I guess LC:FC WAS all about the $$$...

[Good Lt]

Heh. (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=19250)

The LTW folks would really appreciate it if people would purchase it instead of pirating it.

It cost hundreds of thousands to make the film, and the LTW crew needs to pay back debts to their investors. Think about it this way. A couple of young guys took a HUGE personal risk by financing a film that is critically important to this country and the world. The least that the rest of the world could contribute is $6.95 or $19.95 to help repay the debt and keep the creators out of debt.

As soon as the investors are paid back, the film will be more readily available. In the meantime, do your little part. At LEAST have enough respect not to come in to the Loose Change Forum asking for handouts. The LTW crew has proven their dedication to this cause, and next time you're in Starbucks paying $4.00 for a lousy corporate coffee, remember you're over 1/2 way to the $7 you need to help some great Americans spread the word and change the world.

By the way, thanks to all the forum members who seem to get this!

-Jeff More lulz:

You'd be surprised to hear what things cost. I'm not at liberty to give details, plus I don't honestly have them all. Check this out: UK Preview (http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/loose-change-final-cut-%E2%80%93-uk-premier/1657/) - close to 1 million according to that.

Just the cameras that they use and the machine to edit will set you back $50,000. Think about traveling around the country filming. The 3d animations cost quite a bit. It all adds up.

Don't forget, these figures don't include the many hours the guys spent making it and the salaries they should be making. (ed. - HAH!) Think about it, even if you assume it's 3 people (it's actually more like 6) working full time for a year on the film, and then assume they each earn even a measly $15 an hour, then it's $90,000 just on the salaries they should be making. Now I'm not saying they've taken a penny for it, but I sure think they should, and when you scoff at the cost, I think you're not seeing the whole picture.They're making money by spitting on the graves of the 9-11 dead. They deserve they go into irreconcilable bankruptcy.

[contra]

So he's going back to his original plan... making a movie about the government doing a terrorist attack, and he makes money.

And now the circle is complete

[Sporanox]

Yeah, I think I'd go for the corporate coffee. It's Dylan's own fault that he's working "full time" on this dead horse.

Any thoughts as to whether the LC creators will actually sanction pirating of Final Cut when they get "enough money?" Exactly what is "enough money" anyway?

-Sporanox

[Alareth]

Hmm ... "Think about it, even if you assume it's 3 people (it's actually more like 6) working full time for a year on the film ..."

Soooo ... They didn't actually even start on it until AFTER the 5th anniversary when it was supposed to originally be released?

[OldTigerCub]

Heh. (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=19250)

More lulz:

They're making money by spitting on the graves of the 9-11 dead. They deserve they go into irreconcilable bankruptcy.

Soooo....to venture a guess....might the next release be called "Loose Change:Chapter 11 Edition"? :p

[Caper]

I hope they never make a dime on this... NOT a dime... A truther lecturing on respect.

[ConspiRaider]

The best things in Life are fwee.

Like Twoof.

[60hzxtl]

Pirating?


Pot? Meet kettle!

[Unsecured Coins]

don't forget kiddies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/piracyglobalwarming.jpg

by not purchasing his movie, you help save the planet!!

[Reality Believer]

The cold grip of reality is beginning to close around LTW throats. They are becoming the very thing they are supposedly combating. Buahahahahaha!

[Good Lt]

NWO wins again!

THERE IS NO ESCAPE!!

:degrin:

See, now if they had the Troofer bucks thing up and running, none of this would even be an issue.

[maxpower1227]

If you don't want to go bankrupt over a movie, maybe you should make sure your target audience is a) older than 18 and b) employed.

[Unsecured Coins]

If you don't want to go bankrupt over a movie, maybe you should make sure your target audience is a) older than 18 and b) employed.

"our demographics indicate we have not reached the target market"

I pray to the FSM there is no Loose Change, The Video Game.

[1337m4n]

Reminds me of one of my favorite "Weird Al" hits:

oA_XRHWfBsI

[A W Smith]

Thanks for the reminder to put my Azureus back up again to continue seeding LCFE.

