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Old 27th December 2007, 09:36 AM   #1
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Richard Gage & AE911Truth: Are They Worth Your Money

This is my new article, found at http://911guide.googlepages.com/ae911truth

Excuse me for the font problems on the Gage CV. I don't know why, but this doesn't let me correct it.


Richard Gage: The Architect

Who exactly is Richard Gage? He is an AIA Architect and the founding member of ae911truth.org.

From his website: “Gage has been a practicing Architect for 20 years and has worked on most types of building construction including numerous fire-proofed steel-framed buildings. He is employed with a San Francisco Bay Area architecture firm and has most recently performed Construction Administration services for a new $120M High School campus including a $10M steel-framed Gymnasium. He says, he is currently working on the Design Development for a very large mixed use urban project with 1.2M sq.ft. of retail and 320K sq.ft. of high-rise office space — altogether about 1,200 tons of steel framing.”

But there is no CV or any detailed description of his work experience. That’s strange, since he is considered as one of the experts of the 9/11 truth movement. It sure would be nice to know more about his credentials.

Well, luckily his CV is publicly available on another website. The CV is last updated on March, 2007. So we get a quite recent description of his experience. Let’s take a closer look, shall we.


Richard Gage Curriculum Vitae:

First, the summary: "24 years professional architectural experience (19 yrs Licenced) including public, commercial, industrial, institutional, rapid transit, civil defence and residential typologies, with the last 17 years as lead Project Architect role in addition to 5 years as Principal of a small Architecture practice."

17 years experience as lead Project Architect role. Fair enough.


Qualifications: “Extensive experience in project management leading Design Development, Construction Documents, Bidding and Construction Administration phases; in-depth research into uncommon building types and technologies; coordination, engineering disciplines and municipal agencies; rigorous building code analysis and expertise in CA T24/ADA; Excellent leadership and interpersonal skills; skills; Proficient writer and speaker.

Proficient writer and speaker? We’ll get into that later.


Experience: “Responsibility as lead Project Architect on the following projects performing all of the following activities:

Extensive coordination with Clients, project Budgeting & Scheduling, Design Development, Construction Document (usually leading about 5 staff); Life Safety & T24/ADA Code Analysis; Coordination of all Consultants - Geotechnical, Structural, Mechanical, Electrical, Acoustical, Landscape and Civil consultants, Utility Co’s, Coordination with City, County and State Agencies throughout Planning and Building Permit acquisition; Development of & cross-coordination of Specifications; and Construction Administration.”

It has become quite clear now, that Gage is a Project Architect. Coordination seems to be the main thing.

But his detailed work experience? It’s all here. We will not go through it in great detail, but here are the main observations:
  • He has been involved in 4 projects with his current employer:
oA Dougherty Valley High School Project,
oMain Gym and Auxilliary Gym
oADA Upgrades Project for the Acalanes Union High School District,
oAcalanes H.S. – New Wing 500, Storage Buildings, Tennis Courts, Parking Lots, & Fields Renovation
  • His current employer, Akol & Yoshii Architects, is not found by the ZIP code search of the AIA website. Indication of a small firm?
  • His earlier projects in order (newest first, starting from Sept, 2001) include the following:
oA Lecture Hallbuilding
oThe remodel of 2 historic former Waves barracks
o5-building 38,000 s.f. $4M retail center
o7 retail restaurant tenant improvements
oLivermore City Hall – a 2-story concrete/steel framed complete building renovation/addition
oAnimal Care & Adoption facility
o2-Story 2-Building 24-Unit wood framed condominium project
o11 new Classroom buildings at 11 different schools, including remodeling of existing class rooms
oShell Oil Gas Station Remodel
oThe Courtyard Shopping Center
oBay Avenue Commercial Center - 136,000 s.f. combination new & remodeled shopping complex
oYard Birds Shopping Center
oMikes Auto Body
o1st Nationwide Bank - Complete Remodel of 5,000 s.f. Bank branch
oThe Carlyle Apartments - A 23-Building 372-Unit Multi-family Housing Complex including a 3-story, 36-unit Building which occur on-grade and on Podium above the S3 Parking Garages, the 2-story Villa Buildings with individual Garages, and all accessory buildings
oHealthWays Medical Clinicstenant improvements
oSanwa Bank
o6,000 s.f. Type-V restaurant
oPeralta Warehouse
oCarpeteria - renovation of 16,300 s.f. Type-V concrete tilt-up building
oContra Costa Centre & Country Club Village shopping centers, as well as minor renovations at Encina Grande shopping center
oresponsible for design & construction documents for 9 mining facility buildings
oMotorola factory and office complex- Tienjen, China
oAirport Terminalat Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
oEuro-Disney MGM Studio Tour theme park - Backlot Express restaurant, Maintenance Building and Sound stages
oPrepared design development drawings for the Bay Area Rapid Transitstations
oDirected a team of 5 through construction documents for a 94 building Type-l California state maximum security prison complex
oDesigned fallout and blast shelters for several clients over a two year period
oRemodel of a 200 room hotel
One thing that immediately catches the eye. No high-rises. We have shopping centers, halls, school projects, barracks, warehouses, etc.



