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buka001
14th October 2007, 02:25 PM
I see on LCF they are claiming that final cut is finished. Should be released by 11 November they hope. Apparently the pre-order site is down.
Anyway, a few of them are saying only a few more days till Gravy will finnaly be shut up. They are saying they would be willing to pay to watch Gravy cry while he watches LC:FC!
LOL their delusions run deep!!
MetalliSociety
14th October 2007, 02:27 PM
Lol. I'm sure they said that about the first 2 versions, the Pentacon, Zeigeist, Terror Storm, etc etc etc. Yet, they all get debunked. Strange isn't it?
chatiez
14th October 2007, 02:32 PM
Is the name of the LC:4 published yet?
qarnos
14th October 2007, 02:41 PM
thread (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=17165)
Dear Supporter,
Thank you so much for your past support of Loose Change. We are happy to announce that Loose Change Final Cut will be done today. That's right, DONE TODAY! Later this week we'll be sending more info on the release schedule, so stay tuned.
To celebrate the occasion, we're offering 10% off any order over $15 placed through the Loose Change Store before Friday, October 19th. Your continued support helps us make the film happen and aids in the press for an independent investigation!
Cheers,
The LC Team
buka001
14th October 2007, 02:44 PM
A classic quote from the thread, is someone says - $250 for a signed copy? Isn't that a little expensive.
The reply - Its actually free, with a donation of $250
LOL
qarnos
14th October 2007, 02:47 PM
Our friend MM has worked out why the NIST WTC7 report is delayed:
I wondered if the NIST WTC7 Final Report was being delayed because they wanted to view the case presented by Loose Change Final Cut first.
If NIST released their final, final, well maybe final report and LCFC presented explosive (excuse pun) new evidence that WTC 7 was a CD, well that wouldn't look too good for NIST.
The irony of the bolded statement seems to be lost on him.
qarnos
14th October 2007, 02:51 PM
Is the name of the LC:4 published yet?
"Loose Change: Final Cut" (abbreviated to LC:FC).
Hyperviolet
14th October 2007, 02:52 PM
38 days.............Until Mark Roberts watches, and weeps.
I'd pay money for Roberts bottled tears when he watches it.
lawlz.
cludgie
14th October 2007, 02:53 PM
A classic quote from the thread, is someone says - $250 for a signed copy? Isn't that a little expensive.
The reply - Its actually free, with a donation of $250
LOL
Well, it is probably Dylan's last big chance of a payday before he slips (ever deeper) into the abyss of obscurity.
jhunter1163
14th October 2007, 02:54 PM
From Headhunter @ LCF:
When you really come to think about it, the long extended delay turns out to be a good thing, in so far as we are about to have, in our hot little hands, a new truth engine + fuel, with which to CONTINUE to spread the truth about 9/11.
CONTINUITY being the operative word.
The 9/11 truth movement appears to be stalling, (more like dying) as we become increasingly distanced in time from the history shaping, "catastrophic, catalzing, new Pearl Harbor event". Reciprocally, the further away we get from 9/11, the easier it is to look on it with increasing scrutiny and analysis in order to more accurately discern just what the f__ really happed on that tragic day on a sunny September morning, just over six short years ago. (What the hell did he just say?)
Therefore, the timing of this release really couldn't be better.
May it spread like Wildfire, and cause the truth about 9/11 to "bifurcate" yet again, (what? bifurcate?)increasing our numbers, particularly in the US, to many 10's of millions, if not over 100 million people, who've come to seriously question the voracity of the government's offcial account about that tragic event. (WTF? Or does he mean "veracity"?)
On a side note, a few days ago, I saw an interview with the country stars Brooks and Dunn, who Bush Jr. invited to play at his inaugural and on another occasion, and by God I swear that it was apparent that they KNOW, as the one guy was talking about the importance of getting news from alternative media in order to better understand what's REALLY going on in the world, and he refered to the Bush administration as a "regime", and that's coming from your most traditional conservative country rock stars, who were personal avid supporters of Bush and the conservative right wing. They know, and it pains them deeply. I saw that. There's no escaping the truth. (Just what you need, more rednecks on your side.)
