Just Asking Question$$$!

Comsat Angel · 15th February 2007, 04:06 PM

This is a bit whimsical, I know and this thread would be nuked and myself banned if it ever appeared on the LCF, within seconds I dare say. However, I keep hearing about how the LC head apparatchiks make a (in)decent living from their swill and wondered the following:
1) How much income have they got from LC in it's various incarnations?
2) Of that income, how much is profit?
3) How much has been donated to charity?

I can guess the answer to 3) is $0.00. The others - YMMV

Alareth · 15th February 2007, 04:12 PM

Dylan seems to think that giving away free DVD's to the families of victims to be enough charity.

Oliver · 15th February 2007, 04:17 PM

Sales of DVD's and Fanarticles:
~1,500,000 $

Investments:
~15,000 $

Donations:
~500 $

beachnut · 15th February 2007, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Comsat Angel

This is a bit whimsical, I know and this thread would be nuked and myself banned if it ever appeared on the LCF, within seconds I dare say. However, I keep hearing about how the LC head apparatchiks make a (in)decent living from their swill and wondered the following:
1) How much income have they got from LC in it's various incarnations?
2) Of that income, how much is profit?
3) How much has been donated to charity?

I can guess the answer to 3) is $0.00. The others - YMMV

Go to the library this saturday and log in, get email account, log on to LCF and ask the question, take PrintScrn, save the file, and you will have a record of being banned on LCF.

The list is long of banned people.

I think they have made over a million, and they tour around drinking beer, flying, and are now trying to make more money if they can. It is ironic they are making money with no facts on 9/11.

They are good capitalist, hope they pay their taxes or they will be joining that nut case in NH. Or be like the Blade actor.

Loss Leader · 15th February 2007, 04:37 PM

You know, there is a way to think about their money that might make you feel better: People pay for a commodity partially based on how rare it is. Dylan's consumers are people who want to see something that says that 9/11 was a government conspiracy. Well, they can look around but all they'll mainly find is a market flooded with things that say that 9/11 was a Muslim extremist conspiracy. When they do find something that agrees with their paranoid world-view, they are so grateful that they are willing to pay very nicely to hear it.

The fact that the truth is free and the lies cost money is just more evidence that the audience for the liars is very, very small.

pvt1863 · 15th February 2007, 08:36 PM

Sometimes I wonder if I could set up a paypal account and then go around to all the truther sites saying "donate money so I can spread the truth about 9/11!" Then I could take the money out of the paypal account and use it to buy a better computer. Then I could spend five minutes every day debunking truthers.

Coritani · 15th February 2007, 09:03 PM

A while ago, Dylan said he'd donate money to the 9/11 victims, the money coming from LC:FC. He said something along the likes of 'I'll give more money than the makers of United 93 and World Trade Center did, which is precisely 0$"

We showed him that the makers of United 93 and W.T.C donated about $1.4 Million (IIRC) altogether, and we told him that we'd hold him to his pledge. All skeptics who posted on the matter were banned from his forum - some within minutes.

I seriously doubt that Dylan Avery and co. even care about the victims. Especially since parts of the movement he affiliates himself with say that the victims of 9/11 were in on 9/11.

Totovader · 15th February 2007, 09:09 PM

On a similar note- has anyone come across anything for Alex Jones' enterprise? I've been looking very hard for a good year or so on what kind of profits his movies, talks, and appearances generate- but I can't find anything conclusive.

A lot of his stuff goes back to his daddy- which is apparently why he started his whole anti-government trip: his dad got in trouble for tax evasion. That's about as far as I can get, though. I'd be interested in knowing if CT's care about how much money he makes off them... but I doubt it would make a difference.

The Silver Shadow · 15th February 2007, 09:09 PM

When you see the videos of him going to the families of victims of 9/11 and he says that he's going to give a free DVD, what is he thinking? The film promotes that the victims were in on it and yet he's sympathetic to them...

Quad4_72 · 15th February 2007, 09:13 PM

Is it possible that Avery and Bermas don't believe in the conspiracy whatsoever and are really just in it for the money?

The Silver Shadow · 15th February 2007, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Quad4_72

Is it possible that Avery and Bermas don't believe in the conspiracy whatsoever and are really just in it for the money?

