The scientific equivalent of Jerusalem Syndrome - Page 2

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Suezoled

and WHAT makes you think I care enough to know anything about you? What an ego... you're also not as cute as Pillory as or charming as Towlie.

jealousy is for Women. who do you think i have to impress?

EVE
G
O ..

a false notion.

Suezoled · 22nd January 2004, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Answer

jealousy is for Women. who do you think i have to impress?

EVE
G
O ..

a false notion.

yes, and you are quite the woman, aren't you Eve?

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Suezoled

yes, and you are quite the woman, aren't you Eve?

talking to yourself?

yes she is

Suezoled · 22nd January 2004, 12:57 PM

dang double post

Suezoled · 22nd January 2004, 12:59 PM

Hey, you're the one who mentioned jealousy, you're the one who just admitted you're talking to yourself.

You're BORING Answer. Less than a man...certainly less than a woman, too.. only yourself to listen to, in the end.

T'ai Chi · 22nd January 2004, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Answer

how many little pictures do i have to draw you. everything is symbolic. you have failed to understand because you comprehend only half of what i type. try to think with both minds, find the center. Buddha spoke of the middle-path; it is the union of MINDS.

read this once, it is how your reality is created:
....

So you do or don't have evidence? Let us know......

tamiO · 22nd January 2004, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Answer

talking to yourself?

yes she is

I had all sorts of theories on everything during my "stressful" time. The way you are wording your posts sounds a lot like some of the symptoms I suffered. I told people I was "in the sanity," get it? Insane...In-the sanity....

You suffer from delusions like that words have special secret meanings, it all makes sense and no one else senses the importance of what you have "discovered." Of course, it is not suffering. I felt elated and in total control when I was thinking in these ways. I had figured out things that were so simple and profound that I figured that's why people had just not figured these things out. It was double frustrating to have people not believe me.

You are not crazy, just mildly disturbed.

You are not stupid, in fact, your brain seems to be capable of very abstract thought processes. I think this sort of thing happens to very intelligent people.

I climbed out of my insanity by use of critical thinking. I tried to prove some of my theories. Some of them still bear interest to me, but are not leading me in the directions I thought they would. I am learning more and more about the power of the brain and it's capabilities that make some things appear magical.

I have a question... are you the Time Cube Guy?

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tamiO

I had all sorts of theories on everything during my "stressful" time. The way you are wording your posts sounds a lot like some of the symptoms I suffered. I told people I was "in the sanity," get it? Insane...In-the sanity....

You suffer from delusions like that words have special secret meanings, it all makes sense and no one else senses the importance of what you have "discovered." Of course, it is not suffering. I felt elated and in total control when I was thinking in these ways. I had figured out things that were so simple and profound that I figured that's why people had just not figured these things out. It was double frustrating to have people not believe me.

You are not crazy, just mildly disturbed. You are not stupid, in fact, your brain seems to be capable of very abstract thought processes. I think this sort of thing happens to very intelligent people.

I climbed out of my insanity by use of critical thinking. I tried to prove some of my theories. Some of them still bear interest to me, but are not leading me in the directions I thought they would. I am learning more and more about the power of the brain and it's capabilities that make some things appear magical.

I have a question... are you the Time Cube Guy?

hahahaha. "critical thinking" !have you bothered to "critically think" about Quantum-Mechanics and SuperStringTheory ? OBVIOUSLY NOT. that "THING" that was so simple and profound is exactly what is the TRUE NATURE OF ALL.

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Suezoled
Hey, you're the one who mentioned jealousy, you're the one who just admitted you're talking to yourself.

You're BORING Answer. Less than a man...certainly less than a woman, too.. only yourself to listen to, in the end.

you the invididual may not comprehend, however, SHE speaks through YOU. TIME-FLOWS-BACKWARDS. of course you don't understand, your God will decide for you. does James Randi not read his own message board? or is he afraid to reply?

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 01:42 PM

i have already told you i-am-him-and-not-him. why do you think we are so similar? ALL-IS-ONE.

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 01:44 PM

many are already aware of the "discoveries". you are surrounded by them all day long. it is YOU who have not realized and YOU who have choosen not to listen.

no one in particular · 22nd January 2004, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Answer

does James Randi not read his own message board? or is he afraid to reply?

You should know, after all, aren't you him/not-him?

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 01:48 PM

Quote:

I climbed out of my insanity by use of critical thinking. I tried to prove some of my theories. Some of them still bear interest to me, but are not leading me in the directions I thought they would. I am learning more and more about the power of the brain and it's capabilities that make some things appear magical.

keep learning. there is much you don't know; this has caused you to understimate the capacity of the brain's true power. you imply that it is not capable of interpreting quantum-totality. it is you who are IGNORANT. KEEP LEARNING.

i mean ignorant literally, not as an insult. you just lack the Knowledge. you may have had it once, you can grasp it once again. Your DOUBT is not the beginning, it is the middle, before it is QUANTUM-TOTALITY and after it is PHYSICAL-LINEARITY.

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by no one in particular
You should know, after all, aren't you him/not-him?

out of politeness i will refrain from revealing Truth .. he has yet to come, i have no choice but to make a negative assumption.

no one in particular · 22nd January 2004, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Answer

out of politeness i will refrain from revealing Truth ..

