Lunacy never escapes London

[Undesired Walrus]

Went to see the new Nelson Mandela statue yesterday outside parliament. Saw Brain Haw (Anti-war protestor who has slept outside parliament since 2001), saw all the anti-Iraq War banners, but sadly, saw

INVESTIGATE 9/11

chalked on both the road and the pavement outside the gates. Truthers dont have the guts of Brian Haw to spread their moronic message so clearly had to do it at night when the police wouldn't arrest them.

[mailman]

Brian Haw is a parasitic peice of scum...so its not surprising 9/11 fundies have found a home near his protest.

Mailman

[sophia8]

Brian Haw is a parasitic peice of scum...so its not surprising 9/11 fundies have found a home near his protest.

MailmanCan you justify that statement?
I don't believe you can. Who or what is he parasiting off, for a start?

In any case, the OP was making the point that Haw has kept a permanent 24/7 protest in Parliament Square for years, getting laughed at, harrassed and arrested; in contrast, the Twoofers bravely sneaked in their protest under the cover of night.
Whatever you think of Haw (I personally think he's not actually doing a lot of good), he at least has the courage of his convictions.

[JAStewart]

I don't think Haw is a piece of scum at all.

He stood up for something he believed in.

[lordofwaffles]

I can respect someone who's willing to suffer and go through discomfort for their beliefs. It shows some level of conviction and devotion, so even if I don't agree with what they have to say, I can respect their commitment.

However, most of the anti-war folks I've dealt with are the ones sent running by a slight rain, or a stiff breeze. The 9-11 ones are below comment, as they'll flee like cockroaches once they've tagged something with a stencil, or hastily scribbled in chalk a shallow ill researched comment.

I have to imagine them as some juvenile, convinced they're the vanguard of the oncoming revolution, that their message will spur on the masses, and once the gates are being stormed, they can step forward as one of the true heroes of the people.

As, after all, it's a most juvenile of delusions, and I'd like to think youth can be saved by education and maturity. The idea of someone past the age of 17 or so doing such a thing frightens me, in that they've seen all logic and education has to offer, and they're rejected it so mightily to live in a well of their own woo.

[peteweaver]

Can you justify that statement?
I don't believe you can. Who or what is he parasiting off, for a start?

In any case, the OP was making the point that Haw has kept a permanent 24/7 protest in Parliament Square for years, getting laughed at, harrassed and arrested; in contrast, the Twoofers bravely sneaked in their protest under the cover of night.
Whatever you think of Haw (I personally think he's not actually doing a lot of good), he at least has the courage of his convictions.

Here here. I saw him protesting outside Parliament last year, very courageous of him, AND the government tried to get rid of him (and incase any conspiracists come across my point, by get rid of, I mean move him along, so that he couldn't wave banners at MP's)

Brian Haw, is not having much effect against the war, but at least his heart is in the right place, and when he says something, he has a point.

[fuelair]

I don't think Haw is a piece of scum at all.

He stood up for something he believed in.

So did Hitler. Standing up for what you believe in is only a good thing if you believe in something deserving of being stood up for.:)

[brodski]

So did Hitler. Standing up for what you believe in is only a good thing if you believe in something deserving of being stood up for.:)

Except there is also the little matter of methods. Haw stood up for what he believed in by having a peaceful protests outside the palace of Westminster. Hitler did so through genocide.

UW, whereabouts where these messages chalked? I walked past St Stephens entrance at around 7 last night and didn't notice anything.

[Undesired Walrus]

I don't agree with Haw on a lot of things. I don't like his absolutism.

But the man has dignity.

Anybody who calls him scum are welcome to park up next to him and voice another viewpoint, but they never do. Funny huh?

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[Undesired Walrus]

UW, whereabouts where these messages chalked? I walked past St Stephens entrance at around 7 last night and didn't notice anything.

On the other side of the road to Haw, near the traffic lights going toward Westminster tube. There was one in the middle of the road, faded, then a clear one on the pavement.

