Meditation

[becomingagodo]

If you search in google and type tummo and go into wikipedia and go to the bottom and click on the havard link
Well if you have read the article it shows how meditation can do things thought to be impossible in everyday science. Controlling your own body temperture and making it raise above normal temperture also decreasing your metabolic rate to 65% of your normal rate.
Any thoughts

[firecoins]

Originally Posted by becomingagodo

Any thoughts

none at all. I have been meditating for years and my temp is 98.7. My heart rate lowered though.

[becomingagodo]

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none at all

Ok I will start the ball rolling.

Isn't this proof that meditation is something more that people who master it can proberly control their healing processes causes instant regeneration. Also they can go without sleep and sooner or later abillity like TK or ESP will be avaliable to them.
Think about it controlling your temperture and metabolic rate is impossible so theirfore shouldn't the study be proof anoth that your wrong abit. Because the last time I checked what they are doing is biologically impossible.

[jon]

speeding up/slowing heart rate or raising body temperature is easy enough. Even being nervous can raise your heart rate, make you sweat, etc. Simple relaxation exercises - or even sitting down and relaxing - can slow heart rate. None of this is paranormal, or biologically impossible.

Of course, if 'masters' of meditation can demonstrate TK, ESP etc. in controlled conditions, they can still make an easy $1million out of Randi. Best hurry, though, the rules change in April.

Oh yeah, and this instant regeneration thing sounds cool. Aside from ethical concerns - cutting bits off yourself or other people really is a bad idea - I'd be tempted to suggest that they amputate a finger and then regenerate it back. If they could do that, that would be cool

[Babbylonian]

Originally Posted by becomingagodo

If you search in google and type tummo and go into wikipedia and go to the bottom and click on the havard link
Well if you have read the article it shows how meditation can do things thought to be impossible in everyday science. Controlling your own body temperture and making it raise above normal temperture also decreasing your metabolic rate to 65% of your normal rate.
Any thoughts

Okay, I just read the article and couldn't find any "science." I found anecdotes, unproved claims and uninteresting "experiments" regarding drying cold, wet sheets.

Just for the heck of it, let's look at the cold, wet sheets/colder room issue. First off, the body gives off heat - in fact, the majority of body heat is radiated. So, the fact that cold, wet sheets will warm up and dry over time (indeed, a relatively short time - try it yourself without meditating!) when draped on a human body is wholly uninteresting. The fact that this takes place in a cold room doesn't do much for me, either (my living space this winter has regularly been in the 40- to 50-degrees Fahrenheit range, and my robe dries in fairly short order after a shower). In fact, all that the room being cold would do is lessen the chance of sweating, ensuring that said sweat wouldn't interfere with the drying. It also makes note that "untrained" people would experience "uncontrolled shivering" under the same conditions. That's accurate to some degree (particularly if said people were wearing no clothes and unaccustomed to cold temperatures), but controlling "shivering" isn't that difficult and the environmental temperature of 40 degrees Fahrenheit isn't that cold (uncomfortable, yes, but not at all dangerous), relatively speaking, especially if "wind chill" is taken out of the equation.

As far as slowing metabolism by meditation goes, this is a pretty commonly understood phenomenon which can be induced during any form of relaxation/inactivity. Have you ever noticed, for example, how cold you feel when lying down for a long period of time in a room that felt comfortably warm before doing so? Reduced activity means reduced blood circulation (part of a slower metabolism) which results in lower temperatures, especially at the extremities.

Of course, the bottom line is that the article you reference isn't a scientific study, nor does it reference any such studies demonstrating anything truly extraordinary. The only "impossible" things I see in the article are claims with no evidence.

[drkitten]

Originally Posted by becomingagodo

Isn't this proof that meditation is something more that people who master it can proberly control their healing processes causes instant regeneration.

No more so than the fact that a professional quarterback can throw a football 50+ yards is proof that people who master football can hurl cars into orbit.

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Also they can go without sleep and sooner or later abillity like TK or ESP will be avaliable to them.

Ditto.

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Think about it controlling your temperture and metabolic rate is impossible so theirfore shouldn't the study be proof anoth that your wrong abit. Because the last time I checked what they are doing is biologically impossible.

Perhaps you should re-check, then. There's nothing especially difficult about controlling your temperature and your heart rate. If you watch an exciting film, for example, your temperature and heart rate will go up -- it's the old fight-or-flight reflex, basically. But you can get the same effect by merely thinking about an exciting film (or exciting event) that you remember or imagine.

It's no more difficult to raise or lower your heartrate on command than it is to start or stop crying upon command. Any trained actress can do the second.....