Richard Gage of AE911Truth

Now that we know his experience and credentials, we can move on to the Richard Gage of AE911Truth. Richard Gage joined the truth movement after hearing David Ray Griffin on the radio March, 2006.

The Evidence?

Gage has produced no original evidence of his own. His evidence is direct copy-paste from the works of David Ray Griffin, Jim Hoffman and Steven Jones. You can compare the evidence listed by Richard Gage at the frontpage of AE911truth.org to the evidence presented by Griffin, Hoffman and Jones.

To critically analyze his demolition evidence, please see the paper witten by Ryan Mackey http://911guide.googlepages.com/ryanmackey
or go to
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/nist%2Cfemareports%2C911structuralengineerin
http://911guide.googlepages.com/griffin29

http://www.debunking911.com
http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc__demolition_.html

But let's take a closer look at a couple of more absurd Gage claims:
  • In a very interesting statement (around 1:05:00 mark), Richard Gage suggests that “silent thermate (an advanced form of thermite)” was used to bring the WTC towers down. He then states that 118 FDNY personnel heard explosions.
"Gage: Well that's why they would have used thermite, which is a more silent, um, thermate, which is a special form of thermite with added sulfur, because obviously you wouldn't want a whole bunch of explosions to be heard, even though they were, it's not a perfect science. They have a hundred and eighteen witnesses just from those who were recorded in the oral histories."

How do you hear silent explosions? When did thermate start exploding? What are you talking about? To see what the explosions described by some firemen actually were, see here and here.
  • Another statement from the same debate (around 41:45 mark). Gage says about the collapse: “80.000 tons of intact, cold structural steel designed to resist exactly that load, having done that for the last 30 years, and the life-span of this building for the next 50, free-fall speed virtually..”
A short lesson. The difference between a static load and a dynamic load.
Static Load: A nonvarying load; the basal pressure exerted by the weight of a mass at rest. Also known as dead load.
Dynamic Load: A force exerted by a moving body on a resisting member, usually in arelatively short time interval. Also known as energy load.

The towers were designed to resist the static load, not the dropping hat trusses and the dynamic load.
Try this little experiment with your friend. First, ask your friend to gently place a brick on top your head. Just let it rest there. You will feel the weight of the brick, but you can live with that. Next, kneel down but ask your friend to hold the brick above your head at exactly the same height, as it was when you were standing up. Then ask your friend to drop that brick. You have experienced the difference between a static load and a dynamic load.
  • Gage also lists FDNY foreknowledge as partial evidence of controlled demolition of WTC 7. FDNY foreknowledge means, they knew the building was going to collapse. FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro made the decision to evacuate, he did not receive the evacuation order from some higher-ups. This means Chief Nigro had foreknowledge. This means Chief Nigro’s foreknowledge is evidence of controlled demolition. This means Chief Nigro is involved. Which is absurd.
  • Gage claims sounds of explosions at ground floor of WTC 7 a full second prior to collapse, were heard by hundreds of firemen and media reporters. This is simply not true. He bases this claim on this testimony, that can be listened to at his site. The testimony does not mention bombs, it does not even mention explosions, let alone mention hundreds of firemen and media reporters. It is a quote of one single person, who says: “We heard this sound that was like a clap of thunder”, which is exactly what you would expect hearing when a building collapses. One can not assume buildings collapse totally silently.
  • Gage also claims NIST admits that they have not analyzed and have not been able to adequately explain the Twin Towers' collapse. This is misleading. NIST says they have not been able to model the collapse. This is, quote "Because of the magnitude of deflections and the number of failures occurring, the computer models are not able to converge a solution". This is clearly explained in the NIST letter.