[brodski]

On the other side of the road to Haw, near the traffic lights going toward Westminster tube. There was one in the middle of the road, faded, then a clear one on the pavement.

I must not have looked down at the right time :)

[Undesired Walrus]

This was on Sunday mind.

I'm sure over 2-3 million people walking over it may have had some effect in 4 days.:)

[brodski]

This was on Sunday mind.

I'm sure over 2-3 million people walking over it may have had some effect in 4 days.:)

Ah, I assumed it was last night, for some strange reason.

[mailman]

Can you justify that statement?
I don't believe you can. Who or what is he parasiting off, for a start?

He lives off the goodwill of the people and the state and contributes nothing back to society, which he takes so much from.

In another time he would have been landed with his true and proper label, a traitor. But now its the fashionable thing to get in and support terrorists and those other organisations which are trying to destroy us.

He is biased, one sided and nor particularly capable of holding a decent conversation (I have tried speaking to him a couple times (and I was very civil) but you dare challenge his views and he shows his true colours).

Most weekends I walk passed his demonstration to be greated by malnurished children, anti-israel propoganda and a various collection of pro-terrorist imagery.

Its only because of the Governments shear incompetence that he is still where is, which incidentantally is a pretty good indication that the government in no way shape or form could have carried out the bombings on the underground!

He is a twoofer through and through. Just because he has been there for a number of years doesnt give him any more credibility than those morons over at LCF.

Whatever you think of Haw (I personally think he's not actually doing a lot of good), he at least has the courage of his convictions.
You can say this of anyone, especially Dylan and co...but that doesnt make it right though does it?

Mailman

[mailman]

Anybody who calls him scum are welcome to park up next to him and voice another viewpoint, but they never do. Funny huh?

I dont do it probably because I have a job and family to support!

I have spoken to him a number of times, always curteous, BUT dare challenge his views and you see the true man coming through (its funny how these people are all against big brother or "the man" YET dont have any problams what so ever wanting to silence your views of they challenge theirs).

Mailman

[quixotecoyote]

The one good thing about the current condition is that the dissent=terrorism foolishness lets you know who not to bother with quicker.

[gumboot]

I have spoken to him a number of times, always curteous, BUT dare challenge his views and you see the true man coming through (its funny how these people are all against big brother or "the man" YET dont have any problams what so ever wanting to silence your views of they challenge theirs).


Could you elaborate a little more on your experience talking to him?

-Gumboot

[Undesired Walrus]

He lives off the goodwill of the people and the state and contributes nothing back to society, which he takes so much from.

In another time he would have been landed with his true and proper label, a traitor. But now its the fashionable thing to get in and support terrorists and those other organisations which are trying to destroy us.

He is biased, one sided and nor particularly capable of holding a decent conversation (I have tried speaking to him a couple times (and I was very civil) but you dare challenge his views and he shows his true colours).

Most weekends I walk passed his demonstration to be greated by malnurished children, anti-israel propoganda and a various collection of pro-terrorist imagery.

Its only because of the Governments shear incompetence that he is still where is, which incidentantally is a pretty good indication that the government in no way shape or form could have carried out the bombings on the underground!



M...Mr Griffin?

[Undesired Walrus]

I dont do it probably because I have a job and family to support!

So did he.

Hear his family complaining? Because isn't that their business what their father does, not yours?

More to the point, do you hear his supporters who allow him to 'live.. off the goodwill of the people' complain about having to march down to the local WH Smiths and buy a can of ripe melons? You'd almost think that.. gosh, they take pleasure in doing such a heinous act. I'd be interested in knowing how he lives 'off the state' too.

If Dylan Avery or WeAreChange gave up 6 years of their life by camping outside for what they believed in, I'd admire their courage and diginity. They just never do, which is the point of my original post about their undignified and coward-like nature.

Nobody, and I mean nobody in the truth movement has the courage of their convictions.

