Ron Paul gets even nuttier...

dudalb · 7th November 2008, 02:53 PM

Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory.

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html

Wow.Just wow.
I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One.

moon1969 · 7th November 2008, 02:55 PM

NWO would be imposible. One world government with one religion? No way. NWO idea is insane. It just doesn"t make any sense.

Drudgewire · 7th November 2008, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ron Paul

I think McCain was obviously a back up candidate in case something happened where Obama didn’t win, they’d have been satisfied with McCain, but they have been positioning Obama for a long long time.

Going on a three-day meth binge isn't really the most dignified way to deal with not getting elected, dude.

Galileo · 7th November 2008, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory.

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html

Wow.Just wow.
I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One.

Who are the nuts who started the war on drugs? Not Ron Paul.

Galileo · 7th November 2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Drudgewire

Going on a three-day meth binge isn't really the most dignified way to deal with not getting elected, dude.

I have not heard that McCain went on a three-day meth binge, but I know he is getting old and takes alot of medication.

moon1969 · 7th November 2008, 03:08 PM

Just riduculous. Global government? Is Ron Paul talking about a place like North Korea?

dudalb · 7th November 2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Drudgewire

Going on a three-day meth binge isn't really the most dignified way to deal with not getting elected, dude.

That little "Obama was the Back up" statement by Paul was what made me think "The guy has gone to a whole new level of nuttiness".

Galileo · 7th November 2008, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by moon1969

NWO would be imposible. One world government with one religion? No way. NWO idea is insane. It just doesn"t make any sense.

I agree the NWO is insane. George Bush is insane for proposing it on Sepytember, 11, 1991. I oppose the NWO.

shuize · 7th November 2008, 03:11 PM

You folks have more patience than I do. This is as far as I read in that article:

"Appearing live on the Alex Jones show ..."

Galileo · 7th November 2008, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by shuize

You folks have more patience than I do. This is as far as I read in that article:

"Appearing live on the Alex Jones show ..."

Got news for you, but Ron Paul has been appearing on Jones' show for over 10 years.

Galileo · 7th November 2008, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by moon1969

Just riduculous. Global government? Is Ron Paul talking about a place like North Korea?

You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy.

moon1969 · 7th November 2008, 03:15 PM

Colin Powell is a liar and clown but hardly a NWO guy. Biden is a loudmouth. Everybody who is calling Zbigniew Brzezinski a russian hater might want to look what their russian heroes did to Afghanistan during 1979-1989. 1 million dead afghans and 6 million displaced afghans. That is what Russia did to Afghanistan on 1979-1989. And they are still doing that to Chechnya with their puppet Kadyrov.

Kthulhut Fhtagn · 7th November 2008, 03:29 PM

Fortunately for Paul he's still safe. He's a congressman and as a rule about congressmen no one knows who their damn congressman is. Right now there's a guy sitting in Texas' 14th district thinking "Whew, I'm glad Ron Paul doesn't represent me!"

Kthulhut Fhtagn · 7th November 2008, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Galileo

You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy.

The UN is an entity which controls the actions of the entire world? I always thought they were a confederation of voluntary member states designed to prevent large-scale international conflict and open dialogue in a neutral environment! Silly me...

Axiom_Blade · 7th November 2008, 03:48 PM

As is often the case, you clear away the nuttiness and you get a grain of truth:

Quote:

“Just as a Republican Congress wouldn’t say boo to a Republican Congress, you know that the Democratic Congress is NEVER going to stand up.”

“I think it is very dangerous and the first year is going to be the most dangerous year.” Paul stated. “Just think of Bush’s first year, he also had the 9/11 thing that he could use to scare everybody to death. And Obama will use the financial crisis, which will get worse, and there will be more military skirmishes around the world.” Paul asserted.

...

“It’s the philosophy of the Bush doctrine, which was that we have the right to preemptively strike anybody and then he even expanded that recently by saying we don’t have to invade and conquer, but we have the right to go in and bomb anybody without their permission, and that’s why we go into Pakistan and Syria, which are acts of war. So they have the tools to do it and the sentiment and most Americans are oblivious to what is happening.”

