and media following the American presidential campaign already? If it is, why? Do you guys give a rats @$$ who the candidates are over a year before the election? Do you care at all who the US pres is?

A bit (I DO live in Canada, after all.Over a billion dollars a day in trade is no small thing.), no, I don't care this early who's going for the presidency, and yes, I do care who the US pres is, since he holds a huge amount of power.

Pyrian
8th September 2003, 04:54 PM
Howard Dean has garnered a relatively disproportionate amount of press for several reasons:

1) Most notably, his campaign structure is distinctive, based largely on internet communities and private individual donations. He's basically come from nowhere and become the front-runner, and done so in a new and different way. This alone would be considered newsworthy.

2) His strong anti-Iraq-war stance has made him instantly popular with the growing number of Americans who were either against it from the beginning or are turning against it in response to the subsequent difficulties.

3) He has the somewhat bombastic, perhaps even hyperbolic speaking style that journalists frankly seem to like to write about, IMO.

shuize
8th September 2003, 05:04 PM
Hexxenhammer,

I may be the poster from Japan you mentioned above from the "Is it all over for Bush" thread. Just to clarify, I am a U.S. citizen. I think only the very well informed Japanese have any idea who is running for the Democratic nomination. For all the criticism the U.S. takes for it's ignorance of world affairs, Japan must surely come in a close second.

As a test, I asked my Japanese wife if she could name any of the Democratic candidates. I was surprised that she even remembered one: Lieberman. But then again, she lived in the U.S. for many years.

Expat-Americans I know here follow the primaries pretty closely. As complicated as the U.S. primary system is, it's still much easier to follow (and more interesting) than Japanese politics.

Dean has some popularity among the anti-war, anti-Bush crowd. Especially among the English teachers who, after years of speaking in child-like sentences to their Japanese students, like things broken down into nice bite-size slogans like the Animal Farm Sheep: "War is Bad," "Bush is Bad," "Dean is Good!"

Hexxenhammer
8th September 2003, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by DanishDynamite
Hexxenhammer:You must be kidding. I would be very surprised if, out of all foreign countries, news regarding the US wasn't the highest percentage of foreign news air-time.I meant American's getting little news about other countries. My wording was confusing. And Grammatron is right, by and large, Americans I don't think care much about what happens in other countries unless it directly affects them.

I may be the poster from Japan you mentioned above from the "Is it all over for Bush" thread. Just to clarify, I am a U.S. citizen. I think only the very well informed Japanese have any idea who is running for the Democratic nomination. For all the criticism the U.S. takes for it's ignorance of world affairs, Japan must surely come in a close second. Ah. Good to know we're not the only self-centered jerks on the block. I'd have to say that culturally, Japan maybe has a bigger impact on the US now than any other country. Or maybe I just watch too many cartoons.

rustypouch
8th September 2003, 05:47 PM
About the only things I have heard as of now is talk about how the Democrats still have no viable candiate.

But coverage a YEAR before the election? Isn't that a bit ridiculous. In the great white north, coverage only begins when an election is called, and only gets serious a few months before the date.

As for who wins, as long as it is not Bush I really don't care. But I almost want him to get re-elected, because if nothing else it will be interesting in that kind of I-fear-to-watch-but-I-cannot-turn-away type of interest.

peptoabysmal
8th September 2003, 06:56 PM
I shouldn't post here because I'm Uh-mer-uh-cun (American). I just thought this breif history on our two party system might be of interest here. In my opinion, it is well written and accurate.

A Brief History of the American Two Party System (http://www.davidkabraham.com/OldWeb/Beliefs/America/twopartysystem.htm)

Flo
9th September 2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Is your country's news and media following the American presidential campaign already?

I live in France and work in Switzerland, and in both countries anything about the USA is news, included of course the presidential campaign. We already know everything about every declared of potential candidate to date.

If it is, why?

Everybody likes a bit of cabaret :D

Do you guys give a rats @$$ who the candidates are over a year before the election?

Sure. You have to if you want to place bets early enough :D

Do you care at all who the US pres is?

Not really. They all look and sound almost the same and I don't really think anyone can make a big difference other than look and sound more or less smart and pleasant.

Cleopatra
9th September 2003, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
Is your country's news and media following the American presidential campaign already? If it is, why? Do you guys give a rats @$$ who the candidates are over a year before the election? Do you care at all who the US pres is?

Such posts put me in despair :)

It seems that you are not aware of how much power your vote has. As I was saying in another thread your vote can change my life...

We have detailed reports about the presidential campaign 2-3 times a week and of course in 8 o clock news if something important happens. The reports are escorted by extended analysis regarding every candidate's beliefs about our problems ( The Cypriot problem and the Turks).


Why do we care?

If you left us alone we woudn't. :)

Hexxenhammer
9th September 2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by Cleopatra


Such posts put me in despair :)

It seems that you are not aware of how much power your vote has. As I was saying in another thread your vote can change my life...

We have detailed reports about the presidential campaign 2-3 times a week and of course in 8 o clock news if something important happens. The reports are escorted by extended analysis regarding every candidate's beliefs about our problems ( The Cypriot problem and the Turks).


Why do we care?

If you left us alone we woudn't. :)

If it makes you feel better, I'll keep Greece specifically in mind when I vote a year from now.;)

Cleopatra
9th September 2003, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by Hexxenhammer


If it makes you feel better, I'll keep Greece specifically in mind when I vote a year from now.;)

And Greece is tiny! Think of how many other countries you have to keep in mind before voting :)