"Chemtrail Activist" may just be the biggest loser EVER...

[DRBUZZ0]

An army of one... fighting chemtrails. While the real military laughs. Well... not really the military as a whole, but the guys on the base where he is fighting seem to be getting a kick out of it. Or maybe they're trying to fool us...

9Xcf84CFEKQ

[Unsecured Coins]

I'm still trying to figure out how they manage to fit enough chemicals into a plane that will leave 100 mile long trails.

[BenBurch]

I'm still trying to figure out how they manage to fit enough chemicals into a plane that will leave 100 mile long trails.

Super Tantra-Energized Nano Thermate can do ANYTHING.

[contra]

Thats odd. So they must really want to hit central Scotland with chemicals, as almost every plane you will see is 'dropping' them. Being near various miliraty bases, a wide open area coming from and going to the highlands, and generally being a place things fly over.

You would think that there would be an easier way of distributing chemicals into everyone... like water... or through food.

Rather than develop a secret system to make massive chemical trails along the sky in all aircraft. Then stop everyone who builds the aircraft questioning it. And keeping the developers of the chemical secret. and so on with many many people.


Silly conspirators; yet again not doing things the easy way! Will they never learn

[Unsecured Coins]

shameful plug. again.

IBu8-5OgJ_A

[Gravy]

Army of one what? Brain cell?

[Unsecured Coins]

Army of one what? Brain cell?


...

I don't get it

[Gravy]

shameful plug. again.

IBu8-5OgJ_AThat's a killer!

[Gravy]

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I don't get itThe maker of the video claims to be an army of one, fighting chemtrails. I wasn't referring to you!

[Unsecured Coins]

pssst.... i was playing stupid.

i think...

[DRBUZZ0]

shameful plug. again.

IBu8-5OgJ_A


I posted your video on my page here. I even made it a separate post from the guy who made the "Army of One" post. http://depletedcranium.com/?p=201

[Unsecured Coins]

Sweet! Thanks

[DGM]

[slight derail] My son (9) and I were looking at contrails today. He turns and tells me that one of his classmates says it's chemicals. With the straightest 9 year old face he says to me, "I told him he was nuts". A chip off the old block. [Proud dad face]

[Gravy]

[slight derail] My son (9) and I were looking at contrails today. He turns and tells me that one of his classmates says it's chemicals. With the straightest 9 year old face he says to me, "I told him he was nuts". A chip off the old block. [Proud dad face]Way to raise a skepkid, DGM!

[BenBurch]

shameful plug. again.

IBu8-5OgJ_A

Hilarious!

[OldTigerCub]

shameful plug. again.

IBu8-5OgJ_A

Shameful plug indeed!;)

But a killer debunking vid!:D

[Unsecured Coins]

thanks for the words. To date, that has been the only one I got a lengthy hate mail over.

[BenBurch]

thanks for the words. To date, that has been the only one I got a lengthy hate mail over.

The Art Bell crowd are scary sometimes. A lot of militia-types and militia-type wannabes. The latter being the more dangerous of course.

[Unsecured Coins]

here is said hate mail.


Just got this in my box about UC6. Righteous. The message was "Watch UC6. Because We'll know if you don't" Here's the reply

"because you are also a spy?
anyway. i disliked the tone, and only watched a few minutes of it (the other one)... are you suggesting that the NWO does *not* have an agenda to depopulate the planet? just because people don't agree what exactly the reason is doesn't make them wrong. We all have different reasons for hating bush, but the point remains the same: he *********** sucks.

and why do weather forecasts not have the chemtrails on the radar? maybe cuz people would ask "what the **** is that ******!!?!" they obviously edit them out and hope that people keep NOT noticing the fact that large streams are suddenly coming out of planes nowadays and that's A-OKAY.

well, it's not *********** okay to me. making videos like these would only be preaching to your choir (very small choir, i imagine), because anybody who's researched it even a little sees there's something fishy *at the least* going on, and videos like that only get turned off prematurely. nobody wants to be talked to like they're an idiot and/ or child. i'm not an idiot nor a child, and others like me will feel the same if they saw that. you have your opinion, but that is NOT how you get somebody to take your side. if anything, it's repulsive, and not doing you any favors. once again, penn and teller. they talk like that, and hence i don't listen to them.

you can always tell the close-minded people by the way they talk about "conspiracy theorists." conspiracies *do* occur, mind you. just read history books. just ask julius caesar in the afterlife. and the more i research, the more i'm convinced that *other* deaths in history were more than likely also shrouded in lies and deceit. in fact, don't you think that's actually *more* likely than not, given that the victors writing the text we read obviously wanted to make themselves look great? oh, and the recent revelation that the JFK CTs were right all along? (it's okay: apologies not expected but gladly accepted anyway).
open your mind more. it's too great a thing to waste. you can spiritually handle the effect of actually being wrong in this world about some things."

Bush, Caesar, JFK, Penn and Teller... all because a black guy was talking about whistles.

[Rolfe]

Thats odd. So they must really want to hit central Scotland with chemicals, as almost every plane you will see is 'dropping' them. Being near various miliraty bases, a wide open area coming from and going to the highlands, and generally being a place things fly over....


What I really want to know is what two jet planes were doing in the sky over Athelstaneford in 832AD....

Rolfe.

[GT/CS]

Anyone know what he's rambling on about here? "oh, and the recent revelation that the JFK CTs were right all along?"

[AudioFreak]

are you suggesting that the NWO does *not* have an agenda to depopulate the planet?

I love how the assumption is not that you think the NWO doesn't exist, but rather that you think their plan is something different. Typical lunacy.

[Dave Rogers]

I love how the assumption is not that you think the NWO doesn't exist, but rather that you think their plan is something different. Typical lunacy.

I love the implication that no reasonable person could possibly doubt that the NWO has an agenda to depopulate the planet. The woo is strong in this one.

Dave

[DRBUZZ0]

Anyone know what he's rambling on about here? "oh, and the recent revelation that the JFK CTs were right all along?"

The JFK CT's were correct? Damn. If one was correct maybe, but all of them? That's kinda surprising.