All "hope" and "change" hype aside, I think that many Americans are worried that Obama won't be that much different from Bush. Paul speaks to that, albeit in a very paranoid, conspiracy-minded way.

WildCat · 7th November 2008, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Galileo

I have not heard that McCain went on a three-day meth binge, but I know he is getting old and takes alot of medication.

Not as old as Ron Paul.

WildCat · 7th November 2008, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Kthulhut Fhtagn

The UN is an entity which controls the actions of the entire world? I always thought they were a confederation of voluntary member states designed to prevent large-scale international conflict and open dialogue in a neutral environment! Silly me...

And they fail spectacularly at that.

Checkmite · 7th November 2008, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Galileo

You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.

Kthulhut Fhtagn · 7th November 2008, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by WildCat

And they fail spectacularly at that.

Hey, I never said they did it well only that's what they're supposed to be doing!

CriticalThinking · 7th November 2008, 06:59 PM

dudalb, you clearly see the world as the media tells you. You clearly don't think for yourself. And you clearly are ignorant about a lot of issues. What can you offer the world that the other drones can't?

thesyntaxera · 7th November 2008, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.

It is better to try and fail than not try at all.

Axiom_Blade · 7th November 2008, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by CriticalThinking

What can you offer the world that the other drones can't?

Superior Grammar and Capitalization.

WildCat · 7th November 2008, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by thesyntaxera

It is better to try and fail than not try at all.

You either do or do not.
There is no try.

TexasJack · 7th November 2008, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Galileo

Got news for you, but Ron Paul has been appearing on Jones' show for over 10 years.

No wonder he's a loser.

dudalb · 8th November 2008, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by CriticalThinking

dudalb, you clearly see the world as the media tells you. You clearly don't think for yourself. And you clearly are ignorant about a lot of issues. What can you offer the world that the other drones can't?

Is "Drones" replacing "Sheeple" as the Tin Foil Brigade's term of abuse for anybody who does not buy into their crap?

steve s · 8th November 2008, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region.

The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.

[truther mode]
Obviously they commit a lot of errors so it won't be so obvious that they're all-powerful. Much the same way that the U.S. gubmint gives us rights and freedom so that we won't notice that we don't have any rights or freedom...or something like that.
[/truther mode]

Steve S.

Checkmite · 8th November 2008, 03:44 PM

His supporters aside, I am now convinced that Ron Paul, whatever his beliefs, is truly no different from any other politician. If he truly believes that the US elections are rigged, that the outcome is pre-determined by "them", and that the losing candidates are all, in fact, "back-up" candidates placed by the same "them" in case "their" main candidate loses (even though that can't happen, because "they" control the election), this leaves the question:

Why did Ron Paul bother running at all? Why did Ron Paul take - nay, ALLOW his supporters to give tens of MILLIONS of dollars to him, if he knew he could not possibly win? What is he doing with all his campaign money now, I wonder?

I'm sorry, but that's all money that his followers could have spent on more important things, like food, medicine, gasoline, or guns and ammunition to repel the reptilian shapeshifting kitten-eating rulers of the Earth when they try to take over the US even though they already completely control it.

Tin Foil Timothy · 8th November 2008, 05:47 PM

There will be a one world government eventually. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply a natural political development.

All the continental unions, the EU, African Union, Asian Union, North American Union ( when it arrives ), South American Union, etc will eventually merge into a World Union.

Tin Foil Timothy · 8th November 2008, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by moon1969

Colin Powell is a liar and clown but hardly a NWO guy. Biden is a loudmouth. Everybody who is calling Zbigniew Brzezinski a russian hater might want to look what their russian heroes did to Afghanistan during 1979-1989. 1 million dead afghans and 6 million displaced afghans. That is what Russia did to Afghanistan on 1979-1989. And they are still doing that to Chechnya with their puppet Kadyrov.

