Loose Change FC U.S. Theatrical Premiere, Nov. 11, Minneapolis (erm, matinee)

[Gravy]

This was passed on by another forumite. Riverview Theater (http://riverviewtheater.com/hong_kong.cfm).

LOOSE CHANGE: FINAL CUT (Nov 11 at 4:30pm)
Premiere showing of film dealing with 9/11 issues. Filmmaker will be present for screening. Admission is $6. Advance tickets now on sale.

Only 2,999 more screens to go!

[CptColumbo]

This was passed on by another forumite. Riverview Theater (http://riverviewtheater.com/hong_kong.cfm).

LOOSE CHANGE: FINAL CUT (Nov 11 at 4:30pm)
Premiere showing of film dealing with 9/11 issues. Filmmaker will be present for screening. Admission is $6. Advance tickets now on sale.

Only 2,999 more screens to go!Do I have to go?

[qarnos]

Premiere showing of film dealing with 9/11 issues.

Isn't that a bit... misleading?

[jhunter1163]

Dylan's going to be there? I'm waiting for him to send out an e-mail asking for money to pay for his plane ticket...

ETA: They're asking $6 per head, when the regular price is $2 for matinees and $3 for evening. My guess is they'll get less than 20 attendees.

[qarnos]

Dylan's going to be there? I'm waiting for him to send out an e-mail asking for money to pay for his plane ticket...

ETA: They're asking $6 per head, when the regular price is $2 for matinees and $3 for evening. My guess is they'll get less than 20 attendees.

That was a typo. It was meant to read:

Filmmaker will be presented for screaming.

[hellaeon]

Would be cool for dylan to setup a proper debate/question time afterwards but the chances of such a format are less then 0

[CptColumbo]

Gravy,
If you have a ready made pamphlet I could stand outside and hand it out. I checked with the city and as long as I don't block the sidewalk or entrance it is legal. If Totovader is available he can tape it, or vice-versa. PM me if you have other ideas.

The other Mark

[OldTigerCub]

This was passed on by another forumite. Riverview Theater (http://riverviewtheater.com/hong_kong.cfm).

LOOSE CHANGE: FINAL CUT (Nov 11 at 4:30pm)
Premiere showing of film dealing with 9/11 issues. Filmmaker will be present for screening. Admission is $6. Advance tickets now on sale.

Only 2,999 more screens to go!

I think I'll wait for it to show up on Google and YouTube....at about 5:30 on the 11th...so I can ignore it there for nothing....:p

[JMarshall]

hmmm.... Minneapolis, well, that's just a couple of hours drive... Man would I love to meet him, and shake his hand, and break his jaw... Oooh, hmm a bit outwardly destructive today, don't worry I'll just do my yoga, and I'll be fine...

[Brainache]

Well Gravy I hope you've got enough bottles to store all of your tears, because from what I hear, you won't be able to debunk a word of this new improved Truth. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[CHF]

I get the feeling that the crowd is gonna look pretty lost in a 700+ seat theater.

The local Toronto twoofers staged a screening of "Shadow play" in a similar venue and drew 70 people.

[CptColumbo]

I get the feeling that the crowd is gonna look pretty lost in a 700+ seat theater.

The local Toronto twoofers staged a screening of "Shadow play" in a similar venue and drew 70 people.That's about what they drew (a little less) for "Press for Truth" in the same theatre, and that was a free screening. If they had a showing at Uptown or the Lagoon, it would draw more, because more of their target audience lives in the Uptown area.

It's a nice theatre. My Grandmother lived a few block away.

[CptColumbo]

Vikes are playing Green Bay on Sunday, but its a noon game. Still, if the Vikes win it could cut into their attendance.

SKOL VIKINGS!

[Good Lt]

Stay tuned to LCF for pictures of the event from the five attendees.

[Totovader]

I think I need to make up some t-shirts quick for a protest "Fact-Free Zone"...

[CptColumbo]

Is it libelous to hold a sign that says "Dylan is a liar?"

[qarnos]

The other Mark

MarkyX is "the other Mark".

You will have to settle for "the other other Mark". Any complaints can be sent to NWO kitty, although it would be advisable to make your funeral arrangements beforehand.

[Gravy]

Gravy,
If you have a ready made pamphlet I could stand outside and hand it out. I checked with the city and as long as I don't block the sidewalk or entrance it is legal. If Totovader is available he can tape it, or vice-versa. PM me if you have other ideas.

