How ill are you? (totally reliable online questionnaire to tell you)

jon · 15th March 2007, 06:53 AM

I've been doing a blog about the nutritionist Patrick Holford. His Food for the Brain Foundation has a wonderful online questionnaire to diagnose health problems (this organisation has got plenty of positive UK media coverage - e.g. on ITV's Tonight programme).

I used to think I was pretty healthy, but this questionnaire diagnosed me with a high risk of a dozen serious health problems (from heavy metal poisoning to 'detox overload').

Now, I know you know how utterly reliable online medical diagnosis is - so perhaps some people on the forum would like to try the questionnaire? I'd be interested to know how ill you are - if you feel comfortable sharing this highly accurate personal information

Either post your results here, or in the comments on my blog. Oh yeah, and according to the questionnaire my illnesses are:

Blood Sugar Imbalance 40%
Allergies 42%
Underactive Thyroid 36%
Need for B Vitamins 38%
Need for Essential Fats 42%
Heavy Metal Toxicity 38%
Pyroluria 30%
High Histamine 35%
Low Serotonin 36%
Adrenal Excess 36%
Adrenal Exhaustion 29%
Low Acetylcholine 33%
Detox Overload 33%
Stimulant Dependence 45%
High Homocysteine 36%

I'm obviously an ill man

andyandy · 15th March 2007, 07:09 AM

let me guess.....if you just drink 2 patented brocolli and egg-white shakes* a day you'll be alright....

*brocolli and egg white shakes available exclusively at Patrick Holford's holisitic Brain Food range. Always read the label - may cause giganticism.

Lisa Simpson · 15th March 2007, 07:13 AM

Gbob · 15th March 2007, 07:18 AM

What a crock.

Blood Sugar Imbalance 24%
Allergies 21%
Underactive Thyroid 25%
Need for B Vitamins 14%
Need for Essential Fats 18%
Heavy Metal Toxicity 23%
Pyroluria 12%
High Histamine 24%
Low Serotonin 19%
Adrenal Excess 18%
Adrenal Exhaustion 29%
Low Acetylcholine 21%
Detox Overload 18%
Stimulant Dependence 33%
High Homocysteine 29%

My stimulant dependance should be well over 90%

As for a prescription of avoiding alcohol, caffine and nicotine....well, they can only have my coffee pot when they pull it from my cold dead hands.

Orangutan · 15th March 2007, 07:23 AM

Oh Yeah, I definitively don't expect to get spammed if I sign up there:

Privacy Policy:

Quote:

Privacy Policy

Food for the Brain is committed to the privacy of all of our customers. Any information you do provide to us will be dealt with in accordance with this privacy statement.

This statement determines how foodforthebrain.org will store and use any information relating to you. This privacy statement applies to the entire web site. Any changes to these policies will be posted on our terms and conditions.

Under the terms of the UK Data Protection Acts (1984, 1998), we maintain strict security procedures in the storage and disclosure of all customer or visitor information. If you have any concerns or questions about privacy, please contact us at info@foodforthebrain.org

Ok so that didn't say anything other than you will store and use our info,lets look at Terms and Conditions:

Quote:

...snip.
6: Advertisements and Promotions. We may use our web site or any of the services we provide or in any of the correspondence we send to you to run advertisements promoting products and services we offer or any of its subsidiaries, or any person or corporation duly authorised by us to advertise or promote their product or services through us.
...snip.

!! It practically admits it's an email harvesting site and will sell rights to send you email!

Dragon · 15th March 2007, 07:36 AM

Well - someone was going to post this - might as well be me -

Quote:

Edmund: Never had anything you doctors didn't try to cure with leeches. A leech on my ear for ear ache, a leech on my bottom for constipation.
Doctor: They're marvellous, aren't they?
Edmund: Well, the bottom one wasn't. I just sat there and squashed it.
Doctor: You know the leech comes to us on the highest authority?
Edmund: Yes. I know that. Dr. Hoffmann of Stuttgart, isn't it?
Doctor: That's right, the great Hoffmann.
Edmund: Owner of the largest leech farm of Europe.

(Blackadder II, Bells - by Richard Curtis)

Marquis de Carabas · 15th March 2007, 07:38 AM

I am no iller than my license allows.

jon · 15th March 2007, 07:45 AM

Sorry, I didn't know about the e-mail harvesting. I'd suggest people use a fake e-mail, then (something like bad@advice.com should work fine) - and apologies if anyone gets extra spam from this not-profit.

Thanks for the results. Interesting that there's a 0% chance that Lisa isn't getting enough essential facts (not something they could know without knowing her diet, surely?)

Anyway, so it looks like they just list the same 'illnesses' for everyone, then guess at your chances of having them.

Oddly, there's not a great deal of stuff sold on the site (it's a not-for-profit). Maybe they've got genuinely benevelent motives for giving crap advice

delphi_ote · 15th March 2007, 07:52 AM

According to our survey...

You be illin'

Molinaro · 15th March 2007, 08:00 AM

Blood Sugar Imbalance 17%
Allergies 21%
Underactive Thyroid 19%
Need for B Vitamins 17%
Need for Essential Fats 12%
Heavy Metal Toxicity 15%
Pyroluria 3%
High Histamine 27%
Low Serotonin 17%
Adrenal Excess 13%
Adrenal Exhaustion 17%
Low Acetylcholine 12%
Detox Overload 36%
Stimulant Dependence 27%
High Homocysteine 29%

I have no idea if that's good or bad or what.

