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parky76
6th November 2007, 06:39 PM
Not really. But what would happen if Colin Powell, or Bill Clinton, or Al Gore, or Newt Gingrich, or some other respected political official in the USA became a believer in the 9-11 Denial myth?

It has not happened yet, but the farther away we go from 9-11, the more likely it will be that someone of significance will join the nutty bandwagon.

So what happens then? Will 9-11 Truth suddenly become legit? Will it lead to a new look at the day..which will utterly obliterate the Truth movemant?

Its something to think about.

PhantomWolf
6th November 2007, 06:51 PM
Depends. Those that like to follow the crowd and be "popular" might be swayed, but then they'd be swayed back as soon as the media lost interest again. Those that have got a good background in science and are willing to research and think for themselves instead of parroting what they read on a website or what some celeb says will justy think that the guy/girl has gone nuts, aka Charlie Sheen and Rosie.

It's a bit like the question of would you reconsider Apollo if Neil Armstrong claimed it was faked. The answer is no, not unless he provided the evidence of how it was done and why the overwhelming evidence we have now that it happened in in fact wrong. Unless the celeb that claimed 9/11 was an inside job could show some devastatingly new evidence that proved their claims then they have nothing more than Jones or Woods do now.

parky76
6th November 2007, 06:55 PM
This is true. If Colin Powell or someone else simply became swayed by the same garbage we have seen from Alex Jones or Dylan Avery, then everyone would question that person's sanity and grasp of science. But if they have something new and substantial..that would be something else.

BenBurch
6th November 2007, 07:05 PM
I'd reply that obviously poor Colin is in his dotage.

hellaeon
6th November 2007, 07:22 PM
Yeah but wouldn't he already be part of the team behind the conspiracy?

Reality Believer
6th November 2007, 07:25 PM
Those people are the ones that should be "in on it", and likely candidates as whistle blowers. How about adding George Tenet and Richard Clark as well? Anyone hear a peep from them either? Yea, I hear crickets as well...

beachnut
6th November 2007, 07:31 PM
Not really. But what would happen if Colin Powell, or Bill Clinton, or Al Gore, or Newt Gingrich, or some other respected political official in the USA became a believer in the 9-11 Denial myth?

It has not happened yet, but the farther away we go from 9-11, the more likely it will be that someone of significance will join the nutty bandwagon.

So what happens then? Will 9-11 Truth suddenly become legit? Will it lead to a new look at the day..which will utterly obliterate the Truth movemant?

Its something to think about.
Only possible if they are brain dead. Colin Powell is too smart for this BS.

Caper
6th November 2007, 07:39 PM
He'd probably become a believer....... then a no planner.

Arkan_Wolfshade
6th November 2007, 09:00 PM
What they believe in matters little; what evidence they can present to support their beliefs matters a lot more.

bofors
6th November 2007, 09:24 PM
But what would happen if Colin Powell, or Bill Clinton, or Al Gore, or Newt Gingrich, or some other respected political official in the USA became a believer in the 9-11 Denial myth?

You seem to be assuming that they do not already know the truth of 9/11 or otherwise believe the "conspiracy theory".

No, what you really mean to say is: What if so & so comes out and says they question the official 9/11 story?

It is exactly these types of logical errors that seem to confuse this forum about 9/11 so much.

So much for critical thinking at JREF...

Quad4_72
6th November 2007, 09:27 PM
You seem to be assuming that they do not already know the truth of 9/11 or otherwise believe the "conspiracy theory".

No, what you really mean to say is: What if so & so comes out and says they question the official 9/11 story?

It is exactly these types of logical errors that seem to confuse this forum about 9/11 so much.

So much for critical thinking at JREF...

He is not assuming anything about them. He knows that they know the REAL truth about 9/11, which is that 19 Arab hijackers crashed planes into buildings...he was simply giving a hypothetical for discussion. Leave it to you though to come and post something silly.

westprog
7th November 2007, 05:20 AM
Not really. But what would happen if Colin Powell, or Bill Clinton, or Al Gore, or Newt Gingrich, or some other respected political official in the USA became a believer in the 9-11 Denial myth?

It has not happened yet, but the farther away we go from 9-11, the more likely it will be that someone of significance will join the nutty bandwagon.

