Ought there be a "Slaughter Rule" in debunking?

[BenBurch]

You know in chicago-style slow-pitch softball, when one team is 15 runs ahead of the other, the game is over.

And our present situation with the 911 CTers is; It's the bottom of the first inning. Gravy, our pitcher, struck out the first three Truther batters, and now we have been getting home runs on them from hits that should have been outs, including two inside-the-park grand slams. And the score is 40 to nothing.

[Dave Rogers]

I know nothing at all about baseball, but what's going on with LastChild at the moment isn't far off roughing the passer. He's down by contact, the referee's blown the play dead, and I think I'm looking at a fifteen-yard penalty.

Dave

[Mancman]

Baseball smasheball. Speak English!

[Unsecured Coins]

Fear does not exist in this dojo, does it?
No, Sensei!
Pain does not exist in this dojo, does it?
No, Sensei!
Defeat does not exist in this dojo, does it?
No, Sensei!
Prepare! What do we study here?
The way of the fist, sir!
And what is that way?
Strike first, strike hard, no mercy, sir!
I can't hear you!
Strike first, strike hard, no mercy, sir!

[Vincent Vega]

Fear does not exist in this dojo, does it?
No, Sensei!
Pain does not exist in this dojo, does it?
No, Sensei!
Defeat does not exist in this dojo, does it?
No, Sensei!
Prepare! What do we study here?
The way of the fist, sir!
And what is that way?
Strike first, strike hard, no mercy, sir!
I can't hear you!
Strike first, strike hard, no mercy, sir!

Wax on, wax off.

[Unsecured Coins]

wax off.

Is that what a truther does while he's waiting for evidence to fall from the heavens?

[MG1962]

Is that what a truther does while he's waiting for evidence to fall from the heavens?

No generally he has his hands a little lower:eek:

[Unsecured Coins]

sound it out, MG...

[chipmunk stew]

Sweep the leg!

[Unsecured Coins]

uFlQNtL8F9s

[chipmunk stew]

Get him a body bag!!!! YEAAHHHHH!!!! HEAEHAEHEHAH!!!!

[Unsecured Coins]

you're the best... AROUND... nothing's gonna ever keep ya down...

If you now have that song stuck in your head, send all hate mail to my pm box

[AudioFreak]

This analogy only works when both sides agree on it. If the team that's behind 15 refuses to leave the field...

[gumboot]

I know nothing at all about baseball, but what's going on with LastChild at the moment isn't far off roughing the passer. He's down by contact, the referee's blown the play dead, and I think I'm looking at a fifteen-yard penalty.

Dave


I almost feel sorry for SwingDangler in the "intercepts" thread. When I realised how ignorant he was of the topic I almost stopped posting.

But then I realised how much fun I'd have tearing him a new one. :D

Am I a bad person? :boxedin:

-Gumboot

[1337m4n]

Problem is, the majority of the Truth Movement is under the delusion that the 40-0 is in their favor.

Maybe they misinterpreted which side was "Home" and "Away" on the scoreboard? :D

[defaultdotxbe]

This analogy only works when both sides agree on it. If the team that's behind 15 refuses to leave the field...

Problem is, the majority of the Truth Movement is under the delusion that the 40-0 is in their favor.

Maybe they misinterpreted which side was "Home" and "Away" on the scoreboard? :D
theres 2 different umpires keeping 2 different scores

[brodski]

Baseball smasheball. Speak English!

I think he means that the truthers are following on.

[JimBenArm]

I almost feel sorry for SwingDangler in the "intercepts" thread. When I realised how ignorant he was of the topic I almost stopped posting.

But then I realised how much fun I'd have tearing him a new one. :D

Am I a bad person? :boxedin:

-Gumboot
Yes, but that's what we like about you.

[Crungy]

You know in chicago-style slow-pitch softball, when one team is 15 runs ahead of the other, the game is over.


The slaughter rule takes effect after 5 innings. I've been on both sides of it. I'm in the Chicago 16" engineers league, which plays on the beautiful Grant Park fields.

[T.A.M.]

Is that what a truther does while he's waiting for evidence to fall from the heavens?

no your confusing "wax off" with the truther "JAQs off".

TAM:)

[Gravy]

Over a year ago, R.Mackey started this thread:

Okay, I'm about ready to declare victory... (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=66969)

Very few new arguments have been introduced since then, and no truth movement champion has stepped up who isn't laughably incompetent like Richard Gage.