[sophia8]

Its only because of the Governments shear incompetence that he is still where is, which incidentantally is a pretty good indication that the government in no way shape or form could have carried out the bombings on the underground!He is sitting there, with his posters and pictures. He's not getting in anyone's way, he's not shouting at people, he's not going out to harm people. You are perfectly free to ignore him as you walk past.
Why precisely should the Government clear him away?

[mailman]

Could you elaborate a little more on your experience talking to him?

-Gumboot

The last time I spoke to him was on Waitangi Day, when his protest was swamped by about a million drunk kiwis looking to have a good time (I wasnt drunk by the way:)).

Look, he is a nice guy, there is no two ways about it. But as soon as I asked where he was on september 11 or asked what he did to protest Zimbabwe's continued human rights abuses or what protests he organised over the various attrocities committed in Rowanda he got quite sarky and fell in to the true twoofer mentality that shouting louder means you win a discussion.

In fact, when I raised Zimbabwe his only come back was to rant on about Palestine, when I raised Rowanda he ranted on about the great satan america and their evil doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. When I asked him about 9/11 he ranted on about america getting what it had coming!

About 2 minutes in to his rant he was joined by a couple other "pro-peace" activists and probably the only thing that stopped the situation getting out of hand was the number of kiwis there having a good time.

Mailman

[mailman]

So did he.

Hear his family complaining? Because isn't that their business what their father does, not yours?

Its MY business when its my god damn taxes that pay for him to suck society dry!

More to the point, do you hear his supporters who allow him to 'live..
Yeah hello...supporters...of course they arent going to complain!

You'd almost think that.. gosh, they take pleasure in doing such a heinous act. I'd be interested in knowing how he lives 'off the state' too.


Of course he gets pleasure out of doing what he does. All you have to do is see him in action to know he loves sitting there, contributing nothing to society and sucking it dry for all he can take...knowing full well the Government is so incompetent that they cant even pass laws stopping him! :D

If Dylan Avery or WeAreChange gave up 6 years of their life by camping outside for what they believed in, I'd admire their courage and diginity. They just never do, which is the point of my original post about their undignified and coward-like nature.

Dont kid yourself. Avery and co are cut from the same cloth as this moron. In fact, if Im not mistaken, this guy has probably received a hell of a lot LESS heat than Avery has.

Actually, the very fact Avery and co are still doing what they are doing is exactly the same as what this guy does and if you want to take this through to its conclusion...Avery and co should receive just as much admiration from you as you give the Brian.

Nobody, and I mean nobody in the truth movement has the courage of their convictions.
Absolute rubbush...however because its the "in thing" to be anti-bush, anti-anything to do with america and anti-anything to do with the west then this guy suddenly gets ligitimacy Avery and co can only ever hope for.

In fact, as soon as Brian allowed himself to be associated with that other traiter (the black guy who tells a good story about the tavistock bus bombing, even though it appears he may not have even been there...you know the one, who outed his girl friend as a MI5 spy and so on :D).

Brian is a twoofer, that you have conveniently wrapped up in a cloud of legitimacy because of his anti-bush and anti-war beliefs.

Mailman

[brodski]

Its MY business when its my god damn taxes that pay for him to suck society dry!


Can you explain how he is such a great burden on the taxpayer?

[Ocelot]

Can you explain how he is such a great burden on the taxpayer?

Well Mailman's had multiple opportuities to explain this and has passed them up. I'd guess he can't.

[Sergio Agüero]

Opposing government policy makes you a traitor now?

Interesting view.

[mailman]

Well Mailman's had multiple opportuities to explain this and has passed them up. I'd guess he can't.

Unlike Avery and co, this guy relies on the state for support of not only himself but his family.

Now, imagine the outcry if Avery relied on the state to support his addiction to outing the Government? There would be holey jihad if Avery and co sucked society dry while expecting the government to support their crusade against the "lies" they believe the Government has been telling about 9/11.

The moment this guy allowed himself to be associated with the "london bombing" conspiracists was the moment this guys true colours came through.

