Rockefeller

[MarkyX]

Alright, someone enlighten me on this. What's the deal with the Rockefeller family and who started the original theories? I always see 9/11 deniers bring it up, as if it were scientific proof the towers were bought down by bombs.

[Hyperviolet]

Apparantly Rockefeller 'owns' the Federal Reserve. He is 'admittedly' illuminati, and he started such things as the Trilateral Commission, which is a globalist tool for World Government.

[sophia8]

And the Rockefellers have got pots and pots of money - more money than any of the Twoofers could ever hope to see- so that makes them really really eeeeviiiiiil.

[Unsecured Coins]

This is what I heard... know all those gold Boston Philharmonic coins they hawk on TV? I heard he has piles of PLATINUM plated ones...

[CurtC]

You see quoted a lot a snippet from David Rockefeller's memoir:
For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will.

If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

[JAStewart]

I always imagine David R to have rockstar hair. He doesn't.

[Alareth]

And the Rockefellers have got pots and pots of money - more money than any of the Twoofers could ever hope to see- so that makes them really really eeeeviiiiiil.


That's it in a nutshell. In the mind of many CT's anyone who reaches any level of success, wealth or power is automatically suspect.

[Dave Rogers]

Alright, someone enlighten me on this. What's the deal with the Rockefeller family and who started the original theories? I always see 9/11 deniers bring it up, as if it were scientific proof the towers were bought down by bombs.

Are you familiar with Alex Jones's interview with Aaron Russo?

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/281006_rockefeller_911.html

Russo claims that Paul Rockefeller told him that there would be "an event" leading to, among other things, an invasion of Venezuela. Oh, and Afghanistan and Iraq. And RFID chips, the oil pipeline and women's lib.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/353636.shtml

has some more details.

Dave

[MarkyX]

You see quoted a lot a snippet from David Rockefeller's memoir:

Is that even true, or a complete fabrication?

[GreNME]

Oh, don't forget OMG TEH J00z!!!eleventy!!!1

[Alex_V]

You see quoted a lot a snippet from David Rockefeller's memoir:

That quote is on page 4xx of Rockefeller's memoir - imagine the conspiracy theorist who read through 400+ pages in the attempt to find a quote worth repeating!

I expect the rest of the memoir (which is never quoted and is presumably uncontroversial) proves exactly why the accusations towards him and the Rockefeller's are wide of the mark...

[CurtC]

Is that even true, or a complete fabrication?

My guess is that what he is guilty (and proud) of is the part about "characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will."

And not so much the "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States."

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

You see quoted a lot a snippet from David Rockefeller's memoir:
Which gets back to the same thing I've confronted anti-NAFTA, anti-NAU, etc people on; why does internationalization/globalization automagically imply bad?

[Hyperviolet]

Is that even true, or a complete fabrication?

It's on page 405 of his book, Memoirs.
The quote is simply an admission that he does indeed work for a more integrated economic and political structure. Conspiracists, however, believe it's an admission of evil.

[Reality Believer]

Alright, someone enlighten me on this. What's the deal with the Rockefeller family and who started the original theories? I always see 9/11 deniers bring it up, as if it were scientific proof the towers were bought down by bombs.

I'm not sure, but I would be willing to bet Kevin Bacon is tied into the chain of culprits somehow. :rolleyes:

[Belz...]

Which gets back to the same thing I've confronted anti-NAFTA, anti-NAU, etc people on; why does internationalization/globalization automagically imply bad?

Huh ? What do you mean "why" ? It's GLOBAL, man!!

[CurtC]

It's on page 405 of his book, Memoirs.
The quote is simply an admission that he does indeed work for a more integrated economic and political structure. Conspiracists, however, believe it's an admission of evil.

Well, it does read like he's saying he's proud of being "part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States."

[dudalb]

Because the Rockerfeller's are the most famous of America's wealthy families.That they made their fortune in Oil (in fact you can argue that John Rockerfeller was the founder of the Oil Industry as we know it) just adds to the suspicion.

[pomeroo]

Which gets back to the same thing I've confronted anti-NAFTA, anti-NAU, etc people on; why does internationalization/globalization automagically imply bad?


For the same reason a natural gas pipeline through Central Asia is bad. It's bad because...uh...a pipeline is a bad thing because...wait! I've got it! It's bad because someone somewhere would be making money. What's worse than that?

[Hyperviolet]

Well, it does read like he's saying he's proud of being "part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States."

I can see why it might read like that, however, his wording is careful.

Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will.

If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

It's worded so much that he saying:
"Some people actually believe that my family is part of a secret group working against the US because we want a more integrated society. Well, if that's a crime to you, then yes i'm guilty. I do want a more integrated society."

When hyphenating, he is breaking the sentence up into 2 parts.

"One world, if you will"
Is what he is agreeing to. Not admitting to being part of a cabal working against the US.

Rockefeller does want integration. Openly, as he says.
However, conspiracists assume his motivations for expansion are evil. Simply a ploy to "control the world."
He believes that the benefits of his business actions have made America a better place, and through globalizing trade, the world a better place.

From Memoirs:
"Populists and isolationists ignore the tangible benefits that have resulted from our active international role during the past half-century. Not only was the very real threat posed by Soviet Communism overcome, but there have been fundamental improvements in societies around the world, particularly in the United States, as a result of global trade, improved communications, and the heightened interaction of people from different cultures. Populists rarely mention these positive consequences, nor can they cogently explain how they would have sustained American economic growth and the expansion of our political power without them.

[pomeroo]

My guess is that what he is guilty (and proud) of is the part about "characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will."

And not so much the "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States."


Some moron on the Conspiracy Smasher blog trots out this quote whenever his latest fantasy has been destroyed. I point out that the guilty party here is the editor of the book. Of course Rockefeller is proud of being an internationalist. The reason we should strongly suspect that he is not alluding to the part about the secret cabal is that it would no longer be a secret cabal if he were. While this sort of reasoning would not tax a normal child, it far beyond the capacity of any twoofer.