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JEROME DA GNOME
22nd October 2007, 09:12 PM
Scientists have made a breakthrough in man's desire to control the forces of nature (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/21/wstorm121.xml)
:eek:
The MIT team has now hired a professor of risk management to advise on steps necessary to protect themselves from legal action by communities affected if a hurricane is diverted. It is pressing for changes to US law and for an international treaty to settle possible disputes between neighbouring countries.
Interesting link within the story: Is the US heading for an environmental 9/11? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/05/04/eablogpearce04.xml)
Good Lt
22nd October 2007, 09:14 PM
Maybe they should forward the alert to China - the world's largest CO2 emitter.
JEROME DA GNOME
22nd October 2007, 09:17 PM
Maybe they should forward the alert to China - the world's largest CO2 emitter.
China is already doing it:
Beijing to shoot down Olympic rain (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/06/05/china.rain/index.html)
China has a weather modification office which seeks to control the rains.
Could just be communist propaganda?
Redtail
22nd October 2007, 09:29 PM
This tech has been around for a while. That's why it rained every time I went into the field when I was in the Army.
Good Lt
22nd October 2007, 09:44 PM
China has a weather modification office which seeks to control the rains.
That just sounds creepy right there.
OldTigerCub
22nd October 2007, 11:11 PM
China is already doing it:
Beijing to shoot down Olympic rain (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/06/05/china.rain/index.html)
Could just be communist propaganda?
They are bringing in Kim Jong-il to take care of it. Hey, if he can shoot a perfect round of golf his first time out, the weather is a piece of cake.:p
JEROME DA GNOME
22nd October 2007, 11:16 PM
They are bringing in Kim Jong-il to take care of it. Hey, if he can shoot a perfect round of golf his first time out, the weather is a piece of cake.:p
Yea, right. And the NFL is not pre-determined either.
DevilsAdvocate
23rd October 2007, 01:46 AM
My understanding is that the U.S. and many other countries have long-standing laws against weather control. Of course that was a long time ago concerning an article about Bernard Vonnegut (Kurt Vonnegut’s brother) who found a way to make clouds produce rain. There was some excitement that it would be possible to make it rain in the desert and get rid of deserts. But there was concern that rain caused to fall in the desert would not fall in other places and change that environment. Ultimately, the U.S. decided that no man-made changes to weather would be permitted because there is not enough knowledge about weather to know what the full consequences would be. That was probably 20-30 years ago. I think we are still in the same position.
Plantfoam
23rd October 2007, 02:00 AM
I'm still not sure if there is any conclusive evidence that proves the Chinese are successfully controlling the weather with aging AA guns.
A W Smith
23rd October 2007, 07:48 AM
My understanding is that the U.S. and many other countries have long-standing laws against weather control. Of course that was a long time ago concerning an article about Bernard Vonnegut (Kurt Vonnegut’s brother) who found a way to make clouds produce rain. There was some excitement that it would be possible to make it rain in the desert and get rid of deserts. But there was concern that rain caused to fall in the desert would not fall in other places and change that environment. Ultimately, the U.S. decided that no man-made changes to weather would be permitted because there is not enough knowledge about weather to know what the full consequences would be. That was probably 20-30 years ago. I think we are still in the same position.
So no one does cloud seeding anymore? I remember hearing about it in the sixties or seventies. I think in some old agriculture documentary. Not a word since. I can imagine the legal aspects of it. One state stealing the potential for rain from another state. Much easier to use the loophole of the Hoover Dam. Steal and send the water right to Los Angeles. :D
JEROME DA GNOME
23rd October 2007, 07:57 AM
My understanding is that the U.S. and many other countries have long-standing laws against weather control.
You have it in reverse as concerns the US.
National Weather Modification Policy Act of 1976
(b) Purpose.—It is therefore declared to be the purpose of the Congress in this Act to develop a comprehensive and coordinated national weather modification policy and a national program of weather modification research and development—
“(1) to determine the means by which deliberate weather modification can be used at the present time to decrease the adverse impact of weather on agriculture, economic growth, and the general public welfare, and to determine the potential for weather modification;
“(2) to conduct research into those scientific areas considered most likely to lead to practical techniques for drought prevention or alleviation and other forms of deliberate weather modification;
“(3) to develop practical methods and devices for weather modification;
“(4) to make weather modification research findings available to interested parties;
“(5) to assess the economic, social, environmental, and legal impact of an operational weather modification program;
“(6) to develop both national and international mechanisms designed to minimize conflicts which may arise with respect to the peaceful uses of weather modification; and
“(7) to integrate the results of existing experience and studies in weather modification activities into model codes and agreements for regulation of domestic and international weather modification activities.
US CODE Title 15,330 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sec_15_00000330----000-notes.html)
SpaceMonkeyZero
23rd October 2007, 08:00 AM
They are bringing in Kim Jong-il to take care of it. Hey, if he can shoot a perfect round of golf his first time out, the weather is a piece of cake.:p
Not just perfect, but 12 holes in one out of 18!
Of course what was omitted from the news story was that it was at the Pyongyang Putt-Putt Mini Golf Course & Nathan's Famous Dog Stew Stand.
dudalb
23rd October 2007, 11:23 AM
CHina should just hire the Weather Wizard to control the Rain and hope the Flash does not show up......
dudalb
23rd October 2007, 11:24 AM
CHina should just hire the Weather Wizard to control the Rain and hope the Flash does not show up......
JEROME DA GNOME
23rd October 2007, 06:01 PM
CHina should just hire the Weather Wizard to control the Rain and hope the Flash does not show up......
Did you just say that?
Did you just say that?
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