That theory has been debated endlessly! I am part of the camp that believes that they are in it because of the money because of the nasty e-mails he sends to me when I mention that he's in it for the money. It comes off as a sort of "I'm not in it for the money, now stop asking me questions"

Quad4_72 · 15th February 2007, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Silver Shadow

That theory has been debated endlessly! I am part of the camp that believes that they are in it because of the money because of the nasty e-mails he sends to me when I mention that he's in it for the money. It comes off as a sort of "I'm not in it for the money, now stop asking me questions"

I am honestly starting to think that is the most plausible theory. They don't believe a word of the drivel. In fact, I am going to start a thread about it.

Pardalis · 15th February 2007, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Oliver

Donations:
~500 $

Much of this would be donations to the Truth movement, of course...

Orphia Nay · 15th February 2007, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Alareth

Dylan seems to think that giving away free DVD's to the families of victims to be enough charity.

Yes, ripping open scars on the basis of incredulous questions is very helpful. NOT!!!!

OMGturt1es · 16th February 2007, 05:59 AM

i think he's in it just to create a forum from which he can ban users.

VespaGuy · 16th February 2007, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Comsat Angel

This is a bit whimsical, I know and this thread would be nuked and myself banned if it ever appeared on the LCF, within seconds I dare say. However, I keep hearing about how the LC head apparatchiks make a (in)decent living from their swill and wondered the following:
1) How much income have they got from LC in it's various incarnations?
2) Of that income, how much is profit?
3) How much has been donated to charity?

I can guess the answer to 3) is $0.00. The others - YMMV

I brought this up a while back:

In one of Dylan's earlier "ego" videos (the ones where we get to see hours of Dylan and co. doing mundane things in preparation for the 9/11 anniversary at Ground Zero), there was a scene where Dylan, Korey, and Bermas all drive their four-wheelers as they mug for the camera.

Now, I hate to speculate like a CT, but wasn't Dylan sleeping on people's couches and delivering pizzas just last year? Didn't he say that he had no money? I don't think that I'm going out on a limb when I speculate that Dylan and the Looser crew bought those ATVs with some of their new found money.

What's funny to me is that the idiots that worship Dylan are watching the LTW ego videos and thinking what a great asset Dylan is for the movement. But they don't even uunderstand how he's rubbing it right in their faces how stupid they are; "Hey look at me on my new ATV that YOU paid for when you bought my stupid DVD. Next year I want a BMW, so I'm making a 'real' movie. Please come see it!!"

jaydeehess · 16th February 2007, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by VespaGuy

What's funny to me is that the idiots that worship Dylan are watching the LTW ego videos and thinking what a great asset Dylan is for the movement. But they don't even uunderstand how he's rubbing it right in their faces how stupid they are; "Hey look at me on my new ATV that YOU paid for when you bought my stupid DVD. Next year I want a BMW, so I'm making a 'real' movie. Please come see it!!"

Isn't that ever so familiar though.

Does anyone remember the televangalists the Bakers(Jim and Tammy-Fae).

they lived large and flaunted it but many people still believed that they were doing the Lord's work, oh yeah and Praise Jesus.

True believers are often blinded by faith.

Loss Leader · 16th February 2007, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by VespaGuy

But they don't even uunderstand how he's rubbing it right in their faces how stupid they are; "Hey look at me on my new ATV that YOU paid for when you bought my stupid DVD. Next year I want a BMW, so I'm making a 'real' movie. Please come see it!!"

That's exactly how I feel when I see pictures of George Lucas on that stupid ranch. Those Star Wars movies sucked. And I paid money to see all six of them.

Unsecured Coins · 16th February 2007, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Loss Leader

That's exactly how I feel when I see pictures of George Lucas on that stupid ranch. Those Star Wars movies sucked. And I paid money to see all six of them.

Did you watch the Christmas special? That's when you know you got rode hard and put away wet

~enigma~ · 16th February 2007, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins

rode hard and put away wet

How many people do you think understand what you just said?

Better yet, how many people just think you said something perverted?

jhunter1163 · 16th February 2007, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by ~enigma~

How many people do you think understand what you just said?

Better yet, how many people just think you said something perverted?

Says the guy with the crotch-grabbing stormtrooper avatar.

Redtail · 16th February 2007, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

Isn't that ever so familiar though.

