LCF: A nice woo-woo explosion...hijackers are 'agents,' Bush, sex, occult #'s, etc.

[Good Lt]

So I guess there were hijackers after all... (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18543&view=findpost&p=14665137)

Oh, and Nick Berg was a possible covert CIA agent 'provocateur...'


Im just saying, if were to go by the people who believe the official story, that even the "19 hijackers? were nothing more than protected and sheltered proxies to carry out an Western globalist agenda against David Rockefeller's Twin Towers.

No matter what, its still an "inside job", to use that cliche term

It's great to see an open mind at work, no?

And within a few posts, it goes quickly downhill:

As Peter Dale Scott said, the 9-11 Omission report is important for what is left out, not what is included in it. What is left out gives an outline of where to look for the real "juice". Controlled demolition by thermite all over the alternative media doesnt bother the Government one little bit.

The aspect involving Neocon criminals Perle, Libby et al and Turkish heroin trafficking (Sibel Edmonds).

The "dancing Israelis" and Carl Camerons amazing (and buried) Fox Report

The aspect involving Saudi penetration of the FAA via pTech.
The ISI Connection (when asked about this in a news conference, Condi Rices's nose grew several *feet* long)

I think you have a very valid point - and one that people like Phillip Zelikow know very well. Control the boundaries of what may be discussed in the media and anything which is ambigous, fuzzy, paradoxical get rejected by the media "immune system"?

What if we have a situation where the actual Truth of what happened is REALLY weird?

:boggled: Because events like 9-11 are so typical and ho-hum. Nothing strange about them at all. Nope. Can't put anything by you, ace.

As weird as the deep connections of organised Florida Jewish mafia crime syndicates(heirs to Meyer Lansky) to the.... Saudi Royal family??

As weird as agent provocateurs in London being seen chatting with police behind their lines before joining demonstrators and starting window smashing and then getting th crap kicked out of them by the same police!

As weird as the fruitcake Islamic fundamentalists in Pakistan having been created by America, with US money and the most insane militaristic schoolbooks and education programmes created by... CHRISTIAN fundamentalists from Nebraska

AHHhh..that's the good stuff. :cool:

As weird as President George Bush having heard the sexual history of a fellow Skull and Bones member, (shouted out while wanking in a coffin(!!) ), of the chap whose company (Blackstone) owned the World Trade Centre(!!!) Some slight connection there......

:eye-poppi

SUPPOSE the "Truth" is that 9-11 was a joint rogue Saudi / ISI operation, financially facilitated by Adnan Khashoggi's Russian-Israei Mafiya friends and operationally by a crew from Haliburton / Turkish Mafiya / Blackwater run things on the day

How could the average Fox-fed American cope with a truth like this????

And then thread's initiator swoops in and calms this frazzled Twoofer...PSYCH!

Oh, youre right...the TRUTH behind 9/11 might be pretty weird, to downright frightening

Even, if I may add to your list....

weirder than say...the FBI informant hosting the hijackers in San Diego business partners with al Qaeda funder who rented out the house to the Heavens Gate cult in 1997 that killed Star Trek's Uhura's brother

weirder than Bush ran Riggs bank used to have Saudi elites fund the 9/11 hijackers

weirder than Jerry Fallwell saying 9/11 was because of gays, when his million dollar contributor friend Wally Hillard helped the hijackers falsify info to use his school as he was running CIA linked drug smuggling cessna operations

weirder than The Twin Towers being the brainchild of David Rockefeller with the construction of the bin Laden group

weirder than the main hijackers safehouse in Florida rented to them by the
Sun Tabloid owners whose company got anthraxed

weirder than 11, 77, 93, and 175 being the prime occult ritualistic numbers mentioned by Aleister Crowley after meditating in the Pyramids of Giza


:boxedin: I'm scared.

Sorry to lay this thread on all of you, but I haven't gone diving for pearls/stundie nominees in a while. And I remember now how much I missed it. :)

[OldTigerCub]

weirder than 11, 77, 93, and 175 being the prime occult ritualistic numbers mentioned by Aleister Crowley after meditating in the Pyramids of Giza

:hb:

wow....just....wow....:eek:

If you were mining for stundies, you just hit the mother lode Good Lt.! :D

[Drudgewire]

:mrocks

[Childlike Empress]

Sorry to lay this thread on all of you, but I haven't gone diving for pearls/stundie nominees in a while. And I remember now how much I missed it. :)


We all know where this forum is and the banned of us all know how to use a proxy.

[beachnut]

We all know where this forum is and the banned of us all know how to use a proxy.
Proxy away.

[Childlike Empress]

Proxy away.


Use another.

[Calcas]

Use another.

I think you misunderstood his comment...

But those are some damn nice quotes...:D

[Childlike Empress]

I think you misunderstood his comment...


Really? How come?

[hellaeon]

Childlike, serious question, I notice you do lurk a lot here and like myself, dont have much to add amongst the plethora of good information.

Where do you sit at this stage with all the conspiracy jargon? Is there any of the theories you look at with scorn that you once perhaps favoured?