Has Produced Nothing Himself



Let’s take a look at the technical articles page over at AE911truth:
http://www.ae911truth.org/techarts.php

The amount of technical articles on this page equals to 30 as of December 26, 2007. How many of these technical articles are written by him? None of them are written by Richard Gage. No original content, no papers, no calculations have originated from Gage or AE911Truth.

And is an architect really an expert to analyze structural collapses? Apparently even Gage thinks not, because his December 2007 newsletter makes a desperate call for structural engineers: "Tell your friends, family and colleagues the truth that you know — particularly the structural engineers!" (bolding by Richard Gage).

There indeed is a shortage of actual structural engineers who claim WTC was demolished with explosives. This page lists well over 1000 certified structural engineers, certified by the Structural Engineering Certification Board (SECB) of The National Council of Structural Engineers Association. And that is just certified structural engineers in United States, Puerto Rico & Virgin Islands, certified in 2005 or later. Consider, how many thousands of more of structural engineers there are worldwide. And how many of these over 1000 certified structural engineers question the events of 9/11? You guessed it, not a single one.



Admits to Controlled Demolition Being Outside the Scope of His Expertise

See this page:
http://www.ae911truth.org/info/4

"Architects and Engineers are trained to design buildings that function well and withstand potentially destructive forces. However, the 3 high-rise buildings at the World Trade Center which ‘collapsed’ on 9/11 (the Twin Towers plus WTC Building #7) presented us with a body of evidence (i.e.controlled demolition) that was clearly outside the scope of our training and experience."

Richard Gage himself admits, that controlled demolition is clearly outside the scope of his expertise. Yet, all his evidence consists of arguments trying to prove the demolition of the 3 towers.

"Twenty-seven hundred people were murdered in what we can now safely
call demolitions
," Gage said.

http://www.ae911truth.org/press/7


The AE911Truth Petition & Growth of AE911Truth.org

AE911Truth.org has a petition on their website. It is currently (December 27, 2007) signed by 231 Arhitects/Engineers and 609 other supporters. That’s 840 in total.

Everyone who wishes to join AE911Truth website, has to sign the petition. One cannot even view their discussion board without joining and thus also signing their petition.

The petition goes as follows: “On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7.”

In short, this is just another demand for a new, independent investigation.

But Richard Gage seems to think this is a very popular petition. From his letter to Mark Weitzman, dated December 8, 2007: “Maybe now you understand why our membership of architects, engineers, and other building professionals, who are all calling for a science-based forensic investigation - which has yet to be performed - is growing exponentially!

First of all, as mentioned before, if one wishes to join AE911Truth one is forced to sign the petition.

Second, is their membership of building professionals really growing exponentially? When Richard Gage fully launced his website on May 28, 2007 a total of 48 building professionals were listed. After that moment it was quickly found out, that anyone could join their site using any credentials they wanted. You could just click “join” and put “Architect” in your credentials box.

This confusion lasted some time, so no credible membership figures can be gathered from the summer of 2007. Later, they somewhat fixed their problems, and we can get more credible figures once again (although the identity of many is still questionable).

Quite credible figures from October 16, 2007. Both this and this article list the membership figures as “Nearly 200” or “Almost 200”. We take the right to estimate a figure of 190.

In his letter to Mark Weitzman, Gage reveal his figure as of December 8, 2007: “more than 230 well-respected architects and engineers”. More than 230, could it be 231? Because the figure on December 27, 2007 is 231 (see his front page).

So, we have the following figures:

May 28: 48 members
October 16: 190 members
December 8: 231 members
December 27: 231 members

Let’s draw a graph.



That growth is not exponential. It is linear.

The definition of exponential: “Something is said to increase or decrease exponentially if its rate of change must be expressed using exponents. A graph of such a rate would appear not as a straight line, but as a curve that continually becomes steeper or shallower.”
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/exponential

And one more interesting detail. The “recruiter” for AE911Truth is, or at least used to be, a person called Doug Plumb. He has said his views do not represent the views of AE911Truth, but they are quite interesting. Doug Plumb believes in mini-nukes at WTC. He supports Judy Wood, who says Space Beams brought the WTC towers down. About FDNY Plumb says "When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder." His views are expressed in a discussion thread here.