So he was then shot by Oswald on the 5th floor, Oswald on the 6th floor, another guy on the 5th floor, another guy in the west window on the 5th floor, a guy in the dal tex building, a gun on the roof of the schoolbook depository, the driver of the car, the "Umberlla man" with a fake umbrella gun, a guy in the tree above zapruder, a guy behind the stockhad fence of the grassy knoll. A guy in front of the fence but behind the embankment, the "Three Tramps", a guy in a tree above the "Three Tramps" a guy behind them, a guy in the sewer drain, a guy on the overpass, a guy behind the "Steam pipe" on the overpass, Jack Ruby, George H W Bush, Governor Conley. A guy on the south knoll, a guy on the roof of the court records building....

Damn he didn't stand a chance with the dozens of conspiracies convirging at the same time!

[sts60]

here is said hate mail. and why do weather forecasts not have the chemtrails on the radar? maybe cuz people would ask "what the **** is that ******!!?!" they obviously edit them out and hope that people keep NOT noticing the fact that large streams are suddenly coming out of planes nowadays and that's A-OKAY.
Of course. Every weather radar image in the U.S. is censored so people won't notice something they could see by simply stepping outside and looking up! The censorship is necessary because this is powerful technology - after all, it's how we won World War II:

[Brainster]

shameful plug. again.

IBu8-5OgJ_A

That's terrific! I'm putting it up on SLC this afternoon.

[Swing Dangler]

Does the mainstream media count as the biggest Loser ever?

Examine the report, Toxic Skies, from NBC affiliate, KNBC out of Los Angeles here: Toxic Skies (http://www.knbc.com/video/9265818/detail.html).

Part 2 is here. Toxic Skies (http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/1117/10343454.200k.asx)
Interesting that barium levels were found to be apparently over the legal levels.

Here is a report from CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/05/23/petersburg.rain/) about Russian chemtrails for keeping the weather clear.

The only problem is I don't see a bunch of kooks and tin hatters in the report, just average American citizens. Hmmmm.

Interesting report, I suppose, but leaves open the question as to why if it truly is chemical spraying and not leaving lines for alien lizards to follow.
Nothing wrong with owning the weather I guess.

[Unsecured Coins]

Show me someone that's genuinely in possession of chemtrail residue, PLEASE. And do tell me how they manage to fit all that chemtrail joy into an aircraft.

[JimBenArm]

Does the mainstream media count as the biggest Loser ever?

Examine the report, Toxic Skies, from NBC affiliate, KNBC out of Los Angeles here: Toxic Skies (http://www.knbc.com/video/9265818/detail.html).

Part 2 is here. Toxic Skies (http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/1117/10343454.200k.asx)
Interesting that barium levels were found to be apparently over the legal levels.

Here is a report from CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/05/23/petersburg.rain/) about Russian chemtrails for keeping the weather clear.

The only problem is I don't see a bunch of kooks and tin hatters in the report, just average American citizens. Hmmmm.

Interesting report, I suppose, but leaves open the question as to why if it truly is chemical spraying and not leaving lines for alien lizards to follow.
Nothing wrong with owning the weather I guess.
Just for my own personal reference purposes, do you take the chemtrail stuff seriously?

[Swing Dangler]

Just for my own personal reference purposes, do you take the chemtrail stuff seriously?

Weather modification is a very real of course. The "chemtrail" stuff or as some tag conspiracy, if I'm not mistaken, is the reason behind it. I don't believe there are chemtrails being used for population control, etc.

However, based upon this research presented to the United States Air Force, Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025 by Col Tamzy J. House, Lt Col James B. Near, Jr., LTC William B. Shields (USA),Maj Ronald J. Celentano, Maj David M. Husband, Maj Ann E. Mercer, Maj James E. Pugh dated
August 1996
(http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf)The document was a detailed research analysis paper which described the potential of developing aerospace technologies, and more importantly, how they might best be used to harness, control and manipulate the natural forces of weather on this planet. From the document:
"Current technologies that will mature over the next 30 years will offer anyone who has the necessary resources the ability to modify weather patterns and their corresponding effects, at least on the local scale," the authors of the report explained. "Current demographic, economic, and environmental trends will create global stresses that provide the impetus necessary for many countries or groups to turn this weather-modification ability into a capability."

Here is a quote from Former US defense secretary William Cohen warns: "Terrorists are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."

Owen Greene, director of research at Bradford University's department of Peace Studies, believes efforts are continuing in secret to develop weapons that harness nature.-"There is so much money within the Pentagon that it would surprise me if they were not looking into it, " he says. "I suspect it is going on in both the US and Russia. You can't stop people researching the weather. As for earthquakes, you don't even need to spend money on active military programmes because there is so much other work going on which could easily be adapted. Some of the ideas are quite credible."

At NASA they call them contrails that now form contrail clouds. You can read more about NASA's 2005 Contrail Count-a-thon. (http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/F_Contrails_5-8.html) I had to laugh. I'm very aware of contrails of course, but I don't ever recall contrails forming into clouds before.

Contrails look like white lines in the sky. They form very high in the air where airplanes fly. An airplane's engine releases small particles and gases called exhaust. Invisible water molecules called water vapor are in the exhaust and in the air around the plane. The air is very cold at this height. So if conditions are right, the water vapor condenses into water drops. The water drops then freeze around small particles from the exhaust, and a contrail cloud forms.
Here is a USA Article discussing the issue. I found it interesting that someone like Philip Marie Sr., a retired nuclear quality engineer from Bartlett, N.H would raise issues with it. Anyway, here is a different take on the issue located here: USATODAY (http://www-pm.larc.nasa.gov/sass/usatoday_7mar01.html)

Is it possible that what some claim are chemtrails are actually experiments or attempts to control the weather or reverse global warming? I think that yes it could be that based upon the information. I think if you recall that many people who thought they were seeing UFO's were actually seeing the F-117 Steath Fighter in action. So criss crossed patterns in the sky that are labeled as contrails, might indeed be chemtrails.

Do I think it is attempt to control the population or weed out the old and weak? Of course not.

Did I answer your question?;)

[Bell]

Just for my own personal reference purposes, do you take the chemtrail stuff seriously?

They should first be investigated.

ETA: Damn you Swing, you weren't supposed to answer allready!

[JimBenArm]

Weather modification is a very real of course. The "chemtrail" stuff or as some tag conspiracy, if I'm not mistaken, is the reason behind it. I don't believe there are chemtrails being used for population control, etc.