Not that much different to what the USA/UK have done to Iraq from 2003-2008 then is it?

leonAzul · 8th November 2008, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory.

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html

Wow.Just wow.
I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One.

Or rather, The None.

vox populi vox dei est

Democracy has spoken.

:-/

Ziggurat · 9th November 2008, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Foil Timothy

There will be a one world government eventually. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply a natural political development.

Marxism was largely predicated on the notion of historical inevitability. Didn't quite work out that way, but the lesson has been lost on many spectators. There are considerably forces pushing for political autonomy for various groups, even within currently politically unified states. One ignores such forces at their peril. Nothing about their demise is inevitable, let alone likely.

Ziggurat · 9th November 2008, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Tin Foil Timothy

Not that much different to what the USA/UK have done to Iraq from 2003-2008 then is it?

Such cluelessness. The number of Afghan refugees living outside the country decreased after the US invasion, because many people were able to return home after the Taliban were kicked out. That is considerably different. And while there has been a slow exodus of Iraqi sunnis, you will search in vain for refugee camps of the sort that the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan produced.

Next time reality calls, try picking up the phone.

thesyntaxera · 13th November 2008, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by WildCat

You either do or do not.
There is no try.

Thank you Yoda.

luchog · 13th November 2008, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.

That's just what they want you to think. In fact, they engineered those particular events, in order to expand their covert control over...

crap, I just don't have enough drugs handy to take that any farther.

BenBurch · 15th November 2008, 09:53 PM

On the OP: Sadly, two of my siblings believe anything he says.

Travis · 15th November 2008, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by BenBurch

On the OP: Sadly, two of my siblings believe anything he says.

Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings?

mrbaracuda · 16th November 2008, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Travis

Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings?

Ahahahah!

BenBurch · 16th November 2008, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Travis

Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings?

OK, I'm dense. I didn't get the joke.

[EDIT] OH! Just got it. Sheesh.

Patejdl · 18th November 2008, 03:08 AM

What is NWO btw? There's no definite meaning to the NWO thing.. old Bush spoke about it or even Sarkozy spoke about it ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkpHmjgg7xU )

Peace peace peace.. it's all they want but cannot bring us.. I understand NWO as a world with more "advanced politics" with something new and bigger that UN or EU thing and it will consume billions and billions of more money in order to fail even more miserably..

NWO in the heads of the utopistic politicians is just some "global governance" in order to secure "this and that" a.k.a sustainable developement...

And who got the "global governance award" of 1999? Walter Cronkite

Even Michael Douglas is a utopistic world governance guy.. proof? It's 17 minutes long but it's clear what is it all about since the first few mins.. a must watch!

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ry%20asi&emb=0

So global governance ideas and wishes are true :P But not in the Alex Jones way

Suddenly · 18th November 2008, 07:11 AM

I always figured that Ron Paul's getting into bed with Chuck Baldwin, a man that essentially advocates the creation of an American Theocracy, would end his credibility as to skeptics.

It also puts the lie to the claim that he is in fact a libertarian rather than what he really is, a state's rights authoritarian. He opposes federal power, but all bets are off when it comes to the state and local level. He endorsed a radical social conservative who believes all law is and should be based in the word of God...

7th November 2008, 02:53 PM	#1
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,836	Ron Paul gets even nuttier... Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory. http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html Wow.Just wow. I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One.

