5/11/1605

[peteweaver]

Remember remember the fifth of november gunpowder treason and plot.

On this day in 1605 Guido Fawkes was caught red handed trying to blow up Parliament.

But was it an inside job ?

Come up with your very own 5/11/1605 conspiracy theories.

[ref]

Remember remember the fifth of november gunpowder treason and plot.

On this day in 1605 Guido Fawkes was caught red handed trying to blow up Parliament.

But was it an inside job ?

Come up with your very own 5/11/1605 conspiracy theories.

Is this on YouTube?

[Redtail]

Remember remember the fifth of november gunpowder treason and plot.

On this day in 1605 Guido Fawkes was caught red handed trying to blow up Parliament.

But was it an inside job ?

Come up with your very own 5/11/1605 conspiracy theories.

Oh thank GOD! I was wondering why I was seeing Guy Fawkes masks this morning.

[MG1962]

Well clearly the complete lack of aircraft wreckage is a real smoking gun

[brodski]

Is this on YouTube?

nah, it's on YeTube.




I'll get me coat.

[JAStewart]

I love the 'ill get me coat' sketch.

Srsly though:

5/11/1605: 911! proof:

5/11/1605 - 5+5 = 10.

11/160 - 10-1=9

11/60 - 6x0=0

11.

9/11.

OMFG.

[chillzero]

It was a false flag operation, to distract the population from the seeding of the black plague which was fully released 60 years later.

[defaultdotxbe]

It was a false flag operation, to distract the population from the seeding of the black plague which was fully released 60 years later.
which the immune system would have stopped cold had it not been for a series of "vaccinations" to weaken the immune system

[milesalpha]

The vaccinations delivered by secret government space beams?

[Hyperviolet]

Webster Tarpley does actually believe that the Gunpowder plot was an Inside Job.

It turned out that all of these plotters were Catholics and this was the big thing. The Government was very interested in the fact that they were Catholics, and before too long the government did everything it did to tie these Catholics to the Jesuit Order allegedly acting on orders of the Pope in Rome and the General of the Jesuit Order to blow up the British Parliament and kill the King, kill the Lords, kills the members of the House of Commons. They were all executed within a month or two – Guy Fawkes, Winter, a bunch of others, and the Jesuit teacher Garnet who was the Jesuit provincial leader of the province of England, he was also picked up, tortured, put on trial, they had a show trial for him and he was also executed.
This became then the basis of the entire English government for approximately 200 years, from the late 1660’s until the middle of the 19th century this thing was in the Anglican prayer book, and a kind of article of the state religion, and of course it’s legendary, it’s a pervasive thing.
So this occurred on November 5th 1605, so we now have the 400th anniversary of those events. Now the finding I would start with is the entire official story is a complete lie from top to bottom. And this looks forward to events like the Gulf of Tonkin, like 9/11, carried out really by the same faction because this is the Anglo-Venetian Whig faction, the Anglo-American financier faction that has dominated the world for the past several hundred years.


http://www.waronfreedom.org/wgt/cloakandgunpowder.html

[petra10]

Of course it was an inside job.Some MP's had shares in a firework company and planned the plot so as to get lots and lots of money from the sale of fireworks.
To this day the families of the MP's are still making loads of money from the sale of fireworks.

[JAStewart]

Not to mention the nice fireworks show they would have got if it had gone through.

[Alferd_Packer]

May 11, 1605?

Silly brits.

[kookbreaker]

Everyone knows gunpowder doesn't burn hot enough to melt bricks.

[vidiviciveni]

May 11, 1605?

Silly brits.

funny very :D

[peteweaver]

King James the first also tried to ban smoking... The smoking fuse of Guy Fawkes was all part of the plan so that King James could unleash his 'Counterblaste'.

See, after the gunpowder plot had been exposed, and catholic militants were shown to have been the culprit, in a fit of absolute classic conspiratorial moustache twiddling, instead pipe smokers get the blame and he was then free to issue draconian anti smoking laws. And erm, by connecting to 100% unrelated issues, that makes me a 'truth' seeker doesn't it ?

[njslim]

May 11, 1605?

Silly brits.

Thats problem with Brits - do everything Bass Ackwards ie, drive on wrong side of road,
drink their tea hot and their beer hotter. Geez no wonder we had a revolution.....

