The Death Star is back in the galaxy

[Jedi Knight]

Just admit that you missed me. (you don't have to---I already know that you all do lol). :)

JK

[Ed]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Just admit that you missed me. (you don't have to---I already know that you all do lol). :)

JK

I did. You would not believe what the feminazis have been up to:D

So would you, you know, Ann Coulter, like, ummmm, do her?

That poll is the reason you came back, admit it.:D

[LuxFerum]

I dont


wait


gp banned jk back:rolleyes:

[Ladewig]

How do we know you are the real Jedi Knight? Let's hear you opine on something.

[clk]

My theory on JK:
I think JK schedules vacations a few times a year, and he pulls one of his "I'm leaving because nobody likes me" acts right before his vacation. Then, when people ask him not to leave, he rolls around in the compliments and sympathy before finally leaving for the vacation. When he comes back, he can't resist the forum so he just makes a lame excuse for coming back.
So where did you go on vacation, JK?
Hawaii?

[Tony]

Welcome back. :) :cool:

[demon]

clk wrote:
"So where did you go on vacation, JK?
Hawaii?"

It was the closest approach of Mars for 60,000 years remember? You do the math;)

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Ed


I did. You would not believe what the feminazis have been up to:D

So would you, you know, Ann Coulter, like, ummmm, do her?

That poll is the reason you came back, admit it.:D

I like Ann Coulter. She is the sexiest conservative there is!

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Ladewig
How do we know you are the real Jedi Knight? Let's hear you opine on something.

Want to hear my opinion on Matriarchal Totalitarianism? lol.

It's me. Hal knows me. You don't think Hal would give Jedi's account info to just anyone, do you? :eek:

Hal and I have talked via e-mail before I took the break so he knows it is me. Linda has my phone # too.

So what has been going on with all of you folks lately?

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight



So what has been going on with all of you folks lately?

JK

First tell us where you went on your vacation.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by clk


First tell us where you went on your vacation.

I think its obivous. He played "Star Wars Galaxies" nonstop for two months trying to unlock the force sensitive slot.

[Dancing David]

Wewlcome back , Jedi.

ShaneK can spin faster than you , he just doesn't support the Matriarchy the way you do.

[Ed]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I like Ann Coulter. She is the sexiest conservative there is!

JK

Careful there, buffy. You might want to say "she is a sexy conservative. Saying "most" leaves you open to formadable disagreement.

Hey, don't you owe me a hug? That's why you left, isn't it?

Comeon you big galoot, give us a hug.:D

[Ed]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight



So what has been going on with all of you folks lately?

JK

Usual. Real nutsie stuff from Malachi-x (I forgot his number:confused: ) He hates it that people make more money than him.

AUP and others stomping Jews. A small diatribe by me on arabs.

Another strange psychic detective deal. Really an odd one.

Europeans wrapping their heads around a dead politition.

People laughing at GWB and the lack of WMD's

Pretty much same old, same old.

And with you?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Ed


Usual. Real nutsie stuff from Malachi-x (I forgot his number:confused: ) He hates it that people make more money than him.

AUP and others stomping Jews. A small diatribe by me on arabs.

Another strange psychic detective deal. Really an odd one.

Europeans wrapping their heads around a dead politition.

People laughing at GWB and the lack of WMD's

Pretty much same old, same old.

And with you?

lol, well those topics are the fun ones.

JK

[Crossbow]

Yalel and Jedi Knight back in the same week.

The circut is now complete.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Ed
Comeon you big galoot, give us a hug.:D

:jedi:

lol

JK

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by clk
My theory on JK:
I think JK schedules vacations a few times a year, and he pulls one of his "I'm leaving because nobody likes me" acts right before his vacation. Then, when people ask him not to leave, he rolls around in the compliments and sympathy before finally leaving for the vacation. When he comes back, he can't resist the forum so he just makes a lame excuse for coming back.
So where did you go on vacation, JK?
Hawaii?

Well, he's looking fitter than ever and he has a nice tan.

As for the JREF drinking game, I think I'm off my face at the moment.

[DialecticMaterialist]

This really sux. The spam is beggining already. I mean look at his extremist statements "all terrorists must hang"...very creative. And the travesty of him calling himself a "Philosopher". If they were given unlimited power to create someone so ridiculously right, so as to make the war on terror look like buffoonery, the anti-war bloc could do no better then Jedi Knight. His posts alone almost make me want to make me go out and protest.

[DrChinese]

Welcome back, my friend, to the show that never ends...

[UserGoogol]

Yeah. Welcome back Mr. Jedi. I stopped my occasionally-posting mostly-lurking a while ago and I returned recently when someone on Slashdot said the word "Randi," and I was wondering where everyone's favorite conservative was.

I don't remember if this is a Franko or Jedi reference, but let us all eat our tacoes to give our sacred respect to this most signifigant return.

[Ed]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


:jedi:

lol

JK

Ahhhhh.....Rough love. Ok, I consider your debt paid.:D

[subgenius]

Originally posted by clk
My theory on JK:
I think JK schedules vacations a few times a year, and he pulls one of his "I'm leaving because nobody likes me" acts right before his vacation. Then, when people ask him not to leave, he rolls around in the compliments and sympathy before finally leaving for the vacation. When he comes back, he can't resist the forum so he just makes a lame excuse for coming back.
So where did you go on vacation, JK?
Hawaii?
He's been on his gay honeymoon in Massachusetts.

[jj]

Is it force, or farce?
Jedi Knight, you decide now.
I do not much care.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Just admit that you missed me. (you don't have to---I already know that you all do lol). :)

JK
Welcome back!

Smiles :)!

[Cleopatra]

Hi Jedi

I am glad to see you back. I enjoy your honesty and your sense of humor, I think that you have tones of sense of humor that most people just can't see.

This is the reason that Unique and you are among my favorite posters of the forum. Controversial, bright and humorous in your own way.

I want to bring to your attention though that there are many people here that have rised an issue regarding the scene you made when you left.

I seriously enjoy our debates especially those that you call me names ( femi-nazi , harlot etc ) but as long as you don't attempt to address the comments of people that got upset with your return our interaction goes to the category " guilty pleasures" .

I like to enjoy my "guilty pleasures" in the privacy of my house( don't take this an an invitation to come to Greece :p ) and not in an open , public forum so, I am asking you to post a comment regarding your previous behaviour. :)

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Hi Jedi


This is the reason that Unique and you are among my favorite posters of the forum. Controversial, bright and humorous in your own way.



Unique and Jedi. Have I sunk so low?

[Cleopatra]

I knew that you'd say that :)

I have just called you humorous, controversial and bright!

Hey!!! These are reasons for me to get married to somebody :)

[clk]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Hi Jedi

I am glad to see you back. I enjoy your honesty and your sense of humor, I think that you have tones of sense of humor that most people just can't see.
(bold mine)

Honesty??? :roll: :roll: :roll:
You mean that never admitting he's wrong makes him honest?
Have you seen the "gravity" thread where he argues that mass doesn't create a gravitational force?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by clk

(bold mine)

Honesty??? :roll: :roll: :roll:
You mean that never admitting he's wrong makes him honest?
Have you seen the "gravity" thread where he argues that mass doesn't create a gravitational force?

I was correct in the gravity debate. You have only taken one part of what I said and twisted it into your athiest Jihadi agenda.

What I said was that if you roll a marble down one lane of a four lane highway, it would not affect a marble rolled down a lane on the opposite end of a highway. It can't because it can't overcome the mass of the earth. The marbles have no gravitational impact on each other whatsoever.

JK

[peptoabysmal]

Originally posted by Crossbow
Yalel and Jedi Knight back in the same week.

The circut is now complete.

Isn't that one of the seals that kicks off Armageddon?

Jedi, you know that you and I agree on many things, however If you don't stop playing drama queen, I will lose what respect I have left for you.

[Ed]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I was correct in the gravity debate. You have only taken one part of what I said and twisted it into your athiest Jihadi agenda.

What I said was that if you roll a marble down one lane of a four lane highway, it would not affect a marble rolled down a lane on the opposite end of a highway. It can't because it can't overcome the mass of the earth. The marbles have no gravitational impact on each other whatsoever.

JK

Whoopsie. Fraid not.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by peptoabysmal


Isn't that one of the seals that kicks off Armageddon?

Jedi, you know that you and I agree on many things, however If you don't stop playing drama queen, I will lose what respect I have left for you.

Pepto, the problem is with atheist Jihadi.

JK

[peptoabysmal]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Pepto, the problem is with atheist Jihadi.

JK

LOL!

An atheist holy war, this I gotta hear about!

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


The marbles have no gravitational impact on each other whatsoever.

JK


:roll: :roll:
Wrong again. They will have a very very small impact on each other.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by peptoabysmal


LOL!