But while the truth movement hasn't gained appreciably in numbers, there are now many small organized groups that are good at drawing attention to themselves and spreading propaganda.

More importantly, the hundreds of truther websites have changed little and may stay online for years. Because of that ready-made online fantasy community of paranoia and stupidity, a newcomer to these issues need never be exposed to accurate information.

Over the past year I've been shortening the time in which I decide if someone is worth dealing with, and I feel good about that. I have lots of time for people who don't understand the issues. I have no time for people who want argue but who refuse to do their homework or to learn. I try to keep in mind that sometimes the score starts at 15-0.

[Gravy]

Happy birthday, Crungy! :not_ripe:

[Crungy]

Happy birthday, Crungy! :not_ripe:

Danke!

I brought donuts for my local NWO branch this morning. The hungry shills ate 'em all up! :p

[BenBurch]

The slaughter rule takes effect after 5 innings. I've been on both sides of it. I'm in the Chicago 16" engineers league, which plays on the beautiful Grant Park fields.

Excellent!

And Happy Natal Anniversary!

[leftysergeant]

Every time a new twoofer pops up and thinks that he has stumbled on some monumental truth, and thinks he is going to build a following, he needs to be put in his place before some poor schmuck comes along and sees his comments sitting in the public forum unchallenged and takes them for truth instead of twoof.

[AudioFreak]

Exactly. There are always newbs to this kind of stuff. The woo perpetuates, therefore the smackdown of reality needs to stay with it to prevent or slow the spread of the infection.

[pomeroo]

Over a year ago, R.Mackey started this thread:

Okay, I'm about ready to declare victory... (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=66969)

Very few new arguments have been introduced since then, and no truth movement champion has stepped up who isn't laughably incompetent like Richard Gage.

But while the truth movement hasn't gained appreciably in numbers, there are now many small organized groups that are good at drawing attention to themselves and spreading propaganda.

More importantly, the hundreds of truther websites have changed little and may stay online for years. Because of that ready-made online fantasy community of paranoia and stupidity, a newcomer to these issues need never be exposed to accurate information.

Over the past year I've been shortening the time in which I decide if someone is worth dealing with, and I feel good about that. I have lots of time for people who don't understand the issues. I have no time for people who want argue but who refuse to do their homework or to learn. I try to keep in mind that sometimes the score starts at 15-0.


I have stated that Griffin's flight from Mackey's paper makes the victory official. Note that every conspiracy liar who taken a crack at rationalizing his hero's craven retreat pretends that the issue has something to do with me. The loons are forced to pretend that Griffin refused my invitation to appear on 'Hardfire' because the truth--he agreed to an interview before the publication of Mackey's paper--simply cannot be faced.

[defaultdotxbe]

The slaughter rule takes effect after 5 innings. I've been on both sides of it. I'm in the Chicago 16" engineers league, which plays on the beautiful Grant Park fields.
i play 12" in the south suburbs, for us we have 2 slaughter rules, i think its 10 runs before the 5th inning, 15 runs after

...i actually have an ASA rulebook in my car, i think ill go grab it on my lunch break....

[T.A.M.]

I have stated that Griffin's flight from Mackey's paper makes the victory official. Note that every conspiracy liar who taken a crack at rationalizing his hero's craven retreat pretends that the issue has something to do with me. The loons are forced to pretend that Griffin refused my invitation to appear on 'Hardfire' because the truth--he agreed to an interview before the publication of Mackey's paper--simply cannot be faced.

I think his rejection of the debate goes deeper than that. I think he agreed before he had done enough reading, or enough research, to realize he was getting in over his head. Once he did so, he realized the debate would result in the illusion of his greatness within the community shattered (lost fame, lost income). He was smarter than Fetzer in this regard.

TAM:)

[OldTigerCub]

Over a year ago, R.Mackey started this thread:

Okay, I'm about ready to declare victory... (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=66969)

Very few new arguments have been introduced since then, and no truth movement champion has stepped up who isn't laughably incompetent like Richard Gage.

But while the truth movement hasn't gained appreciably in numbers, there are now many small organized groups that are good at drawing attention to themselves and spreading propaganda.

More importantly, the hundreds of truther websites have changed little and may stay online for years. Because of that ready-made online fantasy community of paranoia and stupidity, a newcomer to these issues need never be exposed to accurate information.

