Do over savaged by no planer on youtube

[scissorhands]

Watching this guy is like staring into a very deep abyss.

NSFW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwVWkHwagDY

[leftysergeant]

Genghis is, of course, a close ally of killtown. He seems intent on proving that an aircraft could not have penetrated the towers, but offers no really rational explanation of how the dmage could have been done.

Frankly, that whole crowd, consisting of KT, Web Fairy, bsregistration and Jeff Hill ( of www,pumpitout) are obviously barmey.

[Gravy]

He says about Avery, "You're a nobody, mate."

Um, dude, probably not a good time to throw stones. Your video production studio is a car.

About the aircraft hitting the buildings: "The body should have crumpled a little bit." :eye-poppi

[Drudgewire]

The thing that leaves me the most bewildered about twoofers is that, thanks to youtube, they can see with their own eyes the dingleberries they are hitching their wagons to and don't run away screaming or laughing.

[Undesired Walrus]

Um, dude, probably not a good time to throw stones. Your video production studio is a car.

I was bemused by that too. Why?

[leftysergeant]

The studiop from which Genghis did this hit piece is sort of symbolic of the whole twoofer scene. These people are literally coming out of nowhere and making noises as if they considered themselves established institutions. They are a hollow shell.

[Gravy]

I was bemused by that too. Why?Either kicked out by the Mrs. or the basement flooded.

[T.A.M.]

For this guys, all I can say is...

"Excellent take down. Too bad you are completely wrong about 9/11."

TAM:)

[Brainster]

As I always say in a troofer war, it's like the guy dressed up as Napoleon at the loony bin saying that the fellow who looks like George Washington is nuts.

[T.A.M.]

As I always say in a troofer war, it's like the guy dressed up as Napoleon at the loony bin saying that the fellow who looks like George Washington is nuts.

Agreed, but it is still fun watching them tussle it out over the last mentos.

TAM:)

[CHF]

I love how twoofers are able to offer some accurate analysis when discussing the theories and beliefs of other twoofers.

"Dude...I don't know if you've ever listened to Alex Jones, like really listed to him...The guy is a ******* raving evangelical lunatic! If you look at his web site, it's just spam. He's selling crap, man, he's selling truth. You're selling truth."Can't argue with that part.

[Mancman]

Genghis is ill. They are all fairly ill.

[scissorhands]

What a deeply worrying individual.
That was my first thought on viewing this, then I kind of felt sorry for Dylans future, being stalked by nutcases like this for "selling out" in their eyes.
And then I realised that this is what goes with the territory.
He panders to idiots for money, its only fair that that he reaps the consequences.
The worms are turning.

[CptColumbo]

He looks like Bill Nye.

[Gravy]

Let's remember that in much more highly-produced and heavily-promoted videos than this, Avery has been a Pentagon and Shanksville no-planer, and he claimed that the planes that hit the towers weren't flights 11 and 175. He's about one blotter hit and a "crikey" away from the guy who made this video.

[njslim]

At ABOVE TOP SECRET been going throught the same thing with one of the resident loons
who insists that since aircraft are made (mostly) of aluminium and the exterior wall panels
of WTC are steel plane could not penetrate building....

Check out insanity at this thread

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread316443/pg1

[CptColumbo]

As I always say to people who think that the aluminium plane couldn't penetrate the side of the WTC or the Pentagon. Take a soda (beer) can, empty it and throw it at a window. Now take a full can and do the same thing. Note the difference, and be sure to do them in the order I have given.

[JAStewart]

Swearing = Twoof!

[A W Smith]

He looks like Bill Nye.


speakin of Bill Nye. the past four days or so I have been getting up about 5 am. Nye has some science show on that covers a variety of subjects. They were doing a segment on steel the other morning. As i was getting dressed i see the twin towers appear on my bedroom TV screen as an example of steel being used in modern skyscrapers. And I kid you not, I hear Bill Nye utter these words, "The twin towers had a steel reinforced concrete core". I think to myself Oh No!!!! I sure hope ChristoperA isn't awake yet.