[defaultdotxbe]

Reminds me of one of my favorite "Weird Al" hits:

oA_XRHWfBsI
and that reminds me of one of my favorite nerdcore songs

2zTPDVkVFOs

[GwionX]

With all of the hullabaloo around the Loosechange Final Cut release (an Alex Jones joint) it is quite interesting to see Barney.com surpassing even Infowars on the alexa site ratings..BWAHAHAH I would consider that a Flop-o-rama that makes Gigli look like Gone with the Wind.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/gwion/Alexagraph.png

[Aardvark422]

You know, it's not admirable (or patriotic) to have to sacrifice for what you believe is a worthy cause.

Oh wait.....

Aardvark

[Unsecured Coins]

and that reminds me of one of my favorite nerdcore songs

2zTPDVkVFOs

oh yeah?
J_pfmrj0rxc

Joscho Stephan FTW

[Gazpacho]

Unfortunately for Dylan, he cut out the one thing that made the other versions remotely watchable: the cheap hip-hop.

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

"our demographics indicate we have not reached the target market"

I pray to the FSM there is no Loose Change, The Video Game.
comic relief???

never...

[OldTigerCub]

"our demographics indicate we have not reached the target market"

I pray to the FSM there is no Loose Change, The Video Game.

If "Cats" (the musical) couldn't inspire a video game, it's a pretty safe bet LC doesn't have a chance.

P.S.- Love the graph,GwionX!:p

[Unsecured Coins]

comic relief???

never...

hey... every now and then I say something that gets a slight chuckle from the masses.

The rest of my jibba jibba leaves them in that awkward silence seen in most pre-teens first date scenarios

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

hey... every now and then I say something that gets a slight chuckle from the masses.

The rest of my jibba jibba leaves them in that awkward silence seen in most pre-teens first date scenarios
What??? Are you suggesting that skeptics don't have a sense of humor???

You make me laugh on a daily basis...

[Unsecured Coins]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/quagmire.jpg

[OldTigerCub]

"our demographics indicate we have not reached the target market"

I pray to the FSM there is no Loose Change, The Video Game.

[slight derail]Your prayers have been answered, or at least the mainstream has acknowledged His Noodly Goodness! I got a chuckle from this CNN story about FSM. (http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/personal/11/16/flying.spaghettimonster.ap/index.html)[/slight derail]

[Unsecured Coins]

i wonder what LC:TVG would be like.

I envision it would start out like the NES version of Metal Gear, where you get dropped off with nothing except a glistening pile of tin on your cranium, and your only weapon is your fist that you can never seem to hit yourself with. As you journey the map in search of facts, you pick up media attention here, a group of fans there, and of course, the cardboard box, used not to hide yourself from skeptics and reality, but as your lone source of shelter after your masterpiece bombs like Beverly Hills Cop 3.

As the game continues, you are forced to explain what's taking you so long to your friends and family, who continue to watch you play and play, but never seem to win anything. You don't advance any levels, you don't power up, you just seem to wander around trying to dig a canal with a tooth pick.

Rated M for Mature.

[Hokulele]

You need to work a tin-foil hat into this to be credible.

[Gazpacho]

i wonder what LC:TVG would be like.
Let's not forget the bosses: Bill Maher, Larry Silverstein, and assorted political figures whom you "beat" simply by being on the screen with them.

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

i wonder what LC:TVG would be like.

I envision it would start out like the NES version of Metal Gear, where you get dropped off with nothing except a glistening pile of tin on your cranium, and your only weapon is your fist that you can never seem to hit yourself with. As you journey the map in search of facts, you pick up media attention here, a group of fans there, and of course, the cardboard box, used not to hide yourself from skeptics and reality, but as your lone source of shelter after your masterpiece bombs like Beverly Hills Cop 3.

As the game continues, you are forced to explain what's taking you so long to your friends and family, who continue to watch you play and play, but never seem to win anything. You don't advance any levels, you don't power up, you just seem to wander around trying to dig a canal with a tooth pick.

Rated M for Mature.
Ouch...

A glistening pile of tin???

I am going to crawl into my cardboard box and hide from you skeptics and reality... I may cry a little too!!!

[Unsecured Coins]

now now... don't get too upset. we have Danish baskets for you when you come out and socialize

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

now now... don't get too upset. we have Danish baskets for you when you come out and socialize
What exactly is a danish basket?