An atheist holy war, this I gotta hear about!

lol, you will be hearing about it. Atheist Jihad is a new term I created recently, and well, you know, I had to bring up considering some of its adherents live here on the forum lol.

You wouldn't believe some of the other new scientific terms I created.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by clk
:roll: :roll:
Wrong again. They will have a very very small impact on each other.

Bust me out a formula and prove it.

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Bust me out a formula and prove it.

JK

OK. Here's Newton's law of universal gravitation:

Fg = G* ((m1*m2)/(r^2))

where Fg is the gravitational force, G is the gravitational constant, m1 is mass 1 (marble 1), m2 is mass 2 (marble 2), and r is the distance from mass 1 to mass 2. I gave you your formula, now be a man and admit you were wrong.

[subgenius]

"...be a man and admit you were wrong"

Same old same old. Deja vu all over again.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by clk


OK. Here's Newton's law of universal gravitation:

Fg = G* ((m1*m2)/(r^2))

where Fg is the gravitational force, G is the gravitational constant, m1 is mass 1 (marble 1), m2 is mass 2 (marble 2), and r is the distance from mass 1 to mass 2. I gave you your formula, now be a man and admit you were wrong.

You are the one claiming I am wrong. Work the formula out.

JK

[American]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight

You are the one claiming I am wrong. Work the formula out.

JK


WELCOME BACK, FRIEND!!! :cool:

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by American



WELCOME BACK, FRIEND!!! :cool:

It is good to be back ;)

JK

[Ed]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


You are the one claiming I am wrong. Work the formula out.

JK

JK. For any pair of masses, at any distance Fg>0.

Come on, this is basic math. Though asserting it's falsity is sorta amusing, a little Luci-ish.

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


You are the one claiming I am wrong. Work the formula out.

JK

Stalling, huh? Face it, you're wrong, and I'm right. Just admit it and get it over with.

Let's say the mass of each marble is .1 kg, and they are separated by .2 meters.

Fg = (6.67 x 10^-11 (N*m^2/kg^2))*(((.1 kg)(.1 kg))/(.2 m)^2)

Fg = 1.6675 x 10^-11 N

There you go, big boy, there is the graviational force. Notice that it does not equal to zero :roll: :roll: :roll:
Now admit you're wrong.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by clk


Stalling, huh? Face it, you're wrong, and I'm right. Just admit it and get it over with.

Let's say the mass of each marble is .1 kg, and they are separated by .2 meters.

Fg = (6.67 x 10^-11 (N*m^2/kg^2))*(((.1 kg)(.1 kg))/(.2 m)^2)

Fg = 1.6675 x 10^-11 N

There you go, big boy, there is the graviational force. Notice that it does not equal to zero :roll: :roll: :roll:
Now admit you're wrong.

I am not wrong. I will work out the problem the way it really is later to prove it.

JK

[Mendor]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I am not wrong. I will work out the problem the way it really is later to prove it.How are you going to do that?

JK, you are wrong. Any two bodies have a force of gravitational attraction between them.

The presence or absence of the Earth has nothing to do with it; it just makes the force between them negligible compared to the force the Earth is exerting on the masses. Negligible does not mean the same as non-existant, as you seem to think.

The masses could be measured in femtograms and the distance between them in astronomical units, and the force would still be there. It would be very very very very very (*10^-74) small, to be sure, but it would be there.

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I am not wrong. I will work out the problem the way it really is later to prove it.

JK

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Oh, man, this is going to be good! You said you would work it out "the way it really is". Are you saying I worked it out wrong, and that the answer is supposed to be zero? Please, please show me the proper way to evaluate the problem!
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Cleopatra]

I have a suggestion.

As long as Jedi Knight doesn't post an apology to those who offended during his last exodus, none shall respond to his posts.

This is what I intend to do.

[Crossbow]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I am not wrong. I will work out the problem the way it really is later to prove it.

JK

Same old JK!

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Mendor
It would be very very very very very (*10^-74) small, to be sure, but it would be there.

Not enough to affect the mass of either marble, huh. That is what I have been saying. I am not dismissing the gravitational force each marble mass produces. I know it exists. That is not what I have been talking about.

Don't fall into the atheist Jihadi spin trap that CLK is on. This topic started a year ago lol and he still hasn't gotten over the fact that I am right. That is why he brought it up again.

JK

[KelvinG]

Welcome back Jedi.
I look forward to your next mental breakdown where you explode in anger and yet again leave the forum for good, only to later cowardly crawl back to spew your hate and ignorance.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by clk


:roll: :roll: :roll:
Oh, man, this is going to be good! You said you would work it out "the way it really is". Are you saying I worked it out wrong, and that the answer is supposed to be zero? Please, please show me the proper way to evaluate the problem!
:roll: :roll: :roll:

No, you said I said it was zero. I have been saying that the force isn't enough to affect the mass of the marbles on the opposite side of the highway to alter their paths.

You atheist Jihadi tricks simply won't work CLK. Give it up. I am right and you know it. Your Sylvia tricks just don't work.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by KelvinG
Welcome back Jedi.
I look forward to your next mental breakdown where you explode in anger and yet again leave the forum for good, only to later cowardly crawl back to spew your hate and ignorance.

The only hate on this forum is from the atheist Jihadis operating here. I learned that much. I am not a hateful person. If I say something that offends you, it is probably true. (reading this Cleopatra?)

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
I have a suggestion.

As long as Jedi Knight doesn't post an apology to those who offended during his last exodus, none shall respond to his posts.

This is what I intend to do.

Jesus Christ himself will return to Earth before I ever apologize to you, hon. I take great pleasure in knowing that from now on you will never reply to one of my posts ever again. The 'appeal to popularity logic fallacy' you wrote in your post there is mutual, believe me.

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


No, you said I said it was zero. I have been saying that the force isn't enough to affect the mass of the marbles on the opposite side of the highway to alter their paths.


That's not what you said a few posts ago:


The marbles have no gravitational impact on each other whatsoever.


"no gravitational impact" means zero. Tell me JK, do you know what numbers are? Please tell me how 1.6675 x 10^-11
is equal to zero, as you claimed. Oh, and please re-work the problem the correct way, as you said you would.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Jesus Christ himself will return to Earth before I ever apologize to you, hon. I take great pleasure in knowing that from now on you will never reply to one of my posts ever again. The 'appeal to popularity logic fallacy' you wrote in your post there is mutual, believe me.

JK

I didn't ask you to apologize to me, what are you talking about?

Be a man for a change!

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Jesus Christ himself will return to Earth before I ever apologize to you, hon. I take great pleasure in knowing that from now on you will never reply to one of my posts ever again. The 'appeal to popularity logic fallacy' you wrote in your post there is mutual, believe me.

JK

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Man, I haven't had this much fun on the internet in years! Cleopatra, you are very nice, but I'm afraid you were a bit naive. JK will NEVER apologize and NEVER admit that he is wrong. But don't worry, it is easy to use this against him and make a fool out of him, as I just did with the gravity topic above.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by clk


That's not what you said a few posts ago:



"no gravitational impact" means zero. Tell me JK, do you know what numbers are? Please tell me how 1.6675 x 10^-11
is equal to zero, as you claimed. Oh, and please re-work the problem the correct way, as you said you would.
:roll: :roll: :roll: [/B]

I didn't say they didn't have 'gravity', hero, I said they couldn't impact the movement of each other. That is what makes you so dishonest in a debate (an atheist Jihadi trait perhaps?). You twisted what I said just to start trouble but I have you figured out, Sylvia.

You should take Cleopatra's advice and not talk to me any more too lol.

JK

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by clk


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Man, I haven't had this much fun on the internet in years! Cleopatra, you are very nice, but I'm afraid you were a bit naive. JK will NEVER apologize and NEVER admit that he is wrong. But don't worry, it is easy to use this against him and make a fool out of him, as I just did with the gravity topic above.

No I am not nice and Jedi doesn't bother me at all, on the contrary I like him but I can't ignore that some of the members here feel insulted by his return.

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


.

You should take Cleopatra's advice and not talk to me any more too lol.

JK

You should take my advice and start behaving like a man for a change.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
I didn't ask you to apologize to me, what are you talking about?

Not the brightest mushroom in the cave are you?

As long as Jedi Knight doesn't post an apology to those who offended during his last exodus, none shall respond to his posts.

Why did you respond to my posts?

Be a man for a change!

I am a heterosexual. Of course I am a man.

JK

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight

I am a heterosexual. Of course I am a man.

JK [/B]

You are a male. This doesn't make you a man. I am sorry.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Cleopatra


No I am not nice and Jedi doesn't bother me at all, on the contrary I like him but I can't ignore that some of the members here feel insulted by his return.