Over the past year I've been shortening the time in which I decide if someone is worth dealing with, and I feel good about that. I have lots of time for people who don't understand the issues. I have no time for people who want argue but who refuse to do their homework or to learn. I try to keep in mind that sometimes the score starts at 15-0.

It amazes me that you have the patience to answer troother claims so thoroughly so many times, Gravy. Every time I think the false statements of one troother have been sufficiently discredited, another comes along with pretty much the same arguments...though every time I watch all of the qualified debunkers here present the facts...and pretty much debunk the same things over and over...I feel like I learn something new or see a piece of evidence I was unaware of before.
To all of the people who put in the time to do the research and to help fight paranoid foolishness, I say thanks.:)

[LashL]

Over a year ago, R.Mackey started this thread:

Okay, I'm about ready to declare victory... (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=66969)

Very few new arguments have been introduced since then, and no truth movement champion has stepped up who isn't laughably incompetent like Richard Gage.

But while the truth movement hasn't gained appreciably in numbers, there are now many small organized groups that are good at drawing attention to themselves and spreading propaganda.

More importantly, the hundreds of truther websites have changed little and may stay online for years. Because of that ready-made online fantasy community of paranoia and stupidity, a newcomer to these issues need never be exposed to accurate information.

Over the past year I've been shortening the time in which I decide if someone is worth dealing with, and I feel good about that. I have lots of time for people who don't understand the issues. I have no time for people who want argue but who refuse to do their homework or to learn. I try to keep in mind that sometimes the score starts at 15-0.

Well said, that.

[hellaeon]

In football terms (Aussie) its akin to the Grand final this year. Sucked in Port.

In cricket, its no different to Australia against anyone hahaha

In soccer terms - its like watching full strength Man U v Fiji u15 National Squad.

[defaultdotxbe]

In football terms (Aussie) its akin to the Grand final this year. Sucked in Port.

in football terms (real) its akin to the 1940 championship game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Championship_Game%2C_1940)

[Hokulele]

in football terms (real) its akin to the 1940 championship game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Championship_Game%2C_1940)


Or the current New England Patriots.

Brady to Moss!


(I never get tired of saying that.)

[LashL]

Speaking of real football, today was a great day for CFL fans (like me). The Eastern final and Western final were both great. I am so looking forward to the Grey Cup game next Sunday. Saskatchewan Roughriders v. Winnipeg Bluebombers... go, Roughriders!

[qarnos]

Baseball smasheball. Speak English!

He's saying we should declare. :D

[RedIbis]

It depends on what team you're playing. Granted, if you're up against Von Kleist, Hufschmid, Haupt, Fetzer, Wood, etc, sure they don't have any good pitching and they rarely, if ever hit homers.

But on another team Jim Hoffman is the closer and he'll throw that wicked cutter, the WTC 7, which I haven't seen anyone touch.

Griffin's a solid fielder, known to make an error once in a while, but his scrappy play makes him a reliable fielder.

Alex Jones is all power hitter, either a home run or a strike out.

Steven Jones, the wily knuckleballer, you think it's easy to hit, but it proves elusive.

Paul Thompson, a steady and reliable fielder who hits for average.

And the bench is deep as well, role players like George Nelson, Stubblebine, Hicks and Tarpley.

[Good Lt]

Granted, if you're up against Von Kleist, Hufschmid, Haupt, Fetzer, Wood, etc, sure they don't have any good pitching and they rarely, if ever hit homers.


Yes, except that they don't even hit singles. They're winless, hitless and chock full of fail, just like the movement to which they claim allegiance.

But on another team Jim Hoffman is the closer and he'll throw that wicked cutter, the WTC 7, which I haven't seen anyone touch.

Griffin's a solid fielder, known to make an error once in a while, but his scrappy play makes him a reliable fielder.

Alex Jones is all power hitter, either a home run or a strike out.

Steven Jones, the wily knuckleballer, you think it's easy to hit, but it proves elusive.

Paul Thompson, a steady and reliable fielder who hits for average.

And the bench is deep as well, role players like George Nelson, Stubblebine, Hicks and Tarpley.

:nope:

[BenBurch]

Stubblebine, and Tarpley?

Is this the team from the "special school" then?

[lordofwaffles]

The only thing I can imagine Alex Jones doing is slamming the bat against the plate over and over again accusing it of being a FEMA plant.

The truther team remains task force short bus.

[RedIbis]

NIST is up at the plate:

"We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse."

Swing and a misssssssss....