The other MarkI think ignoring it is the best policy. These guys desperately need to drum up attention, so why give them more vanity video material? I assume the matinee audience will be mostly truthers, so probably will not be terribly receptive to pamphleting. I almost never watch truther videos, and I'll only watch this one if someone says there's something new in it that needs to be addressed.

That said, it would be funny to go as a really intense and obnoxious fan who shouts things like "Wolfotwitz killed my nieces!" and "Hell, yeah! Now that's what I call animation!" and "What happened to Cleveland? Where the hell did Cleveland go?" and who unsuccessfully tries to lead the audience in a chant of "6.5 seconds! 6.5 seconds!"

[CptColumbo]

I think ignoring it is the best policy. These guys desperately need to drum up attention, so why give them more vanity video material? I assume the matinee audience will be mostly truthers, so probably will not terribly receptive to pamphleting. I almost never watch truther videos, and I'll only watch this one if someone says there's something new in it that needs to be addressed.

That said, it would be funny to go as a really intense and obnoxious fan who shouts things like "Wolfotwitz killed my nieces!" and "Hell, yeah! Now that's what I call animation!" and "What happened to Cleveland? Where the hell did Cleveland go?" and who unsuccessfully tries to lead the audience in a chant of "6.5 seconds! 6.5 seconds!"
Aw c'mon. If the Vikes lose this could be the lead story on the news. KARE11 will cover anything.

[Hokulele]

If someone can convince Favre to go "risky pass happy" as he tends to do at least once a month, the Vikes stand a decent chance.

[OldTigerCub]

If someone can convince Favre to go "risky pass happy" as he tends to do at least once a month, the Vikes stand a decent chance.

:eek: but Brett has a lot of spectacular pass plays left in him (not that the Stillers couldn't kick Green Bay's butt ...errr....ahem...ok, back to the subject at hand...:p

(was just thinking it would be hilarious for a protest group to show up at the theatre with "9-11 was an outside job" posters...but since sane people work for a living it'll never happen):p

[The Doc]

Here is a series of questions that need to be directed at LC supporters:

Why was there a need for another edition of Loose Change?
If the answer is "Because it needed to be better presented!", the next question should be asked.

Well then why has the content been changed?

[ref]

It would really be something to go in as an extremely loud and stupid theorist.

"Google Judy Wood!"
"Moon landings are Hoax! Ask Bermas!"
"Building 7 had government papers in it!"
"Faster than free fall! Faster than free fall!"
"This is all numerology I tell ya! Check the numbers! Coincidence?"

[Jonnyclueless]

Actually I think it would be funny if someone went and heckled them. Then while being kicked out, they can say "Hey man, we're like just asking questions man. Why don't you like, answer the question uh man."

[bofors]

That was a typo. It was meant to read:

Filmmaker will be presented for screaming.

Hahahahaha..... NOT.

[bofors]

Why was there a need for another edition of Loose Change?



Well then why has the content been changed?

In short, because the 2nd Ed. content is not perfect and Loose Change is the mainstream 9/11 Truth vehicle.

[funk de fino]

In short, because the 2nd Ed. content is not perfect and Loose Change is the mainstream 9/11 Truth vehicle.

That made me chuckle

[jhunter1163]

Actually I think it would be funny if someone went and heckled them. Then while being kicked out, they can say "Hey man, we're like just asking questions man. Why don't you like, answer the question uh man."

It would also help if, while being kicked out, this person yelled "Don't tase me, bro!"

[JAStewart]

Be funny if they kicked out a debunker for using free speech.

[Wildy]

In short, because the 2nd Ed. content is not perfect and Loose Change is the mainstream 9/11 Truth vehicle.

I don't know why but I think of Nineteen Eighty-Four when I read that.

LC 2ed malquoted events refilm fullwise upsub antefiling

[chipmunk stew]

LC 2ed malquoted events refilm fullwise upsub antifiling
:D

[T.A.M.]

Maybe I'll rent out a theater like they did, and show videos of my children playing in the back yard. Will that make me officially a filmmaker?

TAM:)

[Wildy]

T.A.M.

Yes you will. Maybe you will win an award of some sort.