Asking for Money

To continue their work efficiently, Gage and AE911Truth seem to need a lot of money.

http://www.ae911truth.org/sustain.php

"Our responsibilities, time commitment and expenses are growing dramatically with our increasing success. We also must purchase computers, printers, software, and handle traveling and legal expenses. Our efforts and growth cannot be sustained without your help."

"We need many thousands of dollars per month to realize our goals."

But why do they need thousands of dollars on a mothly basis? They sure do not need new computer equipment or software every month. Traveling? I thought the event organizers usually pay for the travel costs. Does this money go to compensate for the work of the volunteers? What exactly do these volunteers do? Update the slide presentation?

Here is what it costs to become a “sustaining member”:


Pledge Level / Cost per Month / What you get with the money:

Citizen or Student / $10 monthly / 20 WTC Evidence and 20 Twin Towers Cards

Advocate / $25 monthly / DVD: 9/11 Blueprint for Truth + 20 of each card

Activist / $50 monthly / 2 DVD's + 50 of each card

Patriot / $100 monthly / 3 DVD's + 100 of each card

Statesman / $250 monthly / 5 DVD's + 250 of each card

Ambassador / $500 monthly / 10 DVD's + 500 of each card

AE911Truth Hero / $911 monthly / 20 DVD's + 1000 of each card


Let's see how much that makes on a yearly basis:


Pledge Level / Cost per Year / What you get with the money:

Citizen or Student / $120 yearly / 20 WTC Evidence and 20 Twin Towers Cards

Advocate / $300 yearly / DVD: 9/11 Blueprint for Truth + 20 of each card

Activist / $600 yearly / 2 DVD's + 50 of each card

Patriot / $1200 yearly / 3 DVD's + 100 of each card

Statesman $3000 yearly 5 DVD's + 250 of each card

Ambassador / $6000 yearly / 10 DVD's + 500 of each card

AE911Truth Hero / $10932 yearly / 20 DVD's + 1000 of each card


For $10932 / year you can become a AE911Truth Hero. Sounds like an insanely huge amount of money, considering the reward.


If you do not prefer monthly donations, you can also make a substantial one-time donation. The only condition is, that you donate a minimum of $100.


Selling Products

The other money making method, selling truth products.

http://www.ae911truth.org/store.php

Over here you will find DVD’s and so called “evidence cards”.

But it’s doesn’t end there. Their December 2007 newsletter promises the following: "In addition to our flagship products our store will soon stock AE911Truth.org T-shirts, bumper stickers, and vinyl banners for responsible street action visibility. We will also stock a host of books and other DVD's. Before the year ends we will be stocking enveloped 9/11 Blueprint for Truth DVD's and audio CD's which you can buy in quantity at extremely low prices."


Taking People to Lunch?

This is a completely new way of making money, courtesy of AE911truth. Taking A/E firms to lunch.

http://www.ae911truth.org/donate.php?b=mih

$9.00 Take an Architect or Engineer to Lunch!
$50.00 Take a few A/E's out to Lunch!
$90.00 Take a small A/E firm to Lunch!
$500.00 Take a medium A/E firm to Lunch!
$900.00 Take a large A/E firm to lunch!
Donate $any amount Take any size A/E firm to lunch!


How exactly does that work? The only advice the page gives you, is detailed instructions on how to make a donation. There are no instructions on how the lunch is actually arranged. If I wish to buy this lunch, I donate money.. ok.. what next..? Oh, but they do have this there: "Thank you very much for you support of the 9/11 Truth!" and a button "Contact Us", which takes you to the general "contact" page of AE911truth. I guess that takes care of it!

And what exactly are the size limits to "small" or "medium" sized A/E firms anyway. I sure would like to know the difference, because the donation amount jumps from $90 to $500 between these two "sizes". And what is that "donate $any amount" to take any size A/E firm to lunch? If I donate $1.50 dollars, can I take a large A/E firm to lunch? I would save $898.50!



Changing Methods?