Does anyone remember the televangalists the Bakers(Jim and Tammy-Fae).

they lived large and flaunted it but many people still believed that they were doing the Lord's work, oh yeah and Praise Jesus.

True believers are often blinded by faith.

Heh. I remeber one of those guys (can't remeber if itwas Baker Swagert, Roberts, whomever) saying that God was going to kill him if people didn't send him donations totaling 10 mil.

jhunter1163 · 16th February 2007, 05:38 PM

That was Oral Roberts. That was about the funniest thing I ever heard.. God putting the arm on ol' Oral. The sad thing was that people sent in the money. *sigh*

~enigma~ · 16th February 2007, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

Says the guy with the crotch-grabbing stormtrooper avatar.

I rode it really hard

~enigma~ · 16th February 2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Redtail

Heh. I remeber one of those guys (can't remeber if itwas Baker Swagert, Roberts, whomever) saying that God was going to kill him if people didn't send him donations totaling 10 mil.

Oral Roberts and it was 8 million. Funny thing is he did it twice

Redtail · 16th February 2007, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

That was Oral Roberts. That was about the funniest thing I ever heard.. God putting the arm on ol' Oral. The sad thing was that people sent in the money. *sigh*

Yeah that's what got me about it. Well that and in art class I drew a picture of Jesus with a gun to Roberts' head that nearly got me kicked out of school.

ETA:

Quote:

Oral Roberts and it was 8 million. Funny thing is he did it twice

REALLY!?!?! Dang...

Unsecured Coins · 16th February 2007, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by ~enigma~

I rode it really hard

better get that thing checked

Loss Leader · 16th February 2007, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by ~enigma~

How many people do you think understand what you just said?

Better yet, how many people just think you said something perverted?

All I know is it's from Veronica Mars and it was quoted everywhere. I have no idea what it means.

~enigma~ · 16th February 2007, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Loss Leader

All I know is it's from Veronica Mars and it was quoted everywhere. I have no idea what it means.

Exactly my point. It is a somewhat regional saying.

babazaroni · 16th February 2007, 07:55 PM

Well, I thought everyone knew what 'rode hard and put away wet' meant.

It comes from riding a horse hard, then not taking care of it properly afterward and just putting it back into it's stall.

Here's a Google search

Unsecured Coins · 16th February 2007, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by babazaroni

Well, I thought everyone knew what 'rode hard and put away wet' meant.

It comes from riding a horse hard, then not taking care of it properly afterward and just putting it back into it's stall.

Here's a Google search

aaahhhhh... I thought it meant something else

VespaGuy · 19th February 2007, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by babazaroni

Well, I thought everyone knew what 'rode hard and put away wet' meant.

It comes from riding a horse hard, then not taking care of it properly afterward and just putting it back into it's stall.

Here's a Google search

[derail]

I've heard this phrase a lot. It's usually used to describe someone who is desheveled and beat-down.

[/derail]

Panoply_Prefect · 19th February 2007, 10:59 AM

I still dont get how they can make money off the film. Its free and downloadable?

SLOB

Donal · 19th February 2007, 11:16 AM

Speaking engagements.

Musicians and comedians rarely make a lot of money off their CDs and such. But live appearances are a gold mine.

gumboot · 19th February 2007, 01:21 PM

I believe DA started LC as "a bit of fun" really not comprehending what he was doing. Actually we KNOW that's how it started because he says he started it as a FICTIONAL piece.

But then actual crazy people came along and believed it. They offered to pay to get it done properly.

And here is where he made his one fatal mistake. Had he been a true filmmaker, with convictions, and a desire to express the "greater truth" about the human condition, he'd have rejected the proposal to pretend fiction was truth.

But he isn't a filmmaker. He wants to be "famous". It's like those people who want to be movie stars, not actors. So he sold out. He let his doco become fact instead of fiction. He sold his soul for some fame.

I think he knows very well that his entire documentary is garbage. I think it's obvious when he's interviewed, or issues are raised on the subject.

But imagine if he one day said "hey, it was all a lie, I'm not a truther". He can't do that. Too many people have invested too much energy in his lie. And some of them are crazy, and frankly dangerous.

He's being held hostage by his own film's popularity.

-Gumboot

negativ · 19th February 2007, 01:35 PM

That, and merchandising. Somewhere, somebody is making a pretty good haul on those black t-shirts and huuuuge banners.