PrincessIneffabelle · 15th March 2007, 08:00 AM

Ohhhh, I'm lovin' the tight pants! They are so much better than the baggy, hangin-off-your-butt pants!

Hamradioguy · 15th March 2007, 09:14 AM

Well, I was really low- just a few percentage points- on everything but "Stimulant Dependence". Those few cups of coffee and the glass of red wine I have with dinner each day sent that up to something like 30%.

I predict hypochondriacs will just love this poll.

jon · 15th March 2007, 10:55 AM

no fair - I got higher than hamradioguy for stimulant dependence, and I barely drink alcohol and have a couple of teas/coffees each day

I'd like to know what kind of algorithms they've got behind this thing...

zooloo · 15th March 2007, 11:44 AM

They told me

Quote:

Your questionnaire does not indicate any major imbalances. However, these results are only a guide and are not designed to be as effective as a professional diagnosis. If you are suffering with a mental health problem, it's likely that it can be corrected with an appropriate nutritional strategy.

We therefore recommend that you see a nutrition consultant with experience of treating mental health who can take a full case history and arrange further tests if necessary.

So there is nothing wrong with me but I should go and see a nutrition consultant anyway - I wonder if the answer is always go see a nutrition consultant?

Half a mo... a nutrition consultant with experience of treating mental health??? Because their thing doen't diagnose mental health issues I should go and see a mental health nutrition consultant.

If I turned up to one and said "I've come here because a website told me to...". The answer would be quite evident - "You're out of your tiny mind mate! Go away before I call the police".

cesium · 15th March 2007, 01:42 PM

Detox Overload?

Steven Howard · 15th March 2007, 01:56 PM

I want to second the bafflement over "Detox Overload."

Also, the very first question cracks me up:

"Do you live in a city?"

Okay, the question's not that funny. What cracks me up is that the possible responses are "No/Never", "Occasionally", "Often", "Always/Yes". "I often live in a city." Really? I tried that, but now I find it's more convenient to only occasionally live in a city."

I answered "No/Never" to every question except the last one ("Do you take heroin?"), to which I answered "Yes/Always." I have 9% "Stimulant Dependence" (even though heroin's a depressant) and a clean bill of health otherwise.

ETA:

"Do you have crowded upper front teeth?"

Is this a health questionnaire or am I making an appointment with an orthodontist?

"Do you have little body hair and a lean build?"

Is this a health questionnaire or a personal ad?

"Do you have large ears or long fingers and toes?"

Do you suffer from rabbitosis?

"Do you alcohol or drug abuse?"

Do you ever leave out words when composing an online survey?

jon · 15th March 2007, 04:15 PM

Yep, I find it's more convenient to only occasionally have dyspraxia, too

Hell, they could at least have proof-read the survey properly...

zooloo- you may be giving 'nutritional consultants' too much credit. At least in the UK, anyone - whoever unqualified and however stupid - can call themselves a 'nutritional consultant'. I'm sure lots of them would be very happy to sell uneccesary products to healthy people.
Anyway, I was advised to see a Dr - to ask for a dozen (fairly expensive, and completely pointless) tests. I can imagine my NHS GP's response to that, too

Fnord · 15th March 2007, 05:52 PM

* PHISHING ALERT *

The website provided in the OP requires information that could lead to new waves of spam to your inbox, telemarketing calls, and/or junk mail to the address you provide.

All in return for "Information" that may be irrelevant, or even false, when applied to your particular physiology, medical history, and dietary needs.

You have been warned.

-Fnord of Dyscordia-

jon · 15th March 2007, 06:01 PM

Sorry, I didn't mean to encourage anyone to attract extra spam (I use a different e-mail address for these things). They don't *seem* to have started any kind of onslaught - but certainly best to give a fake e-mail.

ETA: and yes, the information you get in response to the questionnaire may be irrelevent or false. I certainly wouldn't trust it, at all, as health advice. I found some of the answers funny, though

bruto · 15th March 2007, 06:31 PM

OMIGAWD! I'm gonna die! I don't even know what adrenal exhaustion is, but I've got it! And high histamine too!

I'm reminded of a couple of jokes, one long shaggy dog one involving an outfit like this that does urine tests, which keeps, against all logic, sending back accurate diagnoses, including tennis elbow. Finally, the person throws a whole lot of extraneous junk into the sample, and masturbates into it. The result comes back with the usual accurate analysis, and the note, "and if you don't stop that wanking, you'll never get rid of your tennis elbow!"

A YMCA decides to send the water from its swimming pool for analysis. The result comes back, "I'm terribly sorry to tell you that your horse has diabetes."

Skeptic Ginger · 15th March 2007, 06:34 PM

I won't be logging on, now that I have read a few more of the posts here. I see I was likely correct. It's one of those gimmick sites. There are a million of them, take the IQ test, take the personality test, etc etc.

Some of these online come-ons are just gimmicks to get email addresses. I made the mistake once, and that was enough. My spam went from 10/ to 100+/day overnight. So, why do they need me to log on and give them a name and address?

Second, I can tell you right off the bat you don't diagnose the stuff they are claiming by a questionnaire. Blood tests and hair analyses can give you more accurate information. So, are there any studies they cite which compare their results with blood tests or other legitimate objective evidence which validates their conclusions or did someone just make the stuff up? (Let me guess, you eat tuna and have amalgam fillings so you must have mercury poisoning.)