On July 11, 2007:
http://www.ae911truth.org/info/10

Unauthorized use of the AE911Truth.org name
"We have received notification of graffiti-like direct actions by independent persons not affiliated in any way with ae911truth using the ae911truth.org URL address. Although we encourage activism, we discourage and disavow intrusive and possibly unlawful activism methods, which can be counterproductive to our mission of public education, scientific investigation and research, and legal objectives like our demand for a new, Congressional investigation into the events of 9/11."




But surpsire surprise, a couple of months later, on the December 2007 newsletter:
"We Support 9/11 Truth Street Action" and "The 9/11 truthers out on the street are the heroes of this movement. Send us your AE911Truth street action photos and we will post them here."

And what photos do they have posted there? That's right, a photo of the same graffiti they said they do not want to be affiliated with.


What About the Wrong Demolition Audio?


This topic has raised many questions.

Start by visiting the ImplosionWorld Cinema. Choose the Philips building (top of the two rows, right-hand side) and watch the video. Pay particular attention when the timer gets past 10 seconds. You'll hear an explosion, see smoke shoot out from the centre base of the building, then hear another set of explosions, then the building falls. Repeat that a few times so you're familar with the timing.

Take a look at the same implosion from another angle. We don't have the same view of the base of the building this time, but you can still hear loud explosions before and after first smoke shoots out.

Now visit this page at the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

Now there's no explosions at all, and what's more you can hear the building fall before it actually happens. It appears this version of the video has either had the explosions removed and seen the rest of the collapse sound moved forward to cover it (which would explain the silent second or two at the end), or perhaps has had the complete audio track added from somewhere else.

Why would you need to remove the explosion sounds from the soundtrack?

I have asked Richard Gage about this. He has not responded. But he has responded to another person asking the same question. His response: His slide presentation was put together by a committee, not by Richard Gage himself. They claim to be looking into the matter.

So ok, Gage produces no original arguments, no calculations, no papers or articles. And now we find out, that he doesn't even put together his own slide presentation. What exactly DOES this man do, besides take people to lunch and ask for donations?

Let me present to you…



Richard Gage: The Activist

What Richard Gage does do besides the aforementioned, is lecturing. He tours around the U.S. presenting his slideshow and evidence. He also appears on radio shows. See his appearances here.

So, let’s recap.

We have this man, who
  • admits demolition is clearly outside the scope of his expertise
  • has made no original claims or calculations, and written no articles
  • copies the works of Griffin, Hoffman and Jones (who are also no experts of demolition)
  • has not even put together his own slide presentation
  • doesn’t know the basics of engineering
What he does:
  • presents the slide presentation made by others
  • makes radio appearances stating the claims made by others
  • asks for huge amounts of money
  • makes uninformed phone calls and letters to NIST
  • has an online petition demanding an independent investigation
  • exaggerates his popularity
Sounds more like your average rank-and-file activist than an expert, don’t you agree?

If you still want to become an AE911truth hero and donate $911/month to Gage, feel free to do so. If you want to take a medium sized A/E firm and Gage to lunch for $500, feel free to do so.

In the words of Gage and AE911Truth:
"We need many thousands of dollars per month to realize our goals."
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Old 27th December 2007, 09:47 AM   #2
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That is excellent, I will have to link it when I get a chance, unless Pat beats me to it.

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Gage: NIST, of course, is at fault, chiefly for stopping their entire $20 million 3 year investigation at the instant of aircraft impact into the building, uhh, before the structural behavior of the building, uhh, showed uhh, it's uhh collapse.
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Nice piece.

From a professional perspective, I would note that as you might rightly anticipate there are quite clear specialisms within architecture. Despite consistent baseline qualifications across the ARB register, few competent architects would seek to discuss meaningfully the practical aspects of fields such as (say) urban design, tall buildings work, conservation, and so on unless they were qualified (whether by experience or post-qualification study) in said subject.

It therefore puzzles me greatly that Mr. Gage - for all his varied CV - seeks to present his professional credentials in a way which would faily be interpreted as having brought a deeper understanding of tall buildings work. In my view it serves our professional poorly indeed.

One wonders if he holds himself out as an expert on French construction law and practice because of his work at Disneyland Resort Paris, which surely is a more concrete piece of experience than his limited (ha!) grasp of tall structures and building fabric failure.
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Good work, ref!

