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Gravy
24th October 2007, 07:22 AM
Interesting results from this study:
Cannabis: Potent Anti-depressant In Low Doses, Worsens Depression At High Doses (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071023183937.htm)
...The anti-depressant and intoxicating effects of cannabis are due to its chemical similarity to natural substances in the brain known as "endo-cannabinoids," which are released under conditions of high stress or pain...
but:
"Excessive cannabis use in people with depression poses high risk of psychosis"
Dancing David
24th October 2007, 08:29 AM
That is not too suprising but without reading the actual article the basis for antidepressant may or may not be warranted. It may elevate mood on a temporary basis but that is different from antidepressant.
The risk of psychosis is not any highr for people with depression unless they have psychotic depression to begin with IMNSHO
Schneibster
24th October 2007, 08:40 AM
In low doses it increases serotonin, just like SSRIs like Prozac do (but presumably through a different mechanism- this is, after all, Science Daily, not Nature). There's a bunch of other fluff that all these people seem to feel the need to add to articles about pot, they look like they're talking and their mouths are moving, but all I hear is "foona-foona-foona."
Loss Leader
24th October 2007, 09:18 AM
Interesting results from this study:
Cannabis: Potent Anti-depressant In Low Doses, Worsens Depression At High Doses (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071023183937.htm)
What the hell does this have to do with debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories? Get back to work, hippie.
Gravy
24th October 2007, 09:22 AM
What the hell does this have to do with debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories?A lot. It's about rats on THC. :D
tsg
24th October 2007, 01:09 PM
they look like they're talking and their mouths are moving, but all I hear is "foona-foona-foona."
Are you sure that isn't because of what you've been smoking?
Furcifer
24th October 2007, 01:21 PM
Hard to argue with clinical data but here goes. It's been my experience that the psychological effects are way more important than the physical effects in users. If we associate the high with "good times" then serotonin levels have little to do with how we feel, and the chance of psychosis drops. I think this is seen in numerous recreational drugs, alcohol, caffeine, LSD, THC to name a few. I think if we bred lab rats that had: recently fallen in love at a Led Zepplin concert, were up for a promotion but didn't get it, divorced and remarried a much younger and fertile rat, raised a fine litter of rats, all of which went on to be highly regarded researchers themselves, had a mortgage, bought their first BMW etc. this study would be much more indicative of the human experience. Not to mention that I'd be pretty bummed if someone picked me up and made me swin for my life after smoking a fatty :)
skeptifem
24th October 2007, 02:43 PM
i wonder how that works when someone has a high tolerance...
tracer
24th October 2007, 04:02 PM
So that's why that ex-pothead ex-coworker of mine said she started experiencing paranoia after she'd been smoking weed for a while.
OldTigerCub
24th October 2007, 07:09 PM
What the hell does this have to do with debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories? Get back to work, hippie.
A lot. It's about rats on THC. :D
No wonder I don't understand a thing CTers say!
(Dangit, Gravy....now I can't get THAT song out of my head now!:( )
bobdroege7
24th October 2007, 07:20 PM
try sweet leaf by Ozzie
Schneibster
24th October 2007, 07:33 PM
Well, Ozzie sang it, anyway... it was on Master of Reality, 1971, Black Sabbath.
bobdroege7
25th October 2007, 12:25 AM
Well, Ozzie sang it, anyway... it was on Master of Reality, 1971, Black Sabbath.
And the song is credited to the entire band.
"some folks will always be with you
and some you will never understand
Black Sabbath never was the same
once Ozzie left the band"
author unknown at least to me
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