The only thing that saves this guy from the same redicule that AVery and co receive for their beliefs is the fact that people like you support his anti-bush/anti-anything to do with the west views.

Now, seeing as its my hard earned tax dollars that ensures this guy doesnt have to work a day in his life to support him and his family...I reckon Im bloody well entitled to have an opinion about his moronic protest.

This guy is a fair weather protester and no doubt would have fitted in quite well with Nevil Chamberlain back in 39 when he waved his little peice of paper around proclaiming peace in our time.

Mailman

[geni]

Now, seeing as its my hard earned tax dollars that ensures this guy doesnt have to work a day in his life to support him and his family...I reckon Im bloody well entitled to have an opinion about his moronic protest.

Given the current value of the dollar against the pound you are only allowed 0.48 of an opinion


This guy is a fair weather protester and no doubt would have fitted in quite well with Nevil Chamberlain back in 39 when he waved his little peice of paper around proclaiming peace in our time.


Err that would have been 1938 and since responded to the peace by starting the biggest rearming program in british history somewhat doubtful.

[brodski]

Unlike Avery and co, this guy relies on the state for support of not only himself but his family.


You seem to be saying that Haw is in receipt of benefits. can you tell me which ones? They cannot be work related benefits, as he does not make himself available for work, which leaves the only other major category which is disability related benefits. If they are non means tested disability related benefits then it's frankly none of your business what he does whilst he is in receipt of them if he has medical evidence in support of his claim.
. The fact that he is protesting in no way makes him more eligible for those benefits- an makes him uneligabel for many.,
So I ask again, in what way is Haw acting in a parasitic manner?

[Undesired Walrus]

Do you have any evidence his family rely off benefits because of what he is doing?

He's an old man, if his children are recieving benefits, it is most likely completly unrelated to him, as they are likely grown men.

[Ocelot]

Unlike Avery and co, this guy relies on the state for support of not only himself but his family.

Well that's not so much explaining your claim as repeating it.

What manner of support does he receive?

[peteweaver]

Went to see the new Nelson Mandela statue yesterday outside parliament. Saw Brain Haw (Anti-war protestor who has slept outside parliament since 2001), saw all the anti-Iraq War banners, but sadly, saw

INVESTIGATE 9/11

chalked on both the road and the pavement outside the gates. Truthers dont have the guts of Brian Haw to spread their moronic message so clearly had to do it at night when the police wouldn't arrest them.

I think one of the people behind that chalked message happens to be a member of 'we are change' who posts on the conspiracy theories section of the Mark Thomas forums.

http://markthomasinfo.com/forum

And his views are not too well regarded there.

[sophia8]

The moment this guy allowed himself to be associated with the "london bombing" conspiracists was the moment this guys true colours came through.
How about a reference for that? Rachel North (http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/2006/12/parliament-square-socpa-test-case.html) supports his protest, and she isn't exactly a CTer.

The only thing that saves this guy from the same redicule that AVery and co receive for their beliefs is the fact that people like you support his anti-bush/anti-anything to do with the west views.So I'm anti-Bush, anti-American, anti-anything-to-do-with-the West am I....? Shhesh, how would I possibly have realised that without you telling me, oh wise one?
Now, seeing as its my hard earned tax dollars that ensures this guy doesnt have to work a day in his life to support him and his family...I reckon Im bloody well entitled to have an opinion about his moronic protest.If you get paid in dollars, you're not paying anything towards whatever benefits he gets. So stop flapping about it.

This guy is a fair weather protester
Spending every day and night for the last six years camping in in a London street is your notion of a "fair weather protester"?

You are not compelled to stop and talk to him, he's not spending any of your money, he's not engaged in spreading lies. Just why are you so bothered about him?

[mailman]

Given the current value of the dollar against the pound you are only allowed 0.48 of an opinion

Seeing as Im a glass half full kinda guy I reckon my opinion is actually worth $1.98 to the pound :p

Err that would have been 1938 and since responded to the peace by starting the biggest rearming program in british history somewhat doubtful.