(P.S. One small typo that you may want to correct in the money section, where monthly is spelled "mothly": "But why do they need thousands of dollars on a mothly [sic] basis?")
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Old 27th December 2007, 03:56 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by ref View Post
"Gage: Well that's why they would have used thermite, which is a more silent, um, thermate, which is a special form of thermite with added sulfur, because obviously you wouldn't want a whole bunch of explosions to be heard, even though they were, it's not a perfect science. They have a hundred and eighteen witnesses just from those who were recorded in the oral histories."

When I made that phone call to CFRB I knew I'd get a classic quote out of it
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As usual, as always, VERY WELL DONE REF!

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Impressive dossier you put together there. I'll add my two cents, in that he is a fairly typical architect based on the description of the jobs he's done. He jobs are almost all on the small and non-sexy side. This means he's a practical architect and not a design architect (think Frank Gehry) so he knows how to make a building not leak.

He's been (or is) a Principal of a practice area which means he knows business and more importantly, it also means he knows how to make money on a project.


However, there's nothing in there that's even remotely near skyscraper or even tall building design. His latest project, "320K sq.ft. of high-rise office space" isn't that impressive. Let's assume that the building has a very small footprint and is only 25,000 square feet per floor (that's about as little as you can get away with because any less and each floor just becomes wasted by stairs, bathrooms, elevators and mechanical chases such that there's nothing really useable left). Even then, it's only 13 story building and this looks like the tallest project he's worked on.

I'd probably say that he's an above average to good architect, as far as the business side of making money for yourself and for your company and doing buildings that work. However, he makes an incredibly bad mistake that most architects know to avoid, and that is to admit architects know nothing about the structural design of buildings.
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And one more interesting detail. The “recruiter” for AE911Truth is, or at least used to be, a person called Doug Plumb. He has said his views do not represent the views of AE911Truth, but they are quite interesting. Doug Plumb believes in mini-nukes at WTC. He supports Judy Wood, who says Space Beams brought the WTC towers down. About FDNY Plumb says "When they cover up evidence or imply that there were huge fires and that wtc7 was expected to collapse then that is being an accomplice. Its the same thing as murder." His views are expressed in a discussion thread here.
I had an e-mail exchange with Plumb a month or two ago. Believe it or not, he's actually dumber than what the above quote indicates.
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Very nice as usual Ref

I just skimmed over it, but I'll give it a thorough read later on.
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Nice work, Ref. I would point out as well that Gage also references some other, even less reputable sources as well. For example, he says in Blueprint "Let's hear from Mark Loiseaux", but what we actually hear is Dylan Avery quoting Christopher Bollyn, who claimed to have gotten a quote from Loiseaux. He also makes extensive use of 9-11 Mysteries in his presentation, which of course was inspired by Eric Hufschmid.
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Old 27th December 2007, 10:23 PM   #11
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Wow! Very nice write-up, REF!
It will take a bit to check out all of the links, but it looks like a great job of debunking lunacy with solid evidence.
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Old 27th December 2007, 10:48 PM   #12
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Top work, Ref.

I found this quote interesting (bolding mine):

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"Our responsibilities, time commitment and expenses are growing dramatically with our increasing success. We also must purchase computers, printers, software, and handle traveling and legal expenses. Our efforts and growth cannot be sustained without your help."
Computers? Printers? WTF? He seems to need a lot of office supplies for someone who hasn't actually produced any original work.

What does he need this stuff for? Is he writing his own WTC collapse model in BASIC?
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Old 27th December 2007, 11:18 PM   #13
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Good work, ref!

(P.S. One small typo that you may want to correct in the money section, where monthly is spelled "mothly": "But why do they need thousands of dollars on a mothly [sic] basis?")
Thanks! I will correct that little typo
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Old 27th December 2007, 11:24 PM   #14
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And thanks everyone!

Brainster, I knew I forgot something.

CHF, it's very hard to believe

And Architect & Newton's Bit, thanks for your professional commentary!
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Old 27th December 2007, 11:37 PM   #15
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Great work Ref, bookmarked.
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NB makes the point about design architects. I'd go a wee bit further than that.