This new release, at THIS stage of the game, ensures CONTINUITY of the 9/11 Truth Movement, as the movement of the truth that 9/11 in fact was an inside job, sanctioned by, and then covered up by, the highest levels of the present government of the United States including Bush and Cheney themselves, especially Cheney.
Let this great largely unspoken shame, be spoken out loud, and "outed" and shouted, en mass, so that the healing and the historical transformation in the wake of the truth made known, can ensue. (I can't comment about "outing" since it's a breach of rule 10.)
The truth will OUT. ;)
Release the hounds! Release LCFC!
Good work Dylan and crew!
The trick here will be to see just how fast we as a movement can get 1st a MILLION and then 10 MILLION disks circling the globe.
You see, because people tend to show this to others, and even make and further distribute copies, 10 million represents up to 100 million or more converts, and the film has largely been designed for newbies, and not "the choir" of truthers, so that it may fly to its mark.
I am reminded of one of those middle age catapults hurling flaming balls over the castle wall of the corrupt king.. ;) (Yes, LC:FC is a flaming bag of something, all right...)
My commentary in bold.
Hyperviolet
14th October 2007, 02:55 PM
"Loose Change: Final Cut" (abbreviated to LC:FC).
I'm not sure, but i think Chatiez is getting at the notion of a Loose Change: Final Cut 2.
CHF
14th October 2007, 02:59 PM
Notice how deep the twoofers' obsession is with us debunkers. Rather than say "only 38 more days until the twoof sweeps America and Bush is overthrown" all they can think of is Gravy!
I sure hope someone is currently working on yet another twoofer video....
You know...just in case LCFC doesn't topple the government. :rolleyes:
qarnos
14th October 2007, 03:00 PM
I'm not sure, but i think Chatiez is getting at the notion of a Loose Change: Final Cut 2.
Oh! :D
I've always thought of LC4 as Final Cut:
Loose Change
Loose Change: 2nd Edition
Loose Change: 2nd Edition Recut
Loose Change: Final Cut
I think the next version will be:
Loose Change: Final Cut: 5th Anniversary Edition
Redtail
14th October 2007, 03:04 PM
Oh! :D
I've always thought of LC4 as Final Cut:
Loose Change
Loose Change: 2nd Edition
Loose Change: 2nd Edition Recut
Loose Change: Final Cut
I think the next version will be:
Loose Change: Final Cut: 5th Anniversary Edition
I was thinking Loose Change: Final Cut: Director's Cut
T.A.M.
14th October 2007, 03:09 PM
Must have been a doozy 10% they added, as the 90% complete version barely got a rise where it was shown...lol
as for it causing the truth movement to "bifurcate", yes I hope it does as well. So how will it "bifurcate"? Into morons and idiots, or into planers1 and planers2...lol
That is what happens when someone speaks with words beyond their knowledge or scope.
TAM:)
qarnos
14th October 2007, 03:16 PM
I was thinking Loose Change: Final Cut: Director's Cut
The way I see it, Dylan will now cut ties with the movement and try to make it as a real director making real films, using his new-found "fame". He probably doesn't realise that few people outside conspiracy/debunking circles have a clue who he is.
When his plans to be the next Kevin Smith/Michael Moore don't come to fruition and he hits upon hard times, he will fall back to the one group who has always been there to line his pockets: The Nutters.
By this stage the movement will be almost dead and they will clamor for more of the same from Dylan, if only so they can fool themselves for a little while longer that this is going to be "the big one" that blows the whole thing open.
Sure, it will probably be no more than a re-packaged Final Cut with perhaps an audio commentary track from the man himself, but we are talking about guys who are getting excited about the "10% off" deal* that Dylan had generously offered. Get your truth gear at a never before seen low, low price!
* I guess we can infer from that that his profit margin is at least 10%.
LashL
14th October 2007, 03:19 PM
as for it causing the truth movement to "bifurcate", yes I hope it does as well. So how will it "bifurcate"? Into morons and idiots, or into planers1 and planers2...lol
That is what happens when someone speaks with words beyond their knowledge or scope.