7th November 2008, 02:59 PM	#3
Drudgewire Critical Doofus Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 9,434	Originally Posted by Ron Paul I think McCain was obviously a back up candidate in case something happened where Obama didn’t win, they’d have been satisfied with McCain, but they have been positioning Obama for a long long time. Going on a three-day meth binge isn't really the most dignified way to deal with not getting elected, dude.
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7th November 2008, 03:11 PM	#9
shuize Master Poster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Japan Posts: 2,311	You folks have more patience than I do. This is as far as I read in that article: "Appearing live on the Alex Jones show ..."
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7th November 2008, 03:32 PM	#14
Kthulhut Fhtagn Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere in time and space... Posts: 1,939	Originally Posted by Galileo You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy. The UN is an entity which controls the actions of the entire world? I always thought they were a confederation of voluntary member states designed to prevent large-scale international conflict and open dialogue in a neutral environment! Silly me...
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7th November 2008, 03:57 PM	#18
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Third in line Posts: 14,892	Originally Posted by Galileo You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy. The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993. The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995. The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998. The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999. The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003. The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program. I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government.
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7th November 2008, 02:55 PM	#2
moon1969 Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,288	NWO would be imposible. One world government with one religion? No way. NWO idea is insane. It just doesn"t make any sense.

7th November 2008, 03:06 PM	#4
Galileo Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Middleton, WI Posts: 3,368	Originally Posted by dudalb Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory. http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html Wow.Just wow. I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One. Who are the nuts who started the war on drugs? Not Ron Paul.

7th November 2008, 03:08 PM	#5
Galileo Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Middleton, WI Posts: 3,368	Originally Posted by Drudgewire Going on a three-day meth binge isn't really the most dignified way to deal with not getting elected, dude. I have not heard that McCain went on a three-day meth binge, but I know he is getting old and takes alot of medication.

7th November 2008, 03:09 PM	#8
Galileo Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Middleton, WI Posts: 3,368	Originally Posted by moon1969 NWO would be imposible. One world government with one religion? No way. NWO idea is insane. It just doesn"t make any sense. I agree the NWO is insane. George Bush is insane for proposing it on Sepytember, 11, 1991. I oppose the NWO.

7th November 2008, 03:13 PM	#10
Galileo Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Middleton, WI Posts: 3,368	Originally Posted by shuize You folks have more patience than I do. This is as far as I read in that article: "Appearing live on the Alex Jones show ..." Got news for you, but Ron Paul has been appearing on Jones' show for over 10 years.

7th November 2008, 03:14 PM	#11
Galileo Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Middleton, WI Posts: 3,368	Originally Posted by moon1969 Just riduculous. Global government? Is Ron Paul talking about a place like North Korea? You don't believe the United Nations exists? That is bat-**** crazy.

7th November 2008, 03:15 PM	#12
moon1969 Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,288	Colin Powell is a liar and clown but hardly a NWO guy. Biden is a loudmouth. Everybody who is calling Zbigniew Brzezinski a russian hater might want to look what their russian heroes did to Afghanistan during 1979-1989. 1 million dead afghans and 6 million displaced afghans. That is what Russia did to Afghanistan on 1979-1989. And they are still doing that to Chechnya with their puppet Kadyrov.

7th November 2008, 03:29 PM	#13
Kthulhut Fhtagn Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere in time and space... Posts: 1,939	Fortunately for Paul he's still safe. He's a congressman and as a rule about congressmen no one knows who their damn congressman is. Right now there's a guy sitting in Texas' 14th district thinking "Whew, I'm glad Ron Paul doesn't represent me!"

7th November 2008, 03:48 PM	#15
Axiom_Blade Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,748	As is often the case, you clear away the nuttiness and you get a grain of truth: Quote: “Just as a Republican Congress wouldn’t say boo to a Republican Congress, you know that the Democratic Congress is NEVER going to stand up.” “I think it is very dangerous and the first year is going to be the most dangerous year.” Paul stated. “Just think of Bush’s first year, he also had the 9/11 thing that he could use to scare everybody to death. And Obama will use the financial crisis, which will get worse, and there will be more military skirmishes around the world.” Paul asserted. ... “It’s the philosophy of the Bush doctrine, which was that we have the right to preemptively strike anybody and then he even expanded that recently by saying we don’t have to invade and conquer, but we have the right to go in and bomb anybody without their permission, and that’s why we go into Pakistan and Syria, which are acts of war. So they have the tools to do it and the sentiment and most Americans are oblivious to what is happening.” All "hope" and "change" hype aside, I think that many Americans are worried that Obama won't be that much different from Bush. Paul speaks to that, albeit in a very paranoid, conspiracy-minded way.