Third, what research have they done to connect the results with any documented consistent illnesses? The human body has a lot of capacity for damage before symptoms occur with a number of 'deficiencies' and levels of toxins.

Because from my current vantage point (outside looking in) I'm guessing there is no legit research with this stuff and literally, someone just made it up and decided to claim it was true.

Skeptic Ginger · 15th March 2007, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Steven Howard

I want to second the bafflement over "Detox Overload."

Also, the very first question cracks me up:

"Do you live in a city?"

Okay, the question's not that funny. What cracks me up is that the possible responses are "No/Never", "Occasionally", "Often", "Always/Yes". "I often live in a city." Really? I tried that, but now I find it's more convenient to only occasionally live in a city."

I answered "No/Never" to every question except the last one ("Do you take heroin?"), to which I answered "Yes/Always." I have 9% "Stimulant Dependence" (even though heroin's a depressant) and a clean bill of health otherwise.

ETA:

"Do you have crowded upper front teeth?"

Is this a health questionnaire or am I making an appointment with an orthodontist?

"Do you have little body hair and a lean build?"

Is this a health questionnaire or a personal ad?

"Do you have large ears or long fingers and toes?"

Do you suffer from rabbitosis?

"Do you alcohol or drug abuse?"

Do you ever leave out words when composing an online survey?

Maybe there are some hidden sales survey questions in there. If you have bad teeth you get on a thousand mailing lists for a dental clinic franchise.

jon · 15th March 2007, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by skeptigirl

Before I log on that thing I need more info.

Some of these online come-ons are just gimmicks to get email addresses. I made the mistake once, and that was enough. My spam went from 10/ to 100+/day overnight. So, why do they need me to log on and give them a name and address?

Second, I can tell you right off the bat you don't diagnose the stuff they are claiming by a questionnaire. Blood tests and hair analyses can give you more accurate information. So, are there any studies they cite which compare their results with blood tests or other legitimate objective evidence which validates their conclusions or did someone just make the stuff up? (Let me guess, you eat tuna and have amalgam fillings so you must have mercury poisoning.)

Third, what research have they done to connect the results with any documented consistent illnesses? The human body has a lot of capacity for damage before symptoms occur with a number of 'deficiencies' and levels of toxins.

Because from my current vantage point (outside looking in) I'm guessing there is no legit research with this stuff and literally, someone just made it up and decided to claim it was true.

If you're concerned about spam, I'd suggest giving a fake e-mail address - no@spam.com, or whatever you choose. Credit where credit's due, though - I gave that Foundation my e-mail a good month ago (doing some research for a blog) and I haven't noticed increased spam. It could be better safe than sorry, though - by all means use a fake address.

I'm not sure how they make their 'diagnoses'. The questionnaire doesn't really ask about your diet (aside from drugs etc.) so no idea how they can tell you're lacking essential fats etc. I'm generally pretty healthy - no symptoms of heavy metal poisoning afaik

- so no idea how they decided I'm at a serious risk of this...

I know Holford's Institute of Optimum Nutrition has done some (badly designed) questionnaire 'research'. It's plausible that they *might* have mined this poor quality research for any correllations, and used these to build an even poorer quality questionnaire - but the Foundation could also have made it up, or used data from elsewhere. tbh, your guess is as good as mine.

bruto · 15th March 2007, 07:11 PM

I used a real yahoo mail account, which never gets spam, and a fake name, so it should be pretty easy to determine if I suddenly start getting spam.

catbasket · 15th March 2007, 09:59 PM

Mr Arfur Cutout, who answered "no/never" for every question, scores 0% on everything and gets the following -

Quote:

Your Analysis
Your questionnaire does not indicate any major imbalances. However, these results are only a guide and are not designed to be as effective as a professional diagnosis. If you are suffering with a mental health problem, it's likely that it can be corrected with an appropriate nutritional strategy.

We therefore recommend that you see a nutrition consultant with experience of treating mental health who can take a full case history and arrange further tests if necessary.

BS quotient = 100%

bruto · 16th March 2007, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Snow

Mr Arfur Cutout, who answered "no/never" for every question, scores 0% on everything and gets the following -

BS quotient = 100%

On the contrary, answering "no" to every question is a sure indication of a negative attitude. You're sicker than you think, and by the way, your cat also has fleas.

baron · 16th March 2007, 08:13 AM

I'm interested how people actually answered this survery. Example ~

Q: Do you have little body hair and a lean build?
Options: Never, Occasionally, Often, Always / Yes

WTF does that mean? Is it asking if I'm a werewolf or something?

Like I'm really going to take notice of some quack who can't even write a few questions on a survey

Skeptic Ginger · 16th March 2007, 04:39 PM

Your results
0% 100%
Blood Sugar Imbalance 8%
Allergies 0%
Underactive Thyroid 6%
Need for B Vitamins 19%
Need for Essential Fats 3%
Heavy Metal Toxicity 19%
Pyroluria 0%
High Histamine 16%
Low Serotonin 7%
Adrenal Excess 8%
Adrenal Exhaustion 4%
Low Acetylcholine 8%
Detox Overload 3%
Stimulant Dependence 3%
High Homocysteine 7%

Heavy metal and I didn't even mention fish. Must be that music coming from my son's room all the time.

Whole thing was silly. Nothing of substance in that questionnaire. Yet they had a plea for psychiatrists to join there 'circle'. At a glance, it looks like one of those food allergy woo sites. I couldn't go to "evidence" without more registering. Didn't want to spend anymore time on it.