TAM:)
Indeed. That cracked me up, too. :)
And for some reason, while reading the second and third paragraphs, I found myself laughing out loud and thinking, "how propitious" :D
CHF
14th October 2007, 03:26 PM
Must have been a doozy 10% they added, as the 90% complete version barely got a rise where it was shown...lol
That new 10% had better be something along the lines of "here's the guy who rigged up the WTC with bombs" or else this might well be a bigger flop than the previous 24,197 twoofer flicks.
JAStewart
14th October 2007, 03:33 PM
I love the twoof movement.
~enigma~
14th October 2007, 03:40 PM
Indeed. That cracked me up, too. :)
And for some reason, while reading the second and third paragraphs, I found myself laughing out loud and thinking, "how propitious" :D
I think Headhunter did way to many drugs when he was younger.
Undesired Walrus
14th October 2007, 03:53 PM
As much as I dislike the Avery, it is exciting to finish a film (Even if it makes the case for the murderers of the 3000 being innocent) that has been long in the making, so I will give this night to him.
Hyperviolet
14th October 2007, 03:56 PM
I can't imagine LCFC will be quite the hit the 2ndEd was.
The movement is slowly dying with less and less people losing interest. The target audience are the hardcore conspiracists, and with the watered down claims and less sensationalistic approach, they aren't going to be too impressed.
Nick Terry
14th October 2007, 04:22 PM
Surely the question for us debunkers is who's going to Torrent the damn thing and how many of these
:dl:
we can award to the first five minutes.
:D
OldTigerCub
14th October 2007, 04:24 PM
I can't imagine LCFC will be quite the hit the 2ndEd was.
The movement is slowly dying with less and less people losing interest. The target audience are the hardcore conspiracists, and with the watered down claims and less sensationalistic approach, they aren't going to be too impressed.
I would agree that LC:FC will probably not see the same sales as 2ndED.
It will be interesting to see how long it takes to accumulate cobwebs on YouTube, though.:p
cludgie
14th October 2007, 04:28 PM
The trick here will be to see just how fast we as a movement can get 1st a MILLION and then 10 MILLION disks circling the globe.
Doesn't that almost constitute littering?
cludgie
14th October 2007, 04:35 PM
The way I see it, Dylan will now cut ties with the movement and try to make it as a real director making real films, using his new-found "fame". He probably doesn't realise that few people outside conspiracy/debunking circles have a clue who he is.
I know when the BBC made their Conspiracy Files documentary it was claimed (probably by Avery) that he had a number of producers and studios making an orderly queue at his door. Somehow I find it very hard to believe. A lot has been made of 'kid makes film on a laptop that gets millions of downloads', which is all well and good. However I don't think there is anything particularly brilliant or unique about his style (if you ignore the content and just look at the delivery). And hes hardly kicked on from when he came to prominence, basically just rehashing the same old crap over and over.
Unless he winds up back at the fold making more looney tunes troofer films like you say, I honesly think Dylan will move onto 'other projects' and then quietly drift into realms of obscurity once again.
scissorhands
14th October 2007, 04:44 PM
miragememories
I wondered if the NIST WTC7 Final Report was being delayed because they wanted to view the case presented by Loose Change Final Cut first.
If NIST released their final, final, well maybe final report and LCFC presented explosive (excuse pun) new evidence that WTC 7 was a CD, well that wouldn't look too good for NIST.
Tell me this isnt for real?
How deluded can deluded get?:eye-poppi
MarkyX
14th October 2007, 05:13 PM
Hooray, another Avery video to vandalize
Bell
14th October 2007, 05:19 PM
Hooray, another Avery video to vandalize
:D
I'll be happily awaiting your version.
OldTigerCub
14th October 2007, 05:38 PM
Hooray, another Avery video to vandalize
Just send any extras my way....they fly better than regular clay pigeons, and I need to practice my skeet shooting.:D
Undesired Walrus
14th October 2007, 05:40 PM
Dylan's going backpacking through Europe remember!
The Amsterdam Hash and the Czech women are always superior to the unprosecuted killers of rush-hour workers and the waging of two costly wars fought under false pretext!
