conspiracy theorists financial motives

[tsire]

Hi. I was wondering if anyone has done a webpage/pdf of motives (most likely financial) conspiracy theorists may have. I thought I remember seeing something like that a little while ago but I can no longer find it.

Thanks in advance,
Nick

[T.A.M.]

There was a thread here at JREF that i started concerning the "industry" of 9/11 if that helps...

TAM:)

[Alt+F4]

All I'm going to say is this movie has cost us six figures to make.

Why would you spend six figures to make a movie that you're not going to get back one dime on? The hardcore truthers will have LC:FC on YouTube and Google Video by the evening of November 11. Why would anyone pay to download this crap when you can just watch this crap for free?

Linky: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18337

[dudalb]

Not that Dylan spent anywhere near six figures on LC:FC,of course.....it's just hype.I am betting the production values for LCFC will be just as crappy and amateurish as the previous versions.
To be frank,I think the vast majority of Truthers are driven by motives other then money ..not that makes much of their behavior any less reprehensible or makes their statements any less stupid...but there are a few who are milking the 9/11 suckers for all they are worth.And I put Dylan as one of the people attemtping to make a quick buck. The problem is he is not very good at it.

[Drudgewire]

Poor Lucus. :(

[Brainster]

It's interesting that Dylan claims the film cost six figures to make; as I recall it was only about six months ago that he snorted at Sofia's claim to have spent $125,000 on her film. Anybody recall that? I'd love to do a compare and contrast.

[dudalb]

It's interesting that Dylan claims the film cost six figures to make; as I recall it was only about six months ago that he snorted at Sofia's claim to have spent $125,000 on her film. Anybody recall that? I'd love to do a compare and contrast.


Actually Dylan snorting at the claim that "9/11 Mysteries" cost $125,000 is just about the only thing he has done recently that is intelligent.
But when he turns around and makes the same claim for his home movie is pretty hypocritical.

[jhunter1163]

He didn't say six figures left of the decimal, now did he?

[Chedda]

I've obviously never made an epic film of this magnitude before, but can anyone tell me how on earth it could cost six figures?

I'm assuming it'll use a lot of news archive footage, as before. Also, 3D graphic sequences, interviews, etc. The equipment and software to make this, I would imagine, costs less than $10,000 (assuming he paid for the software. I remember a thread not so long back on the LCF, that he was advising a member that he could download video editing software for free via bittorrent!). He wouldn't have to pay royalties, I would of thought, to his twoofer musician friends. A bit of money towards web hosting, maybe.

So what would the rest of the budget go on?

[Drudgewire]

So what would the rest of the budget go on?
Catering. Duh. :rolleyes:

[jhunter1163]

Dylan did get sued by the Naudets for using their footage without permission. It could be that they charged him bucks deluxe for rights after that little faux pas.

I can't think of anything else that would get the cost of making LC:FC up to $10K, much less $100K.

[qarnos]

It's interesting that Dylan claims the film cost six figures to make; as I recall it was only about six months ago that he snorted at Sofia's claim to have spent $125,000 on her film. Anybody recall that? I'd love to do a compare and contrast.

I wonder if the "fans" ever stop to think where Dylan got that kind of money from?

Also from that thread:

"The film will first be available online as a digital media download at PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.com and LooseChange911.com on November 11th, before orders will be taken for the DVD a week later and shipped out on November 26th."

Didn't Dylan already sell DVD pre-orders for shipping on the 11th?

[qarnos]

You gotta love how they try to rationalize it:

They need to provide incentive for people to buy the film, as FC was expensive to produce.

I wouldn't be surprised if they try to refrain from a google video release for longer than a few days....

Inevitably, someone will try to post the film. Lets be supportive if its removed by the crew...

Like Dylan said, it will eventually be available for free.

So.... Dylan used the money he made from the first 3 editions to make Final Cut... so it's only fair that he be allowed to make that money back, otherwise he wouldn't have made any money out of the movement. Got it.

[Brainster]

Found it. Lucus says (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=13840&view=getnewpost) that 9-11 Mysteries cost $120,000 to produce, somebody asks where she spent all the money, Lucus replies video footage for high-res DVDs, and Dylan snorts:

LUCUS...

She used the same footage everyone else uses.

Don't kid yourself.

He didn't directly say that she didn't spend the money she claims, but he's certainly going out of his way to disprove one theory on how it could have been that expensive.

[dudalb]

I've obviously never made an epic film of this magnitude before, but can anyone tell me how on earth it could cost six figures?

I'm assuming it'll use a lot of news archive footage, as before. Also, 3D graphic sequences, interviews, etc. The equipment and software to make this, I would imagine, costs less than $10,000 (assuming he paid for the software. I remember a thread not so long back on the LCF, that he was advising a member that he could download video editing software for free via bittorrent!). He wouldn't have to pay royalties, I would of thought, to his twoofer musician friends. A bit of money towards web hosting, maybe.

So what would the rest of the budget go on?

A Numbered bank account in an overseas bank? :D:D:D:D:D:D

[GwionX]

I can see where the web flick could reach a cost in the six digit range--once you factor in Bermas' research fees, and Avery's Narration fees,oh and Rowe's finance charges..of course.

Troof don't come cheap these days!

[Brainache]

Maybe Dylan is factoring in all the money he could have been making doing something else. So the six figures includes lost income from his promising carreer as an Executive Consultant or a Brain Surgeon or Game Show Host or something...

[T.A.M.]

$999,900 on rights acquisitions and animations, perhaps?

TAM:)

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Reminder: though such things (as financial motives) may be of interest when examining why CTists do such things, it should be remembered that it has no actually bearing on the (in)validity of their arguments.

[Alareth]

Hey! Computer graphics FROM GERMANY cost the big dollars.

Ahh ... Remember those heady days of yore when Dylan was quoting a budget of twenty million for LC:FC?