'Shoah' mistranslated as 'Holocaust' - Page 2

Sunni Man · 2nd March 2008, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Classy!

Classy=No

Tactical=Yes

WildCat · 2nd March 2008, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Sunni Man

Classy=No

Tactical=Yes

So the rights of Palestinian women and children end when Hamas deems that their deaths are necessary for tactical reasons... wow!

Sunni Man · 2nd March 2008, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

So the rights of Palestinian women and children end when Hamas deems that their deaths are necessary for tactical reasons... wow!

In Vietnam the VC used similar tactics, and we all know the outcome of that war.

Pardalis · 2nd March 2008, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

Wait, I thought the holocaust was a "fairy tale"?

Good catch Wildcat. Funny how they are willing to use the Holocaust to characterize the Israeli as Nazis, but at the same time deny the Holocaust to keep saying that Israel is not legitimate.

webfusion · 2nd March 2008, 09:40 AM

Quote:

...we all know the outcome of that war. (vietnam)

Yep, the Khmer Rouge genocide. The horrors of Cambodia & Laos.

Gaza pales by comparison. Actually, there is no comparison.
And in the meantime, the IDF is doing an excellent job.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959917.html
Barak asked Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann on Sunday to determine the legality of the IDF attacks (against populated areas in gaza which are being used as 'cover' for launching missiles).

Sunni Man · 2nd March 2008, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by webfusion

Barak asked Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann on Sunday to determine the legality of the IDF attacks (against populated areas in gaza which are being used as 'cover' for launching missiles).

What a joke!!!!!!!!!!

Like the fascist Israelie government really cares about violating human rights.

So they ask each other if it's OK.

I wonder what the answer will be??????

mrbaracuda · 2nd March 2008, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by yairhol

What a fanatic. How do people reach such radical opinions unless all they're after is violence and war.

*cough* Islam is peace once everyone who disagrees is dead ! *cough*

Please yairhol, why are you so anti-islamic and such an islamophobe, huh?

Originally Posted by WildCat

Hamas bravely uses women and children as shields

The link doesn't support your claim?!

Originally Posted by Pardalis

Good catch Wildcat. Funny how they are willing to use the Holocaust to characterize the Israeli as Nazis, but at the same time deny the Holocaust to keep saying that Israel is not legitimate.

It's the same with twoofers, isn't it?

Sunni Man, who is responsible for the 9/11 attacks?

FireGarden · 2nd March 2008, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by tkingdoll

OK, I call troll. That's one cliche too many.

Originally Posted by pchams

I call troll/puppet/fundy/disinfo
Sunni Man can't really be that ignorant

Quoted for truth.

webfusion · 2nd March 2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

A reference to real news article (by webfusion): "Barak asked Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann on Sunday to determine the legality of these attacks." -------

A typical SunniMan reply:
What a joke!!!!!!!!!!

Like the fascist Israelie government really cares about violating human rights.

So they ask each other if it's OK.

I wonder what the answer will be??????

Why wonder? The answer will be forthcoming, and you can read all about it.
I asked you previously why you are here in the JREF forums, and so far, I am still trying to figure it out. Your contributions have been non-sequiturs, and brusque, and not helping to make discussion with you easy. You ducked-out of the first thread you joined (with a quick "goodby") and now you are taking pot-shots wherever you can.

Here's what we know so far about you:
Holocaust denier.
Islamic radical.
Anti-Israelie (or however you wish to spell it)
Personal attacker.

I have yet to report you to the moderators for breaching your membership agreement here, but you're treading on thin ice.
(Primary Rule of Membership: We will not tolerate "Extremely cruel or hateful content directed toward another user")

As an Israeli citizen, I do consider your statements to be both cruel and hateful, in the extreme.

This sort of tripe from SunniMan needs to stop, right here, and right now:

Now the zionist jews of Israel have became the modern day Nazis.
And have actually become worse in the sick art of brutality and torture than the nazis ever were.