[Totovader]

I think ignoring it is the best policy. These guys desperately need to drum up attention, so why give them more vanity video material? I assume the matinee audience will be mostly truthers, so probably will not be terribly receptive to pamphleting. I almost never watch truther videos, and I'll only watch this one if someone says there's something new in it that needs to be addressed.

That said, it would be funny to go as a really intense and obnoxious fan who shouts things like "Wolfotwitz killed my nieces!" and "Hell, yeah! Now that's what I call animation!" and "What happened to Cleveland? Where the hell did Cleveland go?" and who unsuccessfully tries to lead the audience in a chant of "6.5 seconds! 6.5 seconds!"

You may be right, here- although the last time we went to one of their events here they were definitely unprepared.

We're a fairly liberal town- I think the majority of these folks are just looking for a good Bush-bashing, and I think a lot of those turn to conspiracism just out of laziness.

As usual- I'll be there for the fence-sitters.

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

In short, because the 2nd Ed. content is not perfect and Loose Change is the mainstream 9/11 Truth vehicle.

Is that what you call "full of lies" these days?

[Totovader]

More on the event from the mn911truth.org website (http://mn911truth.org/MN911TruthHome/tabid/1050/ctl/Details/Mid/2244/ItemID/149/Default.aspx?selecteddate=11/11/2007):


This new film draws from research and evidence gathered since the release of earlier Loose Change versions and will be substantially different in content and presentation. Loose Change Final Cut includes never-before-seen interviews with numerous witnesses to the September 11 attacks. The evidence collated for the film has been fact-checked for accuracy by Dr. David Ray Griffin, author of several books on 9/11.

A producer of Loose Change Final Cut, Jason Bermas, will speak to the audience after the movie screening.

The usual schtick- but it still made cereal come out my nose.

[Undesired Walrus]

It's not quite John Waters style of marketing with midnight screenings to make it officially cult.

At least it will carry on Waters coined genre, trash cinema.

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

I hope Bermas is walking from Oneonta to Minneapolis. That showing's not going to cover his airfare.

Think he'll be signing autographs for $10 a pop?

Maybe holding out a can and holding a sign that says "Loose Change for Loose Change (and so I can buy a sandwich)"

[Totovader]

I remember overhearing that one of the mn911truth members (not to be confused with 911truthmn who apparently don't get along with mn911truth) owns the theater- on a good day I don't think it does very well, so sacrificing the place for your own silly political journey probably doesn't hurt him at all.

I wish I had time to make a banner "This theater supports the LIES of 'Loose Change'"

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

I remember overhearing that one of the mn911truth members (not to be confused with 911truthmn who apparently don't get along with mn911truth) owns the theater- on a good day I don't think it does very well, so sacrificing the place for your own silly political journey probably doesn't hurt him at all.

I wish I had time to make a banner "This theater supports the LIES of 'Loose Change'"

I bet he'll try to write off an inflated rental price on his taxes as a political donation.

[Calcas]

I remember overhearing that one of the mn911truth members (not to be confused with 911truthmn who apparently don't get along with mn911truth) owns the theater- on a good day I don't think it does very well, so sacrificing the place for your own silly political journey probably doesn't hurt him at all.

I wish I had time to make a banner "This theater supports the LIES of 'Loose Change'"

I was just going to ask, "Why Minneapolis?" but perhaps this is the reason.

3000 theatres it's not. Mark Cuban financing it's not. Charlie Sheen narration it's not. FUBAR it is.

[uk_dave]

....... of the mn911truth members (not to be confused with 911truthmn who apparently don't get along with mn911truth) ......

:dl:
Splitters!!

[BenBurch]

I wonder how much rent they had to pay to "four-wall" this one into some dump of a theater in Minnesota?

[Reality Believer]

......
That said, it would be funny to go as a really intense and obnoxious fan who shouts things like "Wolfotwitz killed my nieces!" and "Hell, yeah! Now that's what I call animation!" and "What happened to Cleveland? Where the hell did Cleveland go?" and who unsuccessfully tries to lead the audience in a chant of "6.5 seconds! 6.5 seconds!"

In other words, turn it into a Rocky Horror Picture Show.

In essence, it already is. That same theater still screens RHPS. LCFC has done the time warp right to ignominy.

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

I wonder how much rent they had to pay to "four-wall" this one into some dump of a theater in Minnesota?

The owner is a truther. I'm guessing he's going to try to write off the loss of the donated theater time on his taxes.