[CptColumbo]

speakin of Bill Nye. the past four days or so I have been getting up about 5 am. Nye has some science show on that covers a variety of subjects. They were doing a segment on steel the other morning. As i was getting dressed i see the twin towers appear on my bedroom TV screen as an example of steel being used in modern skyscrapers. And I kid you not, I hear Bill Nye utter these words, "The twin towers had a steel reinforced concrete core". I think to myself Oh No!!!! I sure hope ChristoperA isn't awake yet.So, he doesn't just look like Bill Nye....OMG!

[stateofgrace]

The plane had a blunt nose? :eek:

Is this guy serious? The plane had a blunt nose so there was no way it could have penetrated the WTC.:jaw-dropp

[A W Smith]

The plane had a blunt nose? :eek:

Is this guy serious? The plane had a blunt nose so there was no way it could have penetrated the WTC.:jaw-dropp




yeah it should have rubbed itself on the side of the building like some sort of winged bottle of roll on deodorant and then dropped to the streets below.

[Unsecured Coins]

I've been getting a lot of no planers who've applauded my vids about Dylan.

[Gravy]

The plane had a blunt nose? :eek:

Is this guy serious? The plane had a blunt nose so there was no way it could have penetrated the WTC.:jaw-droppDidn't Malcolm Kirkman make that argument here?

[Slayhamlet]

Didn't Malcolm Kirkman make that argument here?

Yep. It was something like "no pointy bit, no entry". Yes, he said "pointy bit".

[Gravy]

speakin of Bill Nye. the past four days or so I have been getting up about 5 am. Nye has some science show on that covers a variety of subjects. They were doing a segment on steel the other morning. As i was getting dressed i see the twin towers appear on my bedroom TV screen as an example of steel being used in modern skyscrapers. And I kid you not, I hear Bill Nye utter these words, "The twin towers had a steel reinforced concrete core". I think to myself Oh No!!!! I sure hope ChristoperA isn't awake yet.A very attractive woman once turned down the chance to date Nye – whose show she loved – in order to go out with me. I told her she was nuts: that I would have gone out with Nye if I had the chance. Now I can see how wise she was. :eek:

[R.Mackey]

The plane had a blunt nose? :eek:

Is this guy serious? The plane had a blunt nose so there was no way it could have penetrated the WTC.:jaw-dropp



Hard to tell if he's serious, but that's what he said.

He also said that "bullets have sharp points" and are "solid objects," and that's why they can blast through steel. Oy vey.

One of the better steel-destroying rounds available to an ordinary civilian is this little number (http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/product/0016697212291a.shtml), which as you can see, is neither sharp nor solid, though admittedly it is more solid than an airplane. I've seen these penetrate a full inch of steel at 200 meters, where their impact velocity was roughly equal to that of UA175...

So why does it work? Why this bullet, and not others? Easy. Lots of momentum. Sectional density (e.g. small cross-section) helps, but there's no substitute for raw momentum. A blob of Jell-O equal in size and speed to the aircraft would have sheared perimeter columns, no matter what mentally unstable videographers working from the inside of an estate wagon may tell you.

[CurtC]

A very attractive woman once turned down the chance to date Nye – whose show she loved – in order to go out with me.
Shhhh! The Truthers at the LC Forum actually seem to think you're gay, based solely on some old video someone dug up on YouTube titled "Mark Roberts, Gay Spy."

[portlandatheist]

That video was hilarious!

[CptColumbo]

Shhhh! The Truthers at the LC Forum actually seem to think you're gay, based solely on some old video someone dug up on YouTube titled "Mark Roberts, Gay Spy."I thought he was a streaker!

[timhau]

Um, dude, probably not a good time to throw stones. Your video production studio is a car.

Not only that, but it's a really crummy yellow car.