OMG...you arent blaming incompentent Neville for starting WWII are you? :jaw-dropp

Mailman

[mailman]

. The fact that he is protesting in no way makes him more eligible for those benefits- an makes him uneligabel for many.,
So I ask again, in what way is Haw acting in a parasitic manner?

If this guy is well enough to protest...he is well enough to work...you know, sorta contribute to the society he is sucking dry with his pathetic little protest.

You know its rather funny...you guys detest those who protest down at ground zero YET you hoist Brian up on a pedestal simply because he has views you like to associate with (hatred of GW).

Its good to see hypocrisy is alive and well.

Mailman

[mailman]

How about a reference for that? Rachel North (http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/2006/12/parliament-square-socpa-test-case.html) supports his protest, and she isn't exactly a CTer.

No, but unlike you I have met the guy and he is a twoofer through and through. From the anti-israel rants to the "GW is the devil incarnate", he is cut from the same cloth as Avery and co.

And you should actually read the link you posted. She supports his right to protest, that is it. She doesnt say she supports him or believes he is the second coming of [insert which ever diety you believe in here], no she supports his right to peaceful protest.

Dont try and legitimise his protest by comparing him to Rachel.

And as soon as he allowed his platform to be stinked up by that traitor (you know, the black geezer who has serious doubts about whether he was even at Tavistock or not) was the moment his real colours came through.

So I'm anti-Bush, anti-American, anti-anything-to-do-with-the West am I....? Shhesh, how would I possibly have realised that without you telling me, oh wise one?Sheesh, its lucky I told you isnt it...otherwise you would have never known! :p

If you get paid in dollars, you're not paying anything towards whatever benefits he gets. So stop flapping about it. Peow, peow...this is exactly the same kind of symantic arguement twoogers use! Never mind the fact Im not "native" English, which of course means I would use a quote from a country that uses dollars instead of pounds. Gee, talk about Larry Silverstein Pull It Syndrom! :jaw-dropp

Spending every day and night for the last six years camping in in a London street is your notion of a "fair weather protester"?So give Avery and co the same slack, after all...they have been "protesting" in their own way for the same amount of time.

You are not compelled to stop and talk to him, he's not spending any of your money, he's not engaged in spreading lies. Just why are you so bothered about him?Really..what part of my, ahem, tax pound isnt he spending? Of course those arent my pounds at work cleaning up his stinking cesspit is it?

And as for not having to talk to him...for fecks sake, I have to go past his pathetic protest with my children every weekend, its hard not to be impacted by this guys moronic biased views.

You can love him, but dont be a hypocrite as Avery and co are exactly the same as this guy.

Mailman

[Undesired Walrus]

So give Avery and co the same slack, after all...they have been "protesting" in their own way for the same amount of time.

No. He has been protesting every day and night in one location since summer 2001, 6 years, up to his neck in all sorts of London weather. Avery spred his film in 2004, and has only been to ground zero on the September 11th of each year, for a few hours. That makes it on my watch only 3 years, with probably only about 10 hours clocked up in 'protesting'. Therefore, absolutely nothing like Haw.

Care to try again?

Really..what part of my, ahem, tax pound isnt he spending? Of course those arent my pounds at work cleaning up his stinking cesspit is it?

Really? Have you come across any evidence that it puts a burden on the street cleaner and thus the city council to clear up after him?

And as for not having to talk to him...for fecks sake, I have to go past his pathetic protest with my children every weekend, its hard not to be impacted by this guys moronic biased views.

You are clearly lying, ignorant, or both. About 95% of the time he is simply sitting there with (Mostly not his) the signs, peacefully protesting. I have bearly heard him raise his voice. And I go past Parliament a lot more than you, I can bet you.

You can love him, but dont be a hypocrite as Avery and co are exactly the same as this guy.

No.

So, for the third time, what evidence do you have he is claiming jobseekers allowance, income support, or any other type of service that drains your fragile account?

[Undesired Walrus]

If this guy is well enough to protest...he is well enough to work...you know, sorta contribute to the society he is sucking dry with his pathetic little protest.