Cheers

[Childlike Empress]

Childlike, serious question, I notice you do lurk a lot here and like myself, dont have much to add amongst the plethora of good information.

Where do you sit at this stage with all the conspiracy jargon? Is there any of the theories you look at with scorn that you once perhaps favoured?

Cheers


I lurk a lot less than i did a year ago (i read perhaps 5% of the subforum ATM).

I'm german and we had an early wave of 9/11 CT's starting, well, at 9/11. We had hot discussions on internet forums, "debunkers", "believers" and so on - and we 9/11 skeptics agreed that we have to wait 'till the americans wake up from their trauma. In none of these discussions we seriously thought about "controlled demolition", "space beams" or *insert ***** theory here*.

This agreement led me to abandon the topic from early 2003 'till in late 2005 Loose Change, Steven Jones etc. triggered the long-awaited event: America is waking up. At that time i successfully promoted Jones' thesis on some kind of kindergarten JREF equivalent forum in Germany for month, but nobody really countered my arguments there, and i was left unsatisfied. I still handled the argument i was putting into discussion with a distance.

I'm talking about controlled demolition and Loose Change orthodoxy. So i've looked for better places and somehow found the JREF through a link at LCF.

A few weeks later i came to the conclusion that the initial opinion i had about "CD" and alike theories was right - ***** (while i still have some questions regarding it), but that there was a need for a "grey" opinion in the whole argument - so i signed up here.

Summarizing, i've never fully believed the CD or no plane here and there theories but my main analysis still stands: The official story narrated by the likes of Thomas Kean and Philip Zelikow is a joke, full of ommissions. See the initial quotes from that guy 8bitagent who has a profound knowledge of the connections involved in 9/11.

[Good Lt]

See the initial quotes from that guy 8bitagent who has a profound knowledge of the connections involved in 9/11.

Quotes like the ones cited above, you mean? What more can we learn, pray tell, from 8bitagent?

[Childlike Empress]

Paying attention helps.

[Good Lt]

Well, can you produce some quotes that we may learn from about the issues surrounding 9-11 made by 8bitagent?

[Calcas]

Quotes like the ones cited above, you mean? What more can we learn, pray tell, from 8bitagent?

8bitagant is one of the wackier guys in the movement. I've been reading him at lcf and his posts and ideas are WAY out there.

Here's a recent example of a thread he started.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18543

He uses snippets like the FAA controllers who recorded their statements (which were subsequently destroyed to protect them from FAA repercussions) as "evidence" of a cover-up. Read the Cheap Shot interview here to get the real story.

http://911guide.googlepages.com/cs3

[Childlike Empress]

Well, can you produce some quotes that we may learn from about the issues surrounding 9-11 made by 8bitagent?


You did, didn't you?

And again, why do you think anyone here is in need of your little messenger service of current events at LCF? At least deliver us something of artistic value like Oliver's badges back in the days.

[Good Lt]

Well, see, you said we can learn something of value from said quotes. And I'm just trying to pin down exactly which ones you mean, and what can be learned from them.

Do you mean the links and insinuations in that tedious post of scattershot tidbits? Help me out here.

And I'm glad you like the messenger service - I enjoy reading the stuff, too. :)

[MaGZ]

So I guess there were hijackers after all... (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=18543&view=findpost&p=14665137)

Oh, and Nick Berg was a possible covert CIA agent 'provocateur...'


Nick Berg is Mossad and is probably still working with them with an new face.

[Unsecured Coins]

probably means you're just making stuff up.

I talk into my wrist occasionally. I don't have a watch or anything to speak into. I just enjoy conversing with my bones.

[Childlike Empress]

And I'm glad you like the messenger service - I enjoy reading the stuff, too. :)


I know where i can find the Loose Change Forum and so do all of the regulars here - we don't need your idiotic spamming. If you want to get to the point of the quotes you've delivered, you have to think for yourself. I'm not your nanny.

[Pardalis]

Nick Berg is Mossad and is probably still working with them with an new face.

Here:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/88864728017b500e4.jpg

[MaGZ]

Here:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/88864728017b500e4.jpg

Apparently you were not aware that Berg tried to infiltrate al Qaeda when he was at the University of Oklahoma with Moussuai. Berg’s father is also is part of the Mossad father and son team. He is one of the leaders (mole) of ANSWER a left wing anti Israel group.

[Good Lt]

Childlike -

It's rather obvious what I think of this CT's quotes and statements - they're utter hoo-hah and padlum. I guess that counts as thinking for myself.

I don't know - I've always found threads here at JREF highlighting either exceptional woo or hilarious things going on at LCF or 9-11 Blogger or elsewhere rather amusing. I'm fairly sure others do too.

As once mused at Gravy's 9-11 pages, we laugh to keep from crying.

And while I'm not here to get into a snit with you, I will remind you of this which you began with...

See the initial quotes from that guy 8bitagent who has a profound knowledge of the connections involved in 9/11.