[Redtail]

The plane had a blunt nose? :eek:

Is this guy serious? The plane had a blunt nose so there was no way it could have penetrated the WTC.:jaw-dropp



I was planning to type out my scream letter for letter but theres not enough bandwidth. :(

[Jonnyclueless]

Stupid is as Stupid does. And Stupid does a lot.

[timhau]

Yeah, there's so much

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_2939474e76995b74e.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=9470)

there that it easily gets up to the rare and impressive

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_2939474e76bfe7772.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=9471)

Congratulations all around. Or not.

[Undesired Walrus]

The fact that Avery censors any no-planers shows he isn't interested in the twoof, he is just interested in his credibility. Pathetic.

[Brainster]

Actually having watched a few too many of these "talking into the camera" videos, I liked seeing it shot from inside a vehicle rather than in somebody's computer room. It is several months old; we linked it sometime this summer. I think Genghis himself had a falling out with Nico; either that or he dropped his efforts. I do remember that he was kind of thrilled that we linked it.

The no-planers are actually gaining a bit overall; the September Clues movie has pulled some (yes, of course nutty) people into their camp. Nico's done some recent videos himself, trying the Jeff Hill routine. I enjoyed watching him trying to track down Richard Gage from the AIA; while they acknowledged having him in their membership, they refused to give out any contact information. That Nico identified himself as being with "Stalker TV" might not have helped.

Of course, Nico being a nut, he accused Gage of being a "pervert" and, giggling, spelled his name "G-A-Y--No, G-A-G-E" to the AIA.

[qarnos]

Yay! An Aussie nutter!

He swears a little bit.

[scissorhands]

Where is Mr Smirky anyway?
Wasnt he supposed to be doing some radio interviews in the UK?
He seems to have gone awol in London, no mention at LCF, just as there is a conspicuous absence of any news related to the final cut.
Its nosedived, hasnt it? :)

[jhunter1163]

Where is Mr Smirky anyway?
Wasnt he supposed to be doing some radio interviews in the UK?
He seems to have gone awol in London, no mention at LCF, just as there is a conspicuous absence of any news related to the final cut.
Its nosedived, hasnt it? :)

Sank without a ripple, is more like it.

[qarnos]

Sank without a ripple, is more like it.

If this were Olympic diving, he'd get a perfect 10.

[Mancman]

If this were Olympic diving, he'd get a perfect 10.

If this were an IQ test, he'd get a 10.

[cyclonic]

TRUTHER WARS ON YOUTUBE.
Anthony lawson, the creator of wtc7 and september clues busted, has posted a youtube version of september clues busted on youtube and is debating the no planers, even simon shack (creator of september clues) has made a comment.
i like twoofer wars!:)

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=B6jS2Ah22us

[Drudgewire]

TRUTHER WARS ON YOUTUBE.
Anthony lawson, the creator of wtc7 and september clues busted, has posted a youtube version of september clues busted on youtube and is debating the no planers, even simon shack (creator of september clues) has made a comment.
i like twoofer wars!:)
Certainly the only time I wish any of them were armed. :D

[AMTMAN]

He looks like Bill Nye.


THANK YOU!!!! I was trying to figure out who he looked like but couln't put my finger on it.

[AMTMAN]

TRUTHER WARS ON YOUTUBE.
Anthony lawson, the creator of wtc7 and september clues busted, has posted a youtube version of september clues busted on youtube and is debating the no planers, even simon shack (creator of september clues) has made a comment.
i like twoofer wars!:)

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=B6jS2Ah22us

It is fun watching them go at it.

[Hyperviolet]

:dl:

The fact that he made this video in his motor just makes it infinitely better.

[jaydeehess]

Yay! An Aussie nutter!

He swears a little bit.

A little bit???

Seems he has one, oh so very favorite, word in the whole wide world.

[jaydeehess]

:dl:

The fact that he made this video in his motor just makes it infinitely better.

My guess, it does triple duty as a car, a studio and a home.

[qarnos]

:dl:

The fact that he made this video in his motor just makes it infinitely better.