Take that crap somewhere else, SunniMan, it doesn't fly here.

Sunni Man · 2nd March 2008, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by webfusion

Why wonder? The answer will be forthcoming, and you can read all about it.
I asked you previously why you are here in the JREF forums, and so far, I am still trying to figure it out. Your contributions have been non-sequiturs, and brusque, and not helping to make discussion with you easy. You ducked-out of the first thread you joined (with a quick "goodby") and now you are taking pot-shots wherever you can.

Here's what we know so far about you:
Holocaust denier.
Islamic radical.
Anti-Israelie (or however you wish to spell it)
Personal attacker.

I have yet to report you to the moderators for breaching your membership agreement here, but you're treading on thin ice.
(Primary Rule of Membership: We will not tolerate "Extremely cruel or hateful content directed toward another user")

As an Israeli citizen, I do consider your statements to be both cruel and hateful, in the extreme.

This sort of tripe from SunniMan needs to stop, right here, and right now:

Now the zionist jews of Israel have became the modern day Nazis.
And have actually become worse in the sick art of brutality and torture than the nazis ever were.

Take that crap somewhere else, SunniMan, it doesn't fly here.

You demanded that I leave another thread, so I did. Remember?

So why are you following me?

I have not EVER personally attacked anyone. Check it out.

I haven't violated any rules.

But I have been attacked many times on this forum. I am a man, so I can take it.

Weak posters are the ones crying to the modertors when their arguments are shot down and showed to be bogus.

What I am saying, is if you believe so strongly in your convictions. Then stand up and present them in an intellectual dialogue.

That's all that I do. I present what I believe in. And argue my point.

Because you finally meet someone who is intellectually superior, don't let it get you down.

Just try harder!!!!!

gtc · 2nd March 2008, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by The Fool

yep, when Chest thumping Idiots from Hamas talk of eradicating Israel I tend to think they are just chest thumping Idiots ranting for the consumption of extremists. Can't see this as much different. Is this guy trying to build support in the far right wing?

Extremist statements which are then "qualified" is a well known tactic to plant "this guy means business....and I like it" in the minds of hawkish radicals. The qualification tends to be shrugged off by the target audience along the lines of "well, he had to say that to stop the wimps moaning...but we know what he (wink wink)really means"

You might be right. I thought he was just using shoah to mean a disaster. Which would show that he didn't think about how many Palestinians who genuinely (albeit wrongly in my opinion) fear genocide would interpret shoah to mean another Holocaust.

If he actually wanted the Palestinians to interpret the word as meaning a new Holocaust, then that is even worse. I can imagine ordinary Palestinians would feel enormous fear at these words but I can't see the Palestinian extremists being anything but pleased to have their views seemingly vindicated. Not to mention the damage to Israel's reputation overseas.

mrbaracuda · 2nd March 2008, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by FireGarden

Quoted for truth.

Oh, I wouldn't be too surprised by his behaviour and viewpoints. I was shocked when my sister was becoming, well, let's call it retarded in her "argumentation".

Steve H · 2nd March 2008, 02:58 PM

Wow, gone for a couple weeks and some troll spouting perversions of Islam shows up here...

Heh, if you're looking for virgins in the afterlife Sunni Man you'll need to do more than just spout radical rhetoric on a bulletin-board, but you knew that right? So, I'm curious...do you really think the belief in or parroting of the perverted radicals that believe in a deity that rewards cowardly attacks on non-combatants, including women and children, with a 'Paradise' populated with horny virgins is reflective of true skepticism/critical thinking? I didn't think so.

He's just a troll webfusion fishing for a bite and ain't worth even a temporary rise in BP.

Anyway, responding to the OP - that choice of words wasn't politically correct, was it? Now was it a "Freudian slip" regarding potential Israeli plans for Gazan retribution in the same vein as the Holocaust? No. End of story.