[BenBurch]

The owner is a truther. I'm guessing he's going to try to write off the loss of the donated theater time on his taxes.

My wife is actually spending the weekend at a four-walling event; "8 films to die for" which is all low-budget horror films. This is one of the few organized four-wall promotions that makes money.

[Brainache]

{...}

That said, it would be funny to go as a really intense and obnoxious fan who shouts things like "Wolfotwitz killed my nieces!" and "Hell, yeah! Now that's what I call animation!" and "What happened to Cleveland? Where the hell did Cleveland go?" and who unsuccessfully tries to lead the audience in a chant of "6.5 seconds! 6.5 seconds!"

Sometimes I think you are channelling me,... so, just stop it, OK?

It just makes me sick...

[Lurker]

Vikes are playing Green Bay on Sunday, but its a noon game. Still, if the Vikes win it could cut into their attendance.

SKOL VIKINGS!

Go AD!

[Brainache]

In other words, turn it into a Rocky Horror Picture Show.

In essence, it already is. That same theater still screens RHPS. LCFC has done the time warp right to ignominy.


Please tell me that thes retards have not started some obscene timewarp thing with confetti and whatever as a 9/11 dance etc...

[BenBurch]

Sometimes I think you are channelling me,... so, just stop it, OK?

It just makes me sick...

It could be like Rocky Horror Picture Show!

No!

Seriously!

We pirate a copy of LCFC (let him try to sue with all of his pirated material in there) and we stage a midnight show in which we have people dress up as parodies of twoofers and adlib a floor show. And of course we will not tell the real twoofers what's up and so they show up expecting a serious showing of the film...

[Unsecured Coins]

Well, if it's in theaters now, I hope they come out en mass... I'd really think I would die in my sleep if The Final Cut can't bring in more on it's opening weekend than the worst movie ever made (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=itspat.htm)

[dudalb]

I wonder how much rent they had to pay to "four-wall" this one into some dump of a theater in Minnesota?


It depends on the theater. It will cost a lot less for "Grindhouse" type dump then a modern multiplex.
The City also matters. You can rent a theater for an afternoon in a Multiplex in Sacramento for 500 bucks .

[CptColumbo]

I wonder how much rent they had to pay to "four-wall" this one into some dump of a theater in Minnesota?Its not a "dump" theatre.

The owner is a truther. I'm guessing he's going to try to write off the loss of the donated theater time on his taxes.IIRC the person organizing it owns a theatre in Woodbury, which is more of an isolated area and doesn't have as much seating.

It depends on the theater. It will cost a lot less for "Grindhouse" type dump then a modern multiplex.
The City also matters. You can rent a theater for an afternoon in a Multiplex in Sacramento for 500 bucks .
The Riverview has one screen. It is a classic movie house.

[T.A.M.]

Well based on its horrible content, and cult following, it definitely qualifies as a "midnight movie".

"El Topo" Hooray!!

TAM:)

[LashL]

Actually I think it would be funny if someone went and heckled them. Then while being kicked out, they can say "Hey man, we're like just asking questions man. Why don't you like, answer the question uh man."

It would also be funny if, while being kicked out, the person shouts, "I am being OPPRESSED! Don't tase me, bro!"

ETA: I see jhunter beat me to it. ;)

[jhunter1163]

"Come and see the violence inherent in the system!"

[Alareth]

My wife is actually spending the weekend at a four-walling event; "8 films to die for" which is all low-budget horror films. This is one of the few organized four-wall promotions that makes money.


Horrorfest is a wonderful thing.

[CptColumbo]

There was nothing about it in today's paper. BTW it's appears to be taking the place of a showing of Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix, which was still listed in the paper for 4:30pm. There might be some confused people there tomorrow.

[Alareth]

There was nothing about it in today's paper. BTW it's appears to be taking the place of a showing of Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix, which was still listed in the paper for 4:30pm. There might be some confused people there tomorrow.


Well Harry Potter is definitely the better work of fiction.

[CptColumbo]

So the Wizard destroyed the WTC?

[jhunter1163]

It was those (rule10)ing Muggles. You can't trust them.

[Foolmewunz]

In short, because the 2nd Ed. content is not perfect and Loose Change is the mainstream 9/11 Truth vehicle.