Hey, honey. I'm just going outside to uh.... wash the car.

With a video camera?

....um... yeah.

[Drudgewire]

Seems he has one, oh so very favorite, word in the whole wide world.
It is a pretty useful word. :)

[Unsecured Coins]

Hey, honey. I'm [rule 10]ing going outside to uh [rule 10]ing.... wash the [rule 10]ing car.

With a video camera?

....um...[rule 10]ing yeah.


fixed

[Jonnyclueless]

Hold on, his office is double-parked.

[jaydeehess]

It is a pretty useful word. :)

Yeah, after the third usage, at least, I got it. He's angry.:rolleyes:

[leftysergeant]

I'm still trying to persuade the Web Fairy ring to all get together and test their theorry about how a softer material like aluminum cannot penetrate a harder one like steel.

The simplest test would be to see if a wad of cotton, loaded in place of a .44 mag bullet, could penetrate a human skull. I would suggest they try it out on each other, then report back here what they get.

It would be the last we hear of WF, KT, bsregistration, Jeff Hill or Rumpl4skn, I would say.

[alexg]

I don't know if this has been pointed out but it appears this Ghengis dude has his own no plane video 'coming soon', LOL, called "911 Taboo". He's got a teaser up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr5hpuScbr8

Oh yea, he's looking for a backer. LOL

[CptColumbo]

"Wow, you guys are on a completely different level of swearing over [t]here."

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

Shhhh! The Truthers at the LC Forum actually seem to think you're gay, based solely on some old video someone dug up on YouTube titled "Mark Roberts, Gay Spy."
I want to see that video!!!!

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

I'm still trying to persuade the Web Fairy ring to all get together and test their theorry about how a softer material like aluminum cannot penetrate a harder one like steel.

The simplest test would be to see if a wad of cotton, loaded in place of a .44 mag bullet, could penetrate a human skull. I would suggest they try it out on each other, then report back here what they get.

It would be the last we hear of WF, KT, bsregistration, Jeff Hill or Rumpl4skn, I would say.
What??? I can't believe you would advocate violence against another person. I guess you are skeptics though... I shouldn't expect otherwise.

Tell me something though, if one of them made a similar statement about you, or about Lord Roberts, how exactly would you spin that?

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

He says about Avery, "You're a nobody, mate."

Um, dude, probably not a good time to throw stones. Your video production studio is a car.

About the aircraft hitting the buildings: "The body should have crumpled a little bit." :eye-poppi
Hmmm...

Shouldn't the aircraft have "crumpled even a little bit"?

[leftysergeant]

I am merely suggesting that they are dangerous morons, and that their pet theory about the ability of aluminum to penetrate stell is a total pile of compost.

Any of them that try it will simply be collecting a Darwin award.

Better they hurt themselves than innocent by-standers. It may actually come to that. There are a lot of violent revolutionaries, some of them of a particularly vile sort, playing the twoofers like a fiddle. Psychopaths like Genghis may actually be a threat to the future of human civilization.

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

Genghis is ill. They are all fairly ill.
That's mature...

I expected you guys to be debunk the facts rather than resort to ad hom attacks against the theorist.

With this kind of rhetoric, I almost thought I was at the LOOSE CHANGE FORUM!!!!

[leftysergeant]

Hmmm...

Shouldn't the aircraft have "crumpled even a little bit"?

It did, somewhat, just aft of the point of impact. At that speed, though, the steel would have to crumple more. Once it had penetrated, why would it crumple before it hit another obstacle?

[DGM]

Hmmm...

Shouldn't the aircraft have "crumpled even a little bit"?
Didn't it?

[Gravy]

Hmmm...

Shouldn't the aircraft have "crumpled even a little bit"?Please watch the video so that your comments are in context. He's suggesting that that's the worst that should have happened to the planes.

[scissorhands]

Its a fair enough experiment, lefty.
Given that aluminium cannot penetrate steel, there is clearly no way that the cotton wad could possibly break through the harder material of the skull.
There might be a slight bruise but the wad should, in theory, crumple slightly and then just bounce off.