However, based upon this research presented to the United States Air Force, Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025 by Col Tamzy J. House, Lt Col James B. Near, Jr., LTC William B. Shields (USA),Maj Ronald J. Celentano, Maj David M. Husband, Maj Ann E. Mercer, Maj James E. Pugh dated
August 1996
(http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf)The document was a detailed research analysis paper which described the potential of developing aerospace technologies, and more importantly, how they might best be used to harness, control and manipulate the natural forces of weather on this planet. From the document:
"Current technologies that will mature over the next 30 years will offer anyone who has the necessary resources the ability to modify weather patterns and their corresponding effects, at least on the local scale," the authors of the report explained. "Current demographic, economic, and environmental trends will create global stresses that provide the impetus necessary for many countries or groups to turn this weather-modification ability into a capability."

Here is a quote from Former US defense secretary William Cohen warns: "Terrorists are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."

Owen Greene, director of research at Bradford University's department of Peace Studies, believes efforts are continuing in secret to develop weapons that harness nature.-"There is so much money within the Pentagon that it would surprise me if they were not looking into it, " he says. "I suspect it is going on in both the US and Russia. You can't stop people researching the weather. As for earthquakes, you don't even need to spend money on active military programmes because there is so much other work going on which could easily be adapted. Some of the ideas are quite credible."

At NASA they call them contrails that now form contrail clouds. You can read more about NASA's 2005 Contrail Count-a-thon. (http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/F_Contrails_5-8.html) I had to laugh. I've very aware of contrails of course, but I don't ever recall contrails forming into clouds before.


Here is a USA Article discussing the issue. I found it interesting that someone like Philip Marie Sr., a retired nuclear quality engineer from Bartlett, N.H would raise issues with it. Anyway, here is a different take on the issue located here: USATODAY (http://www-pm.larc.nasa.gov/sass/usatoday_7mar01.html)

Is it possible that what some claim are chemtrails are actually experiments or attempts to control the weather or reverse global warming? I think that yes it could be that based upon the information. I think if you recall that many people who thought they were seeing UFO's were actually seeing the F-117 Steath Fighter in action. So criss crossed patterns in the sky that are labeled as contrails, might indeed be chemtrails.

Do I think it is attempt to control the population or weed out the old and weak? Of course not.

Did I answer your question?;)
Yes. Yes you did.

[DRBUZZ0]

Weather modification is a very real of course. The "chemtrail" stuff or as some tag conspiracy, if I'm not mistaken, is the reason behind it. I don't believe there are chemtrails being used for population control, etc.

However, based upon this research presented to the United States Air Force, Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025 by Col Tamzy J. House, Lt Col James B. Near, Jr., LTC William B. Shields (USA),Maj Ronald J. Celentano, Maj David M. Husband, Maj Ann E. Mercer, Maj James E. Pugh dated
August 1996
(http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf)The document was a detailed research analysis paper which described the potential of developing aerospace technologies, and more importantly, how they might best be used to harness, control and manipulate the natural forces of weather on this planet. From the document:
"Current technologies that will mature over the next 30 years will offer anyone who has the necessary resources the ability to modify weather patterns and their corresponding effects, at least on the local scale," the authors of the report explained. "Current demographic, economic, and environmental trends will create global stresses that provide the impetus necessary for many countries or groups to turn this weather-modification ability into a capability."


They spent a lot of money on a study on a nuclear powered aircraft as well. And also a bomb that makes people really horny and gay. They do a LOT of studies like that.

That report, if you read it, is pretty damn speculative and out there in terms of what might happen in decades..



Here is a quote from Former US defense secretary William Cohen warns: "Terrorists are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."



First of all that's impossible, second of all you've butchered a quote and taken it out of context. Here's the transcript of where it originally came from:

http://www.fas.org/news/usa/1997/04/bmd970429d.htm

He's just throwing out some ideas for examples of what is being researched on the fringes of science and weaponry.



Owen Greene, director of research at Bradford University's department of Peace Studies, believes efforts are continuing in secret to develop weapons that harness nature.-"There is so much money within the Pentagon that it would surprise me if they were not looking into it, " he says. "I suspect it is going on in both the US and Russia. You can't stop people researching the weather. As for earthquakes, you don't even need to spend money on active military programmes because there is so much other work going on which could easily be adapted. Some of the ideas are quite credible."


Well for one thing, Bush's war has forced the pentagon to cut a lot of military spending elsewhere. But is there research going on? probably. They've been researching cloud seeding and meterology and all sorts of stuff like that since at least the 1940's. Never amounted to anything though. Doubt it would.

As for triggering an earthquake. Um.. you might be able to do that, although it would not be a sure thing. You'd have to destabilize the ground by drilling a lot of wells and either pump stuff in or multiple explosives or something. It's happened by mistake from geothermal plants causing small increases in local tremmors. Hardly worth the effort. And sure as hell not going to work by making trails of chemicals in the sky.


At NASA they call them contrails that now form contrail clouds. You can read more about NASA's 2005 Contrail Count-a-thon. (http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/F_Contrails_5-8.html) I had to laugh. I'm very aware of contrails of course, but I don't ever recall contrails forming into clouds before.


Um a contrail is little droplets of condensed water. it *is* a cloud.


Here is a USA Article discussing the issue. I found it interesting that someone like Philip Marie Sr., a retired nuclear quality engineer from Bartlett, N.H would raise issues with it. Anyway, here is a different take on the issue located here: USATODAY (http://www-pm.larc.nasa.gov/sass/usatoday_7mar01.html)


Yeah I'll put him on the list of really smart people with dumb ideas. He can go right next to Newton who tried to turn lead into gold, and Arthur Conan Doyal who believed in fairies. Or maybe I'll put him next to Einstein who rejected quantum theory.


Is it possible that what some claim are chemtrails are actually experiments or attempts to control the weather or reverse global warming? I think that yes it could be that based upon the information. I think if you recall that many people who thought they were seeing UFO's were actually seeing the F-117 Steath Fighter in action. So criss crossed patterns in the sky that are labeled as contrails, might indeed be chemtrails.


Possible, but out there. If there are any sort of experiments with various sorts of spraying for weather research it would be two or three aircraft in a very few limited experiments in a small area under controled conditions. Actually it wouldn't be the first time either. But it sure as hell woulc not be all the airliners everywhere.