Drudgewire
14th October 2007, 05:47 PM
How deluded can deluded get?:eye-poppi
You've been here over a year and can still ask that with a straight face? ;)
A W Smith
14th October 2007, 06:53 PM
yeah they are finished all right
BenBurch
14th October 2007, 06:55 PM
Dylan's going backpacking through Europe remember!
The Amsterdam Hash and the Czech women are always superior to the unprosecuted killers of rush-hour workers and the waging of two costly wars fought under false pretext!
I know a nice Hostel we could send him to...
LashL
14th October 2007, 06:56 PM
Tell me this isnt for real?
How deluded can deluded get?:eye-poppi
That is quality Stundie material. Hurry, get a link and a screen capture. :)
1337m4n
14th October 2007, 07:55 PM
The date is September 11, 2021. An old and fat Dylan Avery is touting the upcoming release of "Loose Change: Eternal Ultimate Omega Super Finale Final Cut v5.0" He pledges to the 4 remaining members of the Truth Movement that it will expose the evil NWO and bring Gravy to his knees once and for all.
hellaeon
14th October 2007, 07:58 PM
I reckon Dylan and Bermass woudl make great televangeists. They seem to convince there members no matter what.
OldTigerCub
14th October 2007, 08:28 PM
I reckon Dylan and Bermass woudl make great televangeists. They seem to convince there members no matter what.
Hehe....I can't help but picture it now.....:rolleyes:
[silly thought]
"Welcome to the 9-11 Club! Comming to you from the First Church of the Mangled Troof and Discount House of Videos! Now here's the host of our show, the Right Reverend Dylan Sol Avery, and welcome Brother Bermas and the All Troofer Choir!"
[/silly thought]
:popcorn2
Reality Believer
14th October 2007, 08:50 PM
I know a nice Hostel we could send him to...
Oh snap! :eye-poppi Remind me to never come to your "Art Show".
The Doc
14th October 2007, 09:04 PM
Will there be a Google Video release for this version? I hope there isn't, just so we can watch Avery come up with a lame excuse as to why there isn't.
qarnos
14th October 2007, 10:07 PM
Will there be a Google Video release for this version? I hope there isn't, just so we can watch Avery come up with a lame excuse as to why there isn't.
Come on, Doc, be fair. He's already giving us 10% off. Don't be greedy.
Ratatoskr
15th October 2007, 12:23 AM
But but, they told the people at the Protest Festival in Norway that what they saw was the Final Cut.
Maybe it was the beta? Or release candidate?
The Doc
15th October 2007, 01:08 AM
Come on, Doc, be fair. He's already giving us 10% off. Don't be greedy.
Well the real question is... does he accept deception dollars?
Plantfoam
15th October 2007, 01:31 AM
Well the real question is... does he accept deception dollars?
I would SO very love the chance to pay him in person using Ameros, just to see the look on his face:D
Undesired Walrus
15th October 2007, 03:01 AM
I know a nice Hostel we could send him to...
The problem is, with Dylan declaring he would love to backpack through Europe, is that he is an awfully naive boy who doesn't quite know how this world works.
Given the films I have seen of his, I presume he thinks he will be chugging across Bulgaria in a first class train, eating German waffles after a good night sleep. After all, this world according to Dylan works like clockwork and is controlled and ordered.
In reality, that word he dislikes, he can expect to be on some kind of refugee ship, attempting to sleep in the corridors of the train carriage with one head on a fold down seat with dried semen sprayed all over it.
Bell
15th October 2007, 04:38 AM
Dylan's going backpacking through Europe remember!
The Amsterdam Hash and the Czech women are always superior to the unprosecuted killers of rush-hour workers and the waging of two costly wars fought under false pretext!
We don't need him over here.
SatansMaleVoiceChoir
15th October 2007, 04:53 AM
I am assuming that when these people refer to seeing Mark Roberts cry and bottling his tears, they mean tears of laughter, yes?
Undesired Walrus
15th October 2007, 05:01 AM
We don't need him over here.
He is somewhat the epitome of the American guys who stop by the Bulldog for a load of Thai Hash is he not?
Bell
15th October 2007, 05:12 AM
He is somewhat the epitome of the American guys who stop by the Bulldog for a load of Thai Hash is he not?
