"The Lost Book Of Nostradamus"

[Jimcalagon]

You can find any number of 'lost' prophecies by Nostradamus on this site... www . timmcnulty.iofm.net/nostradamus.htm

[dudalb]

Originally Posted by fuelair

And, after several years of that kind of sludge on those two theoretical beacons of learning and education, you are surprised???!!!

Surprised,No.
Still dissapointed and angry,yes.
What disturbs me is the good programing they have on helps to lend creditbility to the crap they have on.
BTW the New Nostry Special was about as I "predicted": more of the same.
And apparently the providence of the "New" Nostry documents is very,very,questionable.

[Gryphus-1]

Have any of you been to this History Channel's web page? They have this mini video on the Nostradamus section, and now the NostraNuts are saying that Century X quatrain 72 is the 9/11 prediction, They are also now claiming that Nostradamus' work is hidden with Numerology codes as well. The Century X quatrain 72 verse is the 1999 prophecy:

The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

The Link for the mini video can be found here:


http://www.history.com/minisite.do?c...&mini_id=56121

[dudalb]

Originally Posted by Gryphus-1

Have any of you been to this History Channel's web page? They have this mini video on the Nostradamus section, and now the NostraNuts are saying that Century X quatrain 72 is the 9/11 prediction, They are also now claiming that Nostradamus' work is hidden with Numerology codes as well. The Century X quatrain 72 verse is the 1999 prophecy:

The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

The Link for the mini video can be found here:


http://www.history.com/minisite.do?c...&mini_id=56121

You can find some kind of numerology code to make any book you care to mention say anything you care to make it say.

[Lensman]

One crackpot worked out that the date represented by, "The year 1999, seventh month", equals September 11, 2001 - go figure THAT one out!

[Gryphus-1]

Let me make it clear. In the video the woman says that the words, Century X Q. 72 breaks down to 911 because she said:

"X in roman numerals = 10 and thats 1, so 11" and then she says "7+2=9 therefore 9-11"

My question is, How does she jump from 10 to 11? she doesn't say 10+1 is 11 she said x=10 and thats 1 so eleven?

[Lensman]

That's not how this so-called expert worked it out, he said that Nossy woukld've been using the Julian calendar instead of the "newer" Gregorian calendar, the Julian calendar had September as the seventh month (his words not mine) & that 1999 was a "numeric anagram" of 2001.

I thought that September stopped being the seventh month after Julius Caesar & Caesar Augustus were honoured by having new months named after them (July for Julius & August for Augustus), which was a LOOOOOOOng time before the Gregorian calendar was developed, therefore Nossy would have still thought of September as being the ninth month & july as being the seventh month - even if he was using the Julian calendar.

[Apology]

I had someone tape it for me and watched part of it today. I intended to watch the whole thing but it was so patently obvious that it was not written or drawn by Nostradamus that I gave up on it quickly. I've had occasion to handle many old, handwritten documents as a part of my profession, and I can tell you from experience that there is simply no way that the ink in the book would have remained anywhere near that black over the term of 500 years. I have seen many records that were a mere 100 years old that had fade into sepia tones and near illegibility. The best preserved ink had faded to a very dark gray that was still easily distinguished from black.

Also, there is no way that the tints in the watercolor would have stayed true as well. Watercolors are only good for about 50 years even if you buy professional quality paints. Any length of time we get them to last past 50 years or so is due to good preservation and care, which this book would not have gotten if it had been misplaced by the Vatican Library and kept in the public library as the show claims. I also noted that the ink used on the outlines in the drawings was that same unconvincing coal black.

An utterly shameless fraud.

[Starthinker]

Originally Posted by Apology

I had someone tape it for me and watched part of it today. I intended to watch the whole thing but it was so patently obvious that it was not written or drawn by Nostradamus that I gave up on it quickly. I've had occasion to handle many old, handwritten documents as a part of my profession, and I can tell you from experience that there is simply no way that the ink in the book would have remained anywhere near that black over the term of 500 years. I have seen many records that were a mere 100 years old that had fade into sepia tones and near illegibility. The best preserved ink had faded to a very dark gray that was still easily distinguished from black.

Also, there is no way that the tints in the watercolor would have stayed true as well. Watercolors are only good for about 50 years even if you buy professional quality paints. Any length of time we get them to last past 50 years or so is due to good preservation and care, which this book would not have gotten if it had been misplaced by the Vatican Library and kept in the public library as the show claims. I also noted that the ink used on the outlines in the drawings was that same unconvincing coal black.

An utterly shameless fraud.

Were they claiming those were the actual drawings? With the 3-d effect they kept displaying I thought we were seeing replicated drawings, not the actual documents. Even I, a novice, thought there was no way those drawings were that old.

[slingblade]

Originally Posted by Gryphus-1

Let me make it clear. In the video the woman says that the words, Century X Q. 72 breaks down to 911 because she said:

"X in roman numerals = 10 and thats 1, so 11" and then she says "7+2=9 therefore 9-11"

My question is, How does she jump from 10 to 11? she doesn't say 10+1 is 11 she said x=10 and thats 1 so eleven?

I dunno, not having seen what you did, but if she's using numerology, she's doing it wrong. Classic numerology doesn't use 2-digit numbers; all numbers can be reduced to a single digit, 1-9, by adding them together.

One placed I looked this up said there was a number 10 used, but from what I've always heard, 10 simply reduces to 1, and 11 reduces to 2. However, there are variants, and I am certainly no expert.

Heh, IOW, I have no idea how she got 11, because even woo says she should have gotten a 1 or at the most, a 2.

[Apology]

Originally Posted by Starthinker

Were they claiming those were the actual drawings? With the 3-d effect they kept displaying I thought we were seeing replicated drawings, not the actual documents. Even I, a novice, thought there was no way those drawings were that old.

I had the impression that they were showing the actual book but I admit that I didn't watch it long enough to determine if they were showing the original or a duplicate copy of the book. The library log sheet was clearly still bound into the original book and in my personal opinion the line regarding the Nostradamus book was significantly blacker than the other entries around it, and looked as if it had been cramped into the available space between two previously existing entries. Spacing is something that one looks for when examining modern signatures for forgery, and something like that sticks out. One would assume that in order to darken the lines in duplication that there would be a resulting reduction in the contrast, causing graying of other parts of the document that is seen when light copies are duplicated at the darkest setting in order to attempt to clarify the print.

I would like to add that I wasn't a document expert, but rather the first person to handle some of the signatures. If I found a questionable signature I would send it to a higher authority for a determination as to whether or not it was fraudulent. Oftentimes my red flags were remedied by having the person sign in front of a notary at the office to show that their handwriting had changed over time, or that their hand jiggled or something when they signed the document I questioned (sometimes people get very nervous and it makes their writing shaky). The very old documents that I was handling were not under any sort of suspicion of forgery either, so I did not examine or question their veracity.

[Skeptic Ginger]

Originally Posted by Starthinker

I'm watching this now. Like they didn't have towers that caught fire in the 1500's. A single burning stone tower that looks like 3 storeys tall is supposed to be the Twin Towers? What a stretch.

Did you notice the burning tower is from a Tarot card? It isn't one of the drawings in the manuscript.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ke/RWtower.jpg

http://www.kimspages.org/thetower.jpg

[Skeptic Ginger]

The manuscript was copied from an earlier manuscript. That was about as far as the science went.

The entire program was really poorly done. Every speculation was stated as if it was a fact. That is shameful infotainment. I was disappointed. Sometimes they have better programs that still entertain but at least make an attempt to show the actual evidence and separate out and identify the speculation. This program made no such effort.