Do I think it is attempt to control the population or weed out the old and weak? Of course not.


Well that's something

[WildCat]

I found this contrail video far more compelling:

z23hYEbOOw4

[Unsecured Coins]

interesting. But my vid had Steve Miller in the background music

[TjW]

At NASA they call them contrails that now form contrail clouds. You can read more about NASA's 2005 Contrail Count-a-thon. (http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/F_Contrails_5-8.html) I had to laugh. I'm very aware of contrails of course, but I don't ever recall contrails forming into clouds before.


Then you should read some Antoine Saint-Exupery. In Flight to Arras, he comments on contrails expanding to fill the whole sky. Do you believe there's a conspiracy going back to WWII?

[BenBurch]

What would be so bad with depopulating the planet if we did it by natural attrition rather than war? Is there any virtue in numbers? Are we in any way less fit and happy as a species if there are one billion of us rather than six billion?

[TjW]

I've got a little list,
I've got a little list.
And they'll none of them be missed,
They'll none of them be missed.

[Sabrina]

How do you collect chemtrail residue anyways?

Seems to me it's along the lines of trying to collect exhaust samples from a HUMVEE. :rolleyes:

And yes, some soldiers are dumb enough to fall for that gag.

Regarding the chemtrail babe; is it me, or is her expression more vacant than it should be? SHE HAS NO SOUL!!! :p

[jhunter1163]

Who's got that picture of the aircraft control panel with the switch labeled "Poison Spray"?

[Unsecured Coins]

i do!!! I do!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/flightcontrols.jpg

[Par]

i do!!! I do!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/flightcontrols.jpg




http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/b0297c26d5.jpg

[Unsecured Coins]

mmm...fish

[GreNME]

I found this contrail video far more compelling:

z23hYEbOOw4

I found your link interesting was drawn in to what it had to say, and would like to subscribe to its regular newsletter.

How do you collect chemtrail residue anyways?

Seems to me it's along the lines of trying to collect exhaust samples from a HUMVEE. :rolleyes:

Pffft, that's easy. Yank the muffler and you have all the 'residue' you need. :p

[technoextreme]

How do you collect chemtrail residue anyways?

Seems to me it's along the lines of trying to collect exhaust samples from a HUMVEE. :rolleyes:

And yes, some soldiers are dumb enough to fall for that gag.

Actually, Im pretty sure there is a debunker that has essentially collected/measured the chemicals inside contrails. Im pretty sure it was in this show. He said there was nothing unusual at all.
http://www.airapparent.ca/library/full_text/discoverychannel_chemtrails.htmThey spent a lot of money on a study on a nuclear powered aircraft as well. And also a bomb that makes people really horny and gay. They do a LOT of studies like that.

That report, if you read it, is pretty damn speculative and out there in terms of what might happen in decades..As my linear systems professor said there is a lot of black studies that are really cutting edge and a lot of black studies that are utter crap. *Insert James Bond Theme* He should know he worked for the CIA.
Well for one thing, Bush's war has forced the pentagon to cut a lot of military spending elsewhere. But is there research going on? probably. They've been researching cloud seeding and meterology and all sorts of stuff like that since at least the 1940's. Never amounted to anything though. Doubt it would.
You haven't read the news lately. There is actually news from MIT that they figured out how to divert hurricanes. It's really stupid but still it was famous enough to create a docudrama on the Discovery Channel.

[DRBUZZ0]

How do you collect chemtrail residue anyways?

Seems to me it's along the lines of trying to collect exhaust samples from a HUMVEE. :rolleyes:

And yes, some soldiers are dumb enough to fall for that gag.

Regarding the chemtrail babe; is it me, or is her expression more vacant than it should be? SHE HAS NO SOUL!!! :p

Actually it wouldn't be that hard if you had an aircraft equipped for it. They have air sampling aircraft systems. They used to be used for testing for nuclear tests and they're also used for atmospheric studies and detecting the levels of pollution and its dispersal.

You would want to fly into the contrails of aircraft and grab atmospheric samples. You could do this either by passing large volumes of air through filters or absorbent materials or collecting air in sampling vessels for analysis.

Obviously you'd get mostly just air, but if there is any significant chemical material in it, you could detect it pretty easily with conventional analysis methods.

[Sabrina]

Ah; thanks for the clarification guys.

I still think it's about as possible as getting an exhaust sample, since you'd get just about the same amount of material, but there you are. *LOL*

[TjW]

I understand chemtrails are loaded with dihydrogen monoxide and hydronic acid.

[Sabrina]

Okay, I know the first one's water, but I haven't heard of the second one. 'Splainy, please?

[jhunter1163]

How do you collect chemtrail residue anyways?

Seems to me it's along the lines of trying to collect exhaust samples from a HUMVEE. :rolleyes:

And yes, some soldiers are dumb enough to fall for that gag.


Is that like sending sailors looking for the prop wash?

[apathoid]

Who's got that picture of the aircraft control panel with the switch labeled "Poison Spray"?



That's a fake, a really obvious one at that. And whoever faked it has absolutely no photoshop skillz.

However, this one I can assure you, is 100% real.


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/9902470641c092a41.jpg





Oh and I forgot to ask: Has anyone seen a realistice explanation for this?

[Chedda]

What is it with all these nutjob CT videos and helicopters? They all seem to do be under the deluded impression, especially the WeAreDeranged guys, that they are taking flight due to the threat of a few placard waving morons.

[AMTMAN]

That's a fake, a really obvious one at that. And whoever faked it has absolutely no photoshop skillz.

However, this one I can assure you, is 100% real.


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/9902470641c092a41.jpg





Oh and I forgot to ask: Has anyone seen a realistice explanation for this?

It's a 767 and not a 757 overhead panel, I do know that. That "population control" is the fuel jettison panel.

[JimBenArm]

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/b0297c26d5.jpg
I love that Simpsons episode!

[OldTigerCub]

Actually it wouldn't be that hard if you had an aircraft equipped for it. They have air sampling aircraft systems. They used to be used for testing for nuclear tests and they're also used for atmospheric studies and detecting the levels of pollution and its dispersal.

You would want to fly into the contrails of aircraft and grab atmospheric samples. You could do this either by passing large volumes of air through filters or absorbent materials or collecting air in sampling vessels for analysis.