[Unsecured Coins]

it's a basket. filled with select danishes.

I know, I was confused at first too. :D

[MetalliSociety]

"A lousy corporate coffee" Isn't his myspace avatar a fake Rolling Stone cover of him and hos crew and hes holding a Starbucks coffee? LTW is so full of contradictions...

[Shrinker]

With all of the hullabaloo around the Loosechange Final Cut release (an Alex Jones joint) it is quite interesting to see Barney.com surpassing even Infowars on the alexa site ratings..BWAHAHAH I would consider that a Flop-o-rama that makes Gigli look like Gone with the Wind.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/gwion/Alexagraph.png


http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/3617473ed17556743.gif

A million bucks huh? Good luck guys! :D

[ref]

Here is Dylan saying, it cost $200-$250K to make the film.

(livefreeordietryin @ Nov 16 2007, 03:50 AM) It's all speculation at this point, for all we know they made it for a cool 50,000$

Dylan: Take that number and multiply it by at least 4 or 5...

Two years, alot of traveling, alot of interviews, and alot of footage to be cleared and paid for.

It will be free as soon as our investors have their money back.http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=19250&view=findpost&p=14696716

I think the investors never get their money back. And Dylan said 10% of the profits will go to first responders. I guess they get nothing either.

Some calculations:

250 000 / 19,95 = 12 531. They would have to sell 12 531 DVD's to pay back their investors and get even.

250 000 / 6,95 = 35 971. They would have to sell 35 971 live streams to pay back their investors and get even.

Until then, no profits, no donations.

[qarnos]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/quagmire.jpg

Giggety, giggety!

[Shrinker]

Here is Dylan saying, it cost $200-$250K to make the film.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=19250&view=findpost&p=14696716

I think the investors never get their money back. And Dylan said 10% of the profits will go to first responders. I guess they get nothing either.

Some calculations:

250 000 / 19,95 = 12 531. They would have to sell 12 531 DVD's to pay back their investors and get even.

250 000 / 6,95 = 35 971. They would have to sell 35 971 live streams to pay back their investors and get even.

Until then, no profits, no donations.

From that thread, confirmation that Final Cut v1.1 is on its way...

The audio issues have been corrected on the DVD version. The spelling mistakes, unfortunately, are still there. They'll be fixed at the next pressing, but that won't be for a while. sorry! There was a rush to get this done in the very end and some typos slipped through.Apparently LC:FC is v1 'Writen by Dylan Avery'. Doesn't that just say it all? :D

[8den]

I also adore the logic

"we'll make it available for free once our investors make their money back'

Yes because thats why you invest in something. To break even. You plow the cash in for no benefit to yourself at all. Yessire bob.

Shrinker I just added that to the Stundie thread as well :D

[qarnos]

From that thread, confirmation that Final Cut v1.1 is on its way...

Apparently LC:FC is v1 'Writen by Dylan Avery'. Doesn't that just say it all? :D

I wish I could find the thread where Dylan hinted at the prospect of another version.

He said something like "your feedback will let us know if we need to change anything".

That's not an exact quote, but good enough for a CTist.

[qarnos]

I also adore the logic

"we'll make it available for free once our investors make their money back'

Their investors? You mean LTW + Alex "if LC doesn't do well I will be bankrupt" Jones?

Spleth. Who cares? They are losers. Anyway; what's the problem with taking one for the team in the most important cause in the history of history?

Yes because thats why you invest in something. To break even. You plow the cash in for no benefit to yourself at all. Yessire bob.

So 8bit is acknowledging the only reason Dylan did LC:FC is for the cash? That's the first thing he ever got right.

[JimBenArm]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/powers05/quagmire.jpg
The scary thing? I have a brother-in-law who resembles Quagmire. Even kinda acts like him, too.

[SpitfireIX]

Here is Dylan saying, it cost $200-$250K to make the film.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=19250&view=findpost&p=14696716

I think the investors never get their money back. And Dylan said 10% of the profits will go to first responders. I guess they get nothing either.

Some calculations:

250 000 / 19,95 = 12 531. They would have to sell 12 531 DVD's to pay back their investors and get even.