Eos of the Eons · 16th March 2007, 08:58 PM

Blood Sugar Imbalance 10%

Allergies 0% Underactive Thyroid 14%

Need for B Vitamins 21%

Need for Essential Fats 3%

Heavy Metal Toxicity 12%

Pyroluria 21%

High Histamine 16%

Low Serotonin 7%

Adrenal Excess 8%

Adrenal Exhaustion 4%

Low Acetylcholine 4%

Detox Overload 3%

Stimulant Dependence 9%

High Homocysteine 7%

The questions are stupid. There could be any number of reasons you can get tired, for instance. Eating lots of sugar won't make you automatically have a sugar imbalance. Blah blah. And I gave them my email address

jon · 17th March 2007, 05:47 AM

Thanks for the replies. It's also kind-of worrying that they'd say you've got a 0% chance of allergies based on an online questionnaire

I'd agree it looks like a woo site (is a woo site). The only reason to notice the thing is it seems to have received an unusual amount of media attention, and also to have persuaded pretty reputable organisations like Mind to affiliate to it.

Roboramma · 17th March 2007, 06:26 AM

Blood Sugar Imbalance 24%

Allergies 39%

Underactive Thyroid 25%

Need for B Vitamins 19%

Need for Essential Fats 30%

Heavy Metal Toxicity 23%

Pyroluria 33%

High Histamine 24%

Low Serotonin 19%

Adrenal Excess 15%

Adrenal Exhaustion 25%

Low Acetylcholine 12%

Detox Overload 18%

Stimulant Dependence 12%

High Homocysteine 21%

Some of those questions didn't even make sense! Like, "Do you ever feel ‘unreal'?" Huh?
Or, "Do you ever 'hear' your own thoughts?" What? Obviously I don't hear them the way I hear a bell, but I do 'hear' them as a voice in my head speaking sometimes... but doesn't everyone?
I don't get it.

And since all they really tell you from this survey is the above %'s, I have to wonder what answering "always" to "Do you ever feel 'unreal'?" would do to my results. In fact, I think I will.
So, I put everything else to "no/never". It says I have a 7% chance of "Need for B vitamins" based on the fact that I always feel unreal...
I don't get it.

catbasket · 17th March 2007, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by bruto

You're sicker than you think...

Not possible - I am one seriously sick individual

jon · 17th March 2007, 10:42 AM

I think I'm still sicker than anyone else here

My problems are:

Quote:

Blood Sugar Imbalance
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that BLOOD SUGAR IMBALANCE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Glycosylated Haemoglobin blood test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Allergies
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that ALLERGIES may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Food Intolerance Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Underactive Thyroid
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that UNDERACTIVE THYROID may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Thyroid Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Need for B Vitamins
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that NEED FOR B VITAMINS may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Homocysteine Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Need for Essential Fats
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that NEED FOR ESSENTIAL FATS may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Blood Test for Essential Fats. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Heavy Metal Toxicity
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that HEAVY METAL TOXICITY may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Hair Mineral Analysis. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Pyroluria
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that PYROLURIA may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Kryptopyrrole Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

High Histamine
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that HIGH HISTAMINE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Histamine Blood Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Low Serotonin
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that LOW SEROTONIN may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Neurotransmitter Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Adrenal Excess
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that ADRENAL EXCESS may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Neurotransmitter Test . This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Low Acetylcholine
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that LOW ACETYLCHOLINE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Neurotransmitter Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Detox Overload
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that DETOX OVERLOAD may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Liver Detoxification Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

Stimulant Dependence
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that STIMULANT DEPENDENCE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a period of abstinence from sugar, stimulants and other potential addictive substances, backed up by appropriate nutritional and psychological support. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

High Homocysteine
You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that HIGH HOMOCYSTEINE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Homocysteine Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist.

I actually answered honestly, too

Solus · 17th March 2007, 11:45 AM

Blood Sugar Imbalance 6%
Allergies 12%
Underactive Thyroid 6%
Need for B Vitamins 14%
Need for Essential Fats 6%
Heavy Metal Toxicity 8%
Pyroluria 9%
High Histamine 14%
Low Serotonin 12%
Adrenal Excess 3%
Adrenal Exhaustion 12%
Low Acetylcholine 21%
Detox Overload 0%
Stimulant Dependence 0%
High Homocysteine 7%

our Analysis
Your questionnaire does not indicate any major imbalances. However, these results are only a guide and are not designed to be as effective as a professional diagnosis. If you are suffering with a mental health problem, it's likely that it can be corrected with an appropriate nutritional strategy.

We therefore recommend that you see a nutrition consultant with experience of treating mental health who can take a full case history and arrange further tests if necessary.

Wow to think they could figure all that out with just a few simple questions...
How stupid of me, I thought you went to a psychologist or psychiatrist if you had mental problems but no it's a nutritionist now, I know better!

I used 123@fakeemail.com

Who comes up this garbage?