Obviously you'd get mostly just air, but if there is any significant chemical material in it, you could detect it pretty easily with conventional analysis methods.

Of course flying through and sampling chemtrails would result in leaving chemtrails of your own, thereby requiring another aircraft to sample your chemtrails, and another to sample his....ad infinitum....an awful waste of aviation fuel (and population control chemicals) if you ask me....:p

[DRBUZZ0]

Ah; thanks for the clarification guys.

I still think it's about as possible as getting an exhaust sample, since you'd get just about the same amount of material, but there you are. *LOL*


Why is getting an exhaust sample difficult? My state makes you get an emissions test every 18 months.

But even if you didnt have a hose hooked up, so what? If you can smell the exhaust of a car, why not be able to sample it? obviously analytical equipment is more sensative to chemicals than the human nose.

And detecting chemicals down to one part per billion or even less is possible with good equipment. Youd just have to suck up some of the air from behind the jet and run it through the proper equipment

[Sabrina]

Because the tools given to the grunt soldiers told to collect the exhaust sample consist of a small jar too small to fit over the tailpipe or a plastic baggie or something equally useless. Hence it's a joke; sort of like the form ID-10-T (It's pronounced eye-dee-ten-tango; remove the dashes to get the joke), or sending them to get a box of grid squares, or chemlight batteries, or any one of a number of jokes made at a newbie's expense. They're all harmlessly hilarious and a good experience builder. *L*

[BenBurch]

Nonono... Any exhaust sample from a SINGLE aircraft is not going to be all that interesting because we are using a BINARY agent. Obviously NWO is behind on briefing y'all, because we haven't used mono agents in 15 years!

[Unsecured Coins]

Because the tools given to the grunt soldiers told to collect the exhaust sample consist of a small jar too small to fit over the tailpipe or a plastic baggie or something equally useless. Hence it's a joke; sort of like the form ID-10-T (It's pronounced eye-dee-ten-tango; remove the dashes to get the joke), or sending them to get a box of grid squares, or chemlight batteries, or any one of a number of jokes made at a newbie's expense. They're all harmlessly hilarious and a good experience builder. *L*

I've had new soldiers banging on my tank with a hammer looking for soft spots in the armor, look for 2 cans of squelch for the radio, a jar of ballistic solution for the computer (this was done by breaking open a chemlight and shaking it all throughout the turret) , performing a shock test (jumping up and down on the back deck) boom test (screaming BOOM in the main gun) laser brightness test, I have had them order a roadwheel patch kit, a muffler, and a main gun silencer, I can't tell you how many times I've had my ass chewed out for pulling pranks on the new soldiers.

But my favorite time was when we took the new LT out for his first gunnery. Right before we went downrange on Table 1, I told him "Sir, I have the gun at +5 center, so when you go to warm up the hydraulics, do NOT go more than 4 turns in either direction, make sure you keep track of how many times you rotate the turret" When he asked why, my wing gunner piped in "Cause the turret will fall off if you do" He laughed like he understood, we hopped in and got in line. While we're in the chute ready for our dry run (all of table one is a dry run, actually) he starts spinning the turret, and you can hear him over the intercom under his breath "one..... two.... three.."

[Sabrina]

I'm proud to say the only one I ever fell for was the form BA-1100-N. Remove the dashes to get the joke. *L* But I heard a lot of fun stories from my NCOs at various times. At least mine was relatively harmless. However, I'm just about positive I interrupted my soldiers from playing a joke on me out on the field once. I'm a horribly light sleeper and out in the field it's worse, so any little noise wakes me; I woke up one evening to see two of my soldiers conversing in low tones at the foot of my cot, and recalled that my soldiers had told me earlier that week about the joke they'd played on their previous lieutenant where they'd duct-taped him to his cot in his sleeping bag. I almost let them get away with it, but got tired of waiting when they kept whispering to each other and finally sat up a bit, saying "What are you guys doing?" They quickly said "Nothing ma'am" and scooted off to bed, but I can't help but wonder if they were going to try the same thing on me. *L* I will say this; if they had I doubt I would've been as dumb as my predecessor. He apparently forgot he could wriggled out of the top of his sleeping bag and somehow managed to hop out of the tent to a meeting he was due at with the commander.... still duct-taped to the cot. I crack up laughing just imagining it, although I'm not sure it's true. But if it is... holy FSM that'd be hilarious.

[Unsecured Coins]

when Lt Blount showed up at the unit (back when I was a PFC) he joined us Ft Polk as we were about to go to Bosnia. He came in, said, he was the new platoon LEADER, etc, etc, etc. My PLS was a crusty old E7 who hated new officers more than I did, so he gave the order and we.. duct taped Lt Blount to his cot, covered him in shaving cream, carried him out to the "main gate" put a lit chemlight on his crotch, and left him there.

[Swing Dangler]

They spent a lot of money on a study on a nuclear powered aircraft as well. And also a bomb that makes people really horny and gay. They do a LOT of studies like that.

That report, if you read it, is pretty damn speculative and out there in terms of what might happen in decades..
Yes, I did read it.

[QUOTE]
First of all that's impossible, second of all you've butchered a quote and taken it out of context. Here's the transcript of where it originally came from:

http://www.fas.org/news/usa/1997/04/bmd970429d.htm

He's just throwing out some ideas for examples of what is being researched on the fringes of science and weaponry.
He isn't speculating and it isn't butchered. The quote was relevant to the thread's title.
You of course could have posted the entire quote from the answer which is this:
"A: Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a
false threat under the circumstances. But as we've learned in the
intelligence community, we had something called -- and we have James
Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom
moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off
a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can
paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search.
The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using
some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some
reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to
construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very
dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written
about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to
devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic-specific so
that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and
others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects
that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an
eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off
earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic
waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work
finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's
real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and
that's why this is so important."

You must have reading comprehension problems as well. He isn't speculating he is stating it as fact. Others are "engaging". I don't see any type of speculation on his part.


Well for one thing, Bush's war has forced the pentagon to cut a lot of military spending elsewhere. But is there research going on? probably. They've been researching cloud seeding and meterology and all sorts of stuff like that since at least the 1940's. Never amounted to anything though. Doubt it would.
ROFLMAO. Apparently you missed or ignored the article about Russia's weather control activities that I posted. Qudos 2 u. Now wether or not we are doing it, is speculation, but to state it didn't amount to anything and doubt that it would is proven false by history.