[BenBurch]

NIST is up at the plate:

"We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse."

Swing and a misssssssss....

Actually, that was a grand slam.

NOBODY could POSSIBLY provide a full simulation of the collapse.

If you differ with that, I want your computer model with full source code by next week. :D

[RedIbis]

Next up, FEMA

"the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence."

It seems as no one can hit the WTC 7 "cutter."

[Good Lt]

9-11 Troof up to bat now.

Here's the stretch...and the pitch...

Provide any evidence of the puported inside job...

OHHHHhh--Strike 27! They've used all of their outs for the whole game in one at-bat!

What monumental fail! Unbelievable!

[BenBurch]

Next up, FEMA

"the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence."

It seems as no one can hit the WTC 7 "cutter."

That was an error on your part, all runners advance and Gumboot comes home.

(Hint, you seem to lack the basic idea that it is dishonest to cherry-pick quotes totally without context to prove a point you already know to be wrong.)

[Wildy]

Has anyone mentioned yet that the problem with having a slaughter rule in debunking is that the people you are debunking won't take any notice.

They are like the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail

" Oh, oh I see. Running away, eh?! You yellow [censored]! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'LL BITE YOUR LEGS OFF!"

[TheRedWorm]

It's kind of hard to hit a pitch when the pitcher spends 47 hours telling you about how bad you will look when he strikes you out, but refuses to actually throw the damn ball!

[RedIbis]

That was an error on your part, all runners advance and Gumboot comes home.

(Hint, you seem to lack the basic idea that it is dishonest to cherry-pick quotes totally without context to prove a point you already know to be wrong.)

Oh, so FEMA knows what caused the collapse of WTC 7? NIST hasn't told us, Lee Hamilton admits it's an unresolved issue, so where's the theory on 7, the unhittable pitch?

[BenBurch]

Oh, so FEMA knows what caused the collapse of WTC 7? NIST hasn't told us, Lee Hamilton admits it's an unresolved issue, so where's the theory on 7, the unhittable pitch?

You expect me to tell you what an investigation is going to reveal before its done???

That's the Modus Operandi of you "Truth" frauds!

I'm content to wait until all of the engineering has been done, but I can understand how your side wants to have the conclusions FIRST, as your evidence is 100% dishonest.

[RedIbis]

You expect me to tell you what an investigation is going to reveal before its done???

That's the Modus Operandi of you "Truth" frauds!

I'm content to wait until all of the engineering has been done, but I can understand how your side wants to have the conclusions FIRST, as your evidence is 100% dishonest.

You mean WTC 7 hasn't been debunked, hit out of the park? I thought it was 15-0 in the fifth and time to call the mercy rule? I thought Gravy laid all conspiracy theories to waste and he was going to give us the "facts."

The most honest of skeptics will admit that WTC 7 experienced several phenomena that cannot be explained simply by debris damage and diesel fuel.

[Good Lt]

The most honest of skeptics

Like who?


will admit that WTC 7 experienced several phenomena that cannot be explained simply by debris damage and diesel fuel.


I see. But imaginary controlled demolitions that nobody can seem to prove existed explain everything.

Strike 28. Yer out.

[chipmunk stew]

The game was over months ago. The score remains a million to zero. RedIbis is still trying to convince people that the umpires were biased and the win should have gone to Team Truther.

[RedIbis]

The game was over months ago. The score remains a million to zero. RedIbis is still trying to convince people that the umpires were biased and the win should have gone to Team Truther.

Really? Where have I said anything even remotely close? I am far more objective and reasoned to think I've "won" anything. The closeminded here believe they have won an argument simply because explanations have been given.

Debunking is the business of providing plausible explanations, regardless of whether or not they are true.

You guys still can't hit the nasty WTC 7 cutter.

[Unsecured Coins]

you haven't even swung at the thermite knuckler. Or the CD slider...

[Good Lt]

Debunking is the business of providing plausible explanations

Right. You know nothing about it.

...regardless of whether or not they are true.

Sorry, but I think that's called Trooferism.

you haven't even swung at the thermite knuckler. Or the CD slider...


Well, he can't swing, seeing that he struck out 27 times in one at bat and lost the game single-handedly. He couldn't hit the "Provide evidence" floating change-up, even though he just kept swinging and swinging.

Keep swinging for those bleachers, Red. Maybe you'll give the outfielder a cold.