Now that I explained everything, I leave you all in peace.

webfusion · 2nd March 2008, 03:01 PM

SunniMan asks -- "So why are you following me?"

I am not following you. I really have nothing to say to you.
I am just keeping an eye on you, as are we all.

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...1&postcount=39
(Personal attack against Wildcat)

Quote:

Weak posters are the ones crying to the moderators when their arguments are shot down and showed to be bogus.

You have not 'shot down' even one single thing presented here.

mrbaracuda · 2nd March 2008, 03:08 PM

Sunni Man actually said "Weak posters are the ones crying to the moderators when their arguments are shot down and showed to be bogus."?

What are those muslims on the streets whining to the authorities then? Ahahaha, oh man. Forbid this, forbid that.

Sunni Man · 2nd March 2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by webfusion

You have not 'shot down' even one single thing presented here.

You are correct. I haven't shot down everything presented.

Just all of yours!!

btw are you Wildcats attorney now?

What I said about him wasn't an attack. Just an opinion. There is a difference.

webfusion · 2nd March 2008, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Sunni Man

You are correct. I haven't shot down everything presented.

Just all of yours!!

What I said was:
"You have not 'shot down' even one single thing presented here."

Which posting (specifically) of mine was rebutted by you? I must have missed it.

Quote:

btw are you Wildcats attorney now?
What I said about him wasn't an attack. Just an opinion. There is a difference.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I am indeed WildCat's legal eagle, and have full-strength POA.
So, back off, pardner.

webfusion · 2nd March 2008, 03:28 PM

Earlier I posted something in this thread, without 'evidence' --- I should have taken a moment to provide some sort of link which gives a fair measure of support to my statement:

"This is all being orchestrated from Iran, and I would not put it past the Iranians to even join in themselves, with a barrage of Shihab-3 & 4 ballistic missiles, just for sport."

(from Post # 23.)

Tha Iranians are preparing the groundwork for just that eventuality, apparently...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959923.html
"The Islamic (people) must rise and the Islamic leaders must hit the (Zionist) occupying regime in the face with their nations' anger," Khamenei's statement said.

and

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has described the (IDF limited combat actions) as a holocaust against the Palestinian people.

Sunni Man · 2nd March 2008, 03:33 PM

Now that I think about it Web.

Think of all of the posts where you have offended me by attacking Islam and Muslims.

Two way street, pardner!

Sunni Man · 2nd March 2008, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by webfusion

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has described the (IDF limited combat actions) as a holocaust against the Palestinian people.

That's the truth. I am glad that you acknowledge it.

Steve H · 2nd March 2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by webfusion

Earlier I posted something in this thread, without 'evidence' --- I should have taken a moment to provide some sort of link which gives a fair measure of support to my statement:

"This is all being orchestrated from Iran, and I would not put it past the Iranians to even join in themselves, with a barrage of Shihab-3 & 4 ballistic missiles, just for sport."...

I'd be very surprised if the Iranians actually got overtly involved themselves, that's not their style, although I believe it's quite possible that if Israel launches a Gazan invasion Iran would encourage Hezbollah to stir up some trouble on Israel's northern border region.

gtc · 2nd March 2008, 03:44 PM

Sunni,

Either you are acknowledging that Abbas has described the operations as a holocaust or you are delberately misrepresenting what webfusion wrote.

Either way you are doing your credibility no good.

mrbaracuda · 2nd March 2008, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Sunni Man

Think of all of the posts where you have offended me by attacking Islam and Muslims.

You still haven't pointed out how that one article is being "full of anti-islamic propaganda" or whatever you said it was.

webfusion · 2nd March 2008, 05:44 PM

Steve H -- I dunno. Those mullahas are nuts. So is Ahmadinejad.
In December of 1990, most people were saying that SCUDs were not going to be fired at Israel by Iraq, it was just "too, too unlikely", and yet, all through January, February and March, we lived through the barrages of nightly incoming ballistic missiles in Ramat Gan.