Troofer Dictionary

Mainstream (N.) - liars, whores, and thieves. syn. evil



So the LC2 wasn't perfect? You are asserting that LCFC1 is perfect, then. My goodness, no wonder Gravy's eyes are welling up with tears.

[Totovader]

There was nothing about it in today's paper. BTW it's appears to be taking the place of a showing of Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix, which was still listed in the paper for 4:30pm. There might be some confused people there tomorrow.

Which may work to our benefit...

Or may not, actually- if people think we're flyering against Harry Potter...

[CptColumbo]

Which may work to our benefit...

Or may not, actually- if people think we're flyering against Harry Potter...

Given the recent revelations, if they see us demonstrating in anyway, they may think we're Homophobes.

[Gravy]

Given the recent revelations, if they see us demonstrating in anyway, they may think we're Homophobes.The problem I have with Dumbledylan isn't his sexuality.

[CptColumbo]

Nothing in today's StarTribune or Friday's (that's where they do the weekend report). They did change the Riverviews shows to include the showing of LC today, after Hairspray and before Bourne Ultimatum. I couldn't think of a better video to be sandwiched between those two.

[negativ]

Actually I think it would be funny if someone went and heckled them. Then while being kicked out, they can say "Hey man, we're like just asking questions man. Why don't you like, answer the question uh man."

You'd have to add "DON'T TASE ME, BRO!" as your parting shot as they haul you out.

[Jonnyclueless]

So when they said "Coming to theaters" they spelled 'theater" wrong?

[volatile]

That said, it would be funny to go as a really intense and obnoxious fan who shouts things like "Wolfotwitz killed my nieces!" and "Hell, yeah! Now that's what I call animation!" and "What happened to Cleveland? Where the hell did Cleveland go?" and who unsuccessfully tries to lead the audience in a chant of "6.5 seconds! 6.5 seconds!"

Or a unifed chorus of "clunkity-click".

[JMarshall]

"Come and see the violence inherent in the system!"

King? I didn't vote for you!

And now for something completely different...

[Tirdun]

Nothing in today's StarTribune or Friday's (that's where they do the weekend report). They did change the Riverviews shows to include the showing of LC today, after Hairspray and before Bourne Ultimatum. I couldn't think of a better video to be sandwiched between those two.

But could we think of two better bookend movies?

12:00 Telling Lies In America
2:00 Loose Change FC
3:30 Failure To Launch

[jhunter1163]

12:00 For A Few Dollars More
2:00 Loose Change: Final Cut
3:30 True Lies

[BenBurch]

12:00 Little Shop Of Horrors (1960)
2:00 Loose Change: Final Cut
3:30 The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies!!?

[CptColumbo]

Final ticket sales, according to the theatre, 430 out of 700 seats.

Totovader and I were offered free admission, but turned them down. I'd rather catch-up on sleep at home.

[negativ]

I'd really think I would die in my sleep if The Final Cut can't bring in more on it's opening weekend than the worst movie ever made (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=itspat.htm)

Love ya pal, but if you think THAT's the worst movie ever made, then you haven't seen nearly enough movies.

You should drop by my place (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vbSRQUuLE2c) and allow me to introduce you to films from Japan, India, and Italy. I'll lay 100-to-1 odds that you'll come away realizing that the best AND worst movies ever made, in almost every genre, come from those 3 countries.

I'm straight too, but nobody has to know.

[Totovader]

Quite an interesting event- at first I wasn't sure if our presence there was worth the price of copies and poster board, but I think overall it was a good thing.

A couple of highlights:

1) Almost everyone was respectful, although some of the hardcore ones were a bit rude. In the end, I only got called a shill maybe twice, and one older guy called me a dirty name as he walked away. He hurt my feelings. Almost everyone took a handout, and were polite though they were aware of the fact that we were opposition. I did get some handouts given back to me, which seemed a bit silly- but the people waiting with their hands out to get the information more than made up for it.

2) By far- the most popular counter was "What about Building 7?" to which "What about it?" seemed to cause people to struggle. Most of the individuals were not aware of the structural damage and massive fires. They scoffed at the idea that it was even possible since "it wasn't hit by a plane". I was stunned that this line of thinking was so popular.