250 000 / 6,95 = 35 971. They would have to sell 35 971 live streams to pay back their investors and get even.

Until then, no profits, no donations.


You're assuming they don't have any costs to produce and distribute the DVDs. In fact, they have to buy blank DVDs, burn them, label them, and package them. So the actual contribution margin for each DVD sale is likely to be closer to what they are charging for the streaming download (though even for that they have to pay for the bandwidth).

[Wildy]

He also forgot to include the really expensive version of the DVD, the one that you get with that US$250 donation. (at least I think it was 250...)

[CHF]

I hope LCFC loses so much money that Dylan and Alex are forced into prostitution in order to pay their debts.

[Shrinker]

I hope LCFC loses so much money that Dylan and Alex are forced into prostitution in order to pay their debts.

I think they'd make a loss at that enterprise too. :boggled:

[Good Lt]

Eww. Just eww.

[realitybites]

I just gotta get a kick out of how much Dylan et al have supposedly put into this, the 4th version of the same film he's been parroting for years.

$250,000???

Chasing Amy cost that much to make (http://http://the-numbers.com/movies/records/allbudgets.php).

Swingers cost $200,000.

Those films had some up and coming stars to pay for as well. You want documentaries?

Michael Moore's Roger & Me cost under $150,000.

Supersize Me, $65,000.

I cannot help but think that Mr. Avery's numbers might be a tad bloated.

[Good Lt]

Well, everything else these losers have ever claimed has been a tad...bloated.

Right in form. :)

[Shrinker]

I just gotta get a kick out of how much Dylan et al have supposedly put into this, the 4th version of the same film he's been parroting for years.

$250,000???

Chasing Amy cost that much to make (http://http://the-numbers.com/movies/records/allbudgets.php).

Swingers cost $200,000.

Those films had some up and coming stars to pay for as well. You want documentaries?

Michael Moore's Roger & Me cost under $150,000.

Supersize Me, $65,000.

I cannot help but think that Mr. Avery's numbers might be a tad bloated.

According to this (http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/loose-change-final-cut-%E2%80%93-uk-premier/1657/) 'article' Tim Sparke is claiming a budget of almost a million dollars. The discrepancy may be something to do with rights for copyrighted material. The Avery Gang may be paying rights to use the material in the US, and Sparke and co may be paying the rights for the worldwide distributions. That's pure speculation though.

As for this being an inflated budget, bear in mind that their 'budget' probably includes living costs for the three idiots and whoever their hangers-on are, for about two years. Funny that, CGI aside, the small segments I've seen look like they've been thrown together over a weekend. Typos in the credits? Bad sound? No voiceover artist? These guys have been goofing off the whole time...

[AMTMAN]

Guess the LC folks forgot to take into account that as soon as the first DVD hit the streets it would be all over the net. Why pay when you can get a boot leg copy for free or watch it online? Besides, the truther crowd does not seem to be the paying type.

[Unsecured Coins]

I just realized something. This thought rushed over me me like I was going 90 miles an hour down a road with an assload of raisin bran and then hitting a speed bump.

Instead of asking how much money he's made we should have been asking how much he has lost

[geni]

Guess the LC folks forgot to take into account that as soon as the first DVD hit the streets it would be all over the net. Why pay when you can get a boot leg copy for free or watch it online? Besides, the truther crowd does not seem to be the paying type.

Enough DMCA notices will keep it to torrents only which should mean there is some marker for the streaming downloads and phyiscal DVDs do appear to have value for some people.

[jhunter1163]

I seriously doubt that LTW will ever make money off this. Dylan waited too long to strike; the iron cooled and many, if not most, of his Twoofy adherents have moved on. The hard core will make him a few bucks, but I doubt his investors (A. Jones) will get much of their money back.

[JamesB]

The LTW crew has proven their dedication to this cause, and next time you're in Starbucks paying $4.00 for a lousy corporate coffee, remember you're over 1/2 way to the $7 you need to help some great Americans spread the word and change the world.

That's convinced me. I am heading for Starbucks.

[Thunder]

The Truthers are getting fleeced. And they dont see it. Such fools.

