The Latest on the Field: Aldrin Saw a UFO During Apollo 11 Mission

Patricio Elicer · 9th August 2006, 10:07 PM

Really?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...25190&q=apollo

defaultdotxbe · 9th August 2006, 10:34 PM

sure, lots of astronauts see UFOs, its simply "Unidentified Flying Object" doesnt imply aliens or anything crazy, simply something you see, and dont know what it is

(this is a bit of a pet peeve of mine, people assuming UFO = aliens = area 51 = roswell = what have you.....not that you are necessarily stating this, but i just want to set the record straight

)

gtc · 9th August 2006, 10:48 PM

Labelling an alien space craft 'unidentified' just perpetuates the white man's colonial euro-centric attitudes.

Pretending that the aliens don't know perfectly well who they are may allow white men to 'boldly go where no one has gone before' but it just continues the myth of the 'other'.

defaultdotxbe · 9th August 2006, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Pretending that the aliens don't know perfectly well who they are may allow white men to 'boldly go where no one has gone before' but it just continues the myth of the 'other'.

that should be "boldly go where no MAN has gone before" becuase its white MEN who will go there while the women stay home and do the laundry

(jk of course....dont hurt me abby)

Patricio Elicer · 9th August 2006, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

sure, lots of astronauts see UFOs, its simply "Unidentified Flying Object" doesnt imply aliens or anything crazy, simply something you see, and dont know what it is

[UFO nut]Yes, but did you notice Aldrin said "what could it be?". If an astronaut as famous as Aldrin can't identify an object in space, it must be an alien ship.[/UFO nut]

asmodean · 10th August 2006, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

that should be "boldly go where no MAN has gone before" becuase its white MEN who will go there while the women stay home and do the laundry

(jk of course....dont hurt me abby)

Shouldn't that be "to baldly go where no one gone before"? Only outdated, or female, star ship captains have hair after all.

Stellafane · 10th August 2006, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by asmodean

Shouldn't that be "to baldly go where no one gone before"? Only outdated, or female, star ship captains have hair after all.

ACK! Split infinitive! It should be "To go boldly where no one has gone before."

That quote has always caused me to boldly go nuts...

Greyman · 10th August 2006, 12:51 PM

In the side-bar description for the video there is a link to the below quote from NASA.

Quote:

I just talked to Buzz Aldrin on the phone, and he notes that the quotations were taken out of context and did not convey the intended meaning. After the Apollo 11 crew verified that the object they were seeing was not the SIVB upper stage, which was about 6000 miles away at that time, they concluded that they were probably seeing one of the panels from the separation of the spacecraft from the upper stage. These panels were not tracked from Earth and were likely much closer to the Apollo spacecraft. They chose not to discuss this on the open communications channel since they were concerned that their comments might be misinterpreted (as they are being now). Apparently all of this discussion about the panels was cut from the broadcast interview, thus giving the impression that they had seen a UFO.

David Morrison
NAI Senior Scientist
26 July 2006

Just thought I would archive that here for anyone not wanting to go any farther seeking information.

-Greyman

Bronze Dog · 10th August 2006, 12:55 PM

Phil knows all about it.

MilwaukeeMike · 10th August 2006, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Patricio Elicer

[UFO nut]Yes, but did you notice Aldrin said "what could it be?". If an astronaut as famous as Aldrin can't identify an object in space, it must be an alien ship.[/UFO nut]

I hope you were using sarcasm when you wrote that.

Meffy · 10th August 2006, 01:43 PM

"Boldly to go" is to be preferred. And that cigarette commercial was all screwy too.

Patricio Elicer · 10th August 2006, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Greyman

In the side-bar description for the video there is a link to the below quote from NASA.

Yes, I had already become aware of this through the Bad Astronomy website.

But guess what, UFO advocates I've been discussing the issue with on another forum don't believe Morrison, and suggest that he is lying.

Patricio Elicer · 10th August 2006, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by MilwaukeeMike

I hope you were using sarcasm when you wrote that.

I was indeed!