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

I've been getting a lot of no planers who've applauded my vids about Dylan.
You know I love your videos... I think they are hilarious. Especially that part where you say Mark Roberts is all around good guy.

[Gravy]

You know I love your videos... I think they are hilarious. Especially that part where you say Mark Roberts is all around good guy.Evidence that I'm not?

I asked you before to start a thread for discussion of what you believe I've gotten wrong in my 9/11 research. Please do so now, or stop whining.

Fair enough, Xena?

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

Please watch the video so that your comments are in context. He's suggesting that that's the worst that should have happened to the planes.
Perhaps you should take your own advise. I watched the video in entirety, did you?

[uk_dave]

Hmmm...

Shouldn't the aircraft have "crumpled even a little bit"?

I know what you mean. Those completely intact and 'uncrumpled' aircraft they found in the wtc debris is a real mystery.

[CptColumbo]

Does anyone else smell that? It smells like a pile of socks.

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

Evidence that I'm not?

I asked you before to start a thread for discussion of what you believe I've gotten wrong in my 9/11 research. Please do so now, or stop whining.

Fair enough, Xena?
Stop whining? I am merely responding to a thread on a forum. Am I not free to do so? Is this a skeptics only forum?

Speaking of whining Mark, you seem to be doing a very good job of that yourself. I have said that your research is driven by emotion. You want it to be true, so in your eyes it is. That is not evidence based.

But hey, you are an "all around good guy" so what do I know...

[T.A.M.]

nothing.

TAM:)

[leftysergeant]

I have watched the whole video and find the little ***** to be incompetant to make any of the claims he does. He knows diddly about aircraft crashes, and is, in fact, part of a gang of notorious no-planers, Web Fairy, Killtown, bsregistration, Jeff Hill , aka pumpitout(the notorious crank caller who will ruin anybody's day just to cause trouble,) Rumpl4skn and a few other pseudonyms that Killtown and company use to get around being banned from various forums for anti-social behavior.

Anyone who still thinks that the aircraft should have crumpled against the side of the building has never seen an aircraft gfo straight on inot a solid obstacle, and is thus ignorant of the facts.

Those who watch this video and still think that the planes should have crumpled have crossed the line between ignorant and stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LRBHqJI40k

[Par]

Does anyone else smell that? It smells like a pile of socks.


I was thinking something similar, as it happens.

[Par]

I have said that your research is driven by emotion. You want it to be true, so in your eyes it is. That is not evidence based.


Well, pointing out exactly what he gets wrong should be a trivial exercise then.

[Gravy]

Stop whining? I am merely responding to a thread on a forum. Am I not free to do so? Is this a skeptics only forum?

Speaking of whining Mark, you seem to be doing a very good job of that yourself. I have said that your research is driven by emotion. You want it to be true, so in your eyes it is. That is not evidence based.

But hey, you are an "all around good guy" so what do I know...Yawn. Put up or shut up, Xena. Shall I start that thread, or will you be an adult and do so?

[Unsecured Coins]

Does anyone else smell that? It smells like a pile of socks.


she's not a sock. I know this poster.

[A W Smith]

Hmmm...

Shouldn't the aircraft have "crumpled even a little bit"?

No

[A W Smith]

That's mature...

I expected you guys to be debunk the facts rather than resort to ad hom attacks against the theorist.

With this kind of rhetoric, I almost thought I was at the LOOSE CHANGE FORUM!!!!

What facts?

[AMTMAN]

Hmmm...

Shouldn't the aircraft have "crumpled even a little bit"?

Shouldn't those birds have "cumpled" just a little bit?

< http://www.airdisaster.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80113 >

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

Yawn. Put up or shut up, Xena. Shall I start that thread, or will you be an adult and do so?
I find you rather rude and disrespectful Mark Roberts. What happened to being "an all around good guy"? If I offended you by asking if the "Mark Roberts Appreciation Thread" was a joke, then I apologize.