You are right about not getting into a pissing contest with SunniMan, he's sure not worth it.

For the record, I have not posted anything detrimental about Muslims, nor denigrated Islam.

I entered this thread at Post #6, giving a Hebrew word for "disaster" and there certainly was nothing offered by me within this thread even remotely insulting to Islam.

The only other thread where I was engaged with SunniMan was THIS ONE:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...3&postcount=63
(where I related a parable illustrating the propensity of Arabs to believe their own lies)

Perhaps he's referring to a question I asked about a book illustration?
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...&postcount=147
(Never got any answer to that question of what he thinks, BTW, since he refused to look at it.)

You know what, I believe that I'll just sit here for a while and see what inanity pops up next from this SunniMan. He's just up to Post #170-something and keeps on going (like the Energizer Bunny, banging away on his little drum).

Nancarrow · 3rd March 2008, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Sunni Man

The real meaning of Shoah should be changed to Fraud

Oh, you lovable little scamp, you!

dudalb · 6th March 2008, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by gtc

Sunni,

Either you are acknowledging that Abbas has described the operations as a holocaust or you are delberately misrepresenting what webfusion wrote.

Either way you are doing your credibility no good.

I don't think Sunni Man has any credibility left at this point.

Sunni Man · 6th March 2008, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I don't think Sunni Man has any credibility left at this point.

Why attack me? All I do is tell the Truth? Is that so bad?

dudalb · 6th March 2008, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Sunni Man

Why attack me? All I do is tell the Truth? Is that so bad?

Cleon · 6th March 2008, 07:57 PM

A gentle reminder, from member (not mod) Cleon:

If you do not feed the trolls, they wither away and die. Please do not feed the trolls. Feeding trolls is bad. Like, crossing-the-streams bad.

So help me, I will get Wolfman and sic Izzy the Blue Thing on you people...

mrbaracuda · 10th March 2008, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Cleon

A gentle reminder, from member (not mod) Cleon:

If you do not feed the trolls, they wither away and die. Please do not feed the trolls. Feeding trolls is bad. Like, crossing-the-streams bad.

So help me, I will get Wolfman and sic Izzy the Blue Thing on you people...

Yea, and I think we should stop feeding the trolls in Gaza and "Palestine", too. Hopefully they will too just wither away and die.

Oh wait, that would be evil.

Cleon · 12th March 2008, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by mrbaracuda

Yea, and I think we should stop feeding the trolls in Gaza and "Palestine", too. Hopefully they will too just wither away and die.

Oh wait, that would be evil.

Mass murder usually is.

mrbaracuda · 12th March 2008, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Cleon

Mass murder usually is.

It's what defeated the Nazis, right?

Right?

a_unique_person · 13th March 2008, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by webfusion

Steve H -- I dunno. Those mullahas are nuts. So is Ahmadinejad.
In December of 1990, most people were saying that SCUDs were not going to be fired at Israel by Iraq, it was just "too, too unlikely", and yet, all through January, February and March, we lived through the barrages of nightly incoming ballistic missiles in Ramat Gan.

They were an effective weapon of terror, for a short time. In realistic terms, they were worthless. Israel has nukes, and any real threat to it would have seen the state of Iraq wiped out.

mrbaracuda · 13th March 2008, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

They were an effective weapon of terror, for a short time. In realistic terms, they were worthless. Israel has nukes, and any real threat to it would have seen the state of Iraq wiped out.

And in realistic reality, they were fired upon Jooos.