Possible, but out there. If there are any sort of experiments with various sorts of spraying for weather research it would be two or three aircraft in a very few limited experiments in a small area under controled conditions. Actually it wouldn't be the first time either. But it sure as hell woulc not be all the airliners everywhere.

Source for experiment protocols that you mentioned?
I don't think anyone stated it was "all the airliners everywhere" unless the guy on the video did but I can't access that from my NWO cave.

[Hellbound]

Sabrina:

The exhaust sample gag was better with the Patriot system. In case you don't know, the launch sites and radar and such are powered by the big Hemmitt-mounted generators. THey're deisel turbines, I think they're 10KW? That sounds about right. Anyway, imagine trying to get an exhaust sample from one of those with a plastic bag! One of my friends, when he was new to the unit, was sent to do that. He melted through about 6 plastic bags before he managed to get his "sample"!

[funk de fino]

Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.<new paragraph> So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."

Terrorists are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.<swingie snipped part> It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."

bolded part for your emphasis and editing, your original was cherry picked and changed, very dishonest because you claimed it was a quote and it was actually your interpretation of his quote

[Unsecured Coins]

oh, I cannot WAIT for this explanation

[BenBurch]

Swangler now thinks that terrorists have earthquake weapons???

:tinfoil

[JimBenArm]

Swangler now thinks that terrorists have earthquake weapons???

:tinfoil
Rosie doing the twist...

[technoextreme]

Doble post. Again.

[technoextreme]

Others are engaging even in an
eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off
earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic
waves.

I know a lot electromagnetism. Only a moron would believe such crap. It also goes back to what my ex CIA agent of a professor said about black research. Some of it is legit and some of it is utter crap because of the lack of a peer review.

[uk_dave]

Others are engaging even in an
eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off
earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic
waves.



And with that, he put down his copy of Micheal Crichtons (crappy) "State of Fear" and proclaimed loudly "There is no global warming!"

[Alferd_Packer]

Others are engaging even in an
eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off
earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic
waves.


If Tom Bearden sold his "Scalar technology" to Al Qaeda, he would be my new hero.

[ArmillarySphere]

It also goes back to what my ex CIA agent of a professor said about black research. Some of it is legit and some of it is utter crap because of the lack of a peer review.
I think it's called "African-American research", these days... :duck:

Unsecured, I think you're having FAR too much fun with that tank :D Didn't anyone tell you that war is serious business!

[Unsecured Coins]

you can NEVER have too much fun with a tank

[Sabrina]

Sabrina:

The exhaust sample gag was better with the Patriot system. In case you don't know, the launch sites and radar and such are powered by the big Hemmitt-mounted generators. THey're deisel turbines, I think they're 10KW? That sounds about right. Anyway, imagine trying to get an exhaust sample from one of those with a plastic bag! One of my friends, when he was new to the unit, was sent to do that. He melted through about 6 plastic bags before he managed to get his "sample"!

You obviously missed my entry in the 9/11 Expertise thread... *giggles*

I was a launcher platoon leader for PATRIOT for a year prior to becoming the S-2 of 1-1 ADA Battalion, 31st ADA Brigade, Fort Bliss, Texas. Although I hear they might be moving to Fort Hood; if so, all I could say is, WHY couldn't that have been while I was still on active duty? *pouts*

Oh, and they're 30KW generators I think. Been a while though; last time I was reasonably close to a launcher was back in.... 2005 I believe. But I think it's 30.

[Father Dagon]

I'm still trying to figure out how they manage to fit enough chemicals into a plane that will leave 100 mile long trails.And how the "chemtrails" during late fall and winter is will only reach some few hundred meters up to a couple of kilometers before dissolving...

P.S. Cool picture. And since I'm not very good at shooping, could you please add some buttons and knobs for "tinfoil deployment", "communicating with black helicopters", "metal bending" and "impregnating stewardesses with alien fetuses"?

[DRBUZZ0]

[QUOTE=DRBUZZ0;3162261]


ROFLMAO. Apparently you missed or ignored the article about Russia's weather control activities that I posted. Qudos 2 u. Now wether or not we are doing it, is speculation, but to state it didn't amount to anything and doubt that it would is proven false by history.




No, they didn't manage to find any way to change the weather beyond the standard methods of cloudseeding and such which are, at best, only marginally effective under certain conditions and in local areas.

Also, I tested #1 for reading comprehension in my high school class of 660. (Yeah.. I really did)




Source for experiment protocols that you mentioned?
I don't think anyone stated it was "all the airliners everywhere" unless the guy on the video did but I can't access that from my NWO cave.

Many insist it is all or at least a very large portion of commercial aircraft. They claim that most aircraft create chemtrails and they;re everywhere

[CurtC]

So he was then shot by Oswald on the 5th floor, Oswald on the 6th floor, another guy on the 5th floor, another guy in the west window on the 5th floor, a guy in the dal tex building, a gun on the roof of the schoolbook depository, the driver of the car, the "Umberlla man" with a fake umbrella gun, a guy in the tree above zapruder, a guy behind the stockhad fence of the grassy knoll. A guy in front of the fence but behind the embankment, the "Three Tramps", a guy in a tree above the "Three Tramps" a guy behind them, a guy in the sewer drain, a guy on the overpass, a guy behind the "Steam pipe" on the overpass, Jack Ruby, George H W Bush, Governor Conley. A guy on the south knoll, a guy on the roof of the court records building....

Did you ever see this Onion article?
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/42972

KENNEDY SLAIN BY CIA, MAFIA, CASTRO, LBJ, TEAMSTERS, FREEMASONS
President Shot 129 Times from 43 Different Angles

[Hellbound]

You obviously missed my entry in the 9/11 Expertise thread... *giggles*

I was a launcher platoon leader for PATRIOT for a year prior to becoming the S-2 of 1-1 ADA Battalion, 31st ADA Brigade, Fort Bliss, Texas. Although I hear they might be moving to Fort Hood; if so, all I could say is, WHY couldn't that have been while I was still on active duty? *pouts*

Oh, and they're 30KW generators I think. Been a while though; last time I was reasonably close to a launcher was back in.... 2005 I believe. But I think it's 30.