I feel insulted by atheist Jihadis so it looks like we are all one big happy family. You don't see me whining about atheist Jihadi-speak on the forum, do you?

I think you need to start acting like a lady, Cleo. (a lady from the old days, not the current matriarchal totalitarian mindset of radical feminism).

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
I am sorry.

That's a start. I accept your apology. ;)

JK

[Mendor]

JK, you say:I am not dismissing the gravitational force each marble mass produces. I know it exists.But then you say:I said they couldn't impact the movement of each other.If the two marbles are exerting a force on each other - however small that force is - they are, by definition, impacting each other's movement. The impact is very, very small but it is there.

[Tricky]

Welcome back Jedi. Would you like to apologize for some of the vulgar things you said before you went postal on us, or shall I call up the thread where you show approval for people who murder women?

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I didn't say they didn't have 'gravity', hero, I said they couldn't impact the movement of each other.

Guess what, JK? F=ma!!!!!
Wow! That means that the gravitational force will cause an acceleration on the marbles, thus impacting the movement of them. Wrong again!!
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I feel insulted by atheist Jihadis so it looks like we are all one big happy family. You don't see me whining about atheist Jihadi-speak on the forum, do you?

Wait until I see people that disagree with you insulting you on a personal level the way you did.

I think you need to start acting like a lady, Cleo. (a lady from the old days, not the current matriarchal totalitarian mindet of radical feminism).

JK

Someone that has attacked ladies on duty ( Luciana and Denise) cannot persuade me that he is aware of the definition of the term "lady".

Come-on Jedi, surprise them all!!! Post an apology.

[Suddenly]

This is the one I don't get from the infamous "nothing" post.


Gosh, my body, according to Bjorn, creates "gravity". I guess I can fly to Mars and walk around the surface of the planet without a spacesuit!

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I feel insulted by atheist Jihadis so it looks like we are all one big happy family. You don't see me whining about atheist Jihadi-speak on the forum, do you?

I think you need to start acting like a lady, Cleo. (a lady from the old days, not the current matriarchal totalitarian mindset of radical feminism).

JK

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Oh man, I think I'm going to explode from laughing so hard!! Someone shoot me!!

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Mendor
JK, you say:But then you say:If the two marbles are exerting a force on each other - however small that force is - they are, by definition, impacting each other's movement. The impact is very, very small but it is there.

Hey, I am always open to disproving dowsing and other psychic phenomena. Only the Jedi have true force powers.

Tell you what, let's do an experiment. I will roll a marble down a hill on one side of a road and you roll it down the other side and then you tell me when your marble is going to move mine as it rolls. If your marble uses it's 'gravitational force powers' to push mine off the road, you win. (but you have to tell before it happens).

JK

[Suddenly]

Not to mention:

Your body wouldn't be attracted to mine in zero gravity. What BS are you trying to throw around Fool! Our bodies may randomly run across each other if the body fluid eruptions propelled them on the same course after zero gravity death. But we would not create gravity to attract each other.

JK

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by Tricky
Welcome back Jedi. Would you like to apologize for some of the vulgar things you said before you went postal on us, or shall I call up the thread where you show approval for people who murder women?

What Tricky said.

[Cleopatra]

For the moment I won't start a thread in the Moderation Forum about this issue but if you don't post an apology be certain that I will.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Suddenly
Not to mention:



If I take your body and put it where the moon is and I take my body and put it where the sun is and there is nothing but open space between us, are we going to pull each other towards each other?

Nope. Nada.

That doesn't mean we do not have mass, it just means that the mass of our bodies is so small that there is no hope we would ever meet in our drifting through the galaxy.

JK

[Cleopatra]

Post an apology.

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Tell you what, let's do an experiment. I will roll a marble down a hill on one side of a road and you roll it down the other side and then you tell me when your marble is going to move mine as it rolls. If your marble uses it's 'gravitational force powers' to push mine off the road, you win. (but you have to tell before it happens).

JK

Who said that the gravitational impact would be that large, JK? Everyone has been saying that it is very small, but it is still there. YOU are the one saying that the impact is zero. Why don't you show us a formula that says that the gravitational force is zero for small masses, or better yet, show us how force does not equal mass*acceleration.

[Suddenly]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


If I take your body and put it where the moon is and I take my body and put it where the sun is and there is nothing but open space between us, are we going to pull each other towards each other?

Nope. Nada.

That doesn't mean we do not have mass, it just means that the mass of our bodies is so small that there is no hope we would ever meet in our drifting through the galaxy.

JK

Now can you explain what gravity has to do with walking around Mars without a spacesuit?

Gosh, my body, according to Bjorn, creates "gravity". I guess I can fly to Mars and walk around the surface of the planet without a spacesuit!

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


If I take your body and put it where the moon is and I take my body and put it where the sun is and there is nothing but open space between us, are we going to pull each other towards each other?

Nope. Nada.

That doesn't mean we do not have mass, it just means that the mass of our bodies is so small that there is no hope we would ever meet in our drifting through the galaxy.

JK

If there are no other stars or planets in the universe (or if they are extremely far away), then yes, your body and my body will pull towards each other. Even if there are planets or stars around, they will still technically pull towards each other. Every mass in the universe is attracted to every other mass. It's that simple.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
For the moment I won't start a thread in the Moderation Forum about this issue but if you don't post an apology be certain that I will.

Cleo, you are trolling. I am not apologising to you or anyone else on this forum for any debate I have had. I have never asked for nor demanded an apology for any of the venom spewn at me by the atheist Jihadis that post here. Don't be a hypocrite. (But if you have a matriarchal urge then by all means start a thread somewhere about it because I would expect you to. That's a given and fully predictable).

I am not here to argue with you Cleo so get over yourself.

JK

[Suddenly]

A more detailed post by JK explaining physics:

The marbles didn't affect each other. I could roll one marble down one side of the road and it would behave the exact same way as if I rolled one down the other side of the road. The "marbles" obey the laws of physics. They do not create gravity. Gravity governs the marble. Anything with mass obeys gravity. Gravity is created in the universe by stars and the motion of the planets orbiting stars. That is where gravity comes from.

Now, explain to me how my body is going to create gravity so I can go to mars without a space suit and walk on the planet without one.

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Suddenly
A more detailed post by JK explaining physics:



I wonder how he will squirm his way out of that one? JK, are you saying that you can't walk around Mars without a spacesuit? What if you had a simple oxygen supply?

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Cleo, you are trolling. I am not apologising to you or anyone else on this forum for any debate I have had. I have never asked for nor demanded an apology for any of the venom spewn at me by the atheist Jihadis that post here. Don't be a hypocrite. (But if you have a matriarchal urge then by all means start a thread somewhere about it because I would expect you to. That's a given and fully predictable).

I am not here to argue with you Cleo so get over yourself.

JK

You can report me if you think that I am violating the rules.

You have insulted people on a personal level and not only in the context of a debate.

It's a matter of dignity to do that and I think that you owe it to Hal as well who let you return although he knew that this decision would bring an uproar.

If you don't do it Jedi I will rise a big issue in the Moderation forum.

The remarks about my matriarchal urges make me laugh. Partly, you are right you know;when I have to deal with "boys" like you or Lord kenneth in Internet forums my maternal instict awakes and I feel obliged to protect you from yourself :)

Think about it .You owe an apology to this community.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by clk


I wonder how he will squirm his way out of that one? JK, are you saying that you can't walk around Mars without a spacesuit? What if you had a simple oxygen supply?

Your ancestors didn't need space suits to walk around on Mars initially.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Cleopatra


You can report me if you think that I am violating the rules.

You have insulted people on a personal level and not only in the context of a debate.

It's a matter of dignity to do that and I think that you owe it to Hal as well who let you return although he knew that this decision would bring an uproar.

If you don't do it Jedi I will rise a big issue in the Moderation forum.

The remarks about my matriarchal urges make me laugh. Partly, you are right you know;when I have to deal with "boys" like you or Lord kenneth in Internet forums my maternal instict awakes and I feel obliged to protect you from yourself :)

Think about it .You owe an apology to this community.

Cleo, you are stalking me. Why don't you run along and go make your 'I hate Jedi' thread and just STFU, ok? Leave me alone.

JK

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Cleo, you are stalking me. Why don't you run along and go make your 'I hate Jedi' thread and just STFU, ok? Leave me alone.

JK

I am sorry my dear. I don't intend to make your return that easy :)

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight

I have never asked for nor demanded an apology for any of the venom spewn at me by the atheist Jihadis that post here.
Another Jedi lie. You asked me to apologize for saying that you approved of murder (In the 2001 Jedi Nights thread which has since been locked). Then you started spewing filth, then you ran away like the coward you are.

Why don't you at least apologize to Cleopatra and others here. We will respect you more. It would be difficult to respect you less.