2nd March 2008, 08:49 AM	#41
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863	Originally Posted by WildCat Classy! Classy=No Tactical=Yes
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2nd March 2008, 09:09 AM	#43
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863	Originally Posted by WildCat So the rights of Palestinian women and children end when Hamas deems that their deaths are necessary for tactical reasons... wow! In Vietnam the VC used similar tactics, and we all know the outcome of that war.
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2nd March 2008, 09:40 AM	#45
webfusion Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Near I-95 Posts: 6,216	Quote: ...we all know the outcome of that war. (vietnam) Yep, the Khmer Rouge genocide. The horrors of Cambodia & Laos. Gaza pales by comparison. Actually, there is no comparison. And in the meantime, the IDF is doing an excellent job. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959917.html Barak asked Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann on Sunday to determine the legality of the IDF attacks (against populated areas in gaza which are being used as 'cover' for launching missiles).
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2nd March 2008, 09:47 AM	#46
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863	Originally Posted by webfusion Barak asked Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann on Sunday to determine the legality of the IDF attacks (against populated areas in gaza which are being used as 'cover' for launching missiles). What a joke!!!!!!!!!! Like the fascist Israelie government really cares about violating human rights. So they ask each other if it's OK. I wonder what the answer will be??????
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2nd March 2008, 11:08 AM	#47
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by yairhol What a fanatic. How do people reach such radical opinions unless all they're after is violence and war. cough Islam is peace once everyone who disagrees is dead ! cough Please yairhol, why are you so anti-islamic and such an islamophobe, huh? Originally Posted by WildCat Hamas bravely uses women and children as shields The link doesn't support your claim?! Originally Posted by Pardalis Good catch Wildcat. Funny how they are willing to use the Holocaust to characterize the Israeli as Nazis, but at the same time deny the Holocaust to keep saying that Israel is not legitimate. It's the same with twoofers, isn't it? Sunni Man, who is responsible for the 9/11 attacks?
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2nd March 2008, 09:06 AM	#42
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,139	Originally Posted by Sunni Man Classy=No Tactical=Yes So the rights of Palestinian women and children end when Hamas deems that their deaths are necessary for tactical reasons... wow!

2nd March 2008, 09:26 AM	#44
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by WildCat Wait, I thought the holocaust was a "fairy tale"? Good catch Wildcat. Funny how they are willing to use the Holocaust to characterize the Israeli as Nazis, but at the same time deny the Holocaust to keep saying that Israel is not legitimate.

2nd March 2008, 11:49 AM	#48
FireGarden Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Spannungsbogen -- without a visa Posts: 5,043	Originally Posted by tkingdoll OK, I call troll. That's one cliche too many. Originally Posted by pchams I call troll/puppet/fundy/disinfo Sunni Man can't really be that ignorant Quoted for truth.
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2nd March 2008, 02:15 PM	#49
webfusion Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Near I-95 Posts: 6,216	This is ostensibly a skeptic's forum Quote: A reference to real news article (by webfusion): "Barak asked Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann on Sunday to determine the legality of these attacks." ------- A typical SunniMan reply: What a joke!!!!!!!!!! Like the fascist Israelie government really cares about violating human rights. So they ask each other if it's OK. I wonder what the answer will be?????? Why wonder? The answer will be forthcoming, and you can read all about it. I asked you previously why you are here in the JREF forums, and so far, I am still trying to figure it out. Your contributions have been non-sequiturs, and brusque, and not helping to make discussion with you easy. You ducked-out of the first thread you joined (with a quick "goodby") and now you are taking pot-shots wherever you can. Here's what we know so far about you: Holocaust denier. Islamic radical. Anti-Israelie (or however you wish to spell it) Personal attacker. I have yet to report you to the moderators for breaching your membership agreement here, but you're treading on thin ice. (Primary Rule of Membership: We will not tolerate "Extremely cruel or hateful content directed toward another user") As an Israeli citizen, I do consider your statements to be both cruel and hateful, in the extreme. This sort of tripe from SunniMan needs to stop, right here, and right now: Now the zionist jews of Israel have became the modern day Nazis. And have actually become worse in the sick art of brutality and torture than the nazis ever were. Take that crap somewhere else, SunniMan, it doesn't fly here.