Yup. And with any luck, he'll be mugged in the train from Schiphol to Amsterdam.
If Dylan feels the need to visit Amsterdam, I suggest he visit the Anne Frank house (http://www.annefrank.org/content.asp?pid=1&lid=1&setlanguage=2). Maybe he'll learn a thing or two.
Undesired Walrus
15th October 2007, 05:17 AM
Yup. And with any luck, he'll be mugged in the train from Schiphol to Amsterdam.
Or.. when he has lost his way back to the Meeting Point Hostel (Something I did a lot) after a hazy day puffing away his new stock of cash, maybe he will bump into the tall black guys 'Coke, Coke, want some Coke?' with the umbrellas. Then he will try and tell them they should have been knocked off their impact point and fallen sideways.....
If Dylan feels the need to visit Amsterdam, I suggest he visit the Anne Frank house (http://www.annefrank.org/content.asp?pid=1&lid=1&setlanguage=2). Maybe he'll learn a thing or two.
Sad place. Was tipping it down when I got there. Amazing looking out the windows and sensing the Nazi troops walking past.
Hyperviolet
15th October 2007, 05:19 AM
If Dylan feels the need to visit Amsterdam, I suggest he visit the Anne Frank house (http://www.annefrank.org/content.asp?pid=1&lid=1&setlanguage=2). Maybe he'll learn a thing or two.
Bell,
I'm stopping off in Amsterdam en route to NYC this December.
Would you recommend visiting The Anne Frank House?
Bell
15th October 2007, 05:33 AM
Bell,
I'm stopping off in Amsterdam en route to NYC this December.
Would you recommend visiting The Anne Frank House?
How much time do you have at hand? You'll have to travel to Amsterdam by train first* (15 to 20 minute ride, depends on the service) and then take the tram to Westermarkt (trams 13, 14 or 17) about a 5/10 minute ride. There will be a line of visitors for the museum (though not as much as would there be in the summer).
But yes, if there is one thing visitors to Amsterdam should see, it's the Anne Frank house.
*Watch your bags.
Hyperviolet
15th October 2007, 05:51 AM
How much time do you have at hand? You'll have to travel to Amsterdam by train first* (15 to 20 minute ride, depends on the service) and then take the tram to Westermarkt (trams 13, 14 or 17) about a 5/10 minute ride. There will be a line of visitors for the museum (though not as much as would there be in the summer).
But yes, if there is one thing visitors to Amsterdam should see, it's the Anne Frank house.
*Watch your bags.
I've got about half a day there.
So i estimate about a good 6 hours to see just a little part of Amsterdam. I want to spend it wisely, and now that you've suggested it I can't think of a more *must-see* place than TAFH.
*Will watch his bags*
timhau
15th October 2007, 05:57 AM
I'd pay money for Roberts bottled tears when he watches it.
Money, as opposed to... Twoofbucks?
Anyway, it's nice to see them grasp the law of supply and demand like this. When there's no supply but some demand, the price does go up.
Bell
15th October 2007, 06:00 AM
I've got about half a day there.
So i estimate about a good 6 hours to see just a little part of Amsterdam. I want to spend it wisely, and now that you've suggested it I can't think of a more *must-see* place than TAFH.
*Will watch his bags*
If you have any other questions about visiting Amsterdam, PM me, and I'll try to help.
Hyperviolet
15th October 2007, 06:09 AM
If you have any other questions about visiting Amsterdam, PM me, and I'll try to help.
Thanks, Bell!
I'll keep it in mind and will PM you nearer the time.
:)
Mancman
15th October 2007, 07:54 AM
The problem is, with Dylan declaring he would love to backpack through Europe, is that he is an awfully naive boy who doesn't quite know how this world works.
He should go to Moscow, and have a protest in Red Square, in which he accuses Putin of mass murder.
Then he can get on the Trans-Manchurian railway to Beijing, and accuse the Chinese Govt. of mass murder.
He can round off the trip with a journey to Pyongyang, and accuse Kim Jong Il of mass murder.