[kookbreaker]

But on another team Jim Hoffman is the closer and he'll throw that wicked cutter, the WTC 7, which I haven't seen anyone touch.


Hoffman sits in the dugout all day and talks about what a great player he is, his fellow players tell the same story. The one time he actually played he made 4 errors and struck out every time he was up, and that was years ago.


Griffin's a solid fielder, known to make an error once in a while, but his scrappy play makes him a reliable fielder.


Griffin can field the ball, but then he invariably throws it into the stands. He also complains that the other team should be called for being 'offisdes' or 'icing'. At one game he showed up on a steel plated motorcycle.


Alex Jones is all power hitter, either a home run or a strike out.


Alex Jones has never managed to hit the ball in his life. When he swings the bat he spins several times and makes the catcher and umpire jump out of the way of his flailing. He also tries to get other people to charge the mound when the pitcher throws a strike.


Steven Jones, the wily knuckleballer, you think it's easy to hit, but it proves elusive.


Jones throws the ball at the ground so that it bounces four times and barely makes it to the plate, not that it would have made it to the plate had he thrown it straight: To impress people, he once had his pitch measured with radar, but had to give the figure as millimeters per hour to make the numbers seem bigger. More often Jones just tries to palm the ball as if he were trying to fool a dog, then complains that the ref didn't call a strike.

The cheerleaders are also clumsy and ugly as well.

[Good Lt]

:dl:
Kookbreaker wins.

Flawless victory.

[RedIbis]

you haven't even swung at the thermite knuckler. Or the CD slider...

The metaphor is getting a bit tired, isn't it?

[RedIbis]

The cheerleaders are also clumsy and ugly as well.

Au contraire,



http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/jrubins101/Hottruthers.jpg

[Good Lt]

Cute, but not too bright.

Here's another Troofer cheerleader (http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/rosie05.jpg) you guys seem to like.

HOT.

[RedIbis]

Cute, but not too bright.

Here's another Troofer cheerleader (http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/rosie05.jpg) you guys seem to like.

HOT.

That was cruel.

[SDC]

That was cruel.

The real truth (not Truth[TM]) is often cruel.

[1337m4n]

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/jrubins101/Hottruthers.jpg

Fellow JREFers, I'm not sure how to tell you this...

...but I am now a Truther.

You see, the thing is, I've come to realize something you guys haven't: there were, uh, silent thermite bombs, with, uh, space beams attached to them. Space beams which projected holographic planes loaded with Tomahawk missiles. They flew north of the Citgo, too.

9/11 was an inside job!
9/11 was an inside job!
9/11 was an inside job!
9/11 was an inside job!
9/11 was an inside job!

[BenBurch]

The real truth (not Truth[TM]) is often cruel.

Even the lesbians don't want her any more.

They made her give back the toaster ovens.

[1337m4n]

It seems as no one can hit the WTC 7 "cutter."

If I may borrow a horribly cliche atheist argument, allow me to suggest that WTC 7 was destroyed by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Now it is up to you to prove me wrong, otherwise you get a strike. Sound fair?

[technoextreme]

You guys still can't hit the nasty WTC 7 cutter.
Yeah we can. WTC 5 started buckling and collapsing because of the damage/fires done to it. In fact it's readily apparent to anyone that a large enough fire can do massive damage to the girders because there are pictures of them in the NIST report.

[BenBurch]

Yeah we can. WTC 5 started buckling and collapsing because of the damage/fires done to it. In fact it's readily apparent to anyone that a large enough fire can do massive damage to the girders because there are pictures of them in the NIST report.

Exactly. But Truthers still lie to people and tell them that only 1,2, and 7 collapsed.

Side note; Can you IMAGINE dating a Truther? You'd never get the straight story on Anything;

"Of course I don't have Herpes!"

"You look good in that."

"Of course its big enough for me!"
:eek:

[jhunter1163]

That was cruel.

No. Cruel would have been using a picture of the Webfairy there.

[BenBurch]

No. Cruel would have been using a picture of the Webfairy there.

Happy Natal Anniversary!

[Architect]

You know this is unfair. We should balance the teams and give them a few of our guys, just to make a match of it.

[Architect]

You see, the thing is, I've come to realize something you guys haven't: there were, uh, silent thermite bombs, with, uh, space beams attached to them. Space beams which projected holographic planes loaded with Tomahawk missiles. They flew north of the Citgo, too.