Unsecured Coins · 19th February 2007, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by negativ

That, and merchandising. Somewhere, somebody is making a pretty good haul on those black t-shirts and huuuuge banners.

you mean "moich-end-izing" right?

15th February 2007, 04:06 PM	#1
Comsat Angel Muse Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 893	Just Asking Question$$$! This is a bit whimsical, I know and this thread would be nuked and myself banned if it ever appeared on the LCF, within seconds I dare say. However, I keep hearing about how the LC head apparatchiks make a (in)decent living from their swill and wondered the following: 1) How much income have they got from LC in it's various incarnations? 2) Of that income, how much is profit? 3) How much has been donated to charity? I can guess the answer to 3) is $0.00. The others - YMMV
Comsat Angel Muse Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 893

15th February 2007, 04:12 PM	#2
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,695	Dylan seems to think that giving away free DVD's to the families of victims to be enough charity.
	__________________ Pixelated Reality \| Alareth Does Art! Light travels faster than sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak

15th February 2007, 04:17 PM	#3
Oliver ~The Rascal~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne Posts: 17,369	Sales of DVD's and Fanarticles: ~1,500,000 $ Investments: ~15,000 $ Donations: ~500 $
	__________________

15th February 2007, 04:37 PM	#5
Loss Leader Opinionated Jerk Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 11,885	You know, there is a way to think about their money that might make you feel better: People pay for a commodity partially based on how rare it is. Dylan's consumers are people who want to see something that says that 9/11 was a government conspiracy. Well, they can look around but all they'll mainly find is a market flooded with things that say that 9/11 was a Muslim extremist conspiracy. When they do find something that agrees with their paranoid world-view, they are so grateful that they are willing to pay very nicely to hear it. The fact that the truth is free and the lies cost money is just more evidence that the audience for the liars is very, very small.
	__________________ Follow me on Twitter! @LossLeader This force is receiving all the right to vote through the use of magic. - Miernik Wieslaw <NEW> VOTE FOR ME JUST BECAUSE <NEW>

15th February 2007, 09:03 PM	#7
Coritani Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 319	A while ago, Dylan said he'd donate money to the 9/11 victims, the money coming from LC:FC. He said something along the likes of 'I'll give more money than the makers of United 93 and World Trade Center did, which is precisely 0$" We showed him that the makers of United 93 and W.T.C donated about $1.4 Million (IIRC) altogether, and we told him that we'd hold him to his pledge. All skeptics who posted on the matter were banned from his forum - some within minutes. I seriously doubt that Dylan Avery and co. even care about the victims. Especially since parts of the movement he affiliates himself with say that the victims of 9/11 were in on 9/11.
	__________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Panic may resent it, ignorance may deride it, malice may distort it, but there it is. - Winston Churchill

15th February 2007, 04:19 PM	#4
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,911	Originally Posted by Comsat Angel This is a bit whimsical, I know and this thread would be nuked and myself banned if it ever appeared on the LCF, within seconds I dare say. However, I keep hearing about how the LC head apparatchiks make a (in)decent living from their swill and wondered the following: 1) How much income have they got from LC in it's various incarnations? 2) Of that income, how much is profit? 3) How much has been donated to charity? I can guess the answer to 3) is $0.00. The others - YMMV Go to the library this saturday and log in, get email account, log on to LCF and ask the question, take PrintScrn, save the file, and you will have a record of being banned on LCF. The list is long of banned people. I think they have made over a million, and they tour around drinking beer, flying, and are now trying to make more money if they can. It is ironic they are making money with no facts on 9/11. They are good capitalist, hope they pay their taxes or they will be joining that nut case in NH. Or be like the Blade actor.

15th February 2007, 08:36 PM	#6
pvt1863 Thinker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 128	Sometimes I wonder if I could set up a paypal account and then go around to all the truther sites saying "donate money so I can spread the truth about 9/11!" Then I could take the money out of the paypal account and use it to buy a better computer. Then I could spend five minutes every day debunking truthers.