After that (if he ever makes it back home) would he and his followers still call the US a police state?
buka001
15th October 2007, 08:02 AM
I should extend an offer to him to come visit South Africa. I'll take him on a guided tour. Will drop him him off in some very scenic and exciting areas.
If he really wants to experience the world out there, He is more than welcome to come to South Africa. Should teach the youngster a few things about life.
MetalliSociety
15th October 2007, 08:13 AM
So are Robert's tears liike Chuck Norris'? They can cure cancer but the problem is they never cry.:D
Hyperviolet
15th October 2007, 08:33 AM
So are Robert's tears liike Chuck Norris'? They can cure cancer but the problem is they never cry.:D
:D
dudalb
15th October 2007, 11:28 AM
I am waiting for Dylan to take a page from Peter Jackson's book and give us "Loose Change:The Extended Edition".
deep
15th October 2007, 12:45 PM
Hooray, another Avery video to vandalize
How exactly do you plan on obtaining a license to use/republish the material you intend to "vandalize"?
R.Mackey
15th October 2007, 12:46 PM
Parody is protected speech. Nice try, though.
Sword_Of_Truth
15th October 2007, 12:48 PM
I see on LCF they are claiming that final cut is finished. Should be released by 11 November they hope. Apparently the pre-order site is down.
Anyway, a few of them are saying only a few more days till Gravy will finnaly be shut up. They are saying they would be willing to pay to watch Gravy cry while he watches LC:FC!
LOL their delusions run deep!!
This is excellent news. Now Dylan & co. can go over to 3DRealms and help them finish Duke Nukem 4-EVER.
Drudgewire
15th October 2007, 12:58 PM
Parody is protected speech. Nice try, though.
Thank you Larry Flynt. http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/patriot.gif
deep
15th October 2007, 01:03 PM
Parody is protected speech. Nice try, though.
Sure, if you can establish fair use - good luck with that, considering the "parody" could potentially harm future sales of the original work.
I assume you're not planing to violate the DMCA in order to obtain LCFC, so will you all be buying the collector's edition or regular release? From what I hear, $250 gets you an autographed copy.
Drudgewire
15th October 2007, 01:12 PM
From what I hear, $250 gets you an autographed copy.
:dl: :dl: :dl: :dl:
Myriad
15th October 2007, 03:08 PM
It's free (with a $100 or $250 donation). If Dylan continues to only give them away for free (with a donation), there are technically no sales or sales revenues to harm.
Respectfully,
Myriad
qarnos
15th October 2007, 03:12 PM
It's free (with a $100 or $250 donation). If Dylan continues to only give them away for free (with a donation), there are technically no sales or sales revenues to harm.
Respectfully,
Myriad
Does the IRS really buy this "free with donation" crap?
NoZed Avenger
15th October 2007, 03:12 PM
Doesn't that almost constitute littering?
They could bundle it with AOL.
Arus808
15th October 2007, 03:18 PM
Does the IRS really buy this "free with donation" crap?
actually no, they dont buy it. this could get dylan a co into a lot of hot water. you wonder if they even have lawyer on retainer, let alone one that deals with taxes.
The Silver Shadow
15th October 2007, 03:20 PM
Wouldn't LTW have to issue tax receipts if they take donations in, at least for the American donors?
Bell
15th October 2007, 03:22 PM
If you're a troofer, there is no law that says you must pay taxes.
DGM
15th October 2007, 03:25 PM
Wouldn't LTW have to issue tax receipts if they take donations in, at least for the American donors?
That's only for non-profits.
The Silver Shadow
15th October 2007, 03:28 PM
That's only for non-profits.
Dylan could probably argue that they are an NPO because of the fact that they're giving away free DVDs on 9/11...
But that's just a thought.
TheDoLittle
17th October 2007, 10:10 AM
Sorry... but if it's not out on Blu Ray format, I ain't watchin' it...
nicepants
17th October 2007, 10:20 AM
Anyway, a few of them are saying only a few more days till Gravy will finnaly be shut up. They are saying they would be willing to pay to watch Gravy cry while he watches LC:FC!
LOL their delusions run deep!!
I predict that Gravy's reaction to LC:FC will be identical to [insert name of truther]'s reaction to the NIST report on WTC7.
