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Boone 870
19th October 2007, 09:32 PM
Isn't live television great. At least four crackpots have interrupted the show in the first 20 minutes. Great entertainment.
CptColumbo
19th October 2007, 09:37 PM
Hopefully it will be on youtube soon, for those of us who don't get HBO.
LostAngeles
20th October 2007, 12:05 AM
I just saw the rebroadcast. Maher was pissed. He got up and went out into the audience and helped shove one guy out.
I think Chris Matthews was high during the show btw.
BenBurch
20th October 2007, 12:41 AM
I'd have been pissed off too. What nerve.
LostAngeles
20th October 2007, 12:54 AM
Via Digg: http://ianschwartz.com/2007/10/19/video-911-truthers-infiltrate-bill-mahers-real-time/
Has a video of it.
Oliver
20th October 2007, 01:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDcY2NK8bKE
The Doc
20th October 2007, 01:18 AM
This reminded me of the 9/11 South Park episode. When they were in the community hall and someone said something conspiracy related and the whole audience just groaned.
Unfit4Command
20th October 2007, 01:21 AM
I just saw the rebroadcast. Maher was pissed. He got up and went out into the audience and helped shove one guy out.
I think Chris Matthews was high during the show btw.
I think you're right...
portlandatheist
20th October 2007, 01:43 AM
Bill Maher referring to security: "Don't be gentle. A* kicking is what's called for"
Reminds me of the guy at the Kerry speech.
apathoid
20th October 2007, 01:44 AM
Yay Bill!!
Surely this is the work of the "We Are Change Idiots" morons. Aren't they the ones who posted that rebuttal video after Maher's segment?
apathoid
20th October 2007, 02:18 AM
Rosie weighs in. (http://www.rosie.com/blog/2007/10/20/ask-ro/)
see bill maher tonight?
yes
wild
with the screaming guys in the crowd
scared me
The woman has a way with words....
CptColumbo
20th October 2007, 02:22 AM
And we all know that yelling on a Live TV show makes you right.
They brought signs to a show that doesn't normally show the audience. Brilliant.
One, maybe two, people booed. Didn't they get the sense that the audience wasn't behind them.
ref
20th October 2007, 02:24 AM
Idiotic truthers.
quixotecoyote
20th October 2007, 02:27 AM
I was at a comedy show once where a drunk woman near the stage kept interrupting, and the comedienne eventually shifted her act into mocking the idiot. That was less embarrassing than these idiots.
And we all know that yelling on a Live TV show makes you right.
They brought signs to a show that doesn't normally show the audience. Brilliant.
One, maybe two, people booed. Didn't they get the sense that the audience wasn't behind them.
I liked the cheering from the normal audience members every time they hauled a nutter out.
lionking
20th October 2007, 02:56 AM
We don't get Bill Maher in Australia AFAIK, two questions:
1. Should I be grateful?
2. Where is he on the political spectrum? Personally helping kick out 9/11 nutters and calling for a**kicking suggests farish right wing.
That said, I agree with earlier posters. If there is really a groundswell supporting CTs position, they would have got more audience support.
apathoid
20th October 2007, 02:58 AM
We don't get Bill Maher in Australia AFAIK, two questions:
1. Should I be grateful?
2. Where is he on the political spectrum? Personally helping kick out 9/11 nutters and calling for a**kicking suggests farish right wing.
That said, I agree with earlier posters. If there is really a groundswell supporting CTs position, they would have got more audience support.
He claims to be a moderate, but he's a leftie(gatekeeper).
chatiez
20th October 2007, 04:42 AM
Conspiracy theorists should follow their logic all the way, because in world of CT "truth" movement is clearly elites tool. Its aimed towards anti-war movement, because every time these nutcakes show up and get coverage its away from real anti-war movement. And as "truthers" say theyre most hardcore protesters, anti-war movement gets ridiculed because of them.
They really should "follow the truth" all the way...