2nd March 2008, 02:35 PM	#50
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863	Originally Posted by webfusion Why wonder? The answer will be forthcoming, and you can read all about it. I asked you previously why you are here in the JREF forums, and so far, I am still trying to figure it out. Your contributions have been non-sequiturs, and brusque, and not helping to make discussion with you easy. You ducked-out of the first thread you joined (with a quick "goodby") and now you are taking pot-shots wherever you can. Here's what we know so far about you: Holocaust denier. Islamic radical. Anti-Israelie (or however you wish to spell it) Personal attacker. I have yet to report you to the moderators for breaching your membership agreement here, but you're treading on thin ice. (Primary Rule of Membership: We will not tolerate "Extremely cruel or hateful content directed toward another user") As an Israeli citizen, I do consider your statements to be both cruel and hateful, in the extreme. This sort of tripe from SunniMan needs to stop, right here, and right now: Now the zionist jews of Israel have became the modern day Nazis. And have actually become worse in the sick art of brutality and torture than the nazis ever were. Take that crap somewhere else, SunniMan, it doesn't fly here. You demanded that I leave another thread, so I did. Remember? So why are you following me? I have not EVER personally attacked anyone. Check it out. I haven't violated any rules. But I have been attacked many times on this forum. I am a man, so I can take it. Weak posters are the ones crying to the modertors when their arguments are shot down and showed to be bogus. What I am saying, is if you believe so strongly in your convictions. Then stand up and present them in an intellectual dialogue. That's all that I do. I present what I believe in. And argue my point. Because you finally meet someone who is intellectually superior, don't let it get you down. Just try harder!!!!!
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2nd March 2008, 02:43 PM	#51
gtc Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the downunderverse Posts: 7,114	Originally Posted by The Fool yep, when Chest thumping Idiots from Hamas talk of eradicating Israel I tend to think they are just chest thumping Idiots ranting for the consumption of extremists. Can't see this as much different. Is this guy trying to build support in the far right wing? Extremist statements which are then "qualified" is a well known tactic to plant "this guy means business....and I like it" in the minds of hawkish radicals. The qualification tends to be shrugged off by the target audience along the lines of "well, he had to say that to stop the wimps moaning...but we know what he (wink wink)really means" You might be right. I thought he was just using shoah to mean a disaster. Which would show that he didn't think about how many Palestinians who genuinely (albeit wrongly in my opinion) fear genocide would interpret shoah to mean another Holocaust. If he actually wanted the Palestinians to interpret the word as meaning a new Holocaust, then that is even worse. I can imagine ordinary Palestinians would feel enormous fear at these words but I can't see the Palestinian extremists being anything but pleased to have their views seemingly vindicated. Not to mention the damage to Israel's reputation overseas.

2nd March 2008, 02:50 PM	#52
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by FireGarden Quoted for truth. Oh, I wouldn't be too surprised by his behaviour and viewpoints. I was shocked when my sister was becoming, well, let's call it retarded in her "argumentation".

2nd March 2008, 02:58 PM	#53
Steve H Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 148	Wow, gone for a couple weeks and some troll spouting perversions of Islam shows up here... Heh, if you're looking for virgins in the afterlife Sunni Man you'll need to do more than just spout radical rhetoric on a bulletin-board, but you knew that right? So, I'm curious...do you really think the belief in or parroting of the perverted radicals that believe in a deity that rewards cowardly attacks on non-combatants, including women and children, with a 'Paradise' populated with horny virgins is reflective of true skepticism/critical thinking? I didn't think so. He's just a troll webfusion fishing for a bite and ain't worth even a temporary rise in BP. Anyway, responding to the OP - that choice of words wasn't politically correct, was it? Now was it a "Freudian slip" regarding potential Israeli plans for Gazan retribution in the same vein as the Holocaust? No. End of story. Now that I explained everything, I leave you all in peace.
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2nd March 2008, 03:01 PM	#54
webfusion Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Near I-95 Posts: 6,216	SunniMan asks -- "So why are you following me?" I am not following you. I really have nothing to say to you. I am just keeping an eye on you, as are we all. http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...1&postcount=39 (Personal attack against Wildcat) Quote: Weak posters are the ones crying to the moderators when their arguments are shot down and showed to be bogus. You have not 'shot down' even one single thing presented here.