So what happens then? Will 9-11 Truth suddenly become legit? Will it lead to a new look at the day..which will utterly obliterate the Truth movemant?

Its something to think about.

I'd imagine that Nader or McGovern might be a possibility.

Sabrina
7th November 2007, 06:45 AM
You seem to be assuming that they do not already know the truth of 9/11 or otherwise believe the "conspiracy theory".

No, what you really mean to say is: What if so & so comes out and says they question the official 9/11 story?

It is exactly these types of logical errors that seem to confuse this forum about 9/11 so much.

So much for critical thinking at JREF...

Questioning the official story and believing in an inside job are two very different animals. I still have questions regarding what happened that day, but I accept that it's unlikely they'll ever be answered to my satisfaction, as the resources involved in making an exhaustive investigation into the failures of the intelligence community to connect the dots prior to 9/11 would be prohibitive by most estimates. I happen to work within the US Intelligence Community, although I would not call myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination; but you could call me a professional in that arena. So I suppose you could say that I question the official story to some extent (look out, any day I'll be fraudulently added to that Patriots question 9/11 page!), but I absolutely do not believe 9/11 was an inside job. Not only does the evidence not support such an assertion, common sense and logic show that it would be virtually impossible to carry out.

In all honesty, my initial reaction to someone like Colin Powell or another well respected member of the DoD community saying they question what happened or what led up to that day would most likely be incredulity, but I do believe that ultimately I would check out whatever their issues are to see if there is any answer to their question or if I can manage to understand their issue(s) with that day. I would hope, however, that any respected member of the DoD would have taken the time to do their research.

Foolmewunz
7th November 2007, 07:03 AM
[ignoring bofors' derail mode]

There will come a time when someone prominent turns out to be a 911 CT believer. But, IMHO, it'll be in about a generation from now. In,say, 2030, probably afer I've shed this mortal coil, someone will rise to prominence when this nonsense is relegated to street-corner pamphleteers and one visit a day bloggers, and later in their career it will turn out that they believe in 911 CT.

In the current generation, I don't think it's possible. There's too much factual evidence overwhelmingly stacked against the CTists. But, yeah,... in a couple of decades I can see getting someone into office who has a crackpot skeleton in their closet.

[/ignoring bofor's derail mode]

Arkan_Wolfshade
7th November 2007, 09:26 AM
You seem to be assuming that they do not already know the truth of 9/11 or otherwise believe the "conspiracy theory".

No, what you really mean to say is: What if so & so comes out and says they question the official 9/11 story?

It is exactly these types of logical errors that seem to confuse this forum about 9/11 so much.

So much for critical thinking at JREF...
That you, bofors, disagree with the assumption upon which parky76 made his hypothetical in order to pose the question, does not make it a logical error. Since parky76 is not drawing a conclusion based upon the premise that is used to form the question, and it is not a complex question (e.g. Do you agree that we should lower taxes and increase prosperity?); you're claim of there being a "logical error" is invalid.

einsteen
7th November 2007, 09:32 AM
btw I remember Powell saying "act of war" which he later changed to "act of terror"

But do you folks think that LIHOP is also ridiculous, what about Curt Weldon and Able Danger ?

Arkan_Wolfshade
7th November 2007, 09:34 AM
btw I remember Powell saying "act of war" which he later changed to "act of terror"

But do you folks think that LIHOP is also ridiculous, what about Curt Weldon and Able Danger ?
Hello?! You've been around here long enough to have seen the threads, and you also know how to use the search function. Stop being obtuse.

einsteen
7th November 2007, 09:40 AM
You're right A.W, I'm too lazy...shame

firecoins
7th November 2007, 01:19 PM
Not really. But what would happen if Colin Powell, or Bill Clinton, or Al Gore, or Newt Gingrich, or some other respected political official in the USA became a believer in the 9-11 Denial myth?

It has not happened yet, but the farther away we go from 9-11, the more likely it will be that someone of significance will join the nutty bandwagon.

So what happens then? Will 9-11 Truth suddenly become legit? Will it lead to a new look at the day..which will utterly obliterate the Truth movemant?

Its something to think about.
Newt Gingrich is a respected politician? :confused: