Tips for travellers to TAM

renata · 23rd December 2003, 12:52 PM

This just hit the news

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TRAVEL/12/23....ap/index.html

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Foreigners entering U.S. airports and seaports -- except those from Western Europe and a handful of other countries -- will soon have their fingerprints scanned and their photographs snapped as part of a new program designed to enhance border security.

The program, to be up and running on January 5 at all 115 airports that handle international flights and 14 major seaports, will let Customs officials instantly check an immigrant or visitor's criminal background.

Welcome to our country

According to this link http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlib...QnA_102703.PDF
the lucky countries are :

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Andorra, Austria, Australia, Belgium, Brunei, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom (For citizens with the unrestricted right of permanent abode in England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man.)

From personal experience, when I now fly- always have government issued ID, don't have anything metal on my body, not even a belt buckle, be prepared to take off shoes, don't take anything sharp on the plane, be early...I think that is it

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos · 23rd December 2003, 06:05 PM

Thank Ed they'll be checking for scumbags from Vatican City, Wallis & Futuna, and Vanuatu.

~~ Paul

UnrepentantSinner · 23rd December 2003, 06:08 PM

I saw on the news tonight that part of the "chatter" that's been going on has been about Las Vegas being a potential target for terror.

The Central Scrutinizer · 23rd December 2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
Thank Ed they'll be checking for scumbags from Vatican City,

Will they be checking the pope's carry on for young boys?

Morwen · 23rd December 2003, 09:09 PM

Canada is not on the list of "goodies"? I'm shocked!

dissonance · 24th December 2003, 04:03 AM

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Originally posted by Morwen
Canada is not on the list of "goodies"? I'm shocked!

Actually, if you look at the official government document Renata linked to, there's a whole section on how Canadians are exempt from this, because Canadians don't need Visas to enter to the US, and these measures only affect people who need Visas.

darling · 24th December 2003, 06:10 AM

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Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I saw on the news tonight that part of the "chatter" that's been going on has been about Las Vegas being a potential target for terror.

This is news? Celine Dion has been performing there for months...

Jeff Corey · 24th December 2003, 06:18 AM

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Jeff Corey · 24th December 2003, 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by budddyh
This is news? Celine Dion has been performing there for months...

Ashcroft is soft on Canadian terrorists.

thornhill · 24th December 2003, 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by budddyh
This is news? Celine Dion has been performing there for months...

It is all part of our devious Canadian plot to overthrow American culture ... maybe we can send back Alan Thicke next ... heh heh heh

kittynh · 24th December 2003, 03:57 PM

this is all a Xian plot to discredit JREF! Sure Pirate Lad and USA are going to raise heck, but terrorism, no way!

Then again, the skepchicks do have a few things planned. but is it terror when it is for the good of womenkind? I think not....

Pirate_Lad · 24th December 2003, 06:11 PM

Raise heck? Nah. I'm going to be a good boy. I promise.

UnrepentantSinner · 24th December 2003, 08:06 PM

I'm not making the same promise.

kittynh · 25th December 2003, 08:10 AM

just remember...

one man's terrorist is another man's skepchick....

PeterB · 25th December 2003, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I saw on the news tonight that part of the "chatter" that's been going on has been about Las Vegas being a potential target for terror.

The moron who was been trying to get my web sites closed down for years posted the following to a Usenet newsgroup this week:

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Bowditch is an ardent and obessive supporter of the Al-Qeda and terrorism in general. He will not be allowed to enter the US.

See you all in Las Vegas.

WonderfulWorld · 26th December 2003, 08:28 AM

Does anyone here know whether current airport security procedures prefer a passport to a state driver's license for domestic flights? I heard something about passports being preferred (because they're a bit more secure), but that was some time ago. I won't be flying direct to Las Vegas, which might make things a bit easier given current news, but still....

Mike.

kittynh · 26th December 2003, 01:24 PM

AIrports and Canadians love passports. You don't need one, but if you want less hassle bring it. Unless you are kitten. Half her passport is in Arabic filled with Visas and permits from her trips to Jordan. I was told she's on a security list anyway because her passport causes problems. The list actually says she's a student not a terrorist, but it takes time for security to check on her...

However, having watched James Bond films for a few days, I'm glad they check up on her. Who knows what group could have brainwashed her while she was there?

23rd December 2003, 12:52 PM	#1
renata Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,334	Tips for travellers to TAM This just hit the news http://www.cnn.com/2003/TRAVEL/12/23....ap/index.html Quote: Foreigners entering U.S. airports and seaports -- except those from Western Europe and a handful of other countries -- will soon have their fingerprints scanned and their photographs snapped as part of a new program designed to enhance border security. The program, to be up and running on January 5 at all 115 airports that handle international flights and 14 major seaports, will let Customs officials instantly check an immigrant or visitor's criminal background. Welcome to our country According to this link http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlib...QnA_102703.PDF the lucky countries are : Quote: Andorra, Austria, Australia, Belgium, Brunei, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom (For citizens with the unrestricted right of permanent abode in England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man.) From personal experience, when I now fly- always have government issued ID, don't have anything metal on my body, not even a belt buckle, be prepared to take off shoes, don't take anything sharp on the plane, be early...I think that is it
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23rd December 2003, 06:05 PM	#2
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23rd December 2003, 06:08 PM	#3
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,353	I saw on the news tonight that part of the "chatter" that's been going on has been about Las Vegas being a potential target for terror.
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23rd December 2003, 08:48 PM	#4
The Central Scrutinizer Penultimate Amazing Pither Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The White Zone Posts: 42,266	Quote: Originally posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos Thank Ed they'll be checking for scumbags from Vatican City, Will they be checking the pope's carry on for young boys?
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23rd December 2003, 09:09 PM	#5
Morwen Reality junkie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 780	Canada is not on the list of "goodies"? I'm shocked!
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24th December 2003, 04:03 AM	#6
dissonance Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 274	Quote: Originally posted by Morwen Canada is not on the list of "goodies"? I'm shocked! Actually, if you look at the official government document Renata linked to, there's a whole section on how Canadians are exempt from this, because Canadians don't need Visas to enter to the US, and these measures only affect people who need Visas.

24th December 2003, 06:10 AM	#7
darling JREF Kid Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 351	Quote: Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner I saw on the news tonight that part of the "chatter" that's been going on has been about Las Vegas being a potential target for terror. This is news? Celine Dion has been performing there for months...
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24th December 2003, 06:18 AM	#8
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	.

24th December 2003, 06:18 AM	#9
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	Quote: Originally posted by budddyh This is news? Celine Dion has been performing there for months... Ashcroft is soft on Canadian terrorists.

24th December 2003, 06:45 AM	#10
thornhill New Blood Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 16	Quote: Originally posted by budddyh This is news? Celine Dion has been performing there for months... It is all part of our devious Canadian plot to overthrow American culture ... maybe we can send back Alan Thicke next ... heh heh heh
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24th December 2003, 03:57 PM	#11
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 22,706	this is all a Xian plot to discredit JREF! Sure Pirate Lad and USA are going to raise heck, but terrorism, no way! Then again, the skepchicks do have a few things planned. but is it terror when it is for the good of womenkind? I think not....
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24th December 2003, 06:11 PM	#12
Pirate_Lad Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,262	Raise heck? Nah. I'm going to be a good boy. I promise.
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24th December 2003, 08:06 PM	#13
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,353	I'm not making the same promise.
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25th December 2003, 08:10 AM	#14
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 22,706	just remember... one man's terrorist is another man's skepchick....
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25th December 2003, 04:23 PM	#15
PeterB Thinker Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wentworth Falls, in the beautiful Blue Mountains Posts: 126	Quote: Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner I saw on the news tonight that part of the "chatter" that's been going on has been about Las Vegas being a potential target for terror. The moron who was been trying to get my web sites closed down for years posted the following to a Usenet newsgroup this week: Quote: Bowditch is an ardent and obessive supporter of the Al-Qeda and terrorism in general. He will not be allowed to enter the US. See you all in Las Vegas.
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26th December 2003, 08:28 AM	#16
WonderfulWorld Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Frozen Tundra Posts: 92	Airport Security Does anyone here know whether current airport security procedures prefer a passport to a state driver's license for domestic flights? I heard something about passports being preferred (because they're a bit more secure), but that was some time ago. I won't be flying direct to Las Vegas, which might make things a bit easier given current news, but still.... Mike.
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26th December 2003, 01:24 PM	#17
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 22,706	AIrports and Canadians love passports. You don't need one, but if you want less hassle bring it. Unless you are kitten. Half her passport is in Arabic filled with Visas and permits from her trips to Jordan. I was told she's on a security list anyway because her passport causes problems. The list actually says she's a student not a terrorist, but it takes time for security to check on her... However, having watched James Bond films for a few days, I'm glad they check up on her. Who knows what group could have brainwashed her while she was there?
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