Whack01
20th October 2007, 06:47 AM
"And cows disagree with me" LOL
My respect for Maher lept up by a couple powers of 10 when he got up to throw the twerps out.
Vincent Vega
20th October 2007, 06:56 AM
Yes he is a libertarian with a 1960's leftist slant. That said he can be a funny fluck, and I find myself agreeing with him more than not.
kookbreaker
20th October 2007, 07:02 AM
"And cows disagree with me" LOL
.
THere's nothing sadder than a person boing loudly with a tone where he expects everyone to join in, and they don't.
The troofer needs to go to a few baseball games to see how you boo on your own.
A W Smith
20th October 2007, 08:05 AM
gee why didnt 84 percent of the audience speak up? :rolleyes:
Or hell even 4 percent? :dl:
Unsecured Coins
20th October 2007, 08:39 AM
I think they're just trying to make up for the fact that the last time a prominant 9-11 member was on tv, he just sat there.
Drudgewire
20th October 2007, 10:12 AM
Bill Maher referring to security: "Don't be gentle. A* kicking is what's called for"
Reminds me of the guy at the Kerry speech.
Bill definitely needs to invest in a few tasers. :D
technoextreme
20th October 2007, 10:30 AM
We don't get Bill Maher in Australia AFAIK, two questions:
1. Should I be grateful?
2. Where is he on the political spectrum? Personally helping kick out 9/11 nutters and calling for a**kicking suggests farish right wing.
That said, I agree with earlier posters. If there is really a groundswell supporting CTs position, they would have got more audience support.
Im a moderate and quite honestly an A** kicking was defiantly called for in this scenario.
leftysergeant
20th October 2007, 11:21 AM
These guys have all the class of the thugs who bought tickets to Dixie Chicks concerts that they knew would sell out just so they could go in and boo them for sniping at Bush and make it an unpleasant expoerince for the real Chix fans.
They are not about trith or freedom, but about their own egos.
Freedom of speech does not include forcing anyone to listen to your blather.
Totovader
20th October 2007, 11:22 AM
Are the conspiracists able to comprehend that this actually makes them look worse? They're soaking up the attention- but people are laughing at them.
CHF
20th October 2007, 11:32 AM
Apparently the twoofers have given up trying to take down the NWO and are now simply in the business of harassing people who mock them.
What pathetic people.
Drudgewire
20th October 2007, 11:35 AM
I think the reason they take it so personally with Maher is because of his comments early on in the war, calling lobbing missiles more cowardly than staying in an airplane as it crashed into a building. As a result, many of those who later became part of the twoof movement looked to him as a hero early on.
Now, instead of taking a second to think about it sensibly and realize if there was anything tangible to the CT he'd have been on their side long ago, they consider him a turncoat because he doesn't buy into their fantasies even though it vibes with what they fantasize his worldview to be.
More than Gravy, more than the History Channel Special, more than the Popular Mechanics book... Bill Maher's dismissal of their nonsense hits at the very heart of these dumbbells.
leftysergeant
20th October 2007, 11:41 AM
More than Gravy, more than the History Channel Special, more than the Popular Mechanics book... Bill Maher's dismissal of their nonsense hits at the very heart of these dumbbells.
Which is, I guess, to say that he too strongly challenges the twoofers' delusions of adequacy.
Drudgewire
20th October 2007, 11:46 AM
Which is, I guess, to say that he too strongly challenges the twoofers' delusions of adequacy.
Even moreso than when they use a public shower. :D
ConspiRaider
20th October 2007, 12:06 PM
We were right about twoofers getting to mainstream outlets: Each time that happens, their effectiveness is halved.
Always have liked Bill Maher. Now I want his autograph, and his babies (oh wait).
phaed
20th October 2007, 12:07 PM
It's amazing how belligerent these people are getting.
God help us if it gets worse.
Bell
20th October 2007, 12:12 PM
I think the reason they take it so personally with Maher is because of his comments early on in the war, calling lobbing missiles more cowardly than staying in an airplane as it crashed into a building. As a result, many of those who later became part of the twoof movement looked to him as a hero early on.