[clk]

Come on, guys. You should know that JK would rather shoot himself rather than apologize to anyone.

[Suddenly]

Not to knock this further off topic ... wait there is no topic.

I should have posted this link earlier. It's the infamous gravity thread, for those that haven't read it yet. It is spellbinding reading:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9858&perpage=40&highlight=Gravity&pagenumber=1

(It is a Franko thread that quickly turns into a thread on JK's physics theories.)

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Cleopatra


I am sorry my dear. I don't intend to make your return that easy :)

Cleo, hon, you aren't listening. You have no authority on the forum. Neither do I. I was asked to come back because the forum was boring without my genius intellect.

Sure, the atheist Jihadis (the hard core atheists) don't like me, but there are a lot of people that do like me (including myself lol). I really don't care if you like me or not. This isn't a popularity or beauty contest (but if it were I would win both). I am here to chat just like you, but you hate me. I don't have hate inside of me. That is where you and I differ.

So again, run along hon and go make your "I hate Jedi" thread and add it to the list of "I hate Jedi" threads that have been formed dozens of times over the many months I have debated here.

Then ask me if I care. :D

JK

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by clk
Come on, guys. You should know that JK would rather shoot himself rather than apologize to anyone.

Then maybe he should start considering the option to shoot himself :)

[Mendor]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Hey, I am always open to disproving dowsing and other psychic phenomena. Only the Jedi have true force powers.

Tell you what, let's do an experiment. I will roll a marble down a hill on one side of a road and you roll it down the other side and then you tell me when your marble is going to move mine as it rolls. If your marble uses it's 'gravitational force powers' to push mine off the road, you win. (but you have to tell before it happens).

JK I give up. You don't seem to recognise any difference between something that is very very small, and something that doesn't exist.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Tricky

Another Jedi lie. You asked me to apologize for saying that you approved of murder (In the 2001 Jedi Nights thread which has since been locked). Then you started spewing filth, then you ran away like the coward you are.

Why don't you at least apologize to Cleopatra and others here. We will respect you more. It would be difficult to respect you less.

Yet another atheist Jihadi misconception by you. Tricky, you said I advocated murder, and I didn't demand an apology, I just asked Hal to shut that thread down because it was inappropriate. But look, when it comes to atheist Jihadi operatives like you, I know honesty isn't one of your special traits.

That said, it is good to see you lol. I know you missed me Tricky. Admit it.

JK

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight

Cleo, hon, you aren't listening. You have no authority on the forum. Neither do I. I was asked to come back because the forum was boring without my genius intellect.

Yes indeed, both of us have no authority but you had the nerve to call names two of the moderators while they were only trying to do their job.

You insulted Fool just for disagreeing with you.

Imagine what would you do if you had an authority.



So again, run along hon and go make your "I hate Jedi" thread and add it to the list of "I hate Jedi" threads that have been formed dozens of times over the many months I have debated here.
JK

Come-on Jedi, usually matriarchal totalitarian feminazis like me are not stupid, as you know.

So, you don't really believe that I will start a thread that will contain your name in it,do you?

You have become a problem , cheri, you are not just a syndrom anymore. That means that I don't need to use your name to describe what are you doing here :)

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Yet another atheist Jihadi misconception by you. Tricky, you said I advocated murder, and I didn't demand an apology, I just asked Hal to shut that thread down because it was inappropriate. But look, when it comes to atheist Jihadi operatives like you, I know honesty isn't one of your special traits.

That said, it is good to see you lol. I know you missed me Tricky. Admit it.

JK
Ah but you did ask for an apology. However, asking the thread to be shut down is even more cowardly.

And no, I didn't miss you. There were plenty of trolls here to take your place. I must admit, though, that you make the sport of troll baiting a lot easier.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Tricky

Ah but you did ask for an apology. However, asking the thread to be shut down is even more cowardly.

And no, I didn't miss you. There were plenty of trolls here to take your place. I must admit, though, that you make the sport of troll baiting a lot easier.

You admire me because I possess a genius you have never seen before.

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


You admire me because I possess a genius you have never seen before.

JK

We all admire you, JK. We only consistently prove you wrong because we are actually scared of the socialist matriarchal totalitarian feminazi atheist jihadis, and you are the only person brave enough to stand up to them.

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by clk


We all admire you, JK. We only consistently prove you wrong because we are actually scared of the socialist matriarchal totalitarian feminazi atheist jihadis, and you are the only person brave enough to stand up to them.


http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/laugh.gif

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
You admire me because I possess a genius you have never seen before.

JK
I cannot say it better than you did youself (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=176340&highlight=genius+density#post176340)
Originally posted by Jedi Knight

My density is genius.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
I knew that you'd say that :)

I have just called you humorous, controversial and bright!

Hey!!! These are reasons for me to get married to somebody :)

A gracious offer, but I can see it all now, it will end in tragedy with murder and suicide by an asp.

[Ziggurat]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight

Yet another atheist Jihadi misconception by you.

Is an atheist jihadi anything like a pregnant virgin? :rolleyes:

[The Fool]

Lol....whats the matter Jedi, did you get bored playing with your genitals all alone at your pc?


I'm not sure of Hals motivation for allowing you back in after you came crying to him begging for yet another chance. Maybe he feels sorry for you, maybe he thinks the board is short of human garbage.

Remember this Jedi?

So full of hate, coming from a guy who produces mutant babies. You know, the ones who need to be strapped to ventilators for years because they are born brain-dead.

Toxic atheist, f#ck you. Want to make s**t personal, franken-baby? No problem, a**hole.

JK


How long did it take to pluck up the courage to target my seriously ill Infant Daughter?

I just thought people would like to see an example of the human excrement that hal believes deserves a "second chance".

Ok, I'm finished with you now... you can go.

[Demon Yoyoloach]

Fool, what JK said to you was probably the sickest thing I've ever read, and I'm sorry you had to read it. Why he wasn't banned for good, I can't guess. JK is now the first and only person on my ignore list - GP didn't even make it.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by The Fool
Lol....whats the matter Jedi, did you get bored playing with your genitals all alone at your pc?


I'm not sure of Hals motivation for allowing you back in after you came crying to him begging for yet another chance. Maybe he feels sorry for you, maybe he thinks the board is short of human garbage.

Remember this Jedi?

So full of hate, coming from a guy who produces mutant babies. You know, the ones who need to be strapped to ventilators for years because they are born brain-dead.

Toxic atheist, f#ck you. Want to make s**t personal, franken-baby? No problem, a**hole.

JK


How long did it take to pluck up the courage to target my seriously ill Infant Daughter?

I just thought people would like to see an example of the human excrement that hal believes deserves a "second chance".

Ok, I'm finished with you now... you can go.

You are one of the biggest forum-predators I have ever seen. You will reply to my non-atheist positions with your atheist Jihadi urges without hesitation. It is in your nature. If you can't take it, don't dish it. Everything you ever said me was from a position of having an axe to grind. You can't stand yourself Fool--how can you possibly stand anyone else? I have never been an issue to you--just an outlet for your rage.

JK

[Tony]

Originally posted by The Fool
Lol....whats the matter Jedi, did you get bored playing with your genitals all alone at your pc?


I'm not sure of Hals motivation for allowing you back in after you came crying to him begging for yet another chance. Maybe he feels sorry for you, maybe he thinks the board is short of human garbage.

Remember this Jedi?

So full of hate, coming from a guy who produces mutant babies. You know, the ones who need to be strapped to ventilators for years because they are born brain-dead.

Toxic atheist, f#ck you. Want to make s**t personal, franken-baby? No problem, a**hole.

JK


How long did it take to pluck up the courage to target my seriously ill Infant Daughter?

I just thought people would like to see an example of the human excrement that hal believes deserves a "second chance".

Ok, I'm finished with you now... you can go.

As horrible as that is, I am forced to ask, what did you do to provoke him?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Demon Yoyoloach
Fool, what JK said to you was probably the sickest thing I've ever read, and I'm sorry you had to read it. Why he wasn't banned for good, I can't guess. JK is now the first and only person on my ignore list - GP didn't even make it.

I put up with over three months of daily, vile attacks by Fool and his atheist Jihadi minions in this forum before I even said anything in response to it. If that troubles you, by all means, put me on ignore. I will celebrate it.

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I put up with over three months of daily, vile attacks by Fool and his atheist Jihadi minions in this forum before I even said anything in response to it.

Can you give us an example of these supposed "daily, vile attacks"? Even if he did debate you, there's no excuse to post what you did...

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Tony


As horrible as that is, I am forced to ask, what did you do to provoke him?

If Fool would put me on ignore like the rest of his atheist Jihadi pals and recognize that this isn't an atheist forum, there wouldn't be any problems.