[1337m4n]

Apparently LC:FC is v1 'Writen by Dylan Avery'. Doesn't that just say it all? :D

Shouldn't a "FINAL Cut" have gone through...what's the word the humans use for it...proofreading?

[realitybites]

According to this (http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/loose-change-final-cut-%E2%80%93-uk-premier/1657/) 'article' Tim Sparke is claiming a budget of almost a million dollars. The discrepancy may be something to do with rights for copyrighted material. The Avery Gang may be paying rights to use the material in the US, and Sparke and co may be paying the rights for the worldwide distributions. That's pure speculation though.

As for this being an inflated budget, bear in mind that their 'budget' probably includes living costs for the three idiots and whoever their hangers-on are, for about two years. Funny that, CGI aside, the small segments I've seen look like they've been thrown together over a weekend. Typos in the credits? Bad sound? No voiceover artist? These guys have been goofing off the whole time...

I'm sure there are things that are factoring into this budget that one wouldn't normally associate with typical film-making. I have a feeling that's why they are now hard pressed to recoup that money. If the money the "investors" of the film gave ended up going to support LTW's rent/food/etc., I can imagine they'd be pretty fired up to get that back. Now that the film is not hitting the 3000 theaters promised, that could prove to be a difficult task.

That's what I find so humorous about the whole situation. From what I've heard (I've yet to see the film, nor do I plan to), it's a lot of recycled footage, half-assed voice-overs, and slick editing. That it would even get funded in the first place just shows the delusional mind-set of those willing to "give all" to this movement. I have no sympathy for anyone involved. And should they decide to hand out free copies at the next anniversary, I will gladly take as many as possible to use them as back-up coasters.

If Avery is claiming it took $250k to make this movie and that is actually true, the boy's gonna have a damn hard time breaking into Hollywood. Perhaps his being rejected from film school could be seen as a blessing had he used that spare time looking into how to manage one's finances.

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

The Truthers are getting fleeced. And they dont see it. Such fools.
Quite the contrary actually....

Many of us do see it. Many of us ("truthers") have become painfully aware that the so called "leaders" of the "truth" movement are exploiting not only the victims and their families of 9/11 but each and every one of us along the way.

Dylan Avery may be the perfect illustration of this exploitation, but he is certainly not the only example. It is an embarrassment and has led many of us to dissociate from the larger group due to the corrupt faction within.

[jhunter1163]

Just FYI, it's still easily found on Google Video.. they're putting it back up as fast as it's getting taken down I guess.

[Shrinker]

That's what I find so humorous about the whole situation. From what I've heard (I've yet to see the film, nor do I plan to), it's a lot of recycled footage, half-assed voice-overs, and slick editing. That it would even get funded in the first place just shows the delusional mind-set of those willing to "give all" to this movement. I have no sympathy for anyone involved. And should they decide to hand out free copies at the next anniversary, I will gladly take as many as possible to use them as back-up coasters.

If Avery is claiming it took $250k to make this movie and that is actually true, the boy's gonna have a damn hard time breaking into Hollywood. Perhaps his being rejected from film school could be seen as a blessing had he used that spare time looking into how to manage one's finances.

Agreed on all points except the slick editing part. I'd be interested to read 8den's opinion but from the segment of prologue that I watched, it's anything but slick. A slick editor would have crafted a more powerful/captivating opening than footage of a bunch of blackshirted dweebs gangling self-consciously through the streets of NYC. It's uncool, to say the least, and was IMO so hopelessly misjudged that it allayed all my fears that Avery might actually have learned something about filmmaking over the last couple of years. I didn't bother to watch the rest. Maybe later.

[8den]

Agreed on all points except the slick editing part. I'd be interested to read 8den's opinion but from the segment of prologue that I watched, it's anything but slick.r.

I've just wrapped principal photography on the movie I'm on, and have the inlaws with me this weekend. I'll torrent it on Monday and get back to you!

[jhunter1163]

I've just wrapped principal photography on the movie I'm on, and have the inlaws with me this weekend. I'll torrent it on Monday and get back to you!

Check Google Video before you torrent it, still seems to be up there. Although, to be honest, I do have to say it's two hours of my life I wish I had back.