Man, that is one big mouth he has then, sucking up all that water? Slurp slurp slurp. Mmm, tasty. It is lucky he has such a good pipeline from the river of wealth, he could do with a shower. I'm sure the nation is crippled to the core that they are lacking one less carpenter.

How about the very real possibility that it drives in tons of tourism, from people who share similar views to him? I think even you would have a hard time denying his protest is a positive on the economy as a tourist attraction.

And by the way, I share hardly any of his views. I am not a 'hater' of GW. I don't approve, but I would neither call him a war criminal. I simply guess I must have tougher skin than you, and a stronger support for liberty and human dignity.

[brodski]

If this guy is well enough to protest...he is well enough to work...you know, sorta contribute to the society he is sucking dry with his pathetic little protest. and you have evidence that he's on benefits do you?

And better medical evidence that the DWP, who I can tell you, are far from lenient in allowing people who are fit to work to stay on benefits. So please, just support your accusations.


You know its rather funny...you guys detest those who protest down at ground zero YET you hoist Brian up on a pedestal simply because he has views you like to associate with (hatred of GW).
Tell you what, why don't you, instead of attacking other posters here, just support your repeated allegations. In any way shape or form other than just endlessly reasserting you position, argumentum ad nausisum as it were. I'm presuming that you do have some kind of evidence for your claims, don't you?

[Rolfe]

I've seen the guy, but I don't know how old he is, or what he eats, or even how often he leaves his post to eat. Nor do I know what is paying for the sandwiches or whatever.

So how about it. How about some evidence that he's sponging in any way at all.

In 1993 (I think it was) when the protest started at the gates of what was then assumed to be the intended venue for the Scottish parliament, I was so impressed by the dedication of the people who vowed to stay there until we really did have our own parliament, that I set up a monthly standing order to help support them. Other people did the same, and the protest was able to keep going for four whole years, summer and winter. It was a very happy day, the day after the 1997 referendum result, when I was able to visit them and see the protest being dismantled, and asked what I should do about the standing order. Better cancel it, they said, with a grin.

How do we know this chap isn't being supported by a similar band of admirers?

Rolfe.

[hellaeon]

He has been there that long? As an observer of this thread has he actually achieved anything?

[Ocelot]

I see so we'er not claiming he's on benefits, he's sucking your tax pounds dry because people have to clean up after him?

Clean what up?

How much does this actually cost the London Borough of Westminster. Do you actually pay council tax in Westminster?

[Rolfe]

Cleaning up after him?

The Proms queue probably generates more work.

Rolfe.

[peteweaver]

Incase some of you didn't know, Britain has a long history of anti war & human rights protests.

CND, Greenham common women, Lindis Percy, Walter Wolfgang, campaign against the arms trade, the corner house, etc.

Brian Haw is not alone.

What disgusts me greatly is when truth denying conspiracy theorists, try associating themselves with respectable anti war and human rights protests to try and give themselves more credibility.

[Rolfe]

He has been there that long?


How long? My reference to 1993 was regarding another round-the-clock sit-in protest in Scotland.

Rolfe.

[Matthew Best]

How long?

Six years was the time mentioned.

[brodski]

Six years was the time mentioned.

He's been there since the 2nd of June 2001, originally protesting against sanctions imposed on Iraq.

[Brainster]

Haw is a 9-11 nutter:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-TxWaP2g80

I may disagree with the antiwar protesters like Haw, but I still defend their right to protest.

[mailman]

No. He has been protesting every day and night in one location since summer 2001, 6 years, up to his neck in all sorts of London weather. Avery spred his film in 2004, and has only been to ground zero on the September 11th of each year, for a few hours. That makes it on my watch only 3 years, with probably only about 10 hours clocked up in 'protesting'. Therefore, absolutely nothing like Haw.

Care to try again?

Oh sorry, my bad. I guess in about 4 years they will have been protesting about the Governments cover up of 9/11. Will that mean its ok for Avery and co? Will they suddenly become "legit" and worthy of your admiration then?