As far as starting a new thread, go for it Mark. I have no intention of wasting my time debunking your debunking though. I am an activist, not a researcher. What is important is that you enjoy your efforts and feel that you are making a positive contribution to society. What difference does it make if I like your work or think that it is driven by emotion? If you insist, however, I would be happy to review any research you send me and provide a thoughtful and objective critique. Do keep in my that I work full time and have a life.

If you are going to start the thread though, how about you title it " The Mark Roberts Depreciation Thread?"

[Drudgewire]

I find you rather rude and disrespectful Mark Roberts. What happened to being "an all around good guy"? If I offended you by asking if the "Mark Roberts Appreciation Thread" was a joke, then I apologize.
Put up or shut up is not an insult or being rude, it's just an expression.

And, true to twoofer form, you use your phony righteous indignation to be able to keep responding without actually addressing the question/task put before you... which is "what has Gravy gotten wrong/start a thread listing his mistakes."

And yeah, dodging those the way you have while trying to claim the moral high ground is indeed childish.

[A W Smith]

took Xena four days to think of a way to skirt the issue

[Sword_Of_Truth]

As far as starting a new thread, go for it Mark. I have no intention of wasting my time debunking your debunking though. I am an activist, not a researcher.

So you don't do any research of your own? You don't look things up for yourself when someone makes an outrageous claim? Some wanker spends several hours looking at neo-nazi websites, comes up to you and says "9-11 was an inside job." and you just picked that up and ran with it?

Could you be more reckless and irresponsible?

[Unsecured Coins]

how about this... cause watching this unfold is like watching two of my friends asking me to beat the other one up...

someone, anyone, I don't give a rat's infected testicle who does.. but there needs to be at LEAST a thread started where Xena says "Mark, i think you are wrong on Point X" and then Gravy comes along and presents his case. Xena takes said info and presents a counter argument with her supporting case. and so on and so forth until at the very end they agree to disagree (which is what's going to happen anyway) and we do it all without name calling, questioning one's mental capacity, sexual orientaion, job, or accusing one of recreational drug use.

I like Xena, I like Gravy, and I recommend this simply because I refuse to take sides just because one doesn't like the other

[jhunter1163]

I've started a thread inviting Truthers to show me any factual error Mark has made. Any at all. Just "Mark said X, but the truth is Y, and here's the proof."

I also warned them that anything they post will be checked for accuracy and context. We'll see what happens.

[Mince]

He looks like Bill Nye.


http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0105/nye.gif



or


http://www.idiotsite.com/WLWiki/images/a/a0/Stilesr.jpg

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

took Xena four days to think of a way to skirt the issue
Are you serious???

Some of us have to work for a living...

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

Could you be more reckless and irresponsible?
Yes, actually I could be more reckless and irresponsible...

I could be a SKEPTIC!!!!

[Redtail]

Yes, actually I could be more reckless and irresponsible...

I could be a SKEPTIC!!!!

So you are a sheep?

[XenaWarriorPrincess]

how about this... cause watching this unfold is like watching two of my friends asking me to beat the other one up...

someone, anyone, I don't give a rat's infected testicle who does.. but there needs to be at LEAST a thread started where Xena says "Mark, i think you are wrong on Point X" and then Gravy comes along and presents his case. Xena takes said info and presents a counter argument with her supporting case. and so on and so forth until at the very end they agree to disagree (which is what's going to happen anyway) and we do it all without name calling, questioning one's mental capacity, sexual orientaion, job, or accusing one of recreational drug use.

I like Xena, I like Gravy, and I recommend this simply because I refuse to take sides just because one doesn't like the other

I like you too.... you are my favorite skeptic ever!!! And this point, you will be the only skeptic I ever respect. :(

[LashL]

how about this... cause watching this unfold is like watching two of my friends asking me to beat the other one up...

someone, anyone, I don't give a rat's infected testicle who does.. but there needs to be at LEAST a thread started where Xena says "Mark, i think you are wrong on Point X" and then Gravy comes along and presents his case. Xena takes said info and presents a counter argument with her supporting case. and so on and so forth until at the very end they agree to disagree (which is what's going to happen anyway) and we do it all without name calling, questioning one's mental capacity, sexual orientaion, job, or accusing one of recreational drug use.