That's nothing. I've just specified C4 coated rebar for my latest concrete framed tall buildings project. Cost a bloody packet, but it'll really surprise them in 30 years time when the NWO explodes it! ;)

[BenBurch]

That's nothing. I've just specified C4 coated rebar for my latest concrete framed tall buildings project. Cost a bloody packet, but it'll really surprise them in 30 years time when the NWO explodes it! ;)

Oh! You didn't get the briefing on that!?

The scheme is that to even out the cost of the C4 coated rebar, you simply use less rebar and put a lot more sand in the concrete. Then when it goes, you get that satisfying "Dustification" effect we did so well with WTC.

[Architect]

The trouble with that is the period of legal liability for negligence in the UK. I'm looking for something to last at least 20 years, or else our PII run-off cover will cost a packet.........

[hellaeon]

in football terms (real) its akin to the 1940 championship game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Championship_Game%2C_1940)


NFL???? thats complete crap.
Get the pads off and be men, not little truther kids.

[Architect]

Yea, and we mean Union, not League........!

[hellaeon]

Those girls and mum are truthers?

So where do I sign up.

You know 9/11 was an inside job and all....
Would they care if I left in the morning after bukkakeing them ...er... with facts?

[hellaeon]

Yea, and we mean Union, not League........!

NOOOO!!!!!

A F L

and dont bring up cousins!
AFL stars dont retire anymore, they just go to the NFL at the end of their careers cause those blokes cant kick a football properly.

[BenBurch]

AFL stars dont retire anymore, they just go to the NFL at the end of their careers cause those blokes cant kick a football properly.

That's why Arena Football was invented where there is no kicking...

[Architect]

Yer all a bunch of jessies. Union is the only game for real men.......

....which is why nose looks like a relief map of the Himalayas

[Hokulele]

Happy Birthday jhunter!

[Unsecured Coins]

Those girls and mum are truthers?

So where do I sign up.

Not a Truther. I think I'll stay where I'm at.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/k2.jpg

[Architect]

How did you get a picture of my wife?

[leftysergeant]

That's nothing. I've just specified C4 coated rebar for my latest concrete framed tall buildings project. Cost a bloody packet, but it'll really surprise them in 30 years time when the NWO explodes it! ;)

Don't even think of defaulting on your loans or defrauding your architecht.

[Unsecured Coins]

How did you get a picture of my wife?

cause we're dating. But you're not supposed to know that

[Foolmewunz]

Sports analogy for our friends north of the border.

As a threesome of Marky X, Ryan Mackey, and Gravy circles hungrily in on the LCF crew trapped in their own end.....

Desperate Fan: Dylan, Dump the Puck!

[Architect]

Isn't China north of your border?

[The Silver Shadow]

Just a thought, and I'm too lazy to go back and check, but wouldn't truthers institute their own 'slaughter rule' because they will think that they are telling "the truth" and blame us for moving the goalposts, etc.?

[jhunter1163]

Thanks for the birthday wishes Ben and Hoku. I'll add you to the list of people I'm toasting tonight. I'm going to have a LOT of trouble getting the beer glass close to my mouth by the end of the evening.

[Crazy Chainsaw]

NO "Slaughter Rule" in debunking?

Truthers are like horse flys, catch them pull one of the wings off, so they spin in a circle, then place them on an ant hill, and see how long it takes for them to anger the ants and be eaten.

Or treat them like ticks, when caught take them and drop them down ant lion holes and allow the ant lion to slowly pull them under.

Or like leaches salt and dry them or use them for Bass bait.

No need to tolerate un wanted pests.

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Not a Truther. I think I'll stay where I'm at.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/k2.jpg

Quit manufacturing evidence, that picture appears to be air brushed an photo shopped and he ears are move back some what.

Honest debunking only please, and do you happen to have her phone number?

[Unsecured Coins]

do you happen to have her phone number?

actually, yes, yes I do.

[qarnos]

Honest debunking only please, and do you happen to have her phone number?

867-5309

Ask for Jenny.

:D

[Crazy Chainsaw]

actually, yes, yes I do.

You know we the NWO. have ways of making you talk, you can not keep anything from us.
We no longer water board and torture, we simply put you in a room with giant video screens playing truther Youtube videos, every truther youtube video ever made.
Eventually your brain will dissolve, and we can then find the information we want, it is a little inhuman and a little messy but it works.

[quixotecoyote]

867-5309

Ask for Jenny.

:D

I did the math once and figured out that number should have been about 5 miles from the house I grew up in, if you assume the area code matched.