Yeah, I did miss that :)

I was just the medic for the patriot unit...worked on a lot of broken/crushed/amputated fingers every time they started running those Table 8/table 12 drills.

[Sabrina]

Yeah, I did miss that :)

I was just the medic for the patriot unit...worked on a lot of broken/crushed/amputated fingers every time they started running those Table 8/table 12 drills.

Ahh, the table 8 drills... man am I glad I NEVER have to go through those again. Never had to do the grunt work, mind you (I was a lieutenant), but I can recall my soldiers griping about them and remembering how difficult it was to remember every step I had to take in the ECS. Sucked royally. *L* [/derail]

[steve s]

Speaking of chemtrails.... Yesterday afternoon I counted no fewer than two dozen chemt...er, contrails in the sky at one time. The NWO must have something big planned if they're feeling the need to gas us into being subservient little sheeple.

That's one thing I've never understood about troofers. They can't see that some days there are dozens of trails, usually along with high-altitude cirrus clouds, while other days there are none, usually when the sky is clear blue. Why would the powers-that-be be so wasteful with the chemicals some days and so stingy the next?

Steve S.

[TjW]

Speaking of chemtrails.... Yesterday afternoon I counted no fewer than two dozen chemt...er, contrails in the sky at one time. The NWO must have something big planned if they're feeling the need to gas us into being subservient little sheeple.

That's one thing I've never understood about troofers. They can't see that some days there are dozens of trails, usually along with high-altitude cirrus clouds, while other days there are none, usually when the sky is clear blue. Why would the powers-that-be be so wasteful with the chemicals some days and so stingy the next?

Steve S.
It doesn't have to make sense: it's government policy.

[Bell]

It doesn't have to make sense: it's government policy.

I'm living pretty much under one of the (far) approach paths of Schiphol Airport, so airplanes are flying overhead daily. I have not experienced any negative sympthoms from this...

*keels over*

[AudioFreak]

I'm living pretty much under one of the (far) approach paths of Schiphol Airport, so airplanes are flying overhead daily. I have not experienced any negative sympthoms from this...

*keels over*

I lived right in the takeoff/approach flight path of Phoenix Sky Harbor for a few years. During that time, I experienced many health abnormalities including, among other things I won't mention, new body hair and inexplicable behavioral changes... I also started living there right before my 13th birthday, but I'm sure it's unrelated.

[Elizabeth I]

I'm living pretty much under one of the (far) approach paths of Schiphol Airport, so airplanes are flying overhead daily. I have not experienced any negative sympthoms from this...

*keels over*

I lived right in the takeoff/approach flight path of Phoenix Sky Harbor for a few years. During that time, I experienced many health abnormalities including, among other things I won't mention, new body hair and inexplicable behavioral changes... I also started living there right before my 13th birthday, but I'm sure it's unrelated.

I live near the San Antonio International Airport. We don't get a lot of "chem"trails, but I can tell you this - every now and then a pilot dumps excess fuel over my house just before landing and it makes me WISH for an odorless indetectible chemical to replace the neighborhood-wide fumigation by kerosene. Blah!

[Swing Dangler]

bolded part for your emphasis and editing, your original was cherry picked and changed, very dishonest because you claimed it was a quote and it was actually your interpretation of his quote
Originally Posted by swingie link
Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.<new paragraph> So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."
Originally Posted by Swingie
Terrorists are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.<swingie snipped part> It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."
bolded part for your emphasis and editing, your original was cherry picked and changed, very dishonest because you claimed it was a quote and it was actually your interpretation of his quote

Oh god, not again. The reading comprehension problem again.
Ok, genius lets look at the original quote from the secretary of defense that I posted.

Re-examine the original quote if you would:
Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off
earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic
waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work
finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's
real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and
that's why this is so important."

I didn't change anything from the quote, it appears the source ommitted this leaving this [terrorists] out of the quote.

None of it which changed the original meaning but actually clarified it for simpletons such as yourself that can't understand the point the speech was making. Others in the context of the quote is referring to terrorists. The majority of the article was about terrorists. If you can comprehend that, it is time to head back to English class.

If your going to try to attack my character by calling me dishonest and accusing me of cherry picking quotes, your going to have to do it better than that.

Now is there any chance you might want to attack the facts instead of the person?

BenBurch Swangler now thinks that terrorists have earthquake weapons???
Nope. It appears that the former Secretary of Defense believes that 'terrorists' are engaging in that type of terrorist activity. Did you not read the quote or was it reading comprehension again?

DR BUZZO-No, they didn't manage to find any way to change the weather beyond the standard methods of cloudseeding and such which are, at best, only marginally effective under certain conditions and in local areas.
Source?
Although I would agree with that assessment with regards to the publicly available information, we really have no idea what technology they have developed within classified projects, etc.

[Swing Dangler]

After some of my fans have been discussing the peer review issue, I thought many of you might find this interesting. That is the right the Peer Reviewed Weather Modification Journal which can be viewed here (http://www.weathermodification.org/journal.htm).

[Unsecured Coins]

You have fans? Dylan... is that YOU?

[BenBurch]

The JFK CT's were correct? Damn. If one was correct maybe, but all of them? That's kinda surprising.

So he was then shot by Oswald on the 5th floor, Oswald on the 6th floor, another guy on the 5th floor, another guy in the west window on the 5th floor, a guy in the dal tex building, a gun on the roof of the schoolbook depository, the driver of the car, the "Umberlla man" with a fake umbrella gun, a guy in the tree above zapruder, a guy behind the stockhad fence of the grassy knoll. A guy in front of the fence but behind the embankment, the "Three Tramps", a guy in a tree above the "Three Tramps" a guy behind them, a guy in the sewer drain, a guy on the overpass, a guy behind the "Steam pipe" on the overpass, Jack Ruby, George H W Bush, Governor Conley. A guy on the south knoll, a guy on the roof of the court records building....

Damn he didn't stand a chance with the dozens of conspiracies convirging at the same time!

All of the above is nonsense. JFK was shot by ME from the overpass with an AK-47. If you don't believe me, ask the Dealey Lama.

[Unsecured Coins]

Dahli Lama?

Damn it... I asked the Dahli Parton...

[BenBurch]

Dahli Lama?

Damn it... I asked the Dahli Parton...