JK

[JAR]

Jedi Knight, thank god you came back. You were sorely missed.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by JAR
Jedi Knight, thank god you came back. You were sorely missed.

I am back JAR. It is good to see you too. ;)

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by clk


Can you give us an example of these supposed "daily, vile attacks"? Even if he did debate you, there's no excuse to post what you did...

Hey hero, this is the very first thing that Fool said to me upon returning to the forum:

Lol....whats the matter Jedi, did you get bored playing with your genitals all alone at your pc?

Are any other comments really needed? If you think there should be, don't waste my time and just put me on ignore too, k?

JK

[clk]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Hey hero, this is the very first thing that Fool said to me upon returning to the forum:

Lol....whats the matter Jedi, did you get bored playing with your genitals all alone at your pc?

Are any other comments really needed? If you think there should be, don't waste my time and just put me on ignore too, k?

JK

I meant an example from the past, when this all supposedly started.

[roger]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Cleo...I have never asked for nor demanded an apology for any of the venom spewn at me by the atheist Jihadis that post here.

Huh.

From here (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13241&perpage=40&highlight=apology&pagenumber=8):

]Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Do you believe in the venom you and the other wimps have been spewing against me? ... In fact, after I win the JREF challenge over my military service, I think all the JREF kids who piled on here owe me an apology.

[subgenius]

Originally posted by roger


Huh.

From here (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13241&perpage=40&highlight=apology&pagenumber=8):



He "never whines about the atheist jihadi" either, even while he's whining about this paranoid delusion.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Imagine what would you do if you had an authority.

If I had authority I would hand it all over to you lol. That is how the world currently works and I don't deny it.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by subgenius


He "never whines about the atheist jihadi" either, even while he's whining about this paranoid delusion.

Sub, in every post you make referencing me you say I am delusional. What is your problem? What are you angry and in a rage about? You have been doing that for months. Did your dad beat you as a child? What is wrong with you?

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by roger


Huh.

From here (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13241&perpage=40&highlight=apology&pagenumber=8):



There were so many times I was under attack that you have to expect that I would forget the number of times I asked for an apology. You can't blame me. Really.

JK

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


There were so many times I was under attack that you have to expect that I would forget the number of times I asked for an apology. You can't blame me. Really.

JK
JK
Its just yet another example of your habitual lying. You make up anything you need to support your point. You claim you have never asked for an apology...you have. When presented with yet another example of your habitual lying you attempt to weasel out of it.
Hal must have had some grand plan in allowing you to weasel your way back in. Stuffed if I can figure it out. There are no shortage of Idiots on the WWW we don't have to start recycling them...

[T'ai Chi]

clk, regarding the gravitational attraction between two marbles; Is there some formula that would give the gravitational attraction between a marble on Earth and a marble anywhere in the universe?

[clk]

Originally posted by T'ai Chi
clk, regarding the gravitational attraction between two marbles; Is there some formula that would give the gravitational attraction between a marble on Earth and a marble anywhere in the universe?

Yes, that same formula applies for that situation. Basically, you can use that formula for any two masses anywhere in the universe. For example, you can use that formula to calculate the attraction between you and Mars, or a marble on Earth and a marble in the Andromeda galaxy. All you have to know is the mass of both objects and the distance between them (actually the distance between the center of one to the center of the other). I actually don't have a physics background, so I am stating the above to the best of my knowledge. But I am pretty sure that I am right.
It's quite amazing, huh? I still don't know how Newton came up with it...that formula shows just how smart he really was.
If you have any really technical questions, you probably need to talk to Stimpson J. Cat, I think he has a Ph.D in physics :)

[Tricky]

I believe that in one of his books, Randi pointed out how silly astrology was by showing that during birth, a baby would be more affected by the influence of gravity from the doctor who was delivering it than it would from the nearest star.

[The Fool]

Ladies and Gentlemen, Elvis has left the building....Lol. Well, that was fun while it lasted.... Maybe JK can apply for the award for the worlds shortest last chance?

[clk]

Originally posted by The Fool
Ladies and Gentlemen, Elvis has left the building....Lol. Well, that was fun while it lasted.... Maybe JK can apply for the award for the worlds shortest last chance?

I think that he'll be back after a while. I wonder what his new screen name will be? And how long before someone figures out that it is him?

[Cleopatra]

Next time Jedi, take the advice of a matriarchal totalitarian feminazi ;)

It seems that clk was right.

You chose to shoot yourself rather than posting an apology.

[Brown]

Originally posted by Tricky
I believe that in one of his books, Randi pointed out how silly astrology was by showing that during birth, a baby would be more affected by the influence of gravity from the doctor who was delivering it than it would from the nearest star. That sounds more like Carl Sagan (in "Cosmos"), but perhaps Mr. Randi was quoting Dr. Sagan.Originally posted by clk
think that he'll be back after a while. I wonder what his new screen name will be? And how long before someone figures out that it is him?Those who get kicked off do seem to enjoy this little tactic, don't they? What losers.

[a_unique_person]

Looks like Luke has dropped the photon torpedo right up the Kyber.

[subgenius]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Sub, in every post you make referencing me you say I am delusional. What is your problem? What are you angry and in a rage about? You have been doing that for months. Did your dad beat you as a child? What is wrong with you?

JK
Dad abusive, mom promiscuous.....paging Dr. Freud........explains every post by this guy....sad.....I hope he finds peace.........

[Crossbow]

Well, Well, Well! JK has won the race to pushing his own 'Self-Destruction Button'.

I have found Jedi Knight to be a rather stupid person.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
Looks like Luke has dropped the photon torpedo right up the Kyber.

:Han Solo: WOOOOOOO-HOO!

Eat dirt, Jedi. Mercenary smugglers have it over punks like you any day of the week.

[Tricky]

Darn. And I was all ready to restart my list of the bizarre things he had said. Now it seems pointless.

Jedi we hardly knew ye.

[Ian Osborne]

What did he do to get banned? I've not seen many of his posts since he came back, and what I saw was the usual matriarchal totalitarianism crap.

Not that I'll miss the brain-dead piece of plankton...

[Upchurch]

Ah. the memories.

I'd forgotten gems like "consciousness creates matter" and "Martian ancestry". I never did get an explination how the D&M Pyramid on Mars explains hyperdimensional physics, nor will I now, I suppose.

I can really only say I'm surprised that he lasted 24 hours. I wonder if we'll be hearing from Franko next?

[jj]

Originally posted by Upchurch
Ah. the memories.

I'd forgotten gems like "consciousness creates matter" and "Martian ancestry". I never did get an explination how the D&M Pyramid on Mars explains hyperdimensional physics, nor will I now, I suppose.

I can really only say I'm surprised that he lasted 24 hours. I wonder if we'll be hearing from Franko next?

A-theist, grade A
Franko will come, Paul will blind
Nobody noticed!

[Crossbow]

For those of you who may not be familar with the Jedi Knight Theory of Gravity, please look at the below I posted a while back:

More recently, here is a snyposis of some of things JK (in bold) had to say about gravity. Note: this is just the stuff he said in one page of an eight page thread!

1) First item:

Bjorn, if you are floating in outer space, does your body weight matter? Does it? Does your body make gravity?

2) At this point, someone tried to tell JK to drop the topic since his rants were making him look silly. But of JK is just smart for that, so he responded thusly:

This is way too easy. Bjorn, if I roll a marble down a hill on one side of the road and roll another marble down the same hill at the same time on the other side of the road, do the marbles affect each other's mass?

Do the marbles emit "gravity" or does "gravity" rule the marbles?

If I take the same marbles and send them into space and they pass each other, with their courses be affected? Absolutely not.

If you took physics, I am laughing at you thinking you learned something.

Let me teach you some things about Physics, Bjorn. If you take your "body" and put it on Pluto, would it "weigh" the same?

Just have to love atheist "mysticism" lol. Your "body weight" comes from something Bjorn, and it is not your body. That is the whole point of what I am talking about.

I will say it again since everyone is ignoring it either because they don't understand it or fear trying to reply to it:

The Big Bang is so much pseudo-science that I can hammer the theory in one simple post.

Does "space" have mass? Does it? We know "gravity" is generated by stars--does "space" generate gravity?

If I have two particles (The Big Bang Theory) of opposites and they connect and create a "universe", what was the "gravity effect" that brought those particles together to start it all? Was there a sun? There couldn't be because that is "something from nothing" (spontaneous generation mystical science).

Take it a step further--let's say that the two particles did "mystically" start the big bang. Let's also say that those two particles inhabited 1 cubic meter of space. Where did that cubic meter come from? Since there was no gravity, how did the particles meet? Did the two particles float in the cubic meter of space and eventually wander into each other causing this massive release of energy that created the universe?

