Soviet's long distance hypnosis

Maxell · 8th October 2003, 02:34 PM

What you think these russians experiments, where people was hypnotised at long distance?

Is it just feeling little a un-natural? Or is it just another hoax stories?

http://www.rvscience.com/crystal/amplifier.htm

The technique of remote influencing was developed from 'Sleep-Wake hypnosis' which was discovered by the Russians in the 1930s; it being the ability to hypnotise people from a distance. 'Sleep-Wake Hypnosis' allowed a hypnotist to transfer hypnotic commands telepathically to a subject, whether they were a few feet, or even a thousand mile away. Remote influencing is the basis of hypnosis. A Ukrainian, Albert Ignatenko demonstrated (on the Paranormal World of Paul McKenna, ITV UK) that he could raise or lower the pulse rate of people who were remote from him. This was a dramatic demonstration of remote influencing. This technique was developed from the methodology where Russian remote influencers were trained to stop the hearts of test animals. The ability to hypnotise people at a distance and plant suggestions in their brains enabled the Russians to remotely influence their enemies. Years of research along these lines led to the development of the remote killing ability, the power to make your enemy drop dead by telepathic means. Vladimir Zironosvky, taunted the West by stating on BBC television, that Russia had psychics who could remotely kill anyone up to a thousand kilometres away. Russian boasts that they could remotely kill anyone may indeed be based on fact!

LeFevre · 8th October 2003, 07:32 PM

Technical Remote Viewing, Technical Remote Influencing, Spiritual Remote Viewing, Spiritual Remote Influencing (I havent heard of this one. . . yet) are to my knowledge empty claims. They remind me of Scientology, hooey built on hooey again and again.

SteveGrenard · 8th October 2003, 07:52 PM

Apparently at one time the US Military took Soviet and Eastern Bloc research in this area quite seriously (cold war era).

The Defense Intelligence Agency has two declassified reports on its FOIA site.

One is on Warsaw Pact Countries Paraphysics Research prepared by the
U.S. Air Force/Air Force Systems Command/ Foreign Technology Division and the other on Soviet and Czech Parapsych Research prepared by the Army Medical Intelligence Branch.

I came across these because on this same site are two important publications on the venomous snakes of the Middle East and of Europe which I deal with in my other life.

You can find these documents including a terrible copy of a two part UFO report on the DIA's FOIA website as pdfs as well:

http://www.dia.mil/Public/Foia/

The refs are:
Paraphysics R&D - Warsaw Pact. (PDF file size: 3.8 MB) U.S. Air Force

Soviet and Czechoslovakian Parapsychology Research. (PDF file size: 4.2 MB) Army Medical Intelligence Branch

CFLarsen · 8th October 2003, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SteveGrenard
Apparently at one time the US Military took Soviet and Eastern Bloc research in this area quite seriously (cold war era).

And....why did they take it "seriously"? Cold war thinking: "If the rooskies are looking into it, we'd better, too."

The key question is: What was found?

The key answer is: Nothing.

CFLarsen · 12th March 2006, 01:19 PM

Bump for Steve.

Gee, memories... Ain't they great?

T'ai Chi · 12th March 2006, 01:37 PM

*bump* so people can learn all about forum soap operas from 2003

CFLarsen · 12th March 2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by T'ai Chi

*bump* so people can learn all about forum soap operas from 2003

Unsolved issues.

You have a problem with that?

Ersby · 13th March 2006, 01:39 AM

Okay, I give in. Why all this bumping of old posts with Steve Grenard in?

Mongrel · 13th March 2006, 06:46 AM

From checking his profile he's come back after a two year break, CFLarsen still has a number of unanswered questions and T'ai Chi sems to be trying to stir up trouble

T'ai Chi · 13th March 2006, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Mongrel

From checking his profile he's come back after a two year break, CFLarsen still has a number of unanswered questions and T'ai Chi sems to be trying to stir up trouble

I just want to update everyone on 2003, because it is so important!!

Mojo · 13th March 2006, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by T'ai Chi

I just want to update everyone on 2003, because it is so important!!

That doesn't explain why you're posting in threads that Claus has just bumped himself.

T'ai Chi · 13th March 2006, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

That doesn't explain why you're posting in threads that Claus has just bumped himself.

Cuz they're so important. Need to give them an extra bump becuase of their importance.

Mojo · 13th March 2006, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Mongrel

T'ai Chi seems to be trying to stir up trouble

Yup.

blutoski · 13th March 2006, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

And....why did they take it "seriously"? Cold war thinking: "If the rooskies are looking into it, we'd better, too."

The key question is: What was found?

The key answer is: Nothing.

And *why* did the Soviets leak information about these programs? Because they weren't really doing them, and every penny NATO spent chasing down ridiculous rumours was money diverted from real programs.

There's always somebody in a position of influence who should know better, but prefers to leave no stone unturned: psychic assassins, remote viewers, remote hypnotists... better safe than sorry.

Doesn't Geller claim he worked for the CIA as a telepath, deleting hard-drive contents from afar?

CFLarsen · 13th March 2006, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Mongrel

From checking his profile he's come back after a two year break

Yes.

Originally Posted by Mongrel

CFLarsen still has a number of unanswered questions

Yes.

Originally Posted by Mongrel

and T'ai Chi sems to be trying to stir up trouble

Yes.