<snip>
It has to do with his comments regarding the troofers a few weeks ago.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6119365439909250246
Approx 1:47
Drudgewire
20th October 2007, 12:16 PM
It has to do with his comments regarding the troofers a few weeks ago.
Oh I saw that. But lots of talk show hosts make fun of twoofers (I linked a new one just yesterday (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=96463)... note: It takes a minute to upload. Had to convert it to a large .wav file).
My little theory is on why they're taking this particular one a lot more personally.
Bell
20th October 2007, 12:18 PM
Oh I saw that. But lots of talk show hosts make fun of twoofers (I linked a new one just yesterday (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=96463)).
My little theory is on why they're taking this particular one a lot more personally.
Ah, okie! I misunderstood your post.
GreNME
20th October 2007, 12:20 PM
Yes he is a libertarian with a 1960's leftist slant. That said he can be a funny fluck, and I find myself agreeing with him more than not.
This is my assessment of him as well. There are plenty of things I might not agree with him on, but I think he has a sense of practicality that allows for valid disagreement without having to demonize it.
Oliver
20th October 2007, 12:25 PM
So does anyone know who the Truthers were on Bill Maher's
Show? Could it be that these people did the inside job?
BoJJIYWMZlY
They somehow managed to make it look like as if they have a motive. :p
Whack01
20th October 2007, 12:32 PM
Yeah that was about as funny as the "half hour news hour", but not quite. :D
ETA: Find it kinda weired watching that and hearing the laugh track. You just know they had a large audience clapping
and laughing at their jokes :rolleyes: .
GreNME
20th October 2007, 12:41 PM
So does anyone know who the Truthers were on Bill Maher's
Show? Could it be that these people did the inside job?
BoJJIYWMZlY
They somehow managed to make it look like as if they have a motive. :p
Not for nothing, but body language says a lot about their state of mind at the time of making that video. I know it's not very nice and people can get all "ad hominem! ad hominem!" about it, but when producing a rebuttal to a fairly smooth delivery, it's best to use individuals who can at least give the impression that they are comfortable in their own skin. "Twitchy and unable to face the camera" and "hunched over and tense" do not signify comfortable body language, and no matter what the message is comes across as forced.
Ironically, comedians know this and sometimes use it for effect, yet Maher (a comedian) didn't bother to use it.
Blender Head
20th October 2007, 01:09 PM
That was strangely satisfying to see Bill go into the crowd like that.
Oliver
20th October 2007, 01:20 PM
Not for nothing, but body language says a lot about their state of mind at the time of making that video. I know it's not very nice and people can get all "ad hominem! ad hominem!" about it, but when producing a rebuttal to a fairly smooth delivery, it's best to use individuals who can at least give the impression that they are comfortable in their own skin. "Twitchy and unable to face the camera" and "hunched over and tense" do not signify comfortable body language, and no matter what the message is comes across as forced.
Ironically, comedians know this and sometimes use it for effect, yet Maher (a comedian) didn't bother to use it.
I agree with your conclusion - the parody wasn't very convincing,
and not funny at all. The question is why people would waste their
time on Maher or comedians in general instead fighting the NWO. :confused:
Alareth
20th October 2007, 01:33 PM
The question is why people would waste their
time on Maher or comedians in general instead fighting the NWO non-existent paranoid phantoms. :confused:
I fixed your typo ;)
Oliver
20th October 2007, 01:35 PM
I fixed your typo ;)
:D Hey, I love the term "NWO" - no one outside the US ever
heard about it .... Well, at least those who aren't familiar with
US-Conspiracy-Theories...
Thunder
20th October 2007, 01:36 PM
I long..long for the day when the American people will have had enough with these guys and start removing them from public view. We have more important things to worry about then "Building 7".