15th March 2007, 06:53 AM	#1
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	How ill are you? (totally reliable online questionnaire to tell you) I've been doing a blog about the nutritionist Patrick Holford. His Food for the Brain Foundation has a wonderful online questionnaire to diagnose health problems (this organisation has got plenty of positive UK media coverage - e.g. on ITV's Tonight programme). I used to think I was pretty healthy, but this questionnaire diagnosed me with a high risk of a dozen serious health problems (from heavy metal poisoning to 'detox overload'). Now, I know you know how utterly reliable online medical diagnosis is - so perhaps some people on the forum would like to try the questionnaire? I'd be interested to know how ill you are - if you feel comfortable sharing this highly accurate personal information Either post your results here, or in the comments on my blog. Oh yeah, and according to the questionnaire my illnesses are: Blood Sugar Imbalance 40% Allergies 42% Underactive Thyroid 36% Need for B Vitamins 38% Need for Essential Fats 42% Heavy Metal Toxicity 38% Pyroluria 30% High Histamine 35% Low Serotonin 36% Adrenal Excess 36% Adrenal Exhaustion 29% Low Acetylcholine 33% Detox Overload 33% Stimulant Dependence 45% High Homocysteine 36% I'm obviously an ill man
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15th March 2007, 07:09 AM	#2
andyandy anthropomorphic ape Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: up a tree Posts: 8,192	let me guess.....if you just drink 2 patented brocolli and egg-white shakes* a day you'll be alright.... *brocolli and egg white shakes available exclusively at Patrick Holford's holisitic Brain Food range. Always read the label - may cause giganticism.
	__________________ "Contentment is found in the music of Bach, the books of Tolstoy and the equations of Dirac, not at the wheel of a BMW or the aisles of Harvey Nicks."

15th March 2007, 07:13 AM	#3
Lisa Simpson THE Lisa Simpson Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 20,045
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15th March 2007, 07:18 AM	#4
Gbob Scholar Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 94	What a crock. Blood Sugar Imbalance 24% Allergies 21% Underactive Thyroid 25% Need for B Vitamins 14% Need for Essential Fats 18% Heavy Metal Toxicity 23% Pyroluria 12% High Histamine 24% Low Serotonin 19% Adrenal Excess 18% Adrenal Exhaustion 29% Low Acetylcholine 21% Detox Overload 18% Stimulant Dependence 33% High Homocysteine 29% My stimulant dependance should be well over 90% As for a prescription of avoiding alcohol, caffine and nicotine....well, they can only have my coffee pot when they pull it from my cold dead hands.
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15th March 2007, 07:36 AM	#6
Dragon Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,403	Well - someone was going to post this - might as well be me - Quote: Edmund: Never had anything you doctors didn't try to cure with leeches. A leech on my ear for ear ache, a leech on my bottom for constipation. Doctor: They're marvellous, aren't they? Edmund: Well, the bottom one wasn't. I just sat there and squashed it. Doctor: You know the leech comes to us on the highest authority? Edmund: Yes. I know that. Dr. Hoffmann of Stuttgart, isn't it? Doctor: That's right, the great Hoffmann. Edmund: Owner of the largest leech farm of Europe. (Blackadder II, Bells - by Richard Curtis)
	__________________ "We must favour verifiable evidence over private feeling. Otherwise we leave ourselves vulnerable to those who would obscure the truth." Richard Dawkins - The Enemies of Reason

15th March 2007, 07:23 AM	#5
Orangutan Graduate Poster Tagger Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Florida. Posts: 1,175	Oh Yeah, I definitively don't expect to get spammed if I sign up there: Privacy Policy: Quote: Privacy Policy Food for the Brain is committed to the privacy of all of our customers. Any information you do provide to us will be dealt with in accordance with this privacy statement. This statement determines how foodforthebrain.org will store and use any information relating to you. This privacy statement applies to the entire web site. Any changes to these policies will be posted on our terms and conditions. Under the terms of the UK Data Protection Acts (1984, 1998), we maintain strict security procedures in the storage and disclosure of all customer or visitor information. If you have any concerns or questions about privacy, please contact us at info@foodforthebrain.org Ok so that didn't say anything other than you will store and use our info,lets look at Terms and Conditions: Quote: ...snip. 6: Advertisements and Promotions. We may use our web site or any of the services we provide or in any of the correspondence we send to you to run advertisements promoting products and services we offer or any of its subsidiaries, or any person or corporation duly authorised by us to advertise or promote their product or services through us. ...snip. !! It practically admits it's an email harvesting site and will sell rights to send you email!

15th March 2007, 07:38 AM	#7
Marquis de Carabas Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: vuori Posts: 27,106	I am no iller than my license allows.
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15th March 2007, 07:45 AM	#8
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	Sorry, I didn't know about the e-mail harvesting. I'd suggest people use a fake e-mail, then (something like bad@advice.com should work fine) - and apologies if anyone gets extra spam from this not-profit. Thanks for the results. Interesting that there's a 0% chance that Lisa isn't getting enough essential facts (not something they could know without knowing her diet, surely?) Anyway, so it looks like they just list the same 'illnesses' for everyone, then guess at your chances of having them. Oddly, there's not a great deal of stuff sold on the site (it's a not-for-profit). Maybe they've got genuinely benevelent motives for giving crap advice
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15th March 2007, 07:52 AM	#9
delphi_ote Debunking Ninja Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,006	According to our survey... You be illin'
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15th March 2007, 08:00 AM	#10
Molinaro Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,026	Blood Sugar Imbalance 17% Allergies 21% Underactive Thyroid 19% Need for B Vitamins 17% Need for Essential Fats 12% Heavy Metal Toxicity 15% Pyroluria 3% High Histamine 27% Low Serotonin 17% Adrenal Excess 13% Adrenal Exhaustion 17% Low Acetylcholine 12% Detox Overload 36% Stimulant Dependence 27% High Homocysteine 29% I have no idea if that's good or bad or what.
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15th March 2007, 08:00 AM	#11
PrincessIneffabelle I'm not godless, I'm god-free Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,421	Ohhhh, I'm lovin' the tight pants! They are so much better than the baggy, hangin-off-your-butt pants!