3) Bermas was going on about something I couldn't quite understand. Apparently he claims to have someone saying that there was "an explosion" in Building 7 before the tower collapse (I think I heard him say) but after the Command Center had been cleaned out. He tried to show it to me on his cellphone, but at the time I had 4 or 5 people doing the "well, what about THIS" magic trick and couldn't quite get what Bermas was saying. Beyond that he was laughing at the notion that the buildings did not fall at free-fall speed and a couple of miscellaneous other claims ("pull it") that I naively expected him to back down from.

3) I got some kind of veiled threat from the guy who I thought owned the theater but actually owns a different theater. I didn't understand what he was talking about- and he kept trying to whisper so I didn't get it. Beyond that the actual theater owner demanded that we leave at once. When I told him that was not an option he tried to tell me that I cannot continue to pass out the fliers. I was baffled- and a bit excited- by the suggestion and politely reminded him that there is this thing known as the First Amendment. He gave me a look like I wasn't supposed to know what that was- but he replied that I should have to come in and clean them up off the floor. I refused to do this and he rushed off screaming that he was going to confiscate them at the door. I yelled back that I was not sure that would be a good idea as it wouldn't help his case, but he could certainly refuse entry to anyone with the dreaded blue handout if he liked. I couldn't see what was going on inside, but I hope that he did.

4) I'd say of that 430 maybe about half were fence-sitters, maybe a small handful were full-out nutty. Maybe 5 or 10 actually said that the conspiracy theories are crazy... I wasn't sure why they were there, but maybe they thought it was Harry Potter.

5) It really was the same repeated claims from the crowd- besides what Bermas was trying to shove in my face, it was all very old claims. Hopefully the links we provided will clear up some of that.

6) I was offered twice to have my ticket paid for- once by a nice lady who seemed to be on the fence, although she took my polite refusal as a sign that I don't "accept the facts" and gave me back the handout admitting she already made up her mind. That kinda bummed me out- but oh well. The other was from one of the organizers, after the line had died out. He offered to pay my ticket so I could sit through the Q&A... sensing a trap, I again respectfully declined. A majority of the crowd seemed reasonable, but I doubt they would truly be interested in anything I had to say as a defense against the entire movie.

7) One guy went on about a $1,000 challenge that the Veterans for Truth has that he claimed would be rewarded if any proof of a plane at the Pentagon could be provided. When I pointed out that the links on the paper I just handed to him- especially the Moussaui trial evidence- would easily satisfy that challenge, he just kept repeating that I should collect the money.

8) Overall, more popular than I expected, but not nearly as nutty as I was thinking.

[Totovader]

Oh- and on the Bermas thing, when I tried to get him to clarify what he was talking about (he was making it sound like it was a whistleblower) I asked him if the individual was claiming that EXPLOSIVES were used, he did not answer. He went on to skirt around the issue when I tried to clarify. I'm pretty sure he said it's in LC:FC so I will have to look out for it.

Also- a bit odd, but when he was showing me his cellphone he asked "what is this?" I said "a cellphone", he said "no, it's not a cellphone". I wish I had it on camera because it was kind of funny... to me at least.

[CHF]

Final ticket sales, according to the theatre, 430 out of 700 seats.

Not bad by twoofer standards, but bloody awful for a US premier.

[Gravy]

Good for you! I'll bet Bermas was talking about Barry Jennings, who did not allow his interview to be used in LCFC. His story as he told it to NIST exactly confirms the official version.

[Totovader]

Good for you! I'll bet Bermas was talking about Barry Jennings, who did not allow his interview to be used in LCFC. His story as he told it to NIST exactly confirms the official version.

That sounds about right- I wonder if it will actually show up in LC:FC... either Bermas was lying, or they did a big no-no.

[CptColumbo]

When the guys with the camera were interviewing me, this guy suddenly stood between us, demanding to be interviewed. He had been listening to what I was saying about the Payne Stewart intercept and wanted to say that thousands of itercepts were done every year over Washington, DC and the Pentagon was restricted air space. I told him the the Pentagon is almost directly in the flight path of DCA. They also had the typical confusion about the timing of the Stewart intercept.

The $1000 guy also confronted me with the lack of debris at the Pentagon challenge. He didn't want to hear about the seats, DNA, personal belongings and the FBI picking up debris at the Pentagon he wanted photos. I told him that it is dumb to ask for photos from someone who is standing on a sidewalk. Next time I'll bring some.