Plantfoam
20th October 2007, 01:59 PM
Stundie material comment here, from the Maher Paxil video:
He just called everyone an Idiot
"how big of an idiot do you have to be to see two planes filled with jet fuel knocked down 2 steel frame buildings"
Haha god he insults my intelligence..
Hey, good job quote mining on a 2 minute video:boggled:
LostAngeles
20th October 2007, 02:56 PM
What gets me is that the Congresswoman was speaking about something near and dear to my heart (math and science education) with regards to the MRSA infections when they started and hence the entire conversation was lost.
Maybe because Maher said that in a year it killed the equivalent of, "six 9/11s"?
WTF.
NikZeta302
20th October 2007, 11:50 PM
I like how the TROOFERS are clamming that this is against the First Amendment, forgetting that it is only against government interference of free speech.
gumboot
21st October 2007, 12:10 AM
:D Hey, I love the term "NWO" - no one outside the US ever
heard about it .... Well, at least those who aren't familiar with
US-Conspiracy-Theories...
Um... I doubt that very much (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order).
-Gumboot
OldSchool
21st October 2007, 02:17 AM
What gets me is that the Congresswoman was speaking about something near and dear to my heart (math and science education) with regards to the MRSA infections when they started and hence the entire conversation was lost.
Maybe because Maher said that in a year it killed the equivalent of, "six 9/11s"?
WTF.
The Hecklers served there purpose. Bill actually did address the issue even if he played along with the corporate media which pays his salary. First time I've ever seen the issue discussed on cable. Whoever the people in the crowd where, who took the chance during live TV to raise attention, deserve quite a pat on the back.
lionking
21st October 2007, 03:35 AM
The Hecklers served there purpose. Bill actually did address the issue even if he played along with the corporate media which pays his salary. First time I've ever seen the issue discussed on cable. Whoever the people in the crowd where, who took the chance during live TV to raise attention, deserve quite a pat on the back.
No he didn't address "the issue"; he addressed the hecklers. He called them idiots.
Whack01
21st October 2007, 03:48 AM
The Hecklers served there purpose. Bill actually did address the issue even if he played along with the corporate media which pays his salary. First time I've ever seen the issue discussed on cable. Whoever the people in the crowd where, who took the chance during live TV to raise attention, deserve quite a pat on the back.
They were heckling him in response to an earlier show where he actually addressed the issue.
ETA: I think somebody linked to the other show either earlier in the thread or on another thread today.
Brainster
21st October 2007, 04:23 AM
The Hecklers served there purpose. Bill actually did address the issue even if he played along with the corporate media which pays his salary. First time I've ever seen the issue discussed on cable. Whoever the people in the crowd where, who took the chance during live TV to raise attention, deserve quite a pat on the back.
Maher will milk this incident and get some Troofers on the show eventually and turn them into hamburger. Can you imagine Uncle Fetzer against a competent group of researchers and comedy writers?
Bell
21st October 2007, 05:09 AM
<snip> Whoever the people in the crowd where, who took the chance during live TV to raise attention, deserve quite a pat on the back.
For what? Being rude and anoying?
Björn Toulouse
21st October 2007, 06:40 AM
The Hecklers served there purpose. Bill actually did address the issue even if he played along with the corporate media which pays his salary. First time I've ever seen the issue discussed on cable. Whoever the people in the crowd where, who took the chance during live TV to raise attention, deserve quite a pat on the back.
You call that a "discussion"?
Disinfo Agent
21st October 2007, 08:30 AM
What is it that they want to achieve by doing this? Do they really think this has any effect? Mentioning Building 7 in the Mainstream Media will wake people up? If you would make a collection of all the Videos with Conspiracy Theorists appearing on Mainstream Media Channels, it would be a very, VERY long one...
Jonnyclueless
21st October 2007, 08:41 AM
Isn't it funny how a movement that claims to consist of like 70% of the population can only get their message out by interrupting other peoples legitimate broadcasts and can't have thier own TV show?
How sad is that?