15th March 2007, 09:14 AM	#12
Hamradioguy Pyrrhonist Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northern Vermont Posts: 2,272	Well, I was really low- just a few percentage points- on everything but "Stimulant Dependence". Those few cups of coffee and the glass of red wine I have with dinner each day sent that up to something like 30%. I predict hypochondriacs will just love this poll.

15th March 2007, 10:55 AM	#13
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	no fair - I got higher than hamradioguy for stimulant dependence, and I barely drink alcohol and have a couple of teas/coffees each day I'd like to know what kind of algorithms they've got behind this thing...
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15th March 2007, 11:44 AM	#14
zooloo Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Britian Posts: 248	They told me Quote: Your questionnaire does not indicate any major imbalances. However, these results are only a guide and are not designed to be as effective as a professional diagnosis. If you are suffering with a mental health problem, it's likely that it can be corrected with an appropriate nutritional strategy. We therefore recommend that you see a nutrition consultant with experience of treating mental health who can take a full case history and arrange further tests if necessary. So there is nothing wrong with me but I should go and see a nutrition consultant anyway - I wonder if the answer is always go see a nutrition consultant? Half a mo... a nutrition consultant with experience of treating mental health??? Because their thing doen't diagnose mental health issues I should go and see a mental health nutrition consultant. If I turned up to one and said "I've come here because a website told me to...". The answer would be quite evident - "You're out of your tiny mind mate! Go away before I call the police".