How much "space" existed to allow the two particles to "mystically exist"? Given the size of the universe, the two particles must have originated in the same area of space, a very limited area, potentially a microscopic area.

Now, if any of this is true, that means that the "explosion" that started the universe started from a centralized location--a focal point. Where is this focal point (starting point)?

The universe is trillions of years old. But I bet The Big Bang Theory makes it easier not to think about it lol. Kind of like psychic dowsing.

Simple question--where did the "space" come from that allowed the two "particles" to exist to "create" the universe?

JK

3) He was again warned of what he silly he was looking and that he should let the issue go. So what did JK do, he wrote this:

Let what go--the scientific mysticism I am reading from Bjorn?

Let me ask you a simple question, Fool. If you are sent into outer space without a space suit, does your body create "gravity" in zero gravity?

Or does it...come apart?

JK

and this:

Gosh, my body, according to Bjorn, creates "gravity". I guess I can fly to Mars and walk around the surface of the planet without a spacesuit!

JK

4) Someone tried to explain to him that gravity is always formed by any object with mass, and that if two bodies with mass are placed near one another, then they will be drawn together. Did he listen? Nope, he wrote:

Your body wouldn't be attracted to mine in zero gravity. What BS are you trying to throw around Fool! Our bodies may randomly run across each other if the body fluid eruptions propelled them on the same course after zero gravity death. But we would not create gravity to attract each other.

JK

5) Here is my favorite, it is where JK floats his idea that gravity is created by stars and the motions of planets.

The marbles didn't affect each other. I could roll one marble down one side of the road and it would behave the exact same way as if I rolled one down the other side of the road. The "marbles" obey the laws of physics. They do not create gravity. Gravity governs the marble. Anything with mass obeys gravity. Gravity is created in the universe by stars and the motion of the planets orbiting stars. That is where gravity comes from.

Now, explain to me how my body is going to create gravity so I can go to mars without a space suit and walk on the planet without one.

JK

6) Once again, people tried to explain to him how gravity is actually generated, and did he listen. Nope! He just wrote:

Sure Bjorn, and if I roll a marble down the highway in California in will affect the one I roll down the highway in Florida, won't it?

This is the best comedy I have read by Bjorn in a very long time.

JK

And he wrote this as well:

Gosh, so you are saying that if your body is floating near Saturn it will attract mine floating near Mars.

Jesus this is the most hilarious crap I have ever heard.

Gravity is "weight", right Fool? Your body "creates" weight in space (creates gravity)?

Better pass the pipe to Bjorn lol. This is hilarious!!!!!!!

JK

And this:

The marbles don't affect each other Bjorn. They obey, they do not order.

JK

And by this time, he started to think that people were telling him that humans are the source of gravity.

Oh I get it. The universe revolves around humans because of all the "gravity" we create LOL. How stupid of me.

JK

Once again, that thought that humans create all the gravity.

Yep, the universe revolves around humans lol. Why didn't I see it before.

Absolutely hilarious.

JK

Still hung up on that humans and gravity thing in spite of the numerous attempts to correct him.

OK Bjorn, humans create gravity and that holds the universe together--just like you said lol.

JK

As dense as ever.

No way am I going to let you get away with the nonsense you are spouting Bjorn. You said humans "create gravity". Humans have gravity because of our mass but we do not "create" gravity. We do not generate gravity.

But I like your theory about humans being the center of the universe--it fits with the atheist religion.

JK

Density still increasing.

Yep, that is what you said. You said humans create gravity Bjorn and your pal Fool piled on in support of you. This is going to be hilarious by the time I am done with you.

Bjorn, you took Physics, right? At least you claim that you have.

Anyway, what is gravity? Gravity is "true weight".

Again, if I take a human and put them into zero gravity, will the human generate gravity? You and Fool claim that humans do. I say that they do not. Since zero gravity reduces human weight, how can a human "generate" gravity in zero gravity?

Come on Bjorn genius. Come on smart guy. Explain it to me.

JK

7) Now we start to see his vaunted math skills at work:

Bjorn, you said humans "create gravity". If that is true, why do humans need this:

Ac = V'2/R

Why do humans need that Bjorn if humans "create gravity" in zero gravity?

Class is in session.

JK

And this page finished up with this tidbit of mathematical wisdom as well.

Bjorn, if humans create gravity, why is this [When ac = g then Fc = w] important?

Class is in session.

JK

[Sundog]

A good example of why science is a better method for arriving at the truth than slavering, paranoid, cynical right-wing arrogance.

[HarryKeogh]

Crossbow, I am now dumber for having read that post by JK.

thanks a lot!

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Sundog
A good example of why science is a better method for arriving at the truth than slavering, paranoid, cynical right-wing arrogance.

Actually it's a good example of why science is better than slvering paranoid arrogance of any stripe.

[MRC_Hans]

He's BACK?? Just wonderful! Get ready for the next installment of the JEDI BLIGHT Saga in Flame Wars. :D :D :D

Been missing you JK! You see, I'm a lousy flamer, so I've been on sore need of an easy victim! :cs:


Hansssssss....

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by MRC_Hans
He's BACK?? Just wonderful! Get ready for the next installment of the JEDI BLIGHT Saga in Flame Wars. :D :D :D

Been missing you JK! You see, I'm a lousy flamer, so I've been on sore need of an easy victim! :cs:


Hansssssss....

Back and banned already. I missed the whole ugly saga over the weekend too.

[MRC_Hans]

Ahh, oh, well..... easy come, easy go, as they say.:rolleyes:


Hans

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by Sundog
A good example of why science is a better method for arriving at the truth than slavering, paranoid, cynical right-wing arrogance.

True, but that's not saying much.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by subgenius

Dad abusive, mom promiscuous.....paging Dr. Freud........explains every post by this guy....sad.....I hope he finds peace.........

I'm with you on this. As much as everyone likes to heap abuse on him, (and he did step over the line with Fool), I feel sorry for him. He was clearly troubled and suffering emotional pain. I would say he was also very lonely and depressed. He did find some friendship on this board that I think meant something to him, as much as he was exasperated by his inability to get just about anyone to agree with him.

As you say, his hatred of women appears to be due to his mother's treatment of his family. My guess is that he was kicked out of the armed forces, which would have been something he loved and was his substitute family. He wanted to get a job as a right wing analyst for the CIA or any think tank that would have him. I don't see that happening.

He did develop some capacity to laugh at himself, which I thought was a good sign. However, people such as Fool, rather than just tolerate him for what he was, did attack him for some of his more outrageous statements. His return attack on Fool just displayed his immaturity. Fool was prepared to wear that, and I thought it had all died down. However, the next time Fool attacked him for some stupid comment he made, he then launched back into an attack on Fool and his family issues.

I really do think that Fool, although he was correct in his assesment of JKs faults, should have just left him alone. JREF was actually something that helped JK mature, which is probably more than he got from most of his other experiences in life.

I also think Hal was right to let him back for another try. As JK said, if you don't like he had to say, and I don't think there was anything I agreed with that he had to say, then you could just put him on ignore. As it was, like I said, when JK was around, there was no such thing as a slow news day.

He was not a troll like S&S or Genghis. JK was just what he was.

[subgenius]

I was willing to ignore him, and had him on ignore. But when you see posts espousing violence and hatred you have a duty to take a stand, or else acquiesence is taken for assent. The old "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing."
I didn't care if he asserted that we came from Mars, but when he claimed no woman was ever abused, and the ones who were killed were sluts (all married women having dozens of illicit partners, etc.) you can't let that go by without trying to resist.
Factual beliefs with no evidence are delusional at some point. And when those delusional thoughts justify hatred or violence, you can't sit by.

This hit home when I saw a PBS special on hate groups in Idaho, I think it was. First they vandalized a single Native American mom's home, then threw a brick through a Jewish kid's window because she had a mennorah in the window..
The response of the community still brings tears to my eyes.
They went and repaired the woman's house.
And the local paper printed mennorahs and everyone put one up in their windows.
What happens to any of us happens to all of us.

Nazi Germany happened because too many "good" people were willing to let things be said and done as long as it wasn't directed against them.

I don't have any ill feelings toward JK the person, and never did, and I expressed that to him on several occassions. I detested the behavior.
No one lives their lives based on hate without there being some reason for that negative behavior. These people are unhappy and hurting, and I can sympathize with that without tolerating the behavior.

[subgenius]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Next time Jedi, take the advice of a matriarchal totalitarian feminazi ;)

It seems that clk was right.

You chose to shoot yourself rather than posting an apology.

Those who assume responsibility and apologize are usually less blameworthy than those that deny and refuse.
Those who admit they don't know everything are smarter than those who claim to know everything.
Those who admit they lie are more credible than those who don't.

