Patty Casazza: Whistleblowers Told Me Government Knew Exact Date and Targets

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

Originally Posted by geggy

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...ams=ableDanger

plenty of whistleblowers...

Yet where's their proof. Their proof is nothing but speculation and conjecture.

[Brainster]

Originally Posted by boloboffin

She also makes claims about recruitment by Turkish agents. One of the more intriguing theories I've heard is she has evidence of a federal agency putting a spy in their department (either FBI or CIA, can't remember which). And I can't remember exactly why it ties to 9/11, but there's a roundabout way it gets there.

Brainster, any links to Sibel debunking would be greatly appreciated.

There really are none, for the simple reason that Sibel plays this game of "I've got a secret and I can't tell you." And of course she's got the gag order to "prove" it. She was hired by the FBI after 9-11 and the charges that got her on 60 Minutes were basically that she was told by her supervisor to go slow on translating documents so that they could get a budget and a larger department. Troubling certainly, but not really 9-11 related except in terms of outrage that this might lead to another one. She also claimed that her supervisor, who was also translating Turkish documents, was dating a Turkish diplomat at the same time. Possible conflict of interest, certainly.

But as for the 9-11 stuff, she's like an old-time hootchie-kootchie dancer at a carnival sideshow. You'd swear she was going to show you everything but somehow the important parts remain hidden. This latest gambit of "I'll tell all on live network TV" is of course a bunch of hooey designed to further prop up her status as somebody that the mainstream media won't touch.

Here's her open letter to Tom Kean following the issuance of the 9-11 Commission Report. Most of the stuff discussed in there is ground well-covered; Colleen Rowley, the Phoenix Memo, her charges against her supervisor, etc. But as always with Sibel, there's just enough hint of more to come:

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The victims family members still do not realize that information and answers they have sought relentlessly for over two years has been blocked due to the unspoken decisions made and disguised under ‘ safeguarding certain diplomatic relations.’ Your report did not even attempt to address these unspoken practices, although, unlike me, you were not placed under any gag. Your hearings did not include questions regarding these unspoken and unwritten policies and practices. Despite your full awareness and understanding of certain criminal conduct that connects to certain terrorist related activities, committed by certain U.S. officials and high-level government employees, you have not proposed criminal investigations into this conduct, although under the laws of this country you are required to do so.

This part did catch my attention:

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Over three years ago, more than four months prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks, in April 2001, a long-term FBI informant/asset who had been providing the bureau with information since 1990, provided two FBI agents and a translator with specific information regarding a terrorist attack being planned by Osama Bin Laden. This asset/informant was previously a high-level intelligence officer in Iran in charge of intelligence from Afghanistan. Through his contacts in Afghanistan he received information that: 1) Osama Bin Laden was planning a major terrorist attack in the United States targeting 4-5 major cities, 2) the attack was going to involve airplanes, 3) some of the individuals in charge of carrying out this attack were already in place in the United States, 4) the attack was going to be carried out soon, in a few months. The agents who received this information reported it to their superior, Special Agent in Charge of Counterterrorism, Thomas Frields, at the FBI Washington Field Office, by filing “302” forms, and the translator translated and documented this information. No action was taken by the Special Agent in Charge, and after 9/11 the agents and the translators were told to ‘keep quiet’ regarding this issue. The translator who was present during the session with the FBI informant, Mr. Behrooz Sarshar, reported this incident to Director Mueller in writing, and later to the Department of Justice Inspector General.The press reported this incident, and in fact the report in the Chicago Tribune on July 21, 2004 stated that FBI officials had confirmed that this information was received in April 2001, and further, the Chicago Tribune quoted an aide to Director Mueller that he (Mueller) was surprised that the Commission never raised this particular issue with him during the hearing ( Please refer to Chicago Tribune article, dated July 21, 2004).

But the Chicago Tribune article describes things quite a bit differently:

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Five months before Sept. 11, a longtime informant for the FBI reported that Al Qaeda was planning a devastating terrorist assault in which the weapons were to be commercial airliners.

According to two sources familiar with that interview, the informant was short on details. In particular, nothing was said about the precise timing of the airborne attack, its location or its possible targets.

Law enforcement officials who have reviewed the April 2001 interview and at least one follow-up conversation insist that the informant's information, by itself, could not have led the bureau to the Sept. 11 plotters.

And:

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According to the law enforcement official, "there was talk about terrorists and planes," but no mention of when or where the attacks might take place.

It was the FBI agents' impression, the official said, that the target of the attacks could be "possibly here, but more probably overseas." The Asset also reported having heard a rumor that a plane would be hijacked to Afghanistan, the official said.

The FBI's translator, a former Iranian police colonel named Behrooz Sarshar, does not recall any mention of a hijacking to Afghanistan. But Sarshar, then a career FBI employee assigned to the translation section of the bureau's Washington field office, does remember the Asset saying the attacks might take place in the U.S. or Europe, and also that the terrorist-pilots were "under training."

After checking his notes from the interview, Sarshar said that, in addition to sources in Iran, the Asset had mentioned picking up information from Afghanistan and Hamburg.

Certainly suggestive--Afghanistan and Hamburg. But:

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Sarshar retired from the FBI in 2002 after an FBI agent complained to the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility that Sarshar had discussed, "outside a secure setting," a federal anti-terrorist prosecution in Los Angeles on which he had worked.

So it could be sour grapes too. At any rate, the specificity that Sibel claims is clearly not there.

[boloboffin]

My term for the "whistleblowers", since they aren't, is "wannabes". That is, when I'm not calling them "imaginary."

[LashL]

Sadly, some people will do or say anything to obtain and/or extend their "15 minutes of fame", even if it requires that they just make crap up. Two compelling examples of this are S. Edmonds and W. Rodriguez.

[T.A.M.]

people in hollywood spend their entire lives "making stuff up" to extend their fame.

Then again, that is what they do for a living...lol

TAM

[gumboot]

Something worth remembering about Sibel Edmonds is she was never employed by the FBI. She was an outside contractor.

-Gumboot

[boloboffin]

We have been informed over at DU that Sibel Edmonds HAS suffered drastic consequences because of her stance and her speaking out, consequences that certainly must chill the blood of any wannabe whistleblower when they contemplete the sheer agony that she has undergone.

Sibel Edmonds has been RETROACTIVELY CLASSIFIED.



I seriously can't make this stuff up.

[Sabrina]

How can you retroactively classify a PERSON?

Oy vey... *shakes head in wonder*