15th March 2007, 01:42 PM	#15
cesium Scholar Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 76	Detox Overload?
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15th March 2007, 01:56 PM	#16
Steven Howard Custom Title Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 1,798	I want to second the bafflement over "Detox Overload." Also, the very first question cracks me up: "Do you live in a city?" Okay, the question's not that funny. What cracks me up is that the possible responses are "No/Never", "Occasionally", "Often", "Always/Yes". "I often live in a city." Really? I tried that, but now I find it's more convenient to only occasionally live in a city." I answered "No/Never" to every question except the last one ("Do you take heroin?"), to which I answered "Yes/Always." I have 9% "Stimulant Dependence" (even though heroin's a depressant) and a clean bill of health otherwise. ETA: "Do you have crowded upper front teeth?" Is this a health questionnaire or am I making an appointment with an orthodontist? "Do you have little body hair and a lean build?" Is this a health questionnaire or a personal ad? "Do you have large ears or long fingers and toes?" Do you suffer from rabbitosis? "Do you alcohol or drug abuse?" Do you ever leave out words when composing an online survey?
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15th March 2007, 04:15 PM	#17
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	Yep, I find it's more convenient to only occasionally have dyspraxia, too Hell, they could at least have proof-read the survey properly... zooloo- you may be giving 'nutritional consultants' too much credit. At least in the UK, anyone - whoever unqualified and however stupid - can call themselves a 'nutritional consultant'. I'm sure lots of them would be very happy to sell uneccesary products to healthy people. Anyway, I was advised to see a Dr - to ask for a dozen (fairly expensive, and completely pointless) tests. I can imagine my NHS GP's response to that, too
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15th March 2007, 05:52 PM	#18
Fnord Metasyntactic Variable Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,633	* PHISHING ALERT * The website provided in the OP requires information that could lead to new waves of spam to your inbox, telemarketing calls, and/or junk mail to the address you provide. All in return for "Information" that may be irrelevant, or even false, when applied to your particular physiology, medical history, and dietary needs. You have been warned. -Fnord of Dyscordia-
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15th March 2007, 06:01 PM	#19
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	Sorry, I didn't mean to encourage anyone to attract extra spam (I use a different e-mail address for these things). They don't seem to have started any kind of onslaught - but certainly best to give a fake e-mail. ETA: and yes, the information you get in response to the questionnaire may be irrelevent or false. I certainly wouldn't trust it, at all, as health advice. I found some of the answers funny, though
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15th March 2007, 06:31 PM	#20
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,181	OMIGAWD! I'm gonna die! I don't even know what adrenal exhaustion is, but I've got it! And high histamine too! I'm reminded of a couple of jokes, one long shaggy dog one involving an outfit like this that does urine tests, which keeps, against all logic, sending back accurate diagnoses, including tennis elbow. Finally, the person throws a whole lot of extraneous junk into the sample, and masturbates into it. The result comes back with the usual accurate analysis, and the note, "and if you don't stop that wanking, you'll never get rid of your tennis elbow!" A YMCA decides to send the water from its swimming pool for analysis. The result comes back, "I'm terribly sorry to tell you that your horse has diabetes."
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15th March 2007, 06:34 PM	#21
Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shifting through paradigms Posts: 40,513	I won't be logging on, now that I have read a few more of the posts here. I see I was likely correct. It's one of those gimmick sites. There are a million of them, take the IQ test, take the personality test, etc etc. Some of these online come-ons are just gimmicks to get email addresses. I made the mistake once, and that was enough. My spam went from 10/ to 100+/day overnight. So, why do they need me to log on and give them a name and address? Second, I can tell you right off the bat you don't diagnose the stuff they are claiming by a questionnaire. Blood tests and hair analyses can give you more accurate information. So, are there any studies they cite which compare their results with blood tests or other legitimate objective evidence which validates their conclusions or did someone just make the stuff up? (Let me guess, you eat tuna and have amalgam fillings so you must have mercury poisoning.) Third, what research have they done to connect the results with any documented consistent illnesses? The human body has a lot of capacity for damage before symptoms occur with a number of 'deficiencies' and levels of toxins. Because from my current vantage point (outside looking in) I'm guessing there is no legit research with this stuff and literally, someone just made it up and decided to claim it was true.
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15th March 2007, 06:39 PM	#22
Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shifting through paradigms Posts: 40,513	Originally Posted by Steven Howard I want to second the bafflement over "Detox Overload." Also, the very first question cracks me up: "Do you live in a city?" Okay, the question's not that funny. What cracks me up is that the possible responses are "No/Never", "Occasionally", "Often", "Always/Yes". "I often live in a city." Really? I tried that, but now I find it's more convenient to only occasionally live in a city." I answered "No/Never" to every question except the last one ("Do you take heroin?"), to which I answered "Yes/Always." I have 9% "Stimulant Dependence" (even though heroin's a depressant) and a clean bill of health otherwise. ETA: "Do you have crowded upper front teeth?" Is this a health questionnaire or am I making an appointment with an orthodontist? "Do you have little body hair and a lean build?" Is this a health questionnaire or a personal ad? "Do you have large ears or long fingers and toes?" Do you suffer from rabbitosis? "Do you alcohol or drug abuse?" Do you ever leave out words when composing an online survey? Maybe there are some hidden sales survey questions in there. If you have bad teeth you get on a thousand mailing lists for a dental clinic franchise.
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15th March 2007, 06:49 PM	#23
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	Originally Posted by skeptigirl Before I log on that thing I need more info. Some of these online come-ons are just gimmicks to get email addresses. I made the mistake once, and that was enough. My spam went from 10/ to 100+/day overnight. So, why do they need me to log on and give them a name and address? Second, I can tell you right off the bat you don't diagnose the stuff they are claiming by a questionnaire. Blood tests and hair analyses can give you more accurate information. So, are there any studies they cite which compare their results with blood tests or other legitimate objective evidence which validates their conclusions or did someone just make the stuff up? (Let me guess, you eat tuna and have amalgam fillings so you must have mercury poisoning.) Third, what research have they done to connect the results with any documented consistent illnesses? The human body has a lot of capacity for damage before symptoms occur with a number of 'deficiencies' and levels of toxins. Because from my current vantage point (outside looking in) I'm guessing there is no legit research with this stuff and literally, someone just made it up and decided to claim it was true. If you're concerned about spam, I'd suggest giving a fake e-mail address - no@spam.com, or whatever you choose. Credit where credit's due, though - I gave that Foundation my e-mail a good month ago (doing some research for a blog) and I haven't noticed increased spam. It could be better safe than sorry, though - by all means use a fake address. I'm not sure how they make their 'diagnoses'. The questionnaire doesn't really ask about your diet (aside from drugs etc.) so no idea how they can tell you're lacking essential fats etc. I'm generally pretty healthy - no symptoms of heavy metal poisoning afaik - so no idea how they decided I'm at a serious risk of this... I know Holford's Institute of Optimum Nutrition has done some (badly designed) questionnaire 'research'. It's plausible that they might have mined this poor quality research for any correllations, and used these to build an even poorer quality questionnaire - but the Foundation could also have made it up, or used data from elsewhere. tbh, your guess is as good as mine.
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15th March 2007, 07:11 PM	#24
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,181	I used a real yahoo mail account, which never gets spam, and a fake name, so it should be pretty easy to determine if I suddenly start getting spam.
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15th March 2007, 09:59 PM	#25