I like Xena, I like Gravy, and I recommend this simply because I refuse to take sides just because one doesn't like the other

My sympathies to you, UC, for being involved with X in some way and the dilemma that you seem to think you face, but it is obvious that he/she has brought absolutely nothing to the table and has said nothing of substance whatsoever, so expecting Mark (or anyone else) to get into a debate with him/her is ridiculous.

The evidence, being X's posts to date, indicates that X is incapable of presenting anything even remotely resembling facts or evidence, and incapable of even presenting an argument, so what on earth do you expect Mark (or anyone else, for that matter) to respond to?

X doesn't seem to know what an argument is, doesn't seem to know what debate is, and doesn't seem to be able to even buy a clue.

X has not presented anything at all of substance to date, hasn't even presented a point of view or an opinion, let alone a fact, but has only sniped at Mark and others, without ever offering a single point of discussion that involves any facts whatsoever.

While I sympathize in light of your friendship with X, I can't see how that should or would result in serious and intelligent people wasting their time trying to engage in a serious debate with someone who can't even state a claim or put forward a position.

[leftysergeant]

Killtwon is an obvious sociopath, as evidenced in his treatment of Val McCaltchey, and now, I have recieved evidence that he is a Holocaust denier and an anti-Zionist. That alone does not make him a Nazi, but, if he mentions Mossad as a possible actor in the events of 9/11, he joins the ranks of those blaming our misfortunes on "der ewige Jude." He would thus be aligning himself with the people I would eventually have to hunt down and "neutralize" should there be any attempt to overthrow the existing social order.

Should the full-dress RaHoWa come to pass, they must be neutralized with extreme prejudice, for the good of humanity.

Once was one bloody time too many.

[leftysergeant]

Just to follow up, it seems that genghis has taken note of our comments. I will let someone more familiar with the Aussie dialect comment on his comments. I can't really make out much of what he is saying. Is that because he is babbling or because I don't comprehend what he is saying?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-5LXbLH5_I

If anyone does care to respond directly to him, I would recommend a bit of tact. This may be one very fragile personality.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Yes, actually I could be more reckless and irresponsible...

I could be a SKEPTIC!!!!

Ah yes... the "I know you are but what am I" defense. I used that one many a time myself.


Back in kindergarten. :p

[scissorhands]

Just to follow up, it seems that genghis has taken note of our comments. I will let someone more familiar with the Aussie dialect comment on his comments. I can't really make out much of what he is saying. Is that because he is babbling or because I don't comprehend what he is saying?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-5LXbLH5_I

If anyone does care to respond directly to him, I would recommend a bit of tact. This may be one very fragile personality.

Hes clearly hurt by people suggesting he may be a deluded and rather sad person who spams his insanity on youtube from his little car studio.
I feel really bad for starting this thread now.
:)

[peteweaver]

Hard to tell if he's serious, but that's what he said.

He also said that "bullets have sharp points" and are "solid objects," and that's why they can blast through steel. Oy vey.

One of the better steel-destroying rounds available to an ordinary civilian is this little number (http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/product/0016697212291a.shtml), which as you can see, is neither sharp nor solid, though admittedly it is more solid than an airplane. I've seen these penetrate a full inch of steel at 200 meters, where their impact velocity was roughly equal to that of UA175...

So why does it work? Why this bullet, and not others? Easy. Lots of momentum. Sectional density (e.g. small cross-section) helps, but there's no substitute for raw momentum. A blob of Jell-O equal in size and speed to the aircraft would have sheared perimeter columns, no matter what mentally unstable videographers working from the inside of an estate wagon may tell you.