:)
SpaceMonkeyZero
17th October 2007, 10:36 AM
Is the name of the LC:4 published yet?
Here's a good resource (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_the_13th_%28series%29#Crew) for them to get their next versions names.
SpaceMonkeyZero
17th October 2007, 10:39 AM
I predict that Gravy's reaction to LC:FC will be identical to [insert name of truther]'s reaction to the NIST report on WTC7.
:)
Somehow I doubt Gravy will just dismiss it with a wave of his hand. He will actually debunk the claims.
8den
17th October 2007, 10:40 AM
Sure, if you can establish fair use - good luck with that, considering the "parody" could potentially harm future sales of the original work.
I assume you're not planing to violate the DMCA in order to obtain LCFC, so will you all be buying the collector's edition or regular release? From what I hear, $250 gets you an autographed copy.
That depends did Do over get copyright clearance for all the news footage he's using, this time round?
Jonnyclueless
17th October 2007, 10:43 AM
A classic quote from the thread, is someone says - $250 for a signed copy? Isn't that a little expensive.
The reply - Its actually free, with a donation of $250
LOL
That's not a bad deal. I would happily watch the video if they donate $250 to me. And if they do the same thing for the next final cut, I will be happy to take donations for that as well. A couple o questions:
1) Is this going to be like the Blade Runner directors cut where they take out the narration? if so, great idea!
2) Anyone know how many minutes of bad sinister music along with displays of famous quotes fill the beginning half? Is it 5 minutes of this, or 10?
SpaceMonkeyZero
17th October 2007, 10:44 AM
If you're a troofer, there is no law that says you must pay taxes.
troofers are really deep into the "16th Amendment Was Never Ratified" CT as well... So I wouldn't be surprised if Dylan and Co. are cheating on their taxes.
What's that number again to report them to the IRS? (And I mean the REAL NWO Batphone connection, not the public 800 #) ;)
Dave Rogers
17th October 2007, 10:48 AM
Somehow I doubt Gravy will just dismiss it with a wave of his hand. He will actually debunk the claims.
Again.
Dave
jhunter1163
17th October 2007, 11:30 AM
troofers are really deep into the "16th Amendment Was Never Ratified" CT as well... So I wouldn't be surprised if Dylan and Co. are cheating on their taxes.
What's that number again to report them to the IRS? (And I mean the REAL NWO Batphone connection, not the public 800 #) ;)
You can reach them at area code 212-AUDIT-ME.
SpaceMonkeyZero
17th October 2007, 11:34 AM
He should go to Moscow, and have a protest in Red Square, in which he accuses Putin of mass murder.
Then he can get on the Trans-Manchurian railway to Beijing, and accuse the Chinese Govt. of mass murder.
He can round off the trip with a journey to Pyongyang, and accuse Kim Jong Il of mass murder.
After that (if he ever makes it back home) would he and his followers still call the US a police state?
What? No detour to Tehran to announce his Solidarity with the downtrodden Homosexuals that "Don't exist"?
Bell
17th October 2007, 05:36 PM
troofers are really deep into the "16th Amendment Was Never Ratified" CT as well... So I wouldn't be surprised if Dylan and Co. are cheating on their taxes.
What's that number again to report them to the IRS? (And I mean the REAL NWO Batphone connection, not the public 800 #) ;)
"Sir! The truth movement is on to you! And there's also this thing about taxes!"
"Texas? Wattabout Texas?"
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/W/e/bush_batphone.jpg
Cuddles
18th October 2007, 09:48 AM
How exactly do you plan on obtaining a license to use/republish the material you intend to "vandalize"?
Didn't Dylan have some little problems with copyright, what with the entire thing being copied from other people's videos and all the music being unlisenced? I hope he's sorted all that out this time, otherwise he could have more problems than just tax evasion.
And hes hardly kicked on from when he came to prominence, basically just rehashing the same old crap over and over.
Unless he winds up back at the fold making more looney tunes troofer films like you say, I honesly think Dylan will move onto 'other projects' and then quietly drift into realms of obscurity once again.
