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geggy
29th October 2007, 09:37 AM
no surprise here that george carlin would ask questions but then of course, he says a new investigation would be also a whitewash.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/291007_carlin_questions.htm

geggy
29th October 2007, 09:41 AM
i have also often wondered what bill hicks would say if he was alive today...

Dave Rogers
29th October 2007, 09:41 AM
no surprise here that george carlin would ask questions

...nor that a comedian would want to support a bunch of comedians.

Dave

8den
29th October 2007, 09:45 AM
no surprise here that george carlin would ask questions but then of course, he says a new investigation would be also a whitewash.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/291007_carlin_questions.htm

Well now the truth movement has someone who's intentionally funny, which sets him apart from 99% of the truth movement who are unintentionally hilarious.

Now get back to us when you have endorsements from engineers, architects, structural engineers, and demolition experts, who are willing to stand over their opinion in credible peer reviewed journals

Alareth
29th October 2007, 09:45 AM
I've often wondered what you would say if you had a clue.

boloboffin
29th October 2007, 09:51 AM
That is one of the most non-committal endorsements I've ever read. Seriously, he's a proponent of always questioning the government, and so that's the best he can give the truthers.

I was at a Carlin concert in the month after the 9/11 attacks. He read a statement making it clear that he knew exactly who pulled off the attacks (Al Qaeda) and that Governor Bush had his full support in the months ahead.

dudalb
29th October 2007, 09:57 AM
Sadly,several celebs try too hard to be anti establishment. Questioning the Government if fine,advocating and supporting crackpot theories is not.

16.5
29th October 2007, 09:57 AM
Whoa! The Trooth Movement has another Engineer!

Didn't George Carlin play one on Thomas The Tank Engine?

/Ugh, I caught part of his last HBO special, it was painfully unfunny.

Dave Rogers
29th October 2007, 10:00 AM
That is one of the most non-committal endorsements I've ever read. Seriously, he's a proponent of always questioning the government, and so that's the best he can give the truthers.

It's not an endorsement in any sense, as far as I can see. The two central arguments of the truth movement are that they know that 9-11 was an inside job and that there should be a new investigation because they're just asking questions about whether 9-11 was an inside job. Carlin isn't saying that 9-11 was an inside job and he doesn't think there's any point in calling for a new investigation. In what sense is that an expression of support for the truth movement?

Dave

Alferd_Packer
29th October 2007, 10:01 AM
He read a statement making it clear that he knew exactly who pulled off the attacks (Al Qaeda) and that Governor Bush had his full support in the months ahead.

Governor Bush????

boloboffin
29th October 2007, 10:03 AM
Governor Bush????

That's what he said. He got a raucous round of applause for it too.

Arkan_Wolfshade
29th October 2007, 10:07 AM
no surprise here that george carlin would ask questions but then of course, he says a new investigation would be also a whitewash.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/291007_carlin_questions.htm
Fallacious appeal to authority.

dudalb
29th October 2007, 10:13 AM
Governor Bush????

(In Best Foghorn Leghorn Voice)
That's a Joke there,son,that's a Joke.

beachnut
29th October 2007, 10:14 AM
no surprise here that george carlin would ask questions but then of course, he says a new investigation would be also a whitewash.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/291007_carlin_questions.htm
Prison Planet? Reporting a nut case by a nut case web site.
No facts to explain the whitewash statement, I think it is a very dumb statement. No facts, no evidence, you and he can't post a single fact to support the insane position. Well can you guys find any facts?

pomeroo
29th October 2007, 10:19 AM
Why is anyone taking George Carlin seriously? There was a time when I regarded the man as a comic genius. I had my fill of him when he started pontificating during a gig in NYC about golf courses, about how they should be given to "the People." He's just another old commie like Ed Asner whose sentiments are reflexively anti-American.

Brainster
29th October 2007, 10:27 AM
Actually for an aging radical, that's about as effective a blow-off as can be imagined. It's funny, but most of the "Truthers" whom I've debated on this issue will happily admit that even if they get their new investigation, that nothing will happen for the exact reason Carlin mentions.

MetalliSociety
29th October 2007, 11:30 AM
Carlin is adament about the gov't being corrupt, but once again as someone said above, if this is an endorsement of the truthers, it's one of the weakest endorsements i've ever seen.

Also in breaking news, apparently Martin Sheen is buying into his crack head prostitute beating son Charlie's truther ways. Not suprising.

JimBenArm
29th October 2007, 11:35 AM
Considering I base all my opinions on what celebrities think, I am now officially a twoofer.
I also take child care advice from Britney, and learned conflict resolution from O.J.

Sword_Of_Truth
29th October 2007, 11:39 AM
no surprise here that george carlin would ask questions but then of course, he says a new investigation would be also a whitewash.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/291007_carlin_questions.htm

I'm a conservative. I've been ignoring celebrities politics since at least the mid-1980s.

DarkMagician
29th October 2007, 11:40 AM
If apathy could be harnessed for electricity, I could power a small, third-world country after reading about this.

boloboffin
29th October 2007, 11:42 AM
Considering I base all my opinions on what celebrities think, I am now officially a twoofer.
I also take child care advice from Britney, and learned conflict resolution from O.J.

Britney's mom is publishing a parenting book (http://in.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idINIndia-30185920071026).

The old saw about cynicism not being able to keep up applies here.

DarkMagician
29th October 2007, 11:46 AM
Britney's mom is publishing a parenting book (http://in.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idINIndia-30185920071026).

The old saw about cynicism not being able to keep up applies here.

...or Reality outdoing Satire.

Pardalis
29th October 2007, 11:50 AM
"I always question the received reality. The consensus reality is often intentionally misleading."