Really? Have you come across any evidence that it puts a burden on the street cleaner and thus the city council to clear up after him?
The last police operation to clean up his cesspit cost in excess of £100,000. That money could have paid for a doctor to treat sick children, three teachers to teach those sick kids, 4 council workers to clean the streets of those sick kids as they go to school...but no, the Met had to squander £100,000 on this moron.

You are clearly lying, ignorant, or both. About 95% of the time he is simply sitting there with (Mostly not his) the signs, peacefully protesting. I have bearly heard him raise his voice. And I go past Parliament a lot more than you, I can bet you.

Hmmmmmm, you accuse me of being a liar even though you have absolutely no idea who I am or what I do? Yet some how because my opinion challenges your beliefs suddenly Im a liar?

Thats awefully twoofer of you! :p

You may go past Parliament Square a lot more than me but clearly you have never challenge Brians views or asked him why he is a fair weather protester because if you had you would know he is a twoofer through and through.

I mean if you really do go by Parliament Square more than me, why dont you drop by and challenge his views? Im betting you wont be so quick at calling me a liar :D

So, for the third time, what evidence do you have he is claiming jobseekers allowance, income support, or any other type of service that drains your fragile account?

Hello...the guy has been there for, what, nearly 7 years. Does not work, does not have any visible means of income, has a family (that he has abandoned) and sucks money out of the public purse faster than twoofers can accuse joooooooos of being evil incarnate.

Yeah...I guess I am a liar :p


Mailman

[mailman]

What disgusts me greatly is when truth denying conspiracy theorists, try associating themselves with respectable anti war and human rights protests to try and give themselves more credibility.

Well this is the problem. He allowed his platform to be stinked up when that black guy who most likely wasnt at Tavistock, the chap who probably didnt have a girlfriend who worked for Danger Mouse, the guy who didnt out the secret agent that followed him in to his bank stood and became part of Brians protest.

The fact he chose to allow that guy to stand on his platform is a pretty good indication of his views.

Im just wondering when the "Young Communists" will get down for a bit of action?

Mailman

[mailman]

Clean what up?
That **** that was his protest.

How much does this actually cost the London Borough of Westminster. Do you actually pay council tax in Westminster?

The last police operation cost in excess of £100k. And yes, I pay taxes that paid for that operation!

If this was America someone might sue him to recover those costs! :D

Mailman

[Ocelot]

That ***** that was his protest.



The last police operation cost in excess of £100k. And yes, I pay taxes that paid for that operation!

If this was America someone might sue him to recover those costs! :D

Mailman

So we're not talking about benefits here, not talking about the regular street cleaning service or anything like that which comes out of council tax. Does that mean you acknowledge that he doesn't live off state hand outs but off money donated by supporters?

However you are trying to hold him accountable for the operation to remove his protest that failed despite being vastly over budget.

I wonder if the Tiananmen square protesters were invoiced for the cost of massacring them?

[brodski]

The last police operation to clean up his cesspit cost in excess of £100,000. That money could have paid for a doctor to treat sick children, three teachers to teach those sick kids, 4 council workers to clean the streets of those sick kids as they go to school...but no, the Met had to squander £100,000 on this moron. Wouldn't it be better to blame the police for misusing public funds by cracking don on a perfectly legal protest? Even though the police keep trying to evict him, he keeps winning his legal challenges. How is it his fault that the met keeps throwing good money after bad?


Hello...the guy has been there for, what, nearly 7 years. Does not work, does not have any visible means of income, apart from the donations that his supporters make to him.

sucks money out of the public purse faster than twoofers can accuse joooooooos of being evil incarnate. you have yet to demonstrate any sucking, rather than the government going so mad at his protest that they'll throw hundreds of thousands at it in a futile attempt to stop him from exercising his legal rights.


Yeah...I guess I am a liar :p well, you have yet to substantiate your claims. Any news on your evidence of his benefits claims yet?