[Jonnyclueless]

Wasn't the parliament constructed with gun powder?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Damn those shapeshifting lizards!

[PixyMisa]

It was the Papists!

No, wait...

[TriskettheKid]

Guy Fawkes was framed. Everyone KNOWS that if a STEEL-FRAMED building could withstand the impact of a comet then a masonry-framed building could withstand TWO comet impacts.

You can't blow up a building with gunpowder. He was framed. Framed I tells ya.

[peteweaver]

Thats problem with Brits - do everything Bass Ackwards ie, drive on wrong side of road,
drink their tea hot and their beer hotter. Geez no wonder we had a revolution.....

The warm beer thing is largely a myth. I don't know anyone who drinks warm beer. The cellar at my local pub is refrigerated.

And we had a revolution before you did.

We Brits gave the world electricity, telephones, televisions, invented the electronic computer, gave the world steam engines, anti biotics, invented heavier than air flight (Sir George Cayley's glider) invented iron ships with Brunel's SS Great Britain, and more recently the world wide web.

So don't knock Brits ok :p

[Diagoras]

We Brits gave the world electricity, telephones, televisions, invented the electronic computer, gave the world steam engines, anti biotics, invented heavier than air flight (Sir George Cayley's glider) invented iron ships with Brunel's SS Great Britain, and more recently the world wide web.

So don't knock Brits ok :p

You forgot Monty Python.

[peteweaver]

I didn't want to sound too boastful mate, the best things speak for themselves.

[TriskettheKid]

We Brits gave the world electricity, telephones, televisions, invented the electronic computer, gave the world steam engines, anti biotics, invented heavier than air flight (Sir George Cayley's glider) invented iron ships with Brunel's SS Great Britain, and more recently the world wide web.

Uh.....I thought most of those things didn't come from the Brits.

Antibiotics, I'm quite sure of, were first discovered by the French and first used effectively by the Germans. The electronic computer (fully electronic, all-purpose computer) was the ENIAC, which was made at UPenn, in Philadelphia. As for the Internet, I'm also quite sure that it dates back to ARPAnet, which was developed in the US.

[peteweaver]

Uh.....I thought most of those things didn't come from the Brits.

Antibiotics, I'm quite sure of, were first discovered by the French and first used effectively by the Germans. The electronic computer (fully electronic, all-purpose computer) was the ENIAC, which was made at UPenn, in Philadelphia. As for the Internet, I'm also quite sure that it dates back to ARPAnet, which was developed in the US.

Antibiotics, began with the research of Sir Joseph Lister, and led to Alexander Fleming's discovery of Penicillin 60 years later.

And the first electronic computer was designed and built by Post Office Engineer Tommy Flowers, a contemporary of Alan Turing, as a personal project. It led to the collossus, Bletchley Parks famous codebreaking machine which was used to crack enigma ciphers during WW2.

[Dave Rogers]

As for the Internet, I'm also quite sure that it dates back to ARPAnet, which was developed in the US.

Dear, dear. Type out one thousand times, "The World Wide Web is not the Internet."

The computer and antibiotics are debatable, but the WWW isn't. Sorry.

Dave

[peteweaver]

Facts about Tommy Flowers:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A1010070
.....................................
And in keeping with the thread being about bonfire night, after inventing the electronic computer, Tommy Flowers invented a time machine, which he cunningly disguised as a GPO Telephone box, travelled back in time, and met Guido Fawkes for a pint of warm beer, thus delaying poor Guido, and bringing about his capture...

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

Two words:

Time Travel.

Obviously Prescott Bush's twin brother Billy traveled through time and attempted to wire up the entire parliament to CD, however, Guido Fawkes was drunk the night before, and hungover on Nov 5th, and the CD had to be ditched. Billy Bush spent the rest of the year unwiring and hiding the explosives. He then traveled forward in time to hide out as an entertainment reporter.

[westprog]

Antibiotics, began with the research of Sir Joseph Lister, and led to Alexander Fleming's discovery of Penicillin 60 years later.

And the first electronic computer was designed and built by Post Office Engineer Tommy Flowers, a contemporary of Alan Turing, as a personal project. It led to the collossus, Bletchley Parks famous codebreaking machine which was used to crack enigma ciphers during WW2.