In 1991, i went on a school trip to a science lecture at York University on explosives and luminescence, at one point the lecturer demonstrated a musket, loaded it with a plumbers wax candle and proceeded to fire it at a target, which had several bricks, two breeze blocks and three pieces of wood behind it, it got all the way to the last piece of wood. Forward momentum & sectional density... Powerful stuff.

[Drudgewire]

I like you too.... you are my favorite skeptic ever!!! And this point, you will be the only skeptic I ever respect. :(
How will the rest of us ever be able to look ourselves in the mirror again? :rolleyes:

[Magenta]

Just to follow up, it seems that genghis has taken note of our comments. I will let someone more familiar with the Aussie dialect comment on his comments. I can't really make out much of what he is saying. Is that because he is babbling or because I don't comprehend what he is saying?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-5LXbLH5_I

If anyone does care to respond directly to him, I would recommend a bit of tact. This may be one very fragile personality.


I watched it and understood OK what he was saying. While I think personal attacks are tedious and unproductive, if he’s going to complain about it he needs to mind his own manners. I only watched a little bit of his Dylan Avery video because I was put off by the constant repetition of the f-word. If he’s a no-planer I won’t be setting aside time to watch his other videos any time soon.

And I think he’s going a little overboard on the paranoia with the bit about being blocked from JREF.

[NYCEMT86]

I know its been awhile since I have posted on this forum and have been away from checking up on the twoof movement, but I am glad to see the loons are still loony.

Either kicked out by the Mrs. or the basement flooded.

I strongly believe he is living out of car, stealing wireless where ever he can.

[Magenta]

I know its been awhile since I have posted on this forum and have been away from checking up on the twoof movement, but I am glad to see the loons are still loony.

Either kicked out by the Mrs. or the basement flooded.

I strongly believe he is living out of car, stealing wireless where ever he can.


If you can be bothered watching the video linked in my post above, he explains why he was filming in his car.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

*sigh* They're so stupid it hurts. :(

From that youtube thread:

Me:Listen, you syphilitic whore. (ed. I am slightly more diplomatic than Troy From WV when I get rolling)

There is nothing "strangely" massive about 140 tons.

A 140 ton WATER BALLOON traveling at 500 miles per hour would have smashed a huge hole in the side of that building.

In fact, engineers from Perdue University showed that the mass of the fuel in the aircrafts wings contributed substantially to the physical damage of the impacts.

yohrdzayr:
AHAHAHHA

NO, IT WOULD NOT!!! your water balloon would explode and rain all over the streets bellow ...ahahah uuh, maybe the same way we would expect to what should have happened to a plane!
but, besides... what the **** are you fighting for? that ridiculous official theory? this government that is *********** you? the liars? ...ok go pay your taxes, and watch to your FOXes n CNNs ...you deserve it

Someone needs to be hit with a 140 ton water balloon. :p

[Slayhamlet]

*sigh* They're so stupid it hurts. :(

From that youtube thread:

Me:

yohrdzayr:


Someone needs to be hit with a 140 ton water balloon. :p

I think a water balloon of equivalent size would have actually done a whole lot more damage to the building than either of the planes did.

[jhunter1163]

I think a water balloon of equivalent size would have actually done a whole lot more damage to the building than either of the planes did.

Maybe one of our math guys could calculate what the weight of a 767-sized volume of water would be. My guess would be about five times the actual mass of a 767.

Just for fun, here are the dimensions if anyone wants to have a go at it:

http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/boeing767/specs.html

[Cuddles]

Maybe one of our math guys could calculate what the weight of a 767-sized volume of water would be. My guess would be about five times the actual mass of a 767.

Just for fun, here are the dimensions if anyone wants to have a go at it:

http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/boeing767/specs.html

Assuming it's a perfect cylinder, that would make it about 480m3 = 480 tonnes of water (1 litre = 1kg, 1,000 litres in 1m3). So, a bit more than double the maximum weight of a 767.