[Totovader]

When the guys with the camera were interviewing me, this guy suddenly stood between us, demanding to be interviewed. He had been listening to what I was saying about the Payne Stewart intercept and wanted to say that thousands of itercepts were done every year over Washington, DC and the Pentagon was restricted air space. I told him the the Pentagon is almost directly in the flight path of DCA. They also had the typical confusion about the timing of the Stewart intercept.

The $1000 guy also confronted me with the lack of debris at the Pentagon challenge. He didn't want to hear about the seats, DNA, personal belongings and the FBI picking up debris at the Pentagon he wanted photos. I told him that it is dumb to ask for photos from someone who is standing on a sidewalk. Next time I'll bring some.

Yeah- for next time I think I'll need to finish my "Gravy Binder" to combat some of those claims. If I would have known that the claims in LC:FC were just the same as before with very little difference, that's what I would have spent my time doing. Besides the Bermas rant and the one guy with the detcord claims, I can only hope that people actually go to the links we provided and find the answers to their "questions" they were "just asking". :)

[CptColumbo]

I finished editing the video. I was hoping that one of my friends would be there to tape, while we schmoozed, unfortunately the one who came had a camera of his/her (Toto knows what I'm refering to) own, and the other ended up babysitting his sisters kids. So there isn't much.
pw60N8PMyGw

[Brainache]

I finished editing the video. I was hoping that one of my friends would be there to tape, while we schmoozed, unfortunately the one who came had a camera of his/her (Toto knows what I'm refering to) own, and the other ended up babysitting his sisters kids. So there isn't much.
pw60N8PMyGw

I like the placard. You don't look much like your avatar.

I, on the other hand, never leave home without my cape.

[jhunter1163]

So they grossed $2,580 maximum. I wonder how many seats they gave away.

[CptColumbo]

According to a person who stayed for the Q&A Bermas only answered previously prepared questions.

[ref]

According to a person who stayed for the Q&A Bermas only answered previously prepared questions.

This is their typical tactic. They don't want to be exposed. As if they weren't already.

[Totovader]

According to a person who stayed for the Q&A Bermas only answered previously prepared questions.

[mr burns] Eeeeexcellent [/mr burns]

I may be a bit naive- but I think the majority of the crowd was savvy enough that confiscating flyers and not answering questions from the audience is enough to make them at least go and check out the information we provided... er, if they still have it.

[CptColumbo]

They were apparently looking for us after the show, armed with their fresh "twoof." One person outside told me it was going to be "completely new." Is it?

[Gravy]

Yeah- for next time I think I'll need to finish my "Gravy Binder" to combat some of those claims.I recommend cornstarch or arrowroot.

[Gravy]

I finished editing the video. I was hoping that one of my friends would be there to tape, while we schmoozed, unfortunately the one who came had a camera of his/her (Toto knows what I'm refering to) own, and the other ended up babysitting his sisters kids. So there isn't much.
pw60N8PMyGwI didn't know you guys had big ol' signs! And you made them as graphically lame as truther signs: very clever! I wish some truther interaction had been captured, though.

[Jonnyclueless]

any word on an oscar?

[Totovader]

I didn't know you guys had big ol' signs! And you made them as graphically lame as truther signs: very clever! I wish some truther interaction had been captured, though.

It was only appropriate considering we were about half the size of a standard truther gathering anyway.

[Brainster]

I finished editing the video. I was hoping that one of my friends would be there to tape, while we schmoozed, unfortunately the one who came had a camera of his/her (Toto knows what I'm refering to) own, and the other ended up babysitting his sisters kids. So there isn't much.
pw60N8PMyGw

Posted at SLC!

[JimBenArm]

Well Gravy I hope you've got enough bottles to store all of your tears, because from what I hear, you won't be able to debunk a word of this new improved Truth. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
So it's going to be 2 hours of a blank screen?

[Brainache]

So it's going to be 2 hours of a blank screen?

Heh why not?
You wouldn't have to put up with Dyl's annoying voice over and the audience can draw their own conclusions. I'd call it a win-win for the Truth Movement.

[qarnos]

Good for you! I'll bet Bermas was talking about Barry Jennings, who did not allow his interview to be used in LCFC. His story as he told it to NIST exactly confirms the official version.

Woah... look like I missed that one! When did this happen?

[lapman]

Was this on the marquee?
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z183/jasonlap64/LCFC_Sign.jpg