The Wikipaedia article is quite good at describing the possible stages at which a machine can be said to be the first. Babbage, Colossus and the Manchester SSEM are all competitors for primacy, but so are Atanasoff-Berry, Harvard and ENIAC.

The Zuse appears to preceed all of them apart from Babbage. LEO 1 was the first business computer, used to run the Lyons Tea House business.

[Apollo20]

The big questions for me are:

1. How did the conspirators move the 36 barrels of gunpowder into the basement of the Houses of Parliament without anyone noticing?

2. We are told it was gunpowder, because analysis of the powder in the barrels showed the presence of SULFUR; but was it really thermate?

3. Was Robert Cecil in on it?

[dudalb]

It was a false flag operation by the Puritans to provoke a crackdown by King James on the Catholics.(I have heard that theory seriously advanced.)

BTW Antonia Fraser's "Faith and Treason" is highly recommended as a book on the topic.
It is still crazy that a Roman Catholic fantatic who basically wanted to turn the clock back to around 1500 as far as religon goes has become a anarchist symbol to the Twoofers,courtesy of Alan Moore.
I would bet that 90% of the Twoofers who display the Guy Fawkes/"V For Vendetta" symbol have no idea of who the historic Guido Fawkes was.

[Unsecured Coins]

The big questions for me are:

1. How did the conspirators move the 36 barrels of gunpowder into the basement of the Houses of Parliament without anyone noticing?
There was a "power down" the night before. And by power down, there was a shortage of lamp oil. So they came up with a plan to invade Iraq after the event so they could keep the lamps on


2. We are told it was gunpowder, because analysis of the powder in the barrels showed the presence of SULFUR; but was it really thermate?
It was a combination of thermatic gunpowder to throw off bomb sniffing dogs.

3. Was Robert Cecil in on it?
Probably. You can't trust guys with 2 first names anyhow, and you REALLY can't trust a guy named Cecil to begin with

[peteweaver]

Don't you mean phreato thermatic self raising gunpowder ?

[Dave Rogers]

I watched a program on this last night where some people who might have been the Braniac team (Richard Hammond was the presenter) had built a full-sized model of the House of Lords on a disused airfield, packed a ton of gunpowder in the undercroft, and blown it up. Apart from it being way cool, of course, I couldn't help watching them repeat angle after angle of the explosion and thinking that if a charge anything like that size had gone off in the WTC towers, nobody would be arguing about whether or not it was a controlled demolition, because half of New York would still be deaf. Controlled demolitions are like an elephant in your living room; if you're not sure whether there is one, there isn't.

Of course, all this really means is that the whole program was disinfo and the Hamster is in on the 9-11 plot. Maybe the car crash was just a NWO false flag operation to wipe his memories of the planning of this program, and they rigged it so that the impact on his head would destroy those specific memories while not affecting his ability to present Top Gear. I believe the latter function resides in the stem anyway. Is that enough of a conspiracy angle for this thread?

Dave

[peteweaver]

Ah but the brainiac gunpowder plot programme was just a cover, because top gear have been developing a fleet of space shuttles made from modified Reliant Robin's, with which they aim to colonise the universe.

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Their rocket prototype failed and came down with a crash.

[Undesired Walrus]

We have Charles Darwin, Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking.

Nuff said.

[Dave_46]

This was on Radio 4 yesterday (5 Nov)
From "An Utterly Impartial History of Britain" by humourist John O'Farrell, discussing the gunpowder plot.

...It is quite possible that the letter to Montague was a forgery by the security services, who had known about the plot for some time, but were waiting for the last moment to expose it, thus creating the maximum impact, and giving themselves the widest rein to act against the conspirators, and, any other Catholics they didn't like the look of. If this was the case then it was certainly very effective. But, current conspiracy theories that the whole thing was cooked up by the Protestant establishment, probably with the help of the CIA and the Israeli security services don't really stand the test of looking at any source material that is not on the internet...

Dave

[A W Smith]

Howcome all the Guy Fawkes masks look nothing like Guy Fawkes?

[Darat]

Because they are meant to look like the Pope!

[Disbelief]

Howcome all the Guy Fawkes masks look nothing like Guy Fawkes?

Because that pic you posted is disinfo.

[Reeco]

Using the day/month/year format makes more sense than using month/day/year, as the units increase in "size" as you read from left to right. I'd say this is logical, just like the decimal system.