MarkyX
21st October 2007, 08:56 AM
I think this clip shows just how disliked these people are. They love to claim that they have the support of the majority and they speak for the people, yet everyone they turn they are often despised or mocked at. Reasons for this? Simple, they don't have the scientific facts behind them and people know this. Hell, there is many truthers out there like Dylan Avery, Chris, and Alex Jones who know they are lying but must ignore the facts to enforce their conclusions.
The way I see it, there is only two ways to believe in the 9/11 Deniers:
a) You don't know the "official story" and only read conspriacy sites. I would say this represents the majority of the movement, as most of them even admit they didn't even look at the NIST report or 9/11 Commission report.
b) You already know what happened but tend to ignore facts that threaten your viewpoint. An example of this is Loose Change with the brief interview with Marcel Bernard. The interview in LC has been spliced and chopped up to the point where Marcel's message became meaningless. The fact is, Marcel Bernard has stated to a newspaper that Hani could've easily pulled it off. Loose Change omits this fact and I guarantee you Dylan did ask Marcel if Hani had the skill to crash into the Pentagon, but he decided NOT to put it on video. Other examples I can cite is the Rolls Royce engine parts, the Flight 93 phone calls, or any of the no-plane theories.
Oliver
21st October 2007, 09:10 AM
This is a video response to 9/11 Truthers infiltrate Bill Maher Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5BJzEshMes)
"9/11 Truthers need a forum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxgyag4w2Ks&mode=related&search=)"
Vxgyag4w2Ks
Totovader
21st October 2007, 09:56 AM
Over at PrisonPlanet, it is claimed that it was "at least 6 members of We Are Change LA", which- I think- is the same group that made the cheesy YouTube response video to Maher.
Quite an injustice occurred, I guess... the security guards taunted one of the innocent moo-woo-people by taking his hat and throwing it. PrisonPlanet really had nothing else to complain about since the conspiracists were clearly in the wrong and it backfired.
Unalienable
21st October 2007, 10:02 AM
The nuts in the audience are FBI agents working undercover. Their mission is to make the 9-11 Truthers look like crackpots.
MarkyX
21st October 2007, 10:06 AM
This is a video response to 9/11 Truthers infiltrate Bill Maher Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5BJzEshMes)
"9/11 Truthers need a forum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxgyag4w2Ks&mode=related&search=)"
Vxgyag4w2Ks
A forum?
it's not like they weren't interviewed by numerous media outlets like CNN, C-Span, Fox News, or the History Channel. Or their videos aren't noticed on Google Video or YouTube. Or protested on a graveyard where two big buildings came down.
Yeah, the truth movement was never given the spotlight. Nobody knows they exist :rolleyes:
EDIT: This guy really loves the Godwin argument.
ANOTHER EDIT: Wow, apparently because nobody likes the truth movement constantly disrupting events and speaking lies, they must angry violent people. This guy really wants to paint these idiots as martyrs and heroes
technoextreme
21st October 2007, 10:49 AM
A forum?
it's not like they weren't interviewed by numerous media outlets like CNN, C-Span, Fox News, or the History Channel. Or their videos aren't noticed on Google Video or YouTube. Or protested on a graveyard where two big buildings came down.
Yeah, the truth movement was never given the spotlight. Nobody knows they exist :rolleyes:
EDIT: This guy really loves the Godwin argument.
ANOTHER EDIT: Wow, apparently because nobody likes the truth movement constantly disrupting events and speaking lies, they must angry violent people. This guy really wants to paint these idiots as martyrs and heroes
He sounds antisemitic unless I'm misinterpreting his argument.
LostAngeles
21st October 2007, 10:58 AM
The Hecklers served there purpose. Bill actually did address the issue even if he played along with the corporate media which pays his salary. First time I've ever seen the issue discussed on cable. Whoever the people in the crowd where, who took the chance during live TV to raise attention, deserve quite a pat on the back.
"discussed?"
I suppose expecting that you watched the show/clip is much like having expected you to have actually researched what happened on 9/11.
You clearly haven't.
