Audible Click .... UncleYimmy .... to anyone else this applies to ....
I know I jumped into a very large pool I was not invited into. It's a public forum, but still ... it doesn't mean I shouldn't observe and understand the nature of a thing before jumping in. It's respectful to do that in order to gain perspective not just on the matter at hand, but concerning the people involved.
This is clearly a topic involving people and events over a long period of time that has deep roots, strong reactions, and lots and lots of words, thoughts, feelings, baggage, ideas, etc attached to it.
I understand that ... and it's not my intention to poke at the water for "fun" or troll in this section and spout out b.s. for a laugh. I'm assuming there are those that take it seriously and there are those that don't ... and that's cool. As long as I continue to swim in this pool, I'll try to see and understand who those are that take it seriously and those that are just here eating popcorn watching and I'll try to understand the various boundaries involved. It's not "my fight", although I'm obviously outspoken and analyzing it away into the sunset for my own reasons.
I'm getting the idea that there are politics, religion and VFF in this part of the world

So if I've disrespected someone, that wasn't my intention. The last thing I want to do is cause pissing matches and whatnot, as I've never seen any benefit come from that. They turn into endless back and forth posting with generally no point. So I'm hoping that if I cross someone's boundaries or push a personal button you'll let me know and I will try and respect that. For what it's worth, it is those boundaries in particular concerning a topic that I find the most interesting, and that is one reason I try to find them. For me, that is the "line of scrimmage" for any topic where the topic breaks down and all hell breaks lose

That is why I like to examine it. I think it might be beneficial in this topic, but that's just imho. But not everyone is like that, and trying to push others there as I bound along isn't fair ... not if I'm going to respect those involved. So if you see me pushing you along and you don't like it ... let me know. I'm not into pointing out fallacies and all that usually, because I know when personal feelings are attached those things are often more divisive than resolving an issue.
Anyway, I'm obviously trying to pick a unique side in this that may or may not even be relevant to anything. I am still feeling out how serious I want to take the side at all. I will try to be civil and not start a "third side war" since the idea of such a late comer starting a war is ridiculous in the first place. So I would obviously appreciate respect in return as I try to give it, and again ... if you feel as though I've disrespected you let me know. And that's really what I'm trying to explain with this post ... I want to respect those involved if I can, for what that's worth ...