Crimes in the AFTERMATH of 9/11?

[BenBurch]

Has anybody here looked into the government knowledge of the danger of air and dust in Lower Manhattan in the weeks after 9/11?

Did they really know how bad it was and choose to keep silent for fear of causing an economic crisis in the Financial District or other reasons?

This isn't strictly a CT, but its 9/11-related so I was unsure where to put it. Mods feel free to relocate.

[JAStewart]

I don't think that it was ever said to be safe.

[MWare]

I don't think that it was ever said to be safe.

On September 18, 2001 United States Environmental Protection Agency head Christine Todd Whitman told the public, via a press release, "We are very encouraged that the results from our monitoring of air-quality and drinking-water conditions in both New York and near the Pentagon show that the public in these areas is not being exposed to excessive levels of asbestos or other harmful substances" and that "Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York . . . that their air is safe to breathe and the water is safe to drink."

Source: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0648,lombardi,75156,2.html

[Sabrina]

The EPA did a study on it that found some dangerous elements in the air, but it was never to my knowledge determined one way or another if the government said the air was either fine or dangerous to breathe. I do know that the first responders and workers sent in to work in the site were always issued masks; I believe many of them chose not to wear them on a constant basis while on site though.

[dudalb]

And the Masks might have been due to the dust and crap in the air at ANY Building Demolition site,and the crap might not have extended much beyond the actual WTC site.

[leftysergeant]

And the Masks might have been due to the dust and crap in the air at ANY Building Demolition site,and the crap might not have extended much beyond the actual WTC site.

As long as the fires were burning, they were releasing toxic hydrocarbons. The dust was pretty limited to Manhattan, but there is every reason to believe that the hydrocarbons and exotic chemicals produced in the fire had a great impact on air quality for miles, depending on weather conditions on any given day. The city really should have been evacuated, at least partially.

With the advent of computers., there is no reason most of the operations other than retailing and manufacturing ( as though anybody was doing that much of it any way) could easily have been moved to Philly or Chicago.

The re-opening of the Manhattan business district was all show and flummery. Call it propoganda or psyops. But it was poorly thought-out.

[Gravy]

Be careful to distinguish between official statements about air quality in lower Manhattan in general and statements about air quality at Ground Zero. Ground Zero was always considered to be unsafe and personal protective equipment (once it was available) was required to be used within the "green line" established by OSHA.

Details here: Ground Zero Worker Health Issues, Environmental Testing (http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/groundzerositesafety%2Cworkerhealthissues)

[Gravy]

As long as the fires were burning, they were releasing toxic hydrocarbons. The dust was pretty limited to Manhattan, but there is every reason to believe that the hydrocarbons and exotic chemicals produced in the fire had a great impact on air quality for miles, depending on weather conditions on any given day.Do you have evidence of this?

With the advent of computers., there is no reason most of the operations other than retailing and manufacturing ( as though anybody was doing that much of it any way) could easily have been moved to Philly or Chicago.Sorry, but that's just wrong.

[Brainster]

It's only CT in the title of the post, I suppose.:rolleyes:

[Bell]

Apparently this is going to be a (big) deal in LC:Final Insult...

“It was also good to see the coverage of the EPA’s lies to the rescue workers when they told them that the air was safe to breathe after the three WTC collapses. This is an issue often sidelined in other films. Loose Change Final Edition includes an interview with John Feal of the Feal Good Foundation (fealgoodfoundation.com) and many other citizens, victims of 9/11 who were betrayed by their government.”

http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/loose-change-final-cut-–-uk-premier/1657/

[Gravy]

Apparently this is going to be a (big) deal in LC:Final Insult...Yeah, the Loosers care a lot about first responders. That's why their executive producer accuses the firefighters of manslaughter and conspiracy, and their researcher says the firefighters have bowed to threats to keep silent.

Oh, they sure care.

[Drudgewire]

Yeah, the Loosers care a lot about first responders. That's why their executive producer accuses the firefighters of manslaughter and conspiracy, and their researcher says the firefighters have bowed to threats to keep silent.

Oh, they sure care.
Exactly. It's a real issue that could stand real discussion. But them latching onto it is the absolute height of hypocricy.

[dudalb]

Yeah, the Loosers care a lot about first responders. That's why their executive producer accuses the firefighters of manslaughter and conspiracy, and their researcher says the firefighters have bowed to threats to keep silent.

Oh, they sure care.

Ah, yes,the truthers weep the same kind of tears over the First Responders that the Walrus (in the Lewis Carroll poem) shed over the Oysters he had just eaten.

[Bell]

Exactly. It's a real issue that could stand real discussion. But them latching onto it is the absolute height of hypocricy.

"Donating x% of their Final Insult profits to (the families of) the 9/11 victims" and "protesting at the United 93 premier" fits that bill as well.

[LastChild]

EPA Misled Public on 9/11 Pollution
White House ordered false assurances on air quality, report says
by Laurie Garrett Newsday

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0823-03.htm

Rep. Jerry Nadler, a Manhattan Democrat, called for a Justice Department investigation. "That the White House instructed EPA officials to downplay the health impact of the World Trade Center contaminants due to 'competing considerations' at the expense of the health and lives of New York City residents is an abomination," he said in a news release.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said in an interview it was "understandable that in the midst of a crisis the White House did not want the EPA to sound alarmist." But, he warned, "If the public loses faith that things are safe when the government says so, we'll have done more damage than a pointed statement the week after 9/11 would have."

[BenBurch]

...and their researcher says the firefighters have bowed to threats to keep silent.

Which of course makes them accessories after the fact.