7th November 2008, 03:55 PM	#16
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,101	Originally Posted by Galileo I have not heard that McCain went on a three-day meth binge, but I know he is getting old and takes alot of medication. Not as old as Ron Paul.

7th November 2008, 03:56 PM	#17
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,101	Originally Posted by Kthulhut Fhtagn The UN is an entity which controls the actions of the entire world? I always thought they were a confederation of voluntary member states designed to prevent large-scale international conflict and open dialogue in a neutral environment! Silly me... And they fail spectacularly at that.

7th November 2008, 04:50 PM	#19
Kthulhut Fhtagn Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere in time and space... Posts: 1,939	Originally Posted by WildCat And they fail spectacularly at that. Hey, I never said they did it well only that's what they're supposed to be doing!

7th November 2008, 06:59 PM	#20
CriticalThinking Scholar Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 58	dudalb, you clearly see the world as the media tells you. You clearly don't think for yourself. And you clearly are ignorant about a lot of issues. What can you offer the world that the other drones can't?
CriticalThinking Scholar Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 58

7th November 2008, 08:28 PM	#21
thesyntaxera Muse Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 882	Originally Posted by Checkmite The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993. The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995. The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998. The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999. The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003. The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program. I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government. It is better to try and fail than not try at all.

7th November 2008, 08:38 PM	#23
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,101	Originally Posted by thesyntaxera It is better to try and fail than not try at all. You either do or do not. There is no try.

7th November 2008, 09:22 PM	#24
TexasJack Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,881	Originally Posted by Galileo Got news for you, but Ron Paul has been appearing on Jones' show for over 10 years. No wonder he's a loser.

8th November 2008, 09:16 AM	#25
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,836	Originally Posted by CriticalThinking dudalb, you clearly see the world as the media tells you. You clearly don't think for yourself. And you clearly are ignorant about a lot of issues. What can you offer the world that the other drones can't? Is "Drones" replacing "Sheeple" as the Tin Foil Brigade's term of abuse for anybody who does not buy into their crap?

8th November 2008, 09:49 AM	#26
steve s Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,664	Originally Posted by Checkmite The United Nations tried, but could not stop Bosnia and Croatia from attacking one another in 1993. The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from bombing Bosnia in 1995. The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from bombing Iraq in 1998. The United Nations tried, but could not stop NATO from attacking Serbia in 1999. The United Nations tried, but could not stop the United States from invading Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003. The United Nations tried, but could not stop Russia from invading Georgia in 2008. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end the Israeli-Palestine conflict. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end civil war in the Congo region. The United Nations has tried, but has been functionally unable to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program. I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government. [truther mode] Obviously they commit a lot of errors so it won't be so obvious that they're all-powerful. Much the same way that the U.S. gubmint gives us rights and freedom so that we won't notice that we don't have any rights or freedom...or something like that. [/truther mode] Steve S.
steve s Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,664	__________________ "Nature abhors a moron." -- H. L. Mencken

8th November 2008, 03:44 PM	#27
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Third in line Posts: 14,892	His supporters aside, I am now convinced that Ron Paul, whatever his beliefs, is truly no different from any other politician. If he truly believes that the US elections are rigged, that the outcome is pre-determined by "them", and that the losing candidates are all, in fact, "back-up" candidates placed by the same "them" in case "their" main candidate loses (even though that can't happen, because "they" control the election), this leaves the question: Why did Ron Paul bother running at all? Why did Ron Paul take - nay, ALLOW his supporters to give tens of MILLIONS of dollars to him, if he knew he could not possibly win? What is he doing with all his campaign money now, I wonder? I'm sorry, but that's all money that his followers could have spent on more important things, like food, medicine, gasoline, or guns and ammunition to repel the reptilian shapeshifting kitten-eating rulers of the Earth when they try to take over the US even though they already completely control it.
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8th November 2008, 05:47 PM	#28
Tin Foil Timothy Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,089	There will be a one world government eventually. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply a natural political development. All the continental unions, the EU, African Union, Asian Union, North American Union ( when it arrives ), South American Union, etc will eventually merge into a World Union.
Tin Foil Timothy Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,089