Bronze Dog · 13th March 2006, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by CFLarsen

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

"Is that all you say?" -Flynn

Mojo · 13th March 2006, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by BronzeDog

"Is that all you say?" -Flynn

"That would be an ecumenical matter." - Father Jack Hackett

8th October 2003, 02:34 PM	#1
Maxell New Blood Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 9	Soviet's long distance hypnosis What you think these russians experiments, where people was hypnotised at long distance? Is it just feeling little a un-natural? Or is it just another hoax stories? http://www.rvscience.com/crystal/amplifier.htm The technique of remote influencing was developed from 'Sleep-Wake hypnosis' which was discovered by the Russians in the 1930s; it being the ability to hypnotise people from a distance. 'Sleep-Wake Hypnosis' allowed a hypnotist to transfer hypnotic commands telepathically to a subject, whether they were a few feet, or even a thousand mile away. Remote influencing is the basis of hypnosis. A Ukrainian, Albert Ignatenko demonstrated (on the Paranormal World of Paul McKenna, ITV UK) that he could raise or lower the pulse rate of people who were remote from him. This was a dramatic demonstration of remote influencing. This technique was developed from the methodology where Russian remote influencers were trained to stop the hearts of test animals. The ability to hypnotise people at a distance and plant suggestions in their brains enabled the Russians to remotely influence their enemies. Years of research along these lines led to the development of the remote killing ability, the power to make your enemy drop dead by telepathic means. Vladimir Zironosvky, taunted the West by stating on BBC television, that Russia had psychics who could remotely kill anyone up to a thousand kilometres away. Russian boasts that they could remotely kill anyone may indeed be based on fact!
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8th October 2003, 07:32 PM	#2
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8th October 2003, 07:52 PM	#3
SteveGrenard Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wherever the airline sends my luggage Posts: 5,528	Apparently at one time the US Military took Soviet and Eastern Bloc research in this area quite seriously (cold war era). The Defense Intelligence Agency has two declassified reports on its FOIA site. One is on Warsaw Pact Countries Paraphysics Research prepared by the U.S. Air Force/Air Force Systems Command/ Foreign Technology Division and the other on Soviet and Czech Parapsych Research prepared by the Army Medical Intelligence Branch. I came across these because on this same site are two important publications on the venomous snakes of the Middle East and of Europe which I deal with in my other life. You can find these documents including a terrible copy of a two part UFO report on the DIA's FOIA website as pdfs as well: http://www.dia.mil/Public/Foia/ The refs are: Paraphysics R&D - Warsaw Pact. (PDF file size: 3.8 MB) U.S. Air Force Soviet and Czechoslovakian Parapsychology Research. (PDF file size: 4.2 MB) Army Medical Intelligence Branch
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8th October 2003, 08:52 PM	#4
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Quote: Originally posted by SteveGrenard Apparently at one time the US Military took Soviet and Eastern Bloc research in this area quite seriously (cold war era). And....why did they take it "seriously"? Cold war thinking: "If the rooskies are looking into it, we'd better, too." The key question is: What was found? The key answer is: Nothing.
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12th March 2006, 01:19 PM	#5
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Bump for Steve. Gee, memories... Ain't they great?
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12th March 2006, 01:43 PM	#7
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by T'ai Chi bump so people can learn all about forum soap operas from 2003 Unsolved issues. You have a problem with that?
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13th March 2006, 01:39 AM	#8
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13th March 2006, 06:46 AM	#9
Mongrel Begging for Scraps Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 20 minutes in the future Posts: 1,640	From checking his profile he's come back after a two year break, CFLarsen still has a number of unanswered questions and T'ai Chi sems to be trying to stir up trouble
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13th March 2006, 06:52 AM	#10
T'ai Chi Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11,235	Originally Posted by Mongrel From checking his profile he's come back after a two year break, CFLarsen still has a number of unanswered questions and T'ai Chi sems to be trying to stir up trouble I just want to update everyone on 2003, because it is so important!!
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13th March 2006, 07:15 AM	#11
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,091	Originally Posted by T'ai Chi I just want to update everyone on 2003, because it is so important!! That doesn't explain why you're posting in threads that Claus has just bumped himself.
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13th March 2006, 07:29 AM	#12
T'ai Chi Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11,235	Originally Posted by Mojo That doesn't explain why you're posting in threads that Claus has just bumped himself. Cuz they're so important. Need to give them an extra bump becuase of their importance.
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13th March 2006, 07:32 AM	#13
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,091	Originally Posted by Mongrel T'ai Chi seems to be trying to stir up trouble Yup.
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13th March 2006, 09:39 AM	#14
blutoski Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 5,985	Originally Posted by CFLarsen And....why did they take it "seriously"? Cold war thinking: "If the rooskies are looking into it, we'd better, too." The key question is: What was found? The key answer is: Nothing. And why did the Soviets leak information about these programs? Because they weren't really doing them, and every penny NATO spent chasing down ridiculous rumours was money diverted from real programs. There's always somebody in a position of influence who should know better, but prefers to leave no stone unturned: psychic assassins, remote viewers, remote hypnotists... better safe than sorry. Doesn't Geller claim he worked for the CIA as a telepath, deleting hard-drive contents from afar?

13th March 2006, 09:58 AM	#15
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	Originally Posted by Mongrel From checking his profile he's come back after a two year break Yes. Originally Posted by Mongrel CFLarsen still has a number of unanswered questions Yes. Originally Posted by Mongrel and T'ai Chi sems to be trying to stir up trouble Yes.
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