Let's set to one side the "great" architects - Zaha, Norman, Mies, and so on - for a moment. Amongst the mere mortals lefts there is a clear split betwixt those whose skills are design led and those who focus on the actual technical detail and construction process. Usually this is related to place of study; for example in Scotland those of us who studied at Strathclyde, Herriot Watt, or Aberdeen have traditionally focussed much more on technical issues than (say) Glasgow School of Art (the name gives it away, eh?).

Now if Gage had studied at my Alma Matter, Strathclyde, then he would have had a compulsory 2 years of structures (pretty much baseline across all UK architecture courses) plus the option of a further 1-2 years of elective study. Other technical subjects strongly pushed included building fabric failure (i.e. analysis of defects), fire engineering, and so on.

Notwithstanding NB's comments, I'd say that based on his CV Gage's skills probably lay in project management. He certainly gives us little information to believe that he understands structures in any meaningful way, likewise fire engineering, likewise foresnic analysis of building fabric issues.

What concerns me isn't this apparent skills gap, but rather that Gage in no way seems to appreciate that it prevents him talking with any weight on the subject. I've met this kind of attitude at Public Local Inquiries and expert witness work, where bluffing or sheer idiocy simply don't cut it 99% of the time. What I've never quite managed to work out is the extent to which proponents of this "art" do it on purpose.

Perhaps the money blinds them to the reality?
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A minor curiosity.

Their population of building experts has dropped from 231 yesterday to 230 today.

Exponential growth, Gage?
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Old 28th December 2007, 06:41 AM   #18
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A minor curiosity.

Their population of building experts has dropped from 231 yesterday to 230 today.

Exponential growth, Gage?
It should actually be at the most 229. I have "this friend" that made up a name and it is still listed. "My friend" asked that his name be removed, yet it is still up there. (Cameron Porter PHD)

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Way to go Gage. You just blew it for all the architects. Nice going.

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... [Gage] makes an incredibly bad mistake that most architects know to avoid, and that is to admit architects know nothing about the structural design of buildings.

I thought it was a mark of integrity for an individual or a group to freely and openly admit not knowing about something.

In a thread that is supposed to make Gage look ... what? ... average?... is that the motiff here? ... your quote sure makes architects look like a bunch of charlatans.
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I've got a query:

He starts out as a draftsman at various institutions, up until May 1984. Then he obviously takes some time off to do his B Arch, which he completes in 1986, and then, according to his CV, jumps straight into a principal role, directing 4 arch staff?

I find this strange considering his freshly-graduated status...
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"I thought it was a mark of integrity for an individual or a group to freely and openly admit not knowing about something."

Uhh, not when they are at the same claiming they have some valuable insight of the structural failures on 911.
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A minor curiosity.

Their population of building experts has dropped from 231 yesterday to 230 today.

Exponential growth, Gage?
That was due to a discovery made by a Dutch blogger from Zapburu (I'm a newbie here so I can't post links, but I'm sure you can find it with google). He found out that a man called Hans van Willigenburg was on the memberlist of aetruth9/11. There is a screen capture of him at Zapburu under the title "koffietijd". His status was supposedly checked.

Hans van Willigenburg is not an architect nor an engineer but is in fact a Dutch televison- and radiohost.
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That was due to a discovery made by a Dutch blogger from Zapburu (I'm a newbie here so I can't post links, but I'm sure you can find it with google). He found out that a man called Hans van Willigenburg was on the memberlist of aetruth9/11. There is a screen capture of him at Zapburu under the title "koffietijd". His status was supposedly checked.

Hans van Willigenburg is not an architect nor an engineer but is in fact a Dutch televison- and radiohost.
Thanks for the info

Here is the screen cap:



One has to wonder, how many of those 230 are actually true members.
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His current employer, Akol & Yoshii Architects, is not found by the ZIP code search of the AIA website. Indication of a small firm?


I don't think he works for this firm.
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His current employer, Akol & Yoshii Architects, is not found by the ZIP code search of the AIA website. Indication of a small firm?


I don't think he works for this firm.
How come?

His CV says

Oct 2003 To Present
Akol & Yoshii Architects Walnut Creek, CA
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It should actually be at the most 229. I have "this friend" that made up a name and it is still listed. "My friend" asked that his name be removed, yet it is still up there. (Cameron Porter PHD)

Awesome job Ref !!!
The name Cameron Porter seems to be removed now

I updated the article with the Hans Van Willigenburg story.
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