Maher's extent of his comments on this was, "You are a nutcase. 'Building 7'. Yeah. You know what that's all about? Of all the things I've said, and believe me I've said a lot of things you all know that can get my head on a block, the one that they protest about out here, is the people who think the World Trade Center was a controlled explosion. Now see, in that instance, I'm actually defending President Bush. I don't think President Bush brought down the World Trade Center. [booing/mooing] And COWS DISAGREE WITH ME."
That's not a discussion. A discussion involves an exchange of ideas. This was a few folks in the audience yelling and time being wasted on throwing them out.
But you know what? Feel free to imagine that you've struck a blow at the NWO by heckling on an HBO TV show. Puff out your chest with pride at what you've, "risked," for the, "truth." Imagine yourself to be a fraction as heroic in the struggle against oppression as Rosa Parks, MLK Jr., Susan B. Anthony, and the Burmese.
Magenta
21st October 2007, 04:02 PM
The nuts in the audience are FBI agents working undercover. Their mission is to make the 9-11 Truthers look like crackpots.
Truthers need help with that?
joobz
21st October 2007, 05:09 PM
When I saw it Friday night, It made me laugh pretty hard. Especially the way he treated them like little children. "You're in the audience. Which is derived from latiin, meaning TO LISTEN." A little smug, but funny.
I would find myself agreeing with Bill a lot more if he abandoned the
"eat meat=evil" thing he does.
BenBurch
21st October 2007, 05:13 PM
I was disappointed that the security people didn't use a taser on that one asshat.
NYCEMT86
21st October 2007, 06:48 PM
NSFW
I don't watch Bill Maher that much, but I just came across this on youtube. I love how Bill has a zero tolerance for these people.
So please enjoy :D
p80hXaM4QgU
Edit: I know I spelled infiltrate wrong...I just woke up about 10 minutes ago
ETA: I found that this subject was brought up here (http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64)
So mods please delete this thread, thank you.
I moved your post and the response to this thread.
yodaluver28
21st October 2007, 07:22 PM
Thanks for posting that, I hadn't seen it or heard about it. I'm not a big Maher fan generally, but that is precisely how to deal with these kooks IMO. Bravo Bill, bravo!
GT/CS
21st October 2007, 07:26 PM
Check out this newscast on Fox News. Wait until the very end when the ladies are discussing the incident. This is a good indication that very few people know about, or care about, WTC7.
www.comcast.net
Click on the "Protesters Attack Bill Maher on Live TV" link
EeneyMinnieMoe
23rd October 2007, 09:46 AM
He told you so about the Paxil. :D
My jaw dropped when I saw that. When was the last time you saw anything like that happen on TV? Way to go, Bill.
Incidentally, he's mocked twoofers in the panel discussions before, in an episode Rob Thomas and PJ O'Rourke were on and when Erica Jong started on 9/11.
sesshin
23rd October 2007, 01:45 PM
Bill must have really gotten to these guys if you think about it. I mean they went through all that trouble to make that video. There was a decent amount of editing involved, bad editing, but it was there. Then they went through all that trouble to hatch a plan and infiltrate the show all guerrilla like. It seems pretty obsessive compulsive to me.
Like others have said, if he really was fighting the NWO his time would probably be better spent elsewhere.
SpaceMonkeyZero
23rd October 2007, 01:58 PM
Bill must have really gotten to these guys if you think about it. I mean they went through all that trouble to make that video. There was a decent amount of editing involved, bad editing, but it was there. Then they went through all that trouble to hatch a plan and infiltrate the show all guerrilla like. It seems pretty obsessive compulsive to me.
Like others have said, if he really was fighting the NWO his time would probably be better spent elsewhere.
He made the mistake of acknowledging them.
They'll taunt him for the rest of his life.
LostAngeles
23rd October 2007, 02:06 PM
He made the mistake of acknowledging them.
They'll taunt him for the rest of his life.
I think it's the other way around.
If they come after him to taunt him, he will take them down and do it in a much funnier way.