2nd March 2008, 03:08 PM	#55
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Sunni Man actually said "Weak posters are the ones crying to the moderators when their arguments are shot down and showed to be bogus."? What are those muslims on the streets whining to the authorities then? Ahahaha, oh man. Forbid this, forbid that.

2nd March 2008, 03:08 PM	#56
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863	Originally Posted by webfusion You have not 'shot down' even one single thing presented here. You are correct. I haven't shot down everything presented. Just all of yours!! btw are you Wildcats attorney now? What I said about him wasn't an attack. Just an opinion. There is a difference.
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2nd March 2008, 03:16 PM	#57
webfusion Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Near I-95 Posts: 6,216	Originally Posted by Sunni Man You are correct. I haven't shot down everything presented. Just all of yours!! What I said was: "You have not 'shot down' even one single thing presented here." Which posting (specifically) of mine was rebutted by you? I must have missed it. Quote: btw are you Wildcats attorney now? What I said about him wasn't an attack. Just an opinion. There is a difference. Yes, as a matter of fact, I am indeed WildCat's legal eagle, and have full-strength POA. So, back off, pardner.

2nd March 2008, 03:28 PM	#58
webfusion Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Near I-95 Posts: 6,216	Earlier I posted something in this thread, without 'evidence' --- I should have taken a moment to provide some sort of link which gives a fair measure of support to my statement: "This is all being orchestrated from Iran, and I would not put it past the Iranians to even join in themselves, with a barrage of Shihab-3 & 4 ballistic missiles, just for sport." (from Post # 23.) Tha Iranians are preparing the groundwork for just that eventuality, apparently... http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959923.html "The Islamic (people) must rise and the Islamic leaders must hit the (Zionist) occupying regime in the face with their nations' anger," Khamenei's statement said. and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has described the (IDF limited combat actions) as a holocaust against the Palestinian people.
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2nd March 2008, 03:33 PM	#59
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863	Now that I think about it Web. Think of all of the posts where you have offended me by attacking Islam and Muslims. Two way street, pardner!
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2nd March 2008, 03:35 PM	#60
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863	Originally Posted by webfusion Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has described the (IDF limited combat actions) as a holocaust against the Palestinian people. That's the truth. I am glad that you acknowledge it.
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863

2nd March 2008, 03:42 PM	#61
Steve H Thinker Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 148	Originally Posted by webfusion Earlier I posted something in this thread, without 'evidence' --- I should have taken a moment to provide some sort of link which gives a fair measure of support to my statement: "This is all being orchestrated from Iran, and I would not put it past the Iranians to even join in themselves, with a barrage of Shihab-3 & 4 ballistic missiles, just for sport."... I'd be very surprised if the Iranians actually got overtly involved themselves, that's not their style, although I believe it's quite possible that if Israel launches a Gazan invasion Iran would encourage Hezbollah to stir up some trouble on Israel's northern border region.
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2nd March 2008, 03:44 PM	#62
gtc Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the downunderverse Posts: 7,114	Sunni, Either you are acknowledging that Abbas has described the operations as a holocaust or you are delberately misrepresenting what webfusion wrote. Either way you are doing your credibility no good.
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2nd March 2008, 03:45 PM	#63
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by Sunni Man Think of all of the posts where you have offended me by attacking Islam and Muslims. You still haven't pointed out how that one article is being "full of anti-islamic propaganda" or whatever you said it was.

