I am not Psychic

[Aeia]

Hello everyone! I once said if I would give you an update so here I am!

Well,
Last we spoke I'd guessed 5 months from the approximate date of my thing, maybe August, I cant remember anymore for my job to go under. Well it actually happened 5 months from when I started. No excuse I say, because I felt it was 5 months from when I made that prediction. Also we had increased sales twofold and were incredibly busy. But still, the company shut down our department and then shut down the office.

So there you have it, I am a believer. In the nonpsychic.
Now Im a Graphic Designer and I am loving it. So I'm a skeptic Graphic Designer.

See you again.

[Aeia]

Sorry I meant to say that happened about a month ago.:);)

[Beth]

Aeia - Thanks for providing the update.

[Big Les]

You've lost me...

[Apology]

I deeply appreciate your honesty. I congratulate you on your willingness to test your hypothesis rather than just declare "It's True!" This is a rare quality in a person.

[Locknar]

I deeply appreciate your honesty. I congratulate you on your willingness to test your hypothesis rather than just declare "It's True!" This is a rare quality in a person.
Nicely said, and I second it.... I'll add, glad things are going well & thanks for the update :)

As you might guess, lots of folks come on here, make claims, and then go "poof into the ether" never to be heard from again. It speaks volumes that you took the time to come back to update folks....well done.

[mikeyx]

Im not psychic either but I knew you would say that. Historian's 4th dimensional roommates told me..

[-Fran-]

Thanks for the update! Hope you stick around!

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I am not Psychic

Me neither. But then again, I don't think any of use are. :crowded:

[JoeTheJuggler]

You've lost me...

Aiea's post is a follow up to this thread: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3014024

I'm not sure why it wasn't made in that thread.

I also appreciate your honesty, Aeia, but I still don't understand a few things:

1) What led you to think you had the ability to predict future events in the first place?

2) If you really believed (previously) that you had these powers, how could you be so lackluster about them? If it were true, it would mean a complete overhauling of several fields of science, and probably change everything about our human experience.

3) Why do you require 100% success to believe in any psychic skills? (There are plenty of other real and demonstrable skills that aren't successful 100% of the time.)

Again, I'm happy you stuck to your commitment. (I'd be saddened to see you pull a ferj and say you still believed in your psychic powers despite ANY proof to the contrary.)

Do you still believe you have any psychic powers? That is, are you only rejecting precognition, or do you reject any other psychic claims? (I ask this because, IIRC, some of the anecdotes you told didn't really involve precognition or predictions of future events.)

[Aeia]

I think I explained all of that quite clearly in my first post. I said if I was ever wrong I would not call it psychic abilities, just a damn good guess. You require 100% accuracy because otherwise, all it is is a guess gone right. A psychic would be pulling it 'from the universe' and therefore could not be wrong.

Lackluster??
I am a person of logic. If I am proven right innumerable times, I believe it, if I am proven wrong, I believe it. If I see a lightbulb turning on I'll believe lightbulbs can turn on but if I live my life never able to make a lightbulb turn on I will not believe that the lightbulb can turn on, logically deducing that from the experiments I will have done. Then one day, if someone turns a lightbulb on Ill say "Oh, cool" and believe a lightbulb can turn on.

[Garrette]

I can't accept this.

When you come on this forum, Aeia, you have to be prepared to back up your claims. The claim "I am not psychic" is a strong and definitive one requiring strong, definitive evidence.

I suggest you design a protocol to demonstrate your non-psychicness and submit it for the million dollar challenge.

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[JoeTheJuggler]

I think I explained all of that quite clearly in my first post. I said if I was ever wrong I would not call it psychic abilities, just a damn good guess. You require 100% accuracy because otherwise, all it is is a guess gone right. A psychic would be pulling it 'from the universe' and therefore could not be wrong.


So do you believe other people have psychic powers?

[Aeia]

I can't accept this.

When you come on this forum, Aeia, you have to be prepared to back up your claims. The claim "I am not psychic" is a strong and definitive one requiring strong, definitive evidence.

I suggest you design a protocol to demonstrate your non-psychicness and submit it for the million dollar challenge.

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Clearly you werent around when the original thread was made.

[Aeia]

So do you believe other people have psychic powers?

If so I have yet to meet them.

[JoeEllison]

That's pretty cool!

[Garrette]

Clearly you werent around when the original thread was made.Or possibly you should read the small print in the post to which you are replying?

[-Fran-]

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Seems it really did need one :)

[Locknar]

Seems it really did need one :)
Brick would agree...

[JoeTheJuggler]

I think I explained all of that quite clearly in my first post.

No you didn't. You made the assertion, but you never gave any good reason why you require perfection and nothing less.


I said if I was ever wrong I would not call it psychic abilities, just a damn good guess. You require 100% accuracy because otherwise, all it is is a guess gone right. A psychic would be pulling it 'from the universe' and therefore could not be wrong.
You could easily rule out guessing at a high confidence level with less than 100% accuracy.


Lackluster??

Yes. After you made the egregious claim of psychic abilities, you got busy with other things. Doesn't sound like the behavior of someone who really believed in something that would revolutionize several fields of science if it were true.


I am a person of logic. If I am proven right innumerable times, I believe it, if I am proven wrong, I believe it. If I see a lightbulb turning on I'll believe lightbulbs can turn on but if I live my life never able to make a lightbulb turn on I will not believe that the lightbulb can turn on, logically deducing that from the experiments I will have done. Then one day, if someone turns a lightbulb on Ill say "Oh, cool" and believe a lightbulb can turn on.
Again, this doesn't explain your all-or-nothing requirement. There are scientific methods for ruling out chance (with a very high degree of confidence) for things that don't happen or fail to happen 100% of the time.

Again, what made you think you had psychic powers to begin with? You rejected the explanations that we provided on the other thread (retrofitting, confirmation bias, etc.). Since you now refute the claim, do you think maybe our explanations were right?

When you thought you had psychic powers, did it feel like you were just guessing or saying whatever popped into your head?

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If so I have yet to meet them.
Does that mean you don't believe that others have psychic powers?

[-Fran-]

Brick would agree...

Brick is a nice man! :) You are too, Locknar ;)

[Ashles]

Skeptical graphic designers rule.

I know - I am one. (Sorta)

[Garrette]

Skeptical graphic designers rule.

I know - I am one. (Sorta)You're a rule?

[JoeTheJuggler]

You're a rule?
No, but he or she no doubt uses one when designing skeptical graphics. ;)