BenBurch
23rd October 2007, 02:08 PM
Maybe next time the security guys can have tasers?
Disinfo Agent
23rd October 2007, 02:33 PM
Glenn Beck addresses the incident and interviews Michael Shermer (Skeptics Magazine) and James Meigs (Popular Mechanics)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2007/10/23/beck.911.controversy.cnn?iref=videosearch
Plantfoam
23rd October 2007, 03:09 PM
Glenn Beck addresses the incident and interviews Michael Shermer (Skeptics Magazine) and James Meigs (Popular Mechanics)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2007/10/23/beck.911.controversy.cnn?iref=videosearch
I miss the good Glenn Beck shows, which were mostly in the first 2 months of his premiere on CNN. You know, the ones with the funny immigration and middle east cartoons and all. Now his shows are just constant fear mongering over Iran, and interviews with biblical scholars about end time prophecy.
Drudgewire
23rd October 2007, 03:14 PM
O&A dedicated two segments to the Maher stuff yesterday, but since they're not as well-versed on some of it there were times when I wanted to reach through the radio and answer for them.
Upside they had a first responder from the Pentagon and a WTC survivor call in to rip the twoofer callers to shreds.
I'll see if I can get an upload. Much longer than the few sentences they gave to CTs Friday, and Norton will have you cheering.
dudalb
23rd October 2007, 03:15 PM
I miss the good Glenn Beck shows, which were mostly in the first 2 months of his premiere on CNN. You know, the ones with the funny immigration and middle east cartoons and all. Now his shows are just constant fear mongering over Iran, and interviews with biblical scholars about end time prophecy.
Yeah, I have had it with Beck also...who I used to enjoy as being an intelligent spokesman for the conservative point of view.and as the one Conservative TV guy who did not think that Bush walked on water.
I think Iran is going to be a major,major,problem,and I disagree with those who think it is all Bush Fearmongering,but Beck is really,really,over the top.The same with his paranoia on the immigration issue.
And his conzening up to the alleged "end time scholars" would be enough to turn me off.
dudalb
23rd October 2007, 03:18 PM
The Hecklers served there purpose. Bill actually did address the issue even if he played along with the corporate media which pays his salary. First time I've ever seen the issue discussed on cable. Whoever the people in the crowd where, who took the chance during live TV to raise attention, deserve quite a pat on the back.
Yeah,they made themselves look like total idiots on nationwide TV.Brilliant move.
Old School seems to be living in his own little reality.
Drudgewire
23rd October 2007, 03:21 PM
Yeah,they made themselves look like total idiots on nationwide TV.Brilliant move.
Well, considering they've mainly been making themselves look like total idiots on the Internet for the last six years this is a giant leap forward. :p
A W Smith
23rd October 2007, 05:32 PM
O&A dedicated two segments to the Maher stuff yesterday, but since they're not as well-versed on some of it there were times when I wanted to reach through the radio and answer for them.
Upside they had a first responder from the Pentagon and a WTC survivor call in to rip the twoofer callers to shreds.
I'll see if I can get an upload. Much longer than the few sentences they gave to CTs Friday, and Norton will have you cheering.
Actually Jum Norton is pretty well versed. That was the impression I got from the old Kory Rowe / Jason bermas hand off phone call
Drudgewire
23rd October 2007, 05:35 PM
Actually Jum Norton is pretty well versed. That was the impression I got from the old Kory Rowe / Jason bermas hand off phone call
He was until they got to Flight 93, then they all blanked before Ant suddenly remembered missiles would result in wreckage over a much greater distance, and none of them were aware of the "mystery plane."
They also mentioned the show with the Loose Change guys on and buried them for being idiots who basically were tossed out of the studio before Norton EXPLODED on the whole movement being spoiled brats. I'd love to hear a replay of LC show.
I'll upload it.
Drudgewire
23rd October 2007, 06:15 PM
Here you go:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/440537977bfe0f/
It's a 40 MB file (hour of the show), so if it doesn't start playing immediately click the "download" button above the video screen to get the file.