[realitybites]

Agreed on all points except the slick editing part. I'd be interested to read 8den's opinion but from the segment of prologue that I watched, it's anything but slick. A slick editor would have crafted a more powerful/captivating opening than footage of a bunch of blackshirted dweebs gangling self-consciously through the streets of NYC. It's uncool, to say the least, and was IMO so hopelessly misjudged that it allayed all my fears that Avery might actually have learned something about filmmaking over the last couple of years. I didn't bother to watch the rest. Maybe later.

The definition of "slick" in my head when I typed that was more along the lines of "crap". I never once meant to imply Avery had an iota of talent when it came to film-making.

[jhunter1163]

Dylan was suffering from what I propose to call "Pentaconstipation"; taking a very, very long time to put out a crappy video (a la Pentacon Researchers Edition).

[AMTMAN]

Quite the contrary actually....

Many of us do see it. Many of us ("truthers") have become painfully aware that the so called "leaders" of the "truth" movement are exploiting not only the victims and their families of 9/11 but each and every one of us along the way.

Dylan Avery may be the perfect illustration of this exploitation, but he is certainly not the only example. It is an embarrassment and has led many of us to dissociate from the larger group due to the corrupt faction within.

There seems to be quite a long list of those exploiting 9-11 on the truther side.

[Good Lt]

Many of us do see it. Many of us ("truthers") have become painfully aware that the so called "leaders" of the "truth" movement are exploiting not only the victims and their families of 9/11 but each and every one of us along the way.

Given this, what else have chumps like the LC crew and their minions been wrong about?

Perhaps EVERYTHING they've ever said or claimed about 9-11?

Nah. Couldn't be.

And you Troofers, the self-styled independent thinkers, can't seem to think independently of the LC crew or of the greater Troof movement and discern what happened on 9-11 for yourselves?

[Gazpacho]

It will be free as soon as our investors have their money back.
I love the thought of the investors wincing when they find out that Dylan has said this, as his naivete hits them right in the pocket.

[Bell]

The definition of "slick" in my head when I typed that was more along the lines of "crap". I never once meant to imply Avery had an iota of talent when it came to film-making.

One more reason the NWO needs to put mind control chips in our heads, if only to get us all on the same level of thinking you are on.

[JMarshall]

LTW amd LCFC, the real war profiteers!

[geni]

I love the thought of the investors wincing when they find out that Dylan has said this, as his naivete hits them right in the pocket.

Depends. If they are investors yes if they are "investors" perhaps not.

[chippy]

Didn't these guys see "The Producers"? If their film sucks enough, then they don't have to pay back their backers because they don't expect anything out of the film. That was their approach with the first few Loose Changes, wasn't it?

[JMarshall]

Didn't these guys see "The Producers"? If their film sucks enough, then they don't have to pay back their backers because they don't expect anything out of the film. That was their approach with the first few Loose Changes, wasn't it?

Hmm, I think a premise such as in "The Producers" would fly well above their understanding... Plus even if they can't repay their "investors" (Which if you ask me are merely a figment of their imagination), they are thinking more about the jumping off point this "movie" will give them into the real industry. Remember Hollywood loves crack-pot ideas, and shallow stupid people...

[Good Lt]

Didn't these guys see "The Producers"?

Springtime...for Hitler...:whistling

[CptColumbo]

Springtime...for Hitler...:whistling

"Don't be stupid, be a smarty,
come and join the [Twoofer] Party."

[Good Lt]

Mel Brooks is hilarious.

[boloboffin]

"Don't be stupid, be a smarty,
come and join the [Twoofer] Party."

Ahem.

Avery was just a busboy
What a sad, sad story
Needed a fresh angle to attain
His rightful glory
A spot on the marquee!
Where could that cash be?
He looked around and then he found
The scam for you and me

And now it's...

Springtime for Fetzer and Avery
Loose Change is recut and gay!
We're marching to a gangsta beat
Look out! Here comes the big excrete!

Springtime for Fetzer and Avery
Bushco can just go to [rule10]!
Springtime for Fetzer and Avery
Watch out, Gravy!
We're going on tour!

Springtime for Fetzer and Avery
Winter for FEMA and NIST!