[kookbreaker]

Those girls and mum are truthers?

So where do I sign up.

You know 9/11 was an inside job and all....
Would they care if I left in the morning after bukkakeing them ...er... with facts?

There's millions of pretty girls in the world.

Give me ones with working brains.

Troofer girls don't got that.

[kookbreaker]

NFL???? thats complete crap.
Get the pads off and be men,

Uh yeah. Tell you what, you play a few sets of downs in the NFL, with full pads, and I'll play some of that psudo-rugby of yours.

Then see who can move the next morning. Or walk a week later.

[tomwaits]

NFL???? thats complete crap.
Get the pads off and be men, not little truther kids.

To be fair, in 1940 the helmet used was the leather helmet, which I can't believe did very much in the way of protection. Also, that championship game was the last instance of a player NOT wearing a helmet: Dick Plasman of the chicago bears (it wasn't required until 1943). And they certainly didn't wear the pads that they do now.

/huge bears fan

[tsig]

I did the math once and figured out that number should have been about 5 miles from the house I grew up in, if you assume the area code matched.

I did jenny once. Does that count?

[BenBurch]

Here is what I wonder; When you didn't have pads were the hits less violent? I have played both football and rugby, and though I got hurt more often in rugby, I think the actual amount of force used, and hence the strain on joints, is less in rugby.

[hellaeon]

Uh yeah. Tell you what, you play a few sets of downs in the NFL, with full pads, and I'll play some of that psudo-rugby of yours.

Then see who can move the next morning. Or walk a week later.

hahaha are you serious? You run for two seconds then have a massive break and some other runner comes on.

AFL is 2 hours flat out running with 4 subs. We are talking 20k flat out running per game.

Your sport is WEAK. Like a truther!

Even David Boon, one of our most famous cricketers ran more then your NFL blokes!

These are facts, take your truther arguements to LCF

;)

[hellaeon]

There's millions of pretty girls in the world.

Give me ones with working brains.

Troofer girls don't got that.

I did say i would leave in the morning....

[kookbreaker]

Here is what I wonder; When you didn't have pads were the hits less violent? I have played both football and rugby, and though I got hurt more often in rugby, I think the actual amount of force used, and hence the strain on joints, is less in rugby.

Before pads, the dominant factor in football was the swivel-hipped runner. These were guys like Johnny Blood et al who could run and shift part of their lower body to evade the 'tackles' that were little more than attempts to grapple. The reason these tackle attempts were so weak is becuase there was an equal chance of the tackler getting injured badly as well. It was rare that a defender would try to moves that modern players would use. You can see this in rugby, et al. You grab, grapple, hold and drag. Wheras in the NFL, to tackle you head in at full force trying to use imapct and momentum to bring the player down. It isn't pretty, and the pads favor the impactor over the impactee. Grabbing is almost secondary, but important; the idea is to stop the player with impact then bring him down.

The result? Less bumps, scrapes and bruises, and more potential for long-term and crippling injuries. A rugby player will get more bumps, cuts and bruises than a American football player, but at the end of his career he won't have anything beyond the scars.

By comparison, studies are now coming out showing what many have known for a few decades: Retired NFL players show a host of crippling injuries at ages much younger than they should. Give me some stats of how many retired Aussie Football players need help putting their clothes on at age 50 and then we'll talk.

Its not just the retired players either: NFL players play with a lot of pain, and most careers end in about three years. John Madden has stated "I don't know of any person who could play a set of downs in the NFL and come out physically the same person".

Now keep in mind, this is the NFL. Not little kids in Peewee, or High School, or even College, although the potential is still there! (http://www.unc.edu/depts/nccsi/CataFootballInjuries.htm). In the NFL , you are talking about huge, fast players going full tilt, and they are able to hit you as hard as possible because they know how to use the pads to not get hurt, while the impact you take is kind of random.

So let's drop this 'pads=wimps/no-pads=macho' silliness, shall we?

[kookbreaker]

I did say i would leave in the morning....

With a new friend! (http://www.giantmicrobes.com/us/products/pox.html)

[Foolmewunz]

Cheap joke time....


From the OP....

Q: Ought there be a "Slaughter Rule" in debunking?

A: Yes, defnitely! Where's that Genghis Khan fella when we really need him, though?



(Rimshot!) G'night everyone! I'm here all week! Try the veal, okay? And don't forget to be good to your waitress, too!