LCF: NFL Player Reports Flight 93 "Diverted"...

[Good Lt]

Another TEH SMOKNG GuN!? (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18259)

The link in question quoted in the LCF post, from a Fayettevile newspaper, doesn't work for some reason.

[Clayton] White will always cherish the memories of suiting up on Sundays and playing side by side with the likes of All-Pro defensive end Michael Strahan and linebacker Jesse Armstead.

"But the most lasting memory of White’s time in New York had nothing to do with football."

“We had played a Monday night game in Denver, and flew back home the next morning,’’ White said. “We landed in Newark, N.J., about 6:45 in the morning. We usually get off the plane on the tarmac and board a bus to get to our cars.

“I noticed another plane sitting next to ours because the people were walking to the plane across the tarmac instead of through the jetway.

“Two weeks later, as we’re taking another plane to a game, one of the stewardesses informed us the plane that had been boarding next to us was Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11. That was a very eerie feeling."

And our Troofer bud attempts to posit "what really happened" in light of this revelation:

Is it possible the debris/people/stuff found inside the hole in shanksville was planted there and then blow up?

I usually stick to the passenger revolt/small bomb going off angle rather than the shootdown or this stuff, its very odd.

Thank goodness. Because for a second there, I thought that you might be really kooky.

:hit:

[leftysergeant]

Very odd, in deed. Does it prove something?

[firecoins]

no

[MetalliSociety]

What did that post have to prove? Maybe in kooksville it shows that it's proof that they landed in Cleveland...even though it was in NJ...i'm sure they could find a way with their quote butchering skills to make it scream conspiracy.

[Drudgewire]

That would be very odd... if you're talking to someone who never flies. ESPECIALLY at that time of the morning you walk across the tarmac all the time to and from your plane.

I'd nominate it for a Stundie except I'm not quite sure what the guy is even trying to suggest. :boggled:

[Brainster]

Two obvious problems with the story:

1. Why would people be boarding Flight 93, which was scheduled to take off around 8:00 (it was delayed), at 6:45?

2. How common is it for commercial flights to board from the tarmac at Newark? I have flown into and out of Newark many times and always boarded from a jetway.

ETA: One thing checks out; the Giants did play in Denver (http://www.pdaschedule.com/avantgo/content/show_nfl_monday_night_football.asp?sd=4&tz=1&season=2001) the night before 9-11.

[The_Fire]

Hell, I've flown out of Heathrow and had to board the connecting flight to Denmark on/from (?) the tarmak since the jetty at the gate didn't fit the aircraft door........

Oh, right the point: If it's done at Heathrow, then it's done elsewhere and the background doesn't have to be sinister.

[Myriad]

That would be very odd... if you're talking to someone who never flies. ESPECIALLY at that time of the morning you walk across the tarmac all the time to and from your plane.

2. How common is it for commercial flights to board from the tarmac at Newark? I have flown into and out of Newark many times and always boarded from a jetway.


My experience is that when the earliest flights in the morning are preparing to depart, a lot of planes are parked in preparation for the rush of early-departing morning flights. There can be more upcoming scheduled flights than gates. That means some must board from the tarmac, and of course those that do so have to be the earliest-departing ones, since those planes have to be out of the way for the planes at the gates to depart.

But, I can't say for sure that that would likely be the case at that particular airport on that particular day. The story seems neither especially likely, nor especially implausible, on that basis.

Respectfully,
Myriad

[T.A.M.]

Talk about classic "leaps"...JHC.

There is so much wrong with the OP article/story, I do not know where to begin, but obviously, OBVIOUSLY, someone was in err.

TAM:)

[Magenta]

This paragraph seems ambiguous to me:


“Two weeks later, as we’re taking another plane to a game, one of the stewardesses informed us the plane that had been boarding next to us was Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11. That was a very eerie feeling."


Was the flight attendant talking about Flight 93 on 9/11 or Flight 93 two weeks later? When did United change the flight numbers for 93 and 175?

Just Asking Questions! :)

[jhunter1163]

Don't most NFL teams have chartered planes now? If so, perhaps it was the same stewardess, and she said something to White two weeks later because she knew him. Does that seem possible/reasonable?

ETA: I'm picturing a conversation like this:

Stewardess: Hey, Clayton. Remember when we flew in from Denver before?

White: Yeah?

Stewardess: That plane that was boarding next to us was Flight 93. One of the ones that went down on 9/11.

White: Holy (rule10). That's heavy.

[njslim]

Regularly read (and post) on ABOVE TOP SECRET site, trying to bring some sanity into
the loons who frequent there. Looks like the insanity starts at the LOOSE CHANGE
FORUM (LCF) and spreads out from there.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

“Two weeks later, as we’re taking another plane to a game, one of the stewardesses informed us the plane that had been boarding next to us was Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11. That was a very eerie feeling."

Was the stewardess telling a fact or a massaged story; as people are apt to do?

Most people like to talk and tell stories.

[Magenta]

I see the LCFers are applying the full weight of their investigative skills to this matter. I'm sure it'll be cleared up in no time.

[Henry Crun]

Poor Clayton White.

I imagine he will be spammed this weekend with dozens of "9/11 was an inside job" and "speak out for the truth and you will be our hero"-mails.
If he doesn´t react at once and commit himself to the twoof he will be spammed a lot more.

If he doesn´t want to be spammed any more and says so he will be visited by guys with bullhorns and self-painted signs trying a little harder to form his opinion.

If he doesn´t like bullhorn-politics and calls them "nuts" he is a "coward" and a "liar", maybe disinfo or payed off by the gouvernment.
Maybe he even gets the lonely-cow-noises Bill Maher had to take.

Poor Clayton White.