2nd March 2008, 05:44 PM	#64
webfusion Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Near I-95 Posts: 6,216	Steve H -- I dunno. Those mullahas are nuts. So is Ahmadinejad. In December of 1990, most people were saying that SCUDs were not going to be fired at Israel by Iraq, it was just "too, too unlikely", and yet, all through January, February and March, we lived through the barrages of nightly incoming ballistic missiles in Ramat Gan. You are right about not getting into a pissing contest with SunniMan, he's sure not worth it. For the record, I have not posted anything detrimental about Muslims, nor denigrated Islam. I entered this thread at Post #6, giving a Hebrew word for "disaster" and there certainly was nothing offered by me within this thread even remotely insulting to Islam. The only other thread where I was engaged with SunniMan was THIS ONE: http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...3&postcount=63 (where I related a parable illustrating the propensity of Arabs to believe their own lies) Perhaps he's referring to a question I asked about a book illustration? http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...&postcount=147 (Never got any answer to that question of what he thinks, BTW, since he refused to look at it.) You know what, I believe that I'll just sit here for a while and see what inanity pops up next from this SunniMan. He's just up to Post #170-something and keeps on going (like the Energizer Bunny, banging away on his little drum).
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3rd March 2008, 06:17 AM	#65
Nancarrow Chelonian Overlord Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 468	Originally Posted by Sunni Man The real meaning of Shoah should be changed to Fraud Oh, you lovable little scamp, you!
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6th March 2008, 04:22 PM	#66
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,848	Originally Posted by gtc Sunni, Either you are acknowledging that Abbas has described the operations as a holocaust or you are delberately misrepresenting what webfusion wrote. Either way you are doing your credibility no good. I don't think Sunni Man has any credibility left at this point.

6th March 2008, 04:25 PM	#67
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863	Originally Posted by dudalb I don't think Sunni Man has any credibility left at this point. Why attack me? All I do is tell the Truth? Is that so bad?
Sunni Man Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 863

6th March 2008, 04:35 PM	#68
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,848	Originally Posted by Sunni Man Why attack me? All I do is tell the Truth? Is that so bad?

6th March 2008, 07:57 PM	#69
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,536	A gentle reminder, from member (not mod) Cleon: If you do not feed the trolls, they wither away and die. Please do not feed the trolls. Feeding trolls is bad. Like, crossing-the-streams bad. So help me, I will get Wolfman and sic Izzy the Blue Thing on you people...
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10th March 2008, 05:37 AM	#70
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by Cleon A gentle reminder, from member (not mod) Cleon: If you do not feed the trolls, they wither away and die. Please do not feed the trolls. Feeding trolls is bad. Like, crossing-the-streams bad. So help me, I will get Wolfman and sic Izzy the Blue Thing on you people... Yea, and I think we should stop feeding the trolls in Gaza and "Palestine", too. Hopefully they will too just wither away and die. Oh wait, that would be evil.

12th March 2008, 05:09 PM	#71
Cleon King of the Pod People Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 20,536	Originally Posted by mrbaracuda Yea, and I think we should stop feeding the trolls in Gaza and "Palestine", too. Hopefully they will too just wither away and die. Oh wait, that would be evil. Mass murder usually is.
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12th March 2008, 05:47 PM	#72
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by Cleon Mass murder usually is. It's what defeated the Nazis, right? Right?

13th March 2008, 05:38 AM	#73
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mt Disappointment Posts: 33,341	Originally Posted by webfusion Steve H -- I dunno. Those mullahas are nuts. So is Ahmadinejad. In December of 1990, most people were saying that SCUDs were not going to be fired at Israel by Iraq, it was just "too, too unlikely", and yet, all through January, February and March, we lived through the barrages of nightly incoming ballistic missiles in Ramat Gan. They were an effective weapon of terror, for a short time. In realistic terms, they were worthless. Israel has nukes, and any real threat to it would have seen the state of Iraq wiped out.
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13th March 2008, 06:04 AM	#74
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by a_unique_person They were an effective weapon of terror, for a short time. In realistic terms, they were worthless. Israel has nukes, and any real threat to it would have seen the state of Iraq wiped out. And in realistic reality, they were fired upon Jooos.