8th November 2008, 05:48 PM	#29
Tin Foil Timothy Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,089	Originally Posted by moon1969 Colin Powell is a liar and clown but hardly a NWO guy. Biden is a loudmouth. Everybody who is calling Zbigniew Brzezinski a russian hater might want to look what their russian heroes did to Afghanistan during 1979-1989. 1 million dead afghans and 6 million displaced afghans. That is what Russia did to Afghanistan on 1979-1989. And they are still doing that to Chechnya with their puppet Kadyrov. Not that much different to what the USA/UK have done to Iraq from 2003-2008 then is it?
Tin Foil Timothy Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,089

8th November 2008, 11:17 PM	#30
leonAzul Illuminator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nowhere Land Posts: 3,734	Originally Posted by dudalb Up until now, Ron Paul has pretty much confined his conspiracy theories to the NAFTA nonsense. But in a interview in the wake of Obama's election, Paul seems to be totally buying in the "Vast Global Conspriacy" Theory. http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1474.html Wow.Just wow. I think now we now why Paul did not distance himself from the conspiracy kooks who filled his campaign: He Is One. Or rather, The None. vox populi vox dei est Democracy has spoken. :-/
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9th November 2008, 12:26 AM	#31
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 26,206	Originally Posted by Tin Foil Timothy There will be a one world government eventually. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply a natural political development. Marxism was largely predicated on the notion of historical inevitability. Didn't quite work out that way, but the lesson has been lost on many spectators. There are considerably forces pushing for political autonomy for various groups, even within currently politically unified states. One ignores such forces at their peril. Nothing about their demise is inevitable, let alone likely.
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9th November 2008, 12:29 AM	#32
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 26,206	Originally Posted by Tin Foil Timothy Not that much different to what the USA/UK have done to Iraq from 2003-2008 then is it? Such cluelessness. The number of Afghan refugees living outside the country decreased after the US invasion, because many people were able to return home after the Taliban were kicked out. That is considerably different. And while there has been a slow exodus of Iraqi sunnis, you will search in vain for refugee camps of the sort that the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan produced. Next time reality calls, try picking up the phone.
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13th November 2008, 11:10 AM	#33
thesyntaxera Muse Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 882	Originally Posted by WildCat You either do or do not. There is no try. Thank you Yoda.

13th November 2008, 04:22 PM	#34
luchog Neo-Post-Retro-Revivalist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Emerald City Posts: 7,958	Originally Posted by Checkmite I cannot decide what is more pathetic: the performance history of the United Nations, or the claim that the United Nations is supposed to be some all-powerful world government. That's just what they want you to think. In fact, they engineered those particular events, in order to expand their covert control over... crap, I just don't have enough drugs handy to take that any farther.
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15th November 2008, 09:53 PM	#35
BenBurch Gatekeeper of The Left Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Universe 35.2 ms ahead of this one. Posts: 32,195	On the OP: Sadly, two of my siblings believe anything he says.
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15th November 2008, 11:28 PM	#36
Travis Misanthrope of the Mountains Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tuolumne City, CA Posts: 17,954	Originally Posted by BenBurch On the OP: Sadly, two of my siblings believe anything he says. Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings?
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16th November 2008, 08:43 AM	#37
mrbaracuda Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 3,799	Originally Posted by Travis Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings? Ahahahah!

16th November 2008, 01:22 PM	#38
BenBurch Gatekeeper of The Left Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Universe 35.2 ms ahead of this one. Posts: 32,195	Originally Posted by Travis Are you sure they aren't "back up" siblings? OK, I'm dense. I didn't get the joke. [EDIT] OH! Just got it. Sheesh.
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