I think it's too late for him. Think of Joel Veitch (rathergood.com) or Rob Manuel (b3ta.com). A bunch of drunks lying around at home making silly little animations for free websites, and within a couple of years being paid large amounts of money for big TV adverts and series on MTV. How long as Dylan being playing at being a director/editor/producer/whatever now? And so far he's managed to make one film. If was time for him to move on to other projects right after the first LC was made. Regardless of the quality, which isn't exactly in his favour, spending several years constantly rehashing the same film is really not what investors are looking for.
Alferd_Packer
18th October 2007, 09:59 AM
Am I the only one who looks at the title of this thread and interpets it as:
"LC:CF Apparently finished, as in: dead as a doornail"
JimBenArm
18th October 2007, 10:02 AM
Am I the only one who looks at the title of this thread and interpets it as:
"LC:CF Apparently finished, as in: dead as a doornail"
That's how I read it at first, too. Funny how it fits...
SpaceMonkeyZero
18th October 2007, 10:05 AM
Am I the only one who looks at the title of this thread and interpets it as:
"LC:CF Apparently finished, as in: dead as a doornail"
That's how I interpreted it.
steve s
18th October 2007, 10:46 AM
Am I the only one who looks at the title of this thread and interpets it as:
"LC:CF Apparently finished, as in: dead as a doornail"
That's how I read it at first, too. Funny how it fits...
That's how I interpreted it.
Moi, aussi.
Steve S.
Sabrina
18th October 2007, 11:01 AM
*performs a quick head count to be sure she gets the number right* Fifthed.
Unsecured Coins
18th October 2007, 11:05 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Jaye77/twod.jpg
chipmunk stew
18th October 2007, 01:09 PM
(Yes, LC:FC is a flaming bag of something, all right...)
I plan on buying several to leave on people's doorsteps, ringing the doorbell and running away.
chipmunk stew
18th October 2007, 01:11 PM
Oh! :D
I've always thought of LC4 as Final Cut:
Loose Change
Loose Change: 2nd Edition
Loose Change: 2nd Edition Recut
Loose Change: Final Cut
I think the next version will be:
Loose Change: Final Cut: 5th Anniversary Edition
You forgot about Loose Change: Final Cut: Rough Cut
Technically, we're on LC5.
cludgie
18th October 2007, 01:51 PM
Don't forgot the special bonus 'Making of Loose Change:FC' feature. Here is a sneak preview.....
http://www.contestblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/bull.jpg
LashL
18th October 2007, 08:23 PM
You forgot about Loose Change: Final Cut: Rough Cut
Technically, we're on LC5.
Very good point. Version 4 was whatever they touted as their (*cough*) "world premiere" (http://www.protest.no/default.aspx?m=21&amid=584) (*cough*) in Norway in September, which was presumably the same, unfinished video that they touted as a "test screening" in NYC in September.
So, yes, the November 2007 version will be version 5.
SpaceMonkeyZero
19th October 2007, 06:43 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Jaye77/twod.jpg
Uh oh... it's the TWOOTH WORLD ORDER!!!!
Alferd_Packer
19th October 2007, 06:58 AM
Don't forgot the special bonus 'Making of Loose Change:FC' feature. Here is a sneak preview.....
http://www.contestblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/bull.jpg
Time to worm that animal.
OT trivia question: What kind of animal left that?
Not the sex, but the name of the animal in singular form.
8den
19th October 2007, 07:10 AM
Please let there be a director's commentary.
Or wait, Dylan would say nothing and let Bermas do all the talking.
"Yeah er that's, what Dylan said just there, thats a mistake, we put that one in intentionally so people will do their own research."
SpaceMonkeyZero
19th October 2007, 07:26 AM
Please let there be a director's commentary.
Or wait, Dylan would say nothing and let Bermas do all the talking.
"Yeah er that's, what Dylan said just there, thats a mistake, we put that one in intentionally so people will do their own research."
What is this video of Dylan sitting (figuratively) on his hands and not saying anything?
Unsecured Coins
19th October 2007, 08:05 AM
Ah, the hardfire debate. Good stuff.
Belz...
19th October 2007, 08:13 AM
I see on LCF they are claiming that final cut is finished.
Don't you mean, final cult ?
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