Come on, Truthers!
Go into your dance!

STORMTROOPER "DYLAN":
I was born in Oneonta
I'm gonna take down Negroponte.

STORMTROOPER "ALEX":
Don't believe Ahmed Chalabi
9/11's an Inside Jobby

ALL:
The Master is coming, the Master is coming, the Master is coming!
Heil Fetzer!

FETZER:
Heil myself
Heil to me
I'm the prof
Who's out to revise history
Heil myself
Raise your hand
There's no greater
Philosph'r in the land!
Everything I do, I do for you!

CHORUS:
Yes, you do!

FETZER:
If you're looking for a cause, here's Oswald, too!
Heil myself
Raise your fist
CHORUS:
Jawohl!
FETZER:
Ev'ry sleuther-youther Truther stand and cheer
CHORUS:
Hooray!
Ev'ry sleuther-youther Truther...
FETZER:
Heil myself!
CHORUS:
Ev'ry sleuther-youther Truther...
FETZER:
Heil myself!
CHORUS:
Ev'ry sleuther-youther Truther...
FETZER:
...stand and cheer!

THE GOALPOSTS:
The Master exposed the disaster!
He's got those JREFers on the run
Following that son-of-a-gun!
The Master exposed the disaster!
They can't reject his arguments
His great big lies and little hints
He just don't make a lick of sense
The Master exposed the disaster!

FETZER:
I was just a ph'los'phy prof
Not even thought a pastor
Got a phone call from Building 7
Told me I was Master
Avery was blue
What, oh, what to do?
Got really [rule10]
And mangled NIST
Now Iran's smiling through!

But it wasn't always so easy...
It was 2001. Alex Jones was working the cable access and I...
I was pimping JFK. And then I got my big break.
Somebody knocked down the Twin Towers. And, would you believe it?
They made me the Go-To Guy. The Go-To Guy!

It ain't no myst'ry
If it's politics or hist'ry
The thing you gotta know:
You can change it as you go!
Heil myself
Watch my show
I'm the Truther Ethel Merman
Dontcha know
We are harrassing bigshots
The new world order is here
Make a great big Pile
Ev'ryone sieg heil to me
Wonderful me!
And now it's...
CHORUS:
Springtime for Fetzer and Avery
YouTube's the new groove today


FETZER:
Springtime!
YouTube!
CHORUS MEN:
We're all rolling in hay again
CHORUS:
Charlie's looking our way again

FETZER & CHORUS:
Springtime for Fetzer and Avery
Loose Change is recut once more
Springtime for Fetzer and Avery
FETZER:
Means that...
CHORUS:
Soon we'll be going...
FETZER:
We've got to be going...
CHORUS:
You know we'll be going....
FETZER:
You bet we'll be going...
FETZER & CHORUS:
You know we'll be going to FIND A REAL JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FETZER:
Not me, buddy, I'm retired.

[Hokulele]

Bravo! Encore!

[Good Lt]

:bigclap

[jhunter1163]

Nominated with extreme prejudice!

[slingblade]

Nominated with extreme prejudice!

You might want to go edit that nom, since all that showed up was "ahem."

And you made no comment, so Tricky will likely throw it out as accidental....

:o

[jhunter1163]

My quote-fu is weak, but I did add a comment so that people would click on the arrow thingy and bask in the glory that is "Springtime for Fetzer".

[LashL]

Ahem.

Excellent.

Have you added this little treasure to the 9/11: The Musical (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=63415) thread? I think it has an excellent shot at making the A side of the album... ;)

[Lurker]

As for this being an inflated budget, bear in mind that their 'budget' probably includes living costs for the three idiots and whoever their hangers-on are, for about two years. Funny that, CGI aside, the small segments I've seen look like they've been thrown together over a weekend. Typos in the credits? Bad sound? No voiceover artist? These guys have been goofing off the whole time...

My thoughts exactly. The "costs" include their "salaries". Frankly, I think they hardly put any work into FC until they heard too many complaints on the forum and decided they had to get it done or lose out. Kind of like the college student that never turns in his semester project until he realizes his "Incomplete" is about to turn into an "F" and he finally throws enough crap together to salvage a "D" in the course.