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9th August 2006, 10:34 PM	#2
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9th August 2006, 10:50 PM	#4
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Quote: Pretending that the aliens don't know perfectly well who they are may allow white men to 'boldly go where no one has gone before' but it just continues the myth of the 'other'. that should be "boldly go where no MAN has gone before" becuase its white MEN who will go there while the women stay home and do the laundry (jk of course....dont hurt me abby)
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9th August 2006, 11:31 PM	#5
Patricio Elicer Obsessed with Reality Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 4,350	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe sure, lots of astronauts see UFOs, its simply "Unidentified Flying Object" doesnt imply aliens or anything crazy, simply something you see, and dont know what it is [UFO nut]Yes, but did you notice Aldrin said "what could it be?". If an astronaut as famous as Aldrin can't identify an object in space, it must be an alien ship.[/UFO nut]
	__________________ "Well, I've never discussed it before on the forum, but, Patricio, you're the real reason I didn't show up at TAM I. Once I found out you were going, I cancelled all my plans, knowing that you would likely hunt me down and ask me questions about English language usage. I finally decided that I wouldn't be able to handle the pressure of your questions ..." - Mr. Skinny on 5th April 2007.

10th August 2006, 06:02 AM	#6
asmodean Turing Complete Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northern arctic tundra, second igloo on the left Posts: 672	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe that should be "boldly go where no MAN has gone before" becuase its white MEN who will go there while the women stay home and do the laundry (jk of course....dont hurt me abby) Shouldn't that be "to baldly go where no one gone before"? Only outdated, or female, star ship captains have hair after all.
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9th August 2006, 10:48 PM	#3
gtc Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the downunderverse Posts: 7,114	Labelling an alien space craft 'unidentified' just perpetuates the white man's colonial euro-centric attitudes. Pretending that the aliens don't know perfectly well who they are may allow white men to 'boldly go where no one has gone before' but it just continues the myth of the 'other'.

10th August 2006, 12:38 PM	#7
Stellafane Village Idiot. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Green Mountains Posts: 6,266	Originally Posted by asmodean Shouldn't that be "to baldly go where no one gone before"? Only outdated, or female, star ship captains have hair after all. ACK! Split infinitive! It should be "To go boldly where no one has gone before." That quote has always caused me to boldly go nuts...

10th August 2006, 12:51 PM	#8
Greyman Scholar Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA Posts: 70	In the side-bar description for the video there is a link to the below quote from NASA. Quote: I just talked to Buzz Aldrin on the phone, and he notes that the quotations were taken out of context and did not convey the intended meaning. After the Apollo 11 crew verified that the object they were seeing was not the SIVB upper stage, which was about 6000 miles away at that time, they concluded that they were probably seeing one of the panels from the separation of the spacecraft from the upper stage. These panels were not tracked from Earth and were likely much closer to the Apollo spacecraft. They chose not to discuss this on the open communications channel since they were concerned that their comments might be misinterpreted (as they are being now). Apparently all of this discussion about the panels was cut from the broadcast interview, thus giving the impression that they had seen a UFO. David Morrison NAI Senior Scientist 26 July 2006 Just thought I would archive that here for anyone not wanting to go any farther seeking information. -Greyman

10th August 2006, 12:55 PM	#9
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10th August 2006, 01:04 PM	#10
MilwaukeeMike Muse Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Plains of Oblivion Posts: 793	Originally Posted by Patricio Elicer [UFO nut]Yes, but did you notice Aldrin said "what could it be?". If an astronaut as famous as Aldrin can't identify an object in space, it must be an alien ship.[/UFO nut] I hope you were using sarcasm when you wrote that.

10th August 2006, 01:43 PM	#11
Meffy Anthropomorphic Skunk Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Unincorporated Territory of Croatan Posts: 4,232	"Boldly to go" is to be preferred. And that cigarette commercial was all screwy too.

10th August 2006, 04:04 PM	#12
Patricio Elicer Obsessed with Reality Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 4,350	Originally Posted by Greyman In the side-bar description for the video there is a link to the below quote from NASA. Yes, I had already become aware of this through the Bad Astronomy website. But guess what, UFO advocates I've been discussing the issue with on another forum don't believe Morrison, and suggest that he is lying.
	__________________ "Well, I've never discussed it before on the forum, but, Patricio, you're the real reason I didn't show up at TAM I. Once I found out you were going, I cancelled all my plans, knowing that you would likely hunt me down and ask me questions about English language usage. I finally decided that I wouldn't be able to handle the pressure of your questions ..." - Mr. Skinny on 5th April 2007.

10th August 2006, 04:05 PM	#13
Patricio Elicer Obsessed with Reality Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 4,350	Originally Posted by MilwaukeeMike I hope you were using sarcasm when you wrote that. I was indeed!
	__________________ "Well, I've never discussed it before on the forum, but, Patricio, you're the real reason I didn't show up at TAM I. Once I found out you were going, I cancelled all my plans, knowing that you would likely hunt me down and ask me questions about English language usage. I finally decided that I wouldn't be able to handle the pressure of your questions ..." - Mr. Skinny on 5th April 2007.