[a_unique_person]

He certainly was a mess of contradictions. For example, he claimed to be a supporter of Israel, but couldn't seem to handle, Cleopatra, who is half Jewish, not being a one-eyed supporter of Israel and taunter of ignorance.

Still, I think it was better for him to be here, where we could at least keep an eye on him and point out his most basic misapprehensions, rather than just kick him out. As I say, I was surprised to see him developing a sense of humour about himself towards the end.

[Cleopatra]

I don't know Unique, I want us to discuss this sometime, the support of Americans towards Israel is an odd story full of contradictions in any case :)

[The Fool]

Originally posted by a_unique_person




I really do think that Fool, although he was correct in his assesment of JKs faults, should have just left him alone.

Not really an option I was prepared to consider. If he turns up to a debate with a bagfull of fabricated statistics and a complete lack of knowledge of what you are debating what am I supposed t do? ....yea, ok JK...Marbles are exempt from the laws of gravity? Or should I just accept his claim that over 50% of women have had abortions? This is a debate board, Not a hospital ward for the mad, sad and dysfunctional...... The guy was a compulsive liar, he had no control over it. He would often lie about things he had said on the same page...I honestly think he was delusional as Sub suggests...

I am perfectly willing to acknowledge the similarities between myself and those that I harras...but, I say what I say and I stand or fall on its merits. I don't ask anyone to ease up on me because bullsh*t and trolling is some sort of therapy for me. Compulsive lying makes a debate board unworkable, It cannot go unchallanged.

Ok, I have to go now, I'm soloing the north face of the Matterhorn this afternoon and I have to be back early enough to meet Anna Kournikova for Dinner....

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by The Fool


Not really an option I was prepared to consider. If he turns up to a debate with a bagfull of fabricated statistics and a complete lack of knowledge of what you are debating what am I supposed t do? ....yea, ok JK...Marbles are exempt from the laws of gravity? Or should I just accept his claim that over 50% of women have had abortions? This is a debate board, Not a hospital ward for the mad, sad and dysfunctional...... The guy was a compulsive liar, he had no control over it. He would often lie about things he had said on the same page...I honestly think he was delusional as Sub suggests...



I would guess the things he made up he felt to be true. The fact that he felt them to be true is different to someone who just makes things up to stir up trouble. As for not being a place for the mad, sad and dysfunctional, well, everyone here is mad, sad or dysfuncitonal except for you and me, and sometimes I even have doubts about you.

[peptoabysmal]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
I don't know Unique, I want us to discuss this sometime, the support of Americans towards Israel is an odd story full of contradictions in any case :)

From my American perspective, Cleo, part of the support from Americans is founded in the Christian religion. The other part is that no one in the world gets on a plane and wonders if some Israeli is going to blow it up or hijack it. To us, the Arab / Palestinian supporters just seem to be seething with rage towards anyone who doesn't see the same dim future that they do.

[Cleopatra]

Peptoabysmal

I want to have the discussion in this forum once, in a separate thread. I agree and disagree with you :)

[The Fool]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


and sometimes I even have doubts about you.

Are you suggesting I'm paranoid? eh??? eh? I AM NOT PARANOID!!!! So next time you are chairing the "get fool" meeting just tell everyone to lay off....ok? And don't think I didn't spot your pathetic attempt to take over my PC speakers...HAHAHA....didn't expect the tinfoil helmet though....did yo? too smart for you by half....Muhahahahaha....

ok, I'm better now...what were you saying again?

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by peptoabysmal


From my American perspective, Cleo, part of the support from Americans is founded in the Christian religion. The other part is that no one in the world gets on a plane and wonders if some Israeli is going to blow it up or hijack it. To us, the Arab / Palestinian supporters just seem to be seething with rage towards anyone who doesn't see the same dim future that they do.

Which is one of the main points of the debate. As long as Americans aren't threatened, then they aren't concerned. However, if you're an Iranian on an airliner, you may be shot down. Or a Vietnamese after independence or a Chilean voting for a democratic government. Then you had better watch out.

[peptoabysmal]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


Which is one of the main points of the debate. As long as Americans aren't threatened, then they aren't concerned. However, if you're an Iranian on an airliner, you may be shot down. Or a Vietnamese after independence or a Chilean voting for a democratic government. Then you had better watch out.

You actually missed the point. Americans aren't the only ones being threatened.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by peptoabysmal


You actually missed the point. Americans aren't the only ones being threatened.

I'll say they aren't.

[Crossbow]

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
Crossbow, I am now dumber for having read that post by JK.

thanks a lot!

Sorry about that HK! I hope you feel better now.

:)

[Reginald]

This wasn't as good as the film...IN the film it blew up. I didn't expect the death star here to just deflate like a cheap balloon!

Couldn't we Write a cute Ewok into the script???


NO?







Didn't think so. :(

[rikzilla]

So,

I leave town and JK comes back...then he leaves!!?? What's up with that? I have to admit that I like JK. He has some redeeming qualities. (please don't ask for a list...I'll admit now that it wouldn't be a long one) The fact that I kinda like JK is horrifying on one level, and embarassing on yet another. He's admirable in his devotion to his country...IMHO that is....and yet some of the stuff he spouts just makes you say WTF??!! He's like a wreck on the side of the road....nasty, but then you can't seem to look away either.

Perhaps he is incapable of saying sorry to Fool...if so then I pity him. Perhaps he has no children and thus has no idea how callous his words were?? Who knows... I'm not here to be his apologist. What he said was beyond the pale...no matter what the provocation.

As for Hal,...all I can say is "bravo!" It's good that you give people the benefit of the doubt, along with second chances.

BTW...to change the subject completely, my own daughter made the Washington Post last Sunday after being in a Sept 11th memorial with her GS troop..she got to be the flag bearer....check out the
picture (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6893-2003Sep13.html)

...and if anyone wants to say negative stuff about her I'd want to kick their a$$ just as bad as Fool likely wanted to do to JK.

Fool, I know we've had our issues in the past, and I know that we rarely agree on anything...but I'd like you to know how distasteful I found JK's comments to be.

-zilla

[Tricky]

Hmm. Is this (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870095993#post1870095993) just coincidence?

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by Upchurch
I wonder if we'll be hearing from Franko next? I swear, I was just kidding. :eek:

[subgenius]

Rik,
Awesome pic.....I can feel the beaming of a proud papa from here....congrats daddio.....

[Cleopatra]

Originally posted by rikzilla
So,

I have to admit that I like JK. He has some redeeming qualities. (please don't ask for a list...I'll admit now that it wouldn't be a long one) The fact that I kinda like JK is horrifying on one level, and embarassing on yet another

Now that's a relief!!!! Somebody else admits that he likes Jedi too :) I am not the only pervert in this forum :D

Thank you Rik.


Your daughter is lovely, very... Renaissant in style... :) You must be proud of her! Was it you that was complaining that she had dyed her hair green or another desperate father? I am not so sure about this.;)

Parents!!! You do nothing but complaining....

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by subgenius
Rik,
Awesome pic.....I can feel the beaming of a proud papa from here....congrats daddio.....
/beam on
Thanks man... :)

/beam off

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by Cleopatra


Now that's a relief!!!! Somebody else admits that he likes Jedi too :) I am not the only pervert in this forum :D

Thank you Rik.


Your daughter is lovely, very... Renaissant in style... :) You must be proud of her! Was it you that was complaining that she had dyed her hair green or another desperate father? I am not so sure about this.;)

Parents!!! You do nothing but complaining....

What a great mind for trivia you have Cleo... ;)

Yes, green hair, much piercing,...already picking out what tattoos she'll get when she graduates! :eek:

She's my 17 year old....April, the one in the pic is only 11 and is still my good little girl scout. :) But I fear teenagehood is looming large! My older girl, Karina, is wonderful in her own way. But she's a bit of "way too cool to be a Daddy's girl"...April is the ultimate Daddy's girl.....very "girly" unlike her sis. Nails and hair have to be "just so"....dreams of being a cheerleader soon. Two kids who couldn't be more different! You should hear how they yell at each other! :eek: But they're also close at the same time.....contradictory statement eh? That's my girls! ;)

-z

[Cleopatra]

April???!!! What a lovely name, we used to have a young girl in the Chef's forum that her name was April, she was thinking of becoming a chef and soon she became the mascot of the forum :)

Please, find a way to persuade her not to have tatoos!!!

Try to win some time, she might change her mind!

I have an identical twin sister. We are carbon copies and yet we are the most different people on this planet.So... I understand what you are saying.

Being a parent is very difficult!I admire all of you! Keep-on the good job!!

