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Old 1st March 2008, 11:12 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by cisco View Post
Ahh, I wasn't aware of this practice. Do all Muslims do this?
For paradise it is a traditional entry requirement. That's why it is unlikely you will see a suicide bomber with a beard and long hair.

Ok, back to work. You reffers have been distracting me all day!
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Old 1st March 2008, 11:03 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by MarkyX View Post
Wow the 9/11 deniers are contradicting themselves, again?
who is denying 9/11? what are you talking about? What contadiction? Are you not able to tell the difference between LIHOP and dropping the ball?
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Old 1st March 2008, 11:37 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by cisco View Post
The ironic thing about this is, there might have been criminal negligence surrounding 9/11. If the trooth movement hadn't polluted the discourse with so much noise and lies about bombs, missiles, thermite, stand down orders, etc, it would probably be a lot easier to get further investigation.

Now anyone with any credibility who tries to look into it is going to be stonewalled as a nutcase. The trooth lied to try to get their way, and shot themselves in the foot in the process!

That, troothers, is a lesson on maturity, honesty, integrity, and civil discourse.
Excellent post. I couldn't agree more at this point.

I can't help but to ask. In an alternative universe without accusations of therm?te, nukes, stand downs, etc, does a new investigation have merit (given current and reasonable criticisms of CR)?

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Old 2nd March 2008, 12:06 AM   #84
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Originally Posted by LastChild View Post
Why did a suicide hijacker book future flights? Was he planning a vacation for himself and his virgins?

And why was that left out of the 9/11 commission report?
If you are doing something illegal, it is always a good idea to look as innocent as possible. Do not attract unwarrented attention prior to the point of no return.

Don't get stopped at an unexpected checkpoint. There is always the possibility that security measures to prevent the discovery of your plans may have been compromised. These were not "ignorant camelk jockeys. They were mostly highly-educated but disaffected middle-class people with a serious grudge against us based on our trade policies and our affronts to their culture, as they saw it. Their shiek was a civil engineer, you know.

Ahmed Ressam got busted because he appeared too nervous at a border crossing point and a Border Patrol officer started looking for stuff.

Having a one-way ticket to some place where you have no residence looks a little suspicious, if someone is looking for a bunch of men of a certain ethnicity who don't seem to have any reason to be where they are.

Just look at all the negative attention they had already drawn to themselves by not measuring up fully to the expectations of their flight instructors.

Is a kamikaze pilot going to worry about spendinmg too much money on an item he will not likely use?

Where is the real oddity here?
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Old 2nd March 2008, 09:45 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Sizzler View Post
I can't help but to ask. In an alternative universe without accusations of therm?te, nukes, stand downs, etc, does a new investigation have merit (given current and reasonable criticisms of CR)?
I'm not sure what CR means so forgive me if I'm unable to address it in this post.

In my humble opinion, I think further investigation into the handling of the event - before and after - as well as the construction of the WTC and possible code violations, is still warranted. At this point the investigators would have to take pains and go out of their way to show that they're not testing Cheney's blood for reptilian DNA, but that shouldn't stop them if their findings will help produce safer buildings and more efficient counterterrorism procedures.

That said, I can't say for sure that this isn't already taking place. I think the most recent Hardfire guest is working for safer buildings. I know NIST is.
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