...and perhaps I'll just go on to wonder what you meant. Holes in the OS? Sure - and, as noted on South Park, there are holes in the theory of evolution, but that doesn't meant the entire theory is wrong.

OTOH, it's clear that 8bit's off the deep end, but you seemed to suggest he's got something to say. Maybe I have that wrong.

If you want to let me know what you meant, in your humble opinion, I'm all ears. If not, that's fine too.

I'm not sure how you think you're acting as "my nanny," or what that has to do with anything.

[Childlike Empress]

I began with this:

We all know where this forum is and the banned of us all know how to use a proxy.


and this is still all i have to say to you. Your appearance here is a waste of time.

[Good Lt]

That's fine. That has nothing to do with what you meant by this, though:

See the initial quotes from that guy 8bitagent who has a profound knowledge of the connections involved in 9/11.

Whatev.

I'm glad you approve of my appearance here in this subforum. I do, too. :)

[Childlike Empress]

And what? Do you want me to explain the value of 8bitagent's posts to you? AM I YOUR NANNY? Why don't you follow the links he provides? Hm? twohundred-x posts with this idiotic "look at what i've found - ain't i un-JREFin-cool" -BS. Shake and Shiver. SKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

ptDeDknz5rs

[hellaeon]

I lurk a lot less than i did a year ago (i read perhaps 5% of the subforum ATM).

I'm german and we had an early wave of 9/11 CT's starting, well, at 9/11. We had hot discussions on internet forums, "debunkers", "believers" and so on - and we 9/11 skeptics agreed that we have to wait 'till the americans wake up from their trauma. In none of these discussions we seriously thought about "controlled demolition", "space beams" or *insert ***** theory here*.

This agreement led me to abandon the topic from early 2003 'till in late 2005 Loose Change, Steven Jones etc. triggered the long-awaited event: America is waking up. At that time i successfully promoted Jones' thesis on some kind of kindergarten JREF equivalent forum in Germany for month, but nobody really countered my arguments there, and i was left unsatisfied. I still handled the argument i was putting into discussion with a distance.

I'm talking about controlled demolition and Loose Change orthodoxy. So i've looked for better places and somehow found the JREF through a link at LCF.

A few weeks later i came to the conclusion that the initial opinion i had about "CD" and alike theories was right - ***** (while i still have some questions regarding it), but that there was a need for a "grey" opinion in the whole argument - so i signed up here.

Summarizing, i've never fully believed the CD or no plane here and there theories but my main analysis still stands: The official story narrated by the likes of Thomas Kean and Philip Zelikow is a joke, full of ommissions. See the initial quotes from that guy 8bitagent who has a profound knowledge of the connections involved in 9/11.

Cheers for the response.

Is there anything at the JREF that made you think twice about those theories? Personally the more I read about what happened the further any form of 'conspiracy' seems. I see more issues with the politics behind the event then any kind of actual operation conducted by the Amercian or NWO (Whatever that may be made up of) on the USA.

I see unintentional consequences from intentional actions as being most of the 'unanswered' questions. Something happens, cause someone to do something else yadda yadda....I have no evidence or anything to back up this but really, I think this is something that happens everyday in many places around the world. The rules in place force people down a certain few paths and then the chain of events continues. Obviously things have been very different in a terrorist attack since 9/11.

Actually come to think of it, I dont really know what question I would want answered given the chance...I guess one would be surely someone of the Bin Laden family would know of his whereabouts? But in no way does this negate the fact or lead me to any conspiracy of the 9/11 covert op kind, I would put it down to the bin laden family simply not knowing or lieing.

Is this where you beef is? I presume you still think the US Government is still behind the attack in some form?


Nick Berg is Mossad and is probably still working with them with an new face.


I hope your not being serious. If so please piss off, thats a completely useless comment in any thread.

[Good Lt]

So you're still not sure about who caused 9-11, then? "Open-minded," but no full-on CD/no-planer?

That's cute, but it's no excuse for the snippiness, particularly when I've gone out of my way to be polite and accept your hostility with good humor.

Shake and Shiver. SKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I didn't know anyone still listened to ska, since it effectively died in 1998 with the neo-swing revival. ;)

[Good Lt]

I hope your not being serious. If so please piss off, thats a completely useless comment in any thread.

Agreed. MaGZ, that's really disgusting and inappropriate in any context.

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

*sigh*

So ChildEmpress: Let's hear your theory of a timeline of events leading up to the "CD" of the WTC.

What do you theorize as HOW and WHEN the wiring of the WTC complex took place? You do realize that prepping an abandoned building takes months. So did they do this over years? Did they plan it from the start in the 70s when it was built? Please. Let us know your theory on how the building was prepped.

Also, I'm trying to figure out your 5 letter swear word you used under the *****.

[Bell]

Also, I'm trying to figure out your 5 letter swear word you used under the *****.

I'm contacting the NWO right now, asking for CE's keystroke logs.

[Unsecured Coins]

Bell, I talked to Agent Leman and he says they're backlogged right now. Too much clutter from the LCF bogged down the server