[Supercharts]

I like JK also.
In a PM between us he was kind enough to give me a list of books which I found very enjoyable. IMHO he's a very intelligent person who just likes pushing other people's buttons.
I don't always agree with him but that's not a criteria I use to determine if he's a jerk or not. He's not.
JK should go to the 'other place' for a while. Just post his stuff there and then visit here once in a while to irritate Hal.
However, he's now banned. Forever. :(
I just know Ren would love it if he shows up at the 'other place'. [I think she has the hots for strong, opinionated males. Cleo is the same. Go figure...:confused: ]

[corplinx]

why of why did some of you guys have to prod JK into self-destructing again? Whenever I run into a total twit on this board, I just put them on ignore.

the thing is, you knew if you prodded him what would happen, is this how we deal with people with weird ideas? (like a face on mars) You push their buttons until the pop (which you know they will).

Personally, I think Hal should have suspended jedi's account until he made a personal phone call to fool and apologized.

I for one didnt need to see that awful "mutant baby" text repeated on this forum in this thread.

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by corplinx
why of why did some of you guys have to prod JK into self-destructing again? Whenever I run into a total twit on this board, I just put them on ignore.

the thing is, you knew if you prodded him what would happen, is this how we deal with people with weird ideas? (like a face on mars) You push their buttons until the pop (which you know they will).

*snip* Mmm, I did no prodding this time, but only because he vanished before I had time. I do hope I did my share during the previous round.

So why do I not just put him on ignore (and a few like him)?
Because people like him are destructive. They seek confrontation and will do or say anything to achieve it. They won't be ignored; if they don't get a rise, they will step up the heat till they do.

I have (and Fool has) tried to argue with JK in a reasonable way repeatedly, but to no avail. He was impervious to logic, unable or unwilling to change his ideas, lying and making up things whenever it suited him.

I know JK is just a sick puppy, and driving him off the edge will not do him any good as a person, but this place is not an institution. It is not a place where sick people can yell at the moon and smash up the furniture. JK needs help, but we here are not in a position to help him unless he is willing to receive it, and unlike some who have passed by these pages, he was clearly not.

All that was left was to remove his destructive influence. This has been done. It was not nice, but it had to be done. The holy ones can go and wash their hands now.

Hans

[subgenius]

Easiest thing in the world to sit back and criticize anything anybody else does.
All it takes to evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
Advocating, justifying violence, ignorance and hatred is evil.
Like an alcoholic, its better to hit bottom sooner than later.
"Prodded him into self-destructing" kind of an oxymoron.
The blame game. So it was everyone else's fault.
Hide the bottle. You're killing the alcoholic surer than letting them live with the consequences of their actions, and learn, and maybe find redemption.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by MRC_Hans
Mmm, I did no prodding this time, but only because he vanished before I had time. I do hope I did my share during the previous round.

So why do I not just put him on ignore (and a few like him)?
Because people like him are destructive. They seek confrontation and will do or say anything to achieve it. They won't be ignored; if they don't get a rise, they will step up the heat till they do.

I have (and Fool has) tried to argue with JK in a reasonable way repeatedly, but to no avail. He was impervious to logic, unable or unwilling to change his ideas, lying and making up things whenever it suited him.

Hans

I don't think he lied so much as he could not admit when he was wrong, which was pretty often. You have to leave someone with an escape hatch sometimes, so that they have a way out of looking like they have lost. For someone like JK, who had a deeply damaged self-image, this was important. That is, having shown him he was wrong, just leave it at that. It's not as if him saying that 50% of women are tarts means that anyone believes it, or means that lynch mobs will be forming.

I found his most offensive rants were about needing to nuke NK because there weren't enough troops around to invade them after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't think his thinking that meant that it was any more or less likely to happen.

[Cleopatra]

Personally I haven't realized that Jedi was facing any kind of problem that needed our special care. On the contrary, I have potrayed him as a highly intelligent man, with a black and sarcastic sense of humor ( the feature of his character I enjoyed most), he was able to apply self-sarcasm--something that the majority of the members here are unable to do-- but he was trolling most of the time and he didn't have limits in the black version of his humor.

I repeat that I couldn't sit back comfortably on my chair and enjoy Jedi's absurd posts while other people here had serious reasons for feeling offended by his presence.

This is a serious issue in a community. Communities have to make choices , I hate the : " Take it easy" or " What's your problem" approach. It is my problem. I can't fool around with Jedi in one thread and make jokes with Fool or Luciana or Denise that have serious reason not to like him -- to another.

Simple things. All he needed to do was to compose an apology.

Jedi is smart, he should have known better.

[subgenius]

Originally posted by Cleopatra
Personally I haven't realized that Jedi was facing any kind of problem that needed our special care. On the contrary, I have potrayed him as a highly intelligent man, with a black and sarcastic sense of humor ( the feature of his character I enjoyed most), he was able to apply self-sarcasm--something that the majority of the members here are unable to do-- but he was trolling most of the time and he didn't have limits in the black version of his humor.

I repeat that I couldn't sit back comfortably on my chair and enjoy Jedi's absurd posts while other people here had serious reasons for feeling offended by his presence.

This is a serious issue in a community. Communities have to make choices , I hate the : " Take it easy" or " What's your problem" approach. It is my problem. I can't fool around with Jedi in one thread and make jokes with Fool or Luciana or Denise that have serious reason not to like him -- to another.

Simple things. All he needed to do was to compose an apology.

Jedi is smart, he should have known better.

Sorry to be so blunt, but he was a blithering blathering idiot.
And to top it off he espoused hateful, violence condoning ideas.
There's nothing entertaining in that.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by subgenius


Sorry to be so blunt, but he was a blithering blathering idiot.
And to top it off he espoused hateful, violence condoning ideas.
There's nothing entertaining in that.

I think he was intelligent enough, but with the emotional maturity of a teenager. (Ref, LK).

[Cleopatra]

It's ok. It seems that we define intelligence quite differently.

To me idiots are the semi-educated that take themselves so seriously that they believe that they have the obligation to preach their beliefs. To them, self-sarcasm is not a word that is included in their vocabulary.

As for this :
And to top it off he espoused hateful, violence condoning ideas.

If you read several people's posts in this forum you will realize that he isn't the only one. He didn't have the tact to cover it and this is what made him very unpleasant. As I said, he should have known better, he got what he deserved, I am not sorry for him.

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Cleopatra

If you read several people's posts in this forum you will realize that he isn't the only one. He didn't have the tact to cover it and this is what made him very unpleasant. As I said, he should have known better, he got what he deserved, I am not sorry for him.

I'm not glad he's gone, I'm not glad he was here. He was just JK and he happened to be here and he was what he was. The only people I was really glad to see the end of were the likes of Genghis Pwn and Latinijral, who actively set out to screw everything up.

[Cleopatra]

I totally agree with you!

Hey Unique! Let's take down the date we agreed on something :p

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


I don't think he lied so much as he could not admit when he was wrong, which was pretty often. You have to leave someone with an escape hatch sometimes, so that they have a way out of looking like they have lost. For someone like JK, who had a deeply damaged self-image, this was important. That is, having shown him he was wrong, just leave it at that. It's not as if him saying that 50% of women are tarts means that anyone believes it, or means that lynch mobs will be forming.

I found his most offensive rants were about needing to nuke NK because there weren't enough troops around to invade them after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't think his thinking that meant that it was any more or less likely to happen. Only way he could escape the liar brand would be ignorance. He was far too intelligent and educated to be ignorant.

JK lied habitually, making up information and statistical figures whenever it suited him. I have a list somewhere, but since he is gone, just let this suffice: He once claimed that the Volkswagen was designed by Crysler as an aid to Germany after the war.

Now, silly fools I can live with and ignore, but intelligent deliberate liars and provocateurs, I feel the need to fight. I prefer to fight them simply with the truth, but sometimes this does not suffice, and then "ve haff otter metods" ;) .

As for JK being merely a charming joker: I don't buy that one. First of all, his cruelty was not very charming, and his tantrums whenever he got pressed show he was actually serious.

Hans

[JamesM]

I don't think JK got prodded too hard on his brief return, it was pretty mild stuff.

While he is not alone in having handed out the abuse, I think most people would make a distinction between saying vile things about a person (fair game) and saying vile things about a member of their family (lame 'yo momma' comments aside).

If it was not made clear to him by Hal that an apology to Fool was a prerequisite of his return to the forum, then I think the circumstances of his ban were unfortunate, but I shan't be losing sleep over it.

[Tricky]

I admit to prodding Jedi pretty hard before his first exit, but his implosion kind of scared me. He acted genuinely crazy, and with his tacit approval of some kinds of violence, I was worried he might do something foolish, so I left him alone on his return.

Normally, though, I do prod trolls. My reasoning is that to protect the reputation of the JREF boards, trolls should not go unchallenged. I know Randi disagrees with me on this, but to heck with him. Let him get his own... um... Maybe I'd better think about this.