15th February 2007, 09:09 PM	#8
Totovader Game Warden Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,240	On a similar note- has anyone come across anything for Alex Jones' enterprise? I've been looking very hard for a good year or so on what kind of profits his movies, talks, and appearances generate- but I can't find anything conclusive. A lot of his stuff goes back to his daddy- which is apparently why he started his whole anti-government trip: his dad got in trouble for tax evasion. That's about as far as I can get, though. I'd be interested in knowing if CT's care about how much money he makes off them... but I doubt it would make a difference.
	__________________ "It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into." --Jonathan Swift Blog - Corrected By Reality. My debunking videos, and philosophy on YouTube Totovader's 9/11 Conspiracy Challenge Still unanswered!

15th February 2007, 09:09 PM	#9
The Silver Shadow Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Physically, Toronto; Mentally, Monte Carlo Posts: 1,063	When you see the videos of him going to the families of victims of 9/11 and he says that he's going to give a free DVD, what is he thinking? The film promotes that the victims were in on it and yet he's sympathetic to them...
	__________________ I've accomplished more without film school than most people, such as yourself, will EVER accomplish. Period. Jealousy is a bitch, and I'm sorry you're experiencing it, but don't spew ******** like that and expect to not be corrected. This is why you were banned from my forums in the first place. - Dylan Avery on the budget of his film.

15th February 2007, 09:13 PM	#10
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 5,830	Is it possible that Avery and Bermas don't believe in the conspiracy whatsoever and are really just in it for the money?
	__________________ Looks like the one on top has a magazine, thus needs less reloading. Also, the muzzle shroud makes it less likely for a spree killer to burn his hands. The pistol grip makes it more comfortable for the spree killer to shoot. thaiboxerken

15th February 2007, 09:17 PM	#11
The Silver Shadow Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Physically, Toronto; Mentally, Monte Carlo Posts: 1,063	Originally Posted by Quad4_72 Is it possible that Avery and Bermas don't believe in the conspiracy whatsoever and are really just in it for the money? That theory has been debated endlessly! I am part of the camp that believes that they are in it because of the money because of the nasty e-mails he sends to me when I mention that he's in it for the money. It comes off as a sort of "I'm not in it for the money, now stop asking me questions"
	__________________ I've accomplished more without film school than most people, such as yourself, will EVER accomplish. Period. Jealousy is a bitch, and I'm sorry you're experiencing it, but don't spew ******** like that and expect to not be corrected. This is why you were banned from my forums in the first place. - Dylan Avery on the budget of his film.

15th February 2007, 09:26 PM	#12
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 5,830	Originally Posted by The Silver Shadow That theory has been debated endlessly! I am part of the camp that believes that they are in it because of the money because of the nasty e-mails he sends to me when I mention that he's in it for the money. It comes off as a sort of "I'm not in it for the money, now stop asking me questions" I am honestly starting to think that is the most plausible theory. They don't believe a word of the drivel. In fact, I am going to start a thread about it.
	__________________ Looks like the one on top has a magazine, thus needs less reloading. Also, the muzzle shroud makes it less likely for a spree killer to burn his hands. The pistol grip makes it more comfortable for the spree killer to shoot. thaiboxerken

15th February 2007, 10:49 PM	#13
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by Oliver Donations: ~500 $ Much of this would be donations to the Truth movement, of course...

15th February 2007, 11:57 PM	#14
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 28,437	Originally Posted by Alareth Dylan seems to think that giving away free DVD's to the families of victims to be enough charity. Yes, ripping open scars on the basis of incredulous questions is very helpful. NOT!!!!
	__________________ Are you an ex-Truther? Please share your story. ~ The Australasian Skeptics Forum.

16th February 2007, 05:59 AM	#15
OMGturt1es Muse Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Elk Grove, California Posts: 851	i think he's in it just to create a forum from which he can ban users.