Wow, that could mean just about anything now could it?

And he didn't even swear.

timhau
29th October 2007, 11:55 AM
"I always question the received reality. The consensus reality is often intentionally misleading."

Wow, that could mean just about anything now could it?

And he didn't even swear.

Well... since it's on prisonplanet, the odds are about 1:1.7 that the quote should continue "...but you guys are just out of your £*@#!:ing minds."

dudalb
29th October 2007, 12:21 PM
Britney's mom is publishing a parenting book (http://in.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idINIndia-30185920071026).

The old saw about cynicism not being able to keep up applies here.

And the Lohan Family is doing a reality show.
Beam Me Up Scotty,This Planet Is Going Insane.

T.A.M.
29th October 2007, 12:28 PM
Government bad, people good.
Government bad, people good.
Government bad, people good.

TAM;)

brodski
29th October 2007, 12:32 PM
Britney's mom is publishing a parenting book (http://in.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idINIndia-30185920071026).

The old saw about cynicism not being able to keep up applies here.

"good parenting, If I'd done it..." ;)

BenBurch
29th October 2007, 12:35 PM
Government bad, people good.
Government bad, people good.
Government bad, people good.

TAM;)

Isn't that the tension that has existed within the USA since the founding?

Government bad, people good.

vs

Government good, people bad.

Hyperviolet
29th October 2007, 12:36 PM
"good parenting, If I'd done it..." ;)


Hahaha!

"I wasn't, but if i was, i would've done it like this..."

T.A.M.
29th October 2007, 12:44 PM
Isn't that the tension that has existed within the USA since the founding?

Government bad, people good.

vs

Government good, people bad.

Exactly, and that is all that Carlin is really saying...which is my point wrt to the OP claim. Carlin is not saying the govt did it, so much as that the govt is corrupt, and there fore they are bad, the people are good...nothing here to see...moving on...

TAM:)

pomeroo
29th October 2007, 12:49 PM
Isn't that the tension that has existed within the USA since the founding?

Government bad, people good.

vs

Government good, people bad.


I wonder how people who mindlessly intone the "people good, government bad" mantra reconcile their faith with the lynch mobs that murdered innocent blacks throughout the Jim Crow era. The 9/11 fantasy movement is a lynch mob.

Drudgewire
29th October 2007, 01:00 PM
Why did the gummit bring down the towers? Because we already have TOO MUCH STUFF!! ;)

milesalpha
29th October 2007, 02:09 PM
Bad comparison. The lynch mobs were composed of the wealthy and politically powerful, they represented the majority and society in general. And tacitly backed by a weak willed federal government.

Prohibitionists fit their general pattern much better.

HL7442
29th October 2007, 02:12 PM
Garofalo, Carlin, Franken, these are just some of the former comedians who went bananas during the past 7 years.:hypnotize

dudalb
29th October 2007, 02:15 PM
Back when Carlin talked about the Seven Words You Can Never Say On Television,his days in Catholic High School.Wonderful Wino Radio,and Icebox Man he was great. But he has not been really funny in some time,and definently suffers from "Aged Hippy Disease".

pomeroo
29th October 2007, 02:27 PM
Bad comparison. The lynch mobs were composed of the wealthy and politically powerful, they represented the majority and society in general. And tacitly backed by a weak willed federal government.

Prohibitionists fit their general pattern much better.


I don't think you're correct. Lynch mobs for the most part consisted of regular folks putting their prejudices into action. The feds ignored them.

I find your point regarding prohibitionists rather strained.

RedIbis
29th October 2007, 02:37 PM
I wonder how people who mindlessly intone the "people good, government bad" mantra reconcile their faith with the lynch mobs that murdered innocent blacks throughout the Jim Crow era. The 9/11 fantasy movement is a lynch mob.

Are you really equating a bunch kids with laptops, black hoodies and a lot of editing software to racist murderers?

This isn't so much offensive as it smacks of desperation. If you have a defense for this curious analogy, I'm all ears.

Derail prevention observation:

Carlin didn't go near 9/11 specifically. I very much respect his pov that the gov't received story is to be doubted, scrutinized and treated with the most possible skepticism. He's in the same school with Vonnegut, Orwell, Steinbeck, all of those writers who beg us to recognize the power structure's corruptibility.

boloboffin
29th October 2007, 02:41 PM
The 9/11 Truth Movement certainly doesn't enjoy even 1% of the societal approval that lynch mobs did in the South. In that, they are not comparable.

Brainache
29th October 2007, 02:46 PM
I think the Truth Movement is like a lynch mob, but without any rope, or a tree, or enough members to actually lynch anyone. So yeah, a bit pathetic really.

Drudgewire
29th October 2007, 02:53 PM
Lynch Mobs? Dokken's old guitarist thinks 9/11 was an inside job too? :con2:

uruk
29th October 2007, 03:01 PM
Carlin is a product of the 60's. His default mode is to be suspicious of the government.

But notice that when he discovers that he is being recorded he clams up and moves the guy along.

dudalb
29th October 2007, 03:22 PM
I think the Truth Movement is like a lynch mob, but without any rope, or a tree, or enough members to actually lynch anyone. So yeah, a bit pathetic really.

Hell,they don't even know how to tie a decent Hangman's Noose.....

negativ
29th October 2007, 03:26 PM
i have also often wondered what bill hicks would say if he was alive today...



If Bill Hicks were alive today, he's almost certainly be dead by now.

Drudgewire
29th October 2007, 03:32 PM
i have also often wondered what bill hicks would say if he was alive today...
LET ME OUT OF THIS COFFIN I CAN'T RULETENNING BREATHE!!






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