A reference to a omniscient viewpoint character in; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus%21_Trilogy (Which everybody here should read - It is hilarious and you can see all of the roots of the present day CT madness in there.)

[Bell]

I live near the San Antonio International Airport. We don't get a lot of "chem"trails, but I can tell you this - every now and then a pilot dumps excess fuel over my house just before landing and it makes me WISH for an odorless indetectible chemical to replace the neighborhood-wide fumigation by kerosene. Blah!

They can just dump it like that? What with the health and environmental risks?

[Elizabeth I]

I live near the San Antonio International Airport. We don't get a lot of "chem"trails, but I can tell you this - every now and then a pilot dumps excess fuel over my house just before landing and it makes me WISH for an odorless indetectible chemical to replace the neighborhood-wide fumigation by kerosene. Blah!

They can just dump it like that? What with the health and environmental risks?

Well, the first time it happened I didn't have a clue what was up (thought there was some kind of chemical leak somewhere, which was surprising since there's not really a potential source anywhere near my house), so I called the fire department to report it (they control all the hazmat stuff here) and that's what the dispatcher told me. The same thing has happened several times since.

Maybe one of the pilots on the board can confirm or correct this?

[Corsair 115]

Maybe one of the pilots on the board can confirm or correct this?I'd suggest giving the FAA a call to find out what the official rules are on the subject.

[Bell]

Or send a PM to Apathoid.

ETA: I'm really curious, because it sounds like a violation of atleast some rule.

nvm

[Corsair 115]

I'm really curious, because it sounds like a violation of at least some rule.Same here. I was under the impression there were some fairly strict regulations about why and when an aircraft could dump fuel.

[Bell]

I've send Apathoid a PM.

ETA: Afaik El Al Flight 1862 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_1862) that crashed in Amsterdam in 1992 dumped fuel over the IJsselmeer (a large lake) when it was in trouble.

[funk de fino]

Here is a quote from Former US defense secretary William Cohen warns: "Terrorists are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."


Did you post this quote as being from Cohen?

Are these his actual words as in the transcript?

It's nothing to do with reading comprehension Swingie, you posted an incorrect quote that had been cherrypicked and edited

If you do not check your sources you have to carry the can for their inaccuracies and the fact it affected the focus of the statement onto to one line instead of a whole paragraph containing other threats.

No need for the snidey childish insults either because i attacked your quote as being incorrect

You were either badly mistaken or dishonest, which is it then?

[funk de fino]

In no circumstances were our aircraft allowed to dump fuel over land except in emergencies

We were next to the sea so most did it out there when required

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

I spent a year debating chemtrails with someone on another forum. I particularly liked the black chemtrails she was on about.

~~ Paul

[Unsecured Coins]

too bad I didn't save any of the messages I got when people started losing their minds when I said the Space Shuttle was a chemtrail vehicle. That was good stuff.

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

What could the cargo bay possibly be for if not tanks of chemicals?

~~ Paul

[Unsecured Coins]

What could the cargo bay possibly be for if not tanks of chemicals?

~~ Paul

Pallets of TANG and dehydrated fruit?

[BenBurch]

Pallets of TANG and dehydrated fruit?

No, man. That is where we hide the NWO Zero-G Sex Training Module.

[DRBUZZ0]

Oh god, not again. The reading comprehension problem again.
Ok, genius lets look at the original quote from the secretary of defense that I posted.



What's with the "reading comprehension" obsession. Do you even comprehend what you're reading? Seriously, don't make me get my SAT Reading comp score out. I'll put you to shame.






Although I would agree with that assessment with regards to the publicly available information, we really have no idea what technology they have developed within classified projects, etc.

Sure we have some idea. Even highly classified black projects are bound by the laws of physics and for that matter science in general. I also don't think there's a secret project to excede the speed of light by conventional means. Or one to convert energy with 800% effeciency. If there is, then they're wasting tax payer money because it ain't gona happen!

[tsig]

Speaking of chemtrails.... Yesterday afternoon I counted no fewer than two dozen chemt...er, contrails in the sky at one time. The NWO must have something big planned if they're feeling the need to gas us into being subservient little sheeple.

That's one thing I've never understood about troofers. They can't see that some days there are dozens of trails, usually along with high-altitude cirrus clouds, while other days there are none, usually when the sky is clear blue. Why would the powers-that-be be so wasteful with the chemicals some days and so stingy the next?

Steve S.

It's the days you don't see them when the chemicals are dumped. Visible trails are a "false flag".

The chemicals are additives to the jet fuel.

[WildCat]

In no circumstances were our aircraft allowed to dump fuel over land except in emergencies

We were next to the sea so most did it out there when required
Every once in a while there's a plane making an emergency landing at O'Hare and dumps fuel over Lake Michigan. Over land as a matter of routine seems strange.

[CurtC]

A few years ago I was out for a walk and noticed a plane flying above northeast Dallas dumping a big amber cloud. It circled for probably 45 minutes doing this. I got my binocs when I got home and saw that it was a British Airways 747. I guess if they're over Dallas, dumping over water was not an option. However, it was up at probably 10,000 feet, so the fuel should have all evaporated before it hit the ground.

I assume that it had just taken off from DFW on its way to London, had some emergency that it had to come back to land, but was too heavy to land.

[apathoid]

I'm fairly sure there is a regulation against dumping over land, but that said, there is also a regulation for not landing above max landing weight under any circumstances. So basically, pilots will dump over land if they have to in an emergency. A little Jet-A never hurt anybody, heck I'm immune to the stuff, I don't even smell it anymore. :D

[uk_dave]

A little Jet-A never hurt anybody, heck I'm immune to the stuff, I don't even smell it anymore. :D

Though those "No Naked Flames" patches sewn on to all your clothing must be a constant reminder. :D

[Bell]

I'm fairly sure there is a regulation against dumping over land, but that said, there is also a regulation for not landing above max landing weight under any circumstances. So basically, pilots will dump over land if they have to in an emergency. A little Jet-A never hurt anybody, heck I'm immune to the stuff, I don't even smell it anymore. :D

I hoped you would be sure, but thanks :)

Allthough it seems strange the airplanes over Elizabeth's neighborhood do it often (that's what I get from her post?), either there's a lot of emergencies or the pilots are asking for too much fuel at the airport of origin.