The Keymaster's latest

[Alferd_Packer]

http://wweek.com/wwire/?p=9889

In 2004, Rodriguez filed a civil lawsuit against President Bush and other high-up members of the government, accusing them of knowingly failing to act, prevent or warn the public about 9/11 . But the Puerto Rican-born man said his attorney began adding in conspiracy theories to his account, so he distanced himself from the lawsuit.

What a liar this man is.


Yet some of the claims Rodriguez has made about 9/11 don’t add up. He says an explosion occurred seven seconds before the first plane hit the towers, and came from below, not above. But when he first began to report this, he described the explosion as a “rumble,” like furniture moving. Today, he remembers it as a “POW!” Rodriguez claims the difference is due to translation errors, but his accounts of the explosion have gotten more and more dramatic over the years.

Translation errors? Give me a break. You spoke English on CNN!!!

At the time, Rodriguez claims he was being courted by members of the Republican Party , whose names he won’t disclose, to run for political office. “I was going with the official story,” he says.

Yeah right.

Rodriguez believes he’s been sent “on a mission” to act as a voice for these communities. “I was given the opportunity to survive and now I’m doing that mission.” And he’s not exactly happy about it: He says “it’s a burden” and he “hates” doing it.


Well finally something honest from him, he is filled with self loathing for the world of lies which he has created.

[The Doc]

Translation errors?! That's the worst excuse I have ever heard.

[Disbelief]

Red won't like this quote:

Rodriguez also previously claimed a large fireball shot through the elevator shaft, exploding through the doors and burning the skin off one man’s body. But three years ago, Rodriguez began to back away from his account, claiming it was impossible for a fireball to have existed. Now, he says he was just going along with the official accounts of the New York fire department. “I was repeating everything as they told me to,” he says.

[Slayhamlet]

Red won't like this quote:

He was repeating everything the FDNY was telling him? When was he in contact with the FDNY? Is Rodriguez now claiming that they were keeping tabs on him? That would mean they were in on it then, wouldn't it?

[Gravy]

Good to see a semi-skeptical treatment from a writer of one of these pieces. I think that's a first.

He says “it’s a burden” and he “hates” doing it.
He hates it so much that he's made it his only work.

[Slayhamlet]

Good to see a semi-skeptical treatment from a writer of one of these pieces. I think that's a first.


He hates it so much that he's made it his only work.

Cue Twoofers calling it a "hit piece"...

[T.A.M.]

Good to see a semi-skeptical treatment from a writer of one of these pieces. I think that's a first.


He hates it so much that he's made it his only work.

I agree. It is hard to do the details the skeptical justice they deserve, when the emotions of the event coupled with treading the fine line of respect for a man who was a hero on that day, push you to be soft on it.

TAM:)

[A W Smith]

Rodriguez will be in Portland on Tuesday, Nov. 6, where he will talk about his experiences and what he plans to do in the future at Berbati’s Pan, 231 SW Ankeny, at 7 pm . Admission $10

welcome to the "truth" industry

[dudalb]

It was ten bucks in Sacramento also.
And I really ,really dislike that he is calling his speaking engagements "The Last Man Out Tour". That cheapens the whole thing with a lame comparasion to a rock concert tour to try to make it seem cool.
He has been seduced to the Dark Side,methinks.

[RedIbis]

Red won't like this quote:

Why? I never contested he described a fireball. For some reason you guys concluded the fireball had to be from jetfuel.

That's the subtlety you seem to be missing.

[CHF]

Today, he remembers it as a “POW!” Rodriguez claims the difference is due to translation errors, but his accounts of the explosion have gotten more and more dramatic over the years.

Translation errors? The man clearly isn't even trying anymore.

I sure hope Dylan gave Willy a lot of face time in Final Cut. Can't wait to hear him describe the nuclear detonation in the sub-levels.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

It was ten bucks in Sacramento also.
And I really ,really dislike that he is calling his speaking engagements "The Last Man Out Tour". That cheapens the whole thing with a lame comparasion to a rock concert tour to try to make it seem cool.


His definition of "last man out" is also incredibly shaky and deceptive, considering there were four(?) individuals in a stairwell that survived the collapse of that tower.

[Gravy]

His definition of "last man out" is also incredibly shaky and deceptive, considering there were four(?) individuals in a stairwell that survived the collapse of that tower.16 in that stairwell, two others in the north tower, and two PAPD officers who were trapped in the concourse by both collapses (the subject of the film "World Trade Center"). Why Rodriguez wants to diminish what they went through, I'll never know.

[CHF]

16 in that stairwell, two others in the north tower, and two PAPD officers who were trapped in the concourse by both collapses (the subject of the film "World Trade Center"). Why Rodriguez wants to diminish what they went through, I'll never know.

I'm guessing it's because "21st last guy out of the tower" doesn't sell as many tickets on a speaking tour.

[LashL]

http://wweek.com/wwire/?p=9889

What a liar this man is.


Indeed. That's what he does best these days.

[portlandatheist]

This venue is just a few blocks away from my office. I'm tempted to go see it but I think I would just get upset

[chillzero]

Off topic posts regarding LCFC moved here:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98003

Fireball discussions moved to new thread:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98021

Please stay civil and on topic.

[Disbelief]

Why? I never contested he described a fireball. For some reason you guys concluded the fireball had to be from jetfuel.


You are correct, and I mistakenly attributed something to you which you have not stated. I apologize for the mistake.


That's the subtlety you seem to be missing.

Nope, not missing the subtlety, just missing my brain in this case. I understand how you are differentiating, even if I do not agree with your conclusion.