Fair warning: Although this is from the FM side of the show it's dubbed from XM so a couple of dirty words from callers get through. Also for those who aren't fans, they go off on a completely unrelated tangent from about 9:40 - 16:00 which can be skipped without missing any of the discussion.
Norton's "spoiled brat" rant is pretty early in the clip, but he gives a more impassioned one later on. :)
ryanebelhar
23rd October 2007, 10:30 PM
on the Real Time Overtime podcast that Bill Maher does, someone wrote in "Thanks for being a bad ass and kicking those guys off the show" and the whole crowd started cheering.
Then the question asked if radical liberalism could be as dangerous as radical conservatism, and he said yes.
DevilsAdvocate
23rd October 2007, 11:06 PM
You SHEPLE!! The attack wasn’t really from Truthers. It was all planned by George W. Bush and the NWO! Duh!
LISTEN CLOSELY. The “voices from the audience” are OBVIOUSLY overdubbed and could not have possibly actually come from someone in the audience.
Here’s a good question. Why was there no immediate camera shot of the audience? Huh? They could have EASILY moved the camera to the audience IMMEDIATELY? Perhaps because the black ops needed a little more time to prepare the set-up. I think you can even see them trying to finish the set-up when the camera pans over to them.
IT’S A FAKE! All the shots of the people being thrown out were out of context and didn’t look like the actual “Real Time” set. And why did it take so long for security to get to the hecklers. This is a controversial LIVE television show. OF COURSE they have LOADS of security all over the place that can handle anything at anytime. CLEAR EVIDENCE OF FRAUD. If it was real, Maher could have prevented it or had it taken care of in a jiffy. But HE DID NOT. He was in on it. Maher Let It Happen On Purpose (MLIHOP)! The Bush NWO set it up and Maher did it for ratings. How can you not see that?
And if you look at the lint on the floor in frame 7324 you will see that…
:D
Drudgewire
24th October 2007, 05:41 AM
Then the question asked if radical liberalism could be as dangerous as radical conservatism, and he said yes.
The good ones on either side are those who realize this.
CptColumbo
24th October 2007, 11:03 AM
on the Real Time Overtime podcast that Bill Maher does, someone wrote in "Thanks for being a bad ass and kicking those guys off the show" and the whole crowd started cheering.
Then the question asked if radical liberalism could be as dangerous as radical conservatism, and he said yes.It's not on iTunes or the HBO site yet, where did you hear it?
EeneyMinnieMoe
24th October 2007, 11:06 AM
Yes it is but here it is on You Tube anyway:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_7T2YEx2snM
nicepants
24th October 2007, 11:52 AM
Yay Bill!!
Surely this is the work of the "We Are Change Idiots" morons. Aren't they the ones who posted that rebuttal video after Maher's segment?
You are correct, sir, found the crybaby article was also submitted to Digg:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/201007truthers.htm
My favorite line by Bill: "...and cows disagree with me"
SpaceMonkeyZero
24th October 2007, 12:51 PM
Here you go:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/440537977bfe0f/
It's a 40 MB file (hour of the show), so if it doesn't start playing immediately click the "download" button above the video screen to get the file.
Fair warning: Although this is from the FM side of the show it's dubbed from XM so a couple of dirty words from callers get through. Also for those who aren't fans, they go off on a completely unrelated tangent from about 9:40 - 16:00 which can be skipped without missing any of the discussion.
Norton's "spoiled brat" rant is pretty early in the clip, but he gives a more impassioned one later on. :)
02:00 to 02:16 sums it up perfectly. (I assume that's Norton? I'm not a O&A fan)
Drudgewire
24th October 2007, 01:37 PM
02:00 to 02:16 sums it up perfectly.
Yeah that's Norton. His new HBO special is amazingly awesome.
I'd love to come up to one of those doofs screaming into a bullhorn and hit play on a boom box with that on a continuous loop.
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