16th February 2007, 06:59 AM	#16
VespaGuy Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,036	Originally Posted by Comsat Angel This is a bit whimsical, I know and this thread would be nuked and myself banned if it ever appeared on the LCF, within seconds I dare say. However, I keep hearing about how the LC head apparatchiks make a (in)decent living from their swill and wondered the following: 1) How much income have they got from LC in it's various incarnations? 2) Of that income, how much is profit? 3) How much has been donated to charity? I can guess the answer to 3) is $0.00. The others - YMMV I brought this up a while back: In one of Dylan's earlier "ego" videos (the ones where we get to see hours of Dylan and co. doing mundane things in preparation for the 9/11 anniversary at Ground Zero), there was a scene where Dylan, Korey, and Bermas all drive their four-wheelers as they mug for the camera. Now, I hate to speculate like a CT, but wasn't Dylan sleeping on people's couches and delivering pizzas just last year? Didn't he say that he had no money? I don't think that I'm going out on a limb when I speculate that Dylan and the Looser crew bought those ATVs with some of their new found money. What's funny to me is that the idiots that worship Dylan are watching the LTW ego videos and thinking what a great asset Dylan is for the movement. But they don't even uunderstand how he's rubbing it right in their faces how stupid they are; "Hey look at me on my new ATV that YOU paid for when you bought my stupid DVD. Next year I want a BMW, so I'm making a 'real' movie. Please come see it!!"
	__________________ "You are claiming it wasn't one. That is a positive claim." - Russell Pickering

16th February 2007, 12:42 PM	#17
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,828	Originally Posted by VespaGuy What's funny to me is that the idiots that worship Dylan are watching the LTW ego videos and thinking what a great asset Dylan is for the movement. But they don't even uunderstand how he's rubbing it right in their faces how stupid they are; "Hey look at me on my new ATV that YOU paid for when you bought my stupid DVD. Next year I want a BMW, so I'm making a 'real' movie. Please come see it!!" Isn't that ever so familiar though. Does anyone remember the televangalists the Bakers(Jim and Tammy-Fae). they lived large and flaunted it but many people still believed that they were doing the Lord's work, oh yeah and Praise Jesus. True believers are often blinded by faith.

16th February 2007, 01:21 PM	#18
Loss Leader Opinionated Jerk Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 11,885	Originally Posted by VespaGuy But they don't even uunderstand how he's rubbing it right in their faces how stupid they are; "Hey look at me on my new ATV that YOU paid for when you bought my stupid DVD. Next year I want a BMW, so I'm making a 'real' movie. Please come see it!!" That's exactly how I feel when I see pictures of George Lucas on that stupid ranch. Those Star Wars movies sucked. And I paid money to see all six of them.
	__________________ Follow me on Twitter! @LossLeader This force is receiving all the right to vote through the use of magic. - Miernik Wieslaw <NEW> VOTE FOR ME JUST BECAUSE <NEW>

16th February 2007, 04:14 PM	#19
Unsecured Coins Hoku-maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in your macaronis. warming my feets Posts: 5,741	Originally Posted by Loss Leader That's exactly how I feel when I see pictures of George Lucas on that stupid ranch. Those Star Wars movies sucked. And I paid money to see all six of them. Did you watch the Christmas special? That's when you know you got rode hard and put away wet

16th February 2007, 04:39 PM	#20
~enigma~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Center of the universe Posts: 7,954	Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins rode hard and put away wet How many people do you think understand what you just said? Better yet, how many people just think you said something perverted?

16th February 2007, 04:48 PM	#21
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,624	Originally Posted by ~enigma~ How many people do you think understand what you just said? Better yet, how many people just think you said something perverted? Says the guy with the crotch-grabbing stormtrooper avatar.

16th February 2007, 05:35 PM	#22
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,304	Originally Posted by jaydeehess Isn't that ever so familiar though. Does anyone remember the televangalists the Bakers(Jim and Tammy-Fae). they lived large and flaunted it but many people still believed that they were doing the Lord's work, oh yeah and Praise Jesus. True believers are often blinded by faith. Heh. I remeber one of those guys (can't remeber if itwas Baker Swagert, Roberts, whomever) saying that God was going to kill him if people didn't send him donations totaling 10 mil.
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,304	__________________ AVENGERS!!!.. Turn off the dark!

16th February 2007, 05:38 PM	#23
jhunter1163 Beer-Swilling Semiliterate Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Room 118, Bohemian Grove Marriott Posts: 15,624	That was Oral Roberts. That was about the funniest thing I ever heard.. God putting the arm on ol' Oral. The sad thing was that people sent in the money. sigh

16th February 2007, 05:40 PM	#24
~enigma~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Center of the universe Posts: 7,954	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 Says the guy with the crotch-grabbing stormtrooper avatar. I rode it really hard

