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Reality Believer
14th October 2007, 11:11 PM
Among the hundreds of thousands of posts in this sub-forum, I found a page that seems to be a jumping off point for several of the predominate names (among many) in the debunking trade, particularly post #862 & #876. What is interesting to note is the context of the discussion at the time, compared to today. Still contentious and candid but the tenor is a bit different.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53102&page=22
I'm right with you, Sultanist. I wasn't aware of 95% of this CT stuff until a couple of weeks ago when I joined this forum. It simply doesn't enter my daily life...and I live in New York City and am a tour guide who's given hundreds of tours at Ground Zero. I have never heard a New Yorker espouse one of these crackpot theories. As an experiment I tried talking sense to one of the worst of the CTists on the Loose Change site, but got nowhere, of course.
tacodaemon
14th October 2007, 11:25 PM
Also search for "popol vuh", the screen name of an LCF poster whose mockery of that famous picture of Edna Cintron standing in a hole in the side of the WTC was the catalyst that made Gravy plunge whole hog into debunkery.
edit: this thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=55324).
The Doc
14th October 2007, 11:30 PM
Also search for "popol vuh", the screen name of an LCF poster whose mockery of that famous picture of Edna Cintron standing in a hole in the side of the WTC was the catalyst that made Gravy plunge whole hog into debunkery.
edit: this thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=55324).
That last line is straight out of an action movie! I love it!
quixotecoyote
14th October 2007, 11:30 PM
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chillzero
15th October 2007, 02:26 AM
Wow, Gravy - do you remember a day when this didn't impact your daily life?
:)
Gravy
15th October 2007, 03:43 AM
Wow, Gravy - do you remember a day when this didn't impact your daily life?
:)Barely. But don't fret over me. It's the ladies who've been deprived of my sweet lovin' for the past year and a half who deserve our sympathy.
:duck:
Gravy
15th October 2007, 03:51 AM
That last line is straight out of an action movie! I love it!Man, I forgot what a busy beaver I was then. I wrote that post on April 13, and I hadn't even seen Loose Change yet. By the 25th I had a 148-page paper to hand to Dylan Avery, and most of the information in it I had to research for the first time. Now, I've got three projects that are more than half complete, but I can't get motivated to finish them.
ref
15th October 2007, 03:58 AM
Man, I forgot what a busy beaver I was then. I wrote that post on April 13, and I hadn't even seen Loose Change yet. By the 25th I had a 148-page paper to hand to Dylan Avery, and most of the information in it I had to research for the first time. Now, I've got three projects that are more than half complete, but I can't get motivated to finish them.
Wow. That was fast back then. I was completely unaware of any theories back in April 2006.
What projects do you have half complete, want to reveal anything yet? Finish them I say! :cool:
JAStewart
15th October 2007, 04:11 AM
Haha that last line was amazing, its now my sig line!
chillzero
15th October 2007, 04:28 AM
Barely. But don't fret over me. It's the ladies who've been deprived of my sweet lovin' for the past year and a half who deserve our sympathy.
:duck:
How do we survive? :dqueen
:D
Hyperviolet
15th October 2007, 05:01 AM
Man, I forgot what a busy beaver I was then. I wrote that post on April 13, and I hadn't even seen Loose Change yet. By the 25th I had a 148-page paper to hand to Dylan Avery, and most of the information in it I had to research for the first time. Now, I've got three projects that are more than half complete, but I can't get motivated to finish them.
That is seriously impressive.
Getting me to just type 50 pages would probably take me a month (honestly lol), and that's without having to watch a film, research, dismantle all the claims, fact-check and cross-reference everything.
How you do it i just don't know.
Arkan_Wolfshade
15th October 2007, 09:05 AM
How do we survive? :dqueen
:D
Don't worry, I've been stepping up to fill the void. :D
Gravy
15th October 2007, 09:42 AM
That is seriously impressive.
Getting me to just type 50 pages would probably take me a month (honestly lol), and that's without having to watch a film, research, dismantle all the claims, fact-check and cross-reference everything.
How you do it i just don't know.I had four big advantages there: a flexible schedule; the fact that I hadn't read any of the big reports and so wasn't bogged down with details; the fact that Avery posted the transcript of both versions of his video on his website (he has since chosen to not cater to the deaf rather than to give debunkers a leg up); and the fact that Avery said anyone could copy and disseminate his film. So I cut and pasted at will without worrying about copyright infringement (much of their video was already infringing on copyrights, but I didn't know that then). Oh, and no girlfriend. :mad:
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