catbasket atheist godfather Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The naughty step Posts: 1,486	Mr Arfur Cutout, who answered "no/never" for every question, scores 0% on everything and gets the following - Quote: Your Analysis Your questionnaire does not indicate any major imbalances. However, these results are only a guide and are not designed to be as effective as a professional diagnosis. If you are suffering with a mental health problem, it's likely that it can be corrected with an appropriate nutritional strategy. We therefore recommend that you see a nutrition consultant with experience of treating mental health who can take a full case history and arrange further tests if necessary. BS quotient = 100%
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16th March 2007, 07:48 AM	#26
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 11,181	Originally Posted by Snow Mr Arfur Cutout, who answered "no/never" for every question, scores 0% on everything and gets the following - BS quotient = 100% On the contrary, answering "no" to every question is a sure indication of a negative attitude. You're sicker than you think, and by the way, your cat also has fleas.
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16th March 2007, 08:13 AM	#27
baron Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hill Posts: 1,910	I'm interested how people actually answered this survery. Example ~ Q: Do you have little body hair and a lean build? Options: Never, Occasionally, Often, Always / Yes WTF does that mean? Is it asking if I'm a werewolf or something? Like I'm really going to take notice of some quack who can't even write a few questions on a survey
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16th March 2007, 04:39 PM	#28
Skeptic Ginger formerly skeptigirl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shifting through paradigms Posts: 40,513	Your results 0% 100% Blood Sugar Imbalance 8% Allergies 0% Underactive Thyroid 6% Need for B Vitamins 19% Need for Essential Fats 3% Heavy Metal Toxicity 19% Pyroluria 0% High Histamine 16% Low Serotonin 7% Adrenal Excess 8% Adrenal Exhaustion 4% Low Acetylcholine 8% Detox Overload 3% Stimulant Dependence 3% High Homocysteine 7% Heavy metal and I didn't even mention fish. Must be that music coming from my son's room all the time. Whole thing was silly. Nothing of substance in that questionnaire. Yet they had a plea for psychiatrists to join there 'circle'. At a glance, it looks like one of those food allergy woo sites. I couldn't go to "evidence" without more registering. Didn't want to spend anymore time on it.
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16th March 2007, 08:58 PM	#29
Eos of the Eons Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 13,894	Blood Sugar Imbalance 10% Allergies 0% Underactive Thyroid 14% Need for B Vitamins 21% Need for Essential Fats 3% Heavy Metal Toxicity 12% Pyroluria 21% High Histamine 16% Low Serotonin 7% Adrenal Excess 8% Adrenal Exhaustion 4% Low Acetylcholine 4% Detox Overload 3% Stimulant Dependence 9% High Homocysteine 7% The questions are stupid. There could be any number of reasons you can get tired, for instance. Eating lots of sugar won't make you automatically have a sugar imbalance. Blah blah. And I gave them my email address
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17th March 2007, 05:47 AM	#30
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	Thanks for the replies. It's also kind-of worrying that they'd say you've got a 0% chance of allergies based on an online questionnaire I'd agree it looks like a woo site (is a woo site). The only reason to notice the thing is it seems to have received an unusual amount of media attention, and also to have persuaded pretty reputable organisations like Mind to affiliate to it.
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17th March 2007, 06:26 AM	#31
Roboramma Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shanghai Posts: 7,094	Blood Sugar Imbalance 24% Allergies 39% Underactive Thyroid 25% Need for B Vitamins 19% Need for Essential Fats 30% Heavy Metal Toxicity 23% Pyroluria 33% High Histamine 24% Low Serotonin 19% Adrenal Excess 15% Adrenal Exhaustion 25% Low Acetylcholine 12% Detox Overload 18% Stimulant Dependence 12% High Homocysteine 21% Some of those questions didn't even make sense! Like, "Do you ever feel ‘unreal'?" Huh? Or, "Do you ever 'hear' your own thoughts?" What? Obviously I don't hear them the way I hear a bell, but I do 'hear' them as a voice in my head speaking sometimes... but doesn't everyone? I don't get it. And since all they really tell you from this survey is the above %'s, I have to wonder what answering "always" to "Do you ever feel 'unreal'?" would do to my results. In fact, I think I will. So, I put everything else to "no/never". It says I have a 7% chance of "Need for B vitamins" based on the fact that I always feel unreal... I don't get it.
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17th March 2007, 06:47 AM	#32
catbasket atheist godfather Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The naughty step Posts: 1,486	Originally Posted by bruto You're sicker than you think... Not possible - I am one seriously sick individual
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17th March 2007, 10:42 AM	#33
jon Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 923	I think I'm still sicker than anyone else here My problems are: Quote: Blood Sugar Imbalance You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that BLOOD SUGAR IMBALANCE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Glycosylated Haemoglobin blood test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Allergies You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that ALLERGIES may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Food Intolerance Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Underactive Thyroid You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that UNDERACTIVE THYROID may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Thyroid Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Need for B Vitamins You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that NEED FOR B VITAMINS may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Homocysteine Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Need for Essential Fats You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that NEED FOR ESSENTIAL FATS may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Blood Test for Essential Fats. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Heavy Metal Toxicity You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that HEAVY METAL TOXICITY may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Hair Mineral Analysis. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Pyroluria You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that PYROLURIA may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Kryptopyrrole Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. High Histamine You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that HIGH HISTAMINE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Histamine Blood Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Low Serotonin You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that LOW SEROTONIN may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Neurotransmitter Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Adrenal Excess You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that ADRENAL EXCESS may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Neurotransmitter Test . This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Low Acetylcholine You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that LOW ACETYLCHOLINE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Neurotransmitter Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Detox Overload You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that DETOX OVERLOAD may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Liver Detoxification Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. Stimulant Dependence You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that STIMULANT DEPENDENCE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a period of abstinence from sugar, stimulants and other potential addictive substances, backed up by appropriate nutritional and psychological support. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. High Homocysteine You have a relatively large number of symptoms indicating that HIGH HOMOCYSTEINE may be contributing to your health problem. The best way to check for this is to have a Homocysteine Test. This can be arranged through your doctor, psychiatrist or a clinical nutritionist. I actually answered honestly, too
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17th March 2007, 11:45 AM	#34
Solus Tinkering with my brain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: L.A. area Posts: 1,723	Blood Sugar Imbalance 6% Allergies 12% Underactive Thyroid 6% Need for B Vitamins 14% Need for Essential Fats 6% Heavy Metal Toxicity 8% Pyroluria 9% High Histamine 14% Low Serotonin 12% Adrenal Excess 3% Adrenal Exhaustion 12% Low Acetylcholine 21% Detox Overload 0% Stimulant Dependence 0% High Homocysteine 7% our Analysis Your questionnaire does not indicate any major imbalances. However, these results are only a guide and are not designed to be as effective as a professional diagnosis. If you are suffering with a mental health problem, it's likely that it can be corrected with an appropriate nutritional strategy. We therefore recommend that you see a nutrition consultant with experience of treating mental health who can take a full case history and arrange further tests if necessary. Wow to think they could figure all that out with just a few simple questions... How stupid of me, I thought you went to a psychologist or psychiatrist if you had mental problems but no it's a nutritionist now, I know better! I used 123@fakeemail.com Who comes up this garbage?