16th February 2007, 05:41 PM	#25
~enigma~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Center of the universe Posts: 7,954	Originally Posted by Redtail Heh. I remeber one of those guys (can't remeber if itwas Baker Swagert, Roberts, whomever) saying that God was going to kill him if people didn't send him donations totaling 10 mil. Oral Roberts and it was 8 million. Funny thing is he did it twice

16th February 2007, 05:46 PM	#26
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,304	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 That was Oral Roberts. That was about the funniest thing I ever heard.. God putting the arm on ol' Oral. The sad thing was that people sent in the money. sigh Yeah that's what got me about it. Well that and in art class I drew a picture of Jesus with a gun to Roberts' head that nearly got me kicked out of school. ETA: Quote: Oral Roberts and it was 8 million. Funny thing is he did it twice REALLY!?!?! Dang...
Redtail Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,304	__________________ AVENGERS!!!.. Turn off the dark!

16th February 2007, 05:49 PM	#27
Unsecured Coins Hoku-maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in your macaronis. warming my feets Posts: 5,741	Originally Posted by ~enigma~ I rode it really hard better get that thing checked

16th February 2007, 07:34 PM	#28
Loss Leader Opinionated Jerk Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 11,885	Originally Posted by ~enigma~ How many people do you think understand what you just said? Better yet, how many people just think you said something perverted? All I know is it's from Veronica Mars and it was quoted everywhere. I have no idea what it means.
	__________________ Follow me on Twitter! @LossLeader This force is receiving all the right to vote through the use of magic. - Miernik Wieslaw <NEW> VOTE FOR ME JUST BECAUSE <NEW>

16th February 2007, 07:43 PM	#29
~enigma~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Center of the universe Posts: 7,954	Originally Posted by Loss Leader All I know is it's from Veronica Mars and it was quoted everywhere. I have no idea what it means. Exactly my point. It is a somewhat regional saying.

16th February 2007, 07:55 PM	#30
babazaroni Muse Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 787	Well, I thought everyone knew what 'rode hard and put away wet' meant. It comes from riding a horse hard, then not taking care of it properly afterward and just putting it back into it's stall. Here's a Google search
babazaroni Muse Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 787

16th February 2007, 08:14 PM	#31
Unsecured Coins Hoku-maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in your macaronis. warming my feets Posts: 5,741	Originally Posted by babazaroni Well, I thought everyone knew what 'rode hard and put away wet' meant. It comes from riding a horse hard, then not taking care of it properly afterward and just putting it back into it's stall. Here's a Google search aaahhhhh... I thought it meant something else

19th February 2007, 10:54 AM	#32
VespaGuy Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,036	Originally Posted by babazaroni Well, I thought everyone knew what 'rode hard and put away wet' meant. It comes from riding a horse hard, then not taking care of it properly afterward and just putting it back into it's stall. Here's a Google search [derail] I've heard this phrase a lot. It's usually used to describe someone who is desheveled and beat-down. [/derail]
	__________________ "You are claiming it wasn't one. That is a positive claim." - Russell Pickering

19th February 2007, 10:59 AM	#33
Panoply_Prefect Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,075	I still dont get how they can make money off the film. Its free and downloadable? SLOB

19th February 2007, 11:16 AM	#34
Donal Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,128	Speaking engagements. Musicians and comedians rarely make a lot of money off their CDs and such. But live appearances are a gold mine.

19th February 2007, 01:21 PM	#35
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,130	I believe DA started LC as "a bit of fun" really not comprehending what he was doing. Actually we KNOW that's how it started because he says he started it as a FICTIONAL piece. But then actual crazy people came along and believed it. They offered to pay to get it done properly. And here is where he made his one fatal mistake. Had he been a true filmmaker, with convictions, and a desire to express the "greater truth" about the human condition, he'd have rejected the proposal to pretend fiction was truth. But he isn't a filmmaker. He wants to be "famous". It's like those people who want to be movie stars, not actors. So he sold out. He let his doco become fact instead of fiction. He sold his soul for some fame. I think he knows very well that his entire documentary is garbage. I think it's obvious when he's interviewed, or issues are raised on the subject. But imagine if he one day said "hey, it was all a lie, I'm not a truther". He can't do that. Too many people have invested too much energy in his lie. And some of them are crazy, and frankly dangerous. He's being held hostage by his own film's popularity. -Gumboot
	__________________ O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti têde keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi. A fan of fantasy? Check out Project Dreamforge.