Oh, I see. Well, since I am also him/not-him, I will give you permission to tell the TRUTH.

Quote:

Originally posted by Answer

i have no choice but to make a negative assumption.

What use does one who sees the truth of ONE/NOT-ONENESS have for assumptions?

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by no one in particular
Oh, I see. Well, since I am also him/not-him, I will give you permission to tell the TRUTH.What use does one who sees the truth of ONE/NOT-ONENESS have for assumptions?

all assumptions are Truth. first instinct is always Truth. what you assume to be correct IS CORRECT. you need to break it down into two separate parts to understand. when you have acheived the requires opposites it is obvious one is Logical/Left/Linear and the other is Creative/Right/Non-Linear ..

PARA(implying more than one, thus non-linear) - NORMAL(implying average static linearity-logic)

such a word would be unknown to humanity if we weren't capable of non-linear thought/interpretation of quantum-totality. how did a concept of what you claim does not exist could come about?

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 02:16 PM

how else do YOU-THINK a concept that is OPPOSITE of what YOU claim does not EXIST could come about if you are not capable of Non-Linear-Quantum-Thought?

no one in particular · 22nd January 2004, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Answer

all assumptions are Truth. first instinct is always Truth.

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Originally posted by Answer

how did a concept of what you claim does not exist could come about?

Since you were quoting me/not-me I presume that you were speaking to me/not-me directly. If so, please show me/not-me were I/not-I made a claim that some thing does not exist.

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by no one in particular
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Since you were quoting me/not-me I presume that you were speaking to me/not-me directly. If so, please show me/not-me were I/not-I made a claim that some thing does not exist.

"I", the concept of "I" is responsible for Existence as you perceive it. Remove the concept from your Mind and you are unable to notice Difference.

You have already made the claim:

"..I made a claim that some thing does not exist." .. recall that ALL-IS-ONE, and this has been you talking to yourself all along. The Universe is experiencing Itself. You are a single CPU in a vast machine, all interconnected via a ring-like-net structure. Of course, the rings can be reduced to just two that are really ONE. 8 laid on it's side, in fact.

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Answer

"I", the concept of "I" is responsible for Existence as you perceive it. Remove the concept from your Mind and you are unable to notice Difference.

You have already made the claim:

"..I made a claim that some thing does not exist." .. recall that ALL-IS-ONE, and this has been you talking to yourself all along. The Universe is experiencing Itself. You are a single CPU in a vast machine, all interconnected via a ring-like-net structure. Of course, the rings can be reduced to just two that are really ONE. 8 laid on it's side, in fact.

what do you get when you reduce something until it can no longer be reduced; untangle infinity, so to speak? ZERO. 1=0, BINARY IS FALSE.

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 02:40 PM

the onus is on YOU to prove Science wrong. do so and you prove that Science is false and thus your world tumbles down around your ears. can you PROOF a NEGATIVE? absolutely!

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 02:44 PM

so, since it is YOUR-TURN to prove that Science is false, it is up to YOU to prove that i have not presented irrefutable proof; that i have not demonstrated my paranormal ability in these very threads.

i have seen the circular nature of reality. it will always come back to you attempting to prove me wrong; as impossible as you imagined it to be to prove that ParaNormal exists

i have all the Time in the World. how many posts will it take? any bets? 1000, 10000, 1000000? we shall see..

epepke · 22nd January 2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beleth
Do a Google or AskJeeves search on "Jerusalem Syndrome" and you will find Web pages referring to three topics:

1) a punk rock band from Haifa
2) An award-winning movie from 2002
3) A psychological condition

I want to talk about the latter.

Sorry, pet peeve. You want to talk about the last. "Latter" is only valid when there are two items in the list.

Quote:

People affected by Jerusalem Syndrome are typically people who are visiting Jerusalem and, once they are there, believe that they are actually a person from the Bible. Most believe that they are Jesus or Mary, but other figures are represented too.

By being directly exposed to arguably the holiest city in the world, these people undergo a profound psychotic episode.

My hypothesis is that exposure to science, particularly quantum mechanics, can provoke a similar psychotic episode.

Well, it would be more like the Jerusalem Syndrome if they started chain-smoking, talking in a Brooklyn accent, playing the Bongos and picking up lots of women.

But seriously, there is a big schism between the quantum view and the classical view, and it isn't beyond belief that something schizoaffective should come out of it.

The trouble is, many times I think this is the result of not enough psychosis rather than too much. There's this desperate scramble to try to relate QM to Buddhism or Taoism or some arcane aspect of philosophy, whereas the truth is that the quantum behavior is like nothing else you have ever heard of.

Once you can groove with that, then you become completely psychotic. But it's a good kind of psychosis, and I highly recommend it.

Answer · 22nd January 2004, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by epepke

Sorry, pet peeve. You want to talk about the last. "Latter" is only valid when there are two items in the list.

Well, it would be more like the Jerusalem Syndrome if they started chain-smoking, talking in a Brooklyn accent, playing the Bongos and picking up lots of women.

But seriously, there is a big schism between the quantum view and the classical view, and it isn't beyond belief that something schizoaffective should come out of it.

The trouble is, many times I think this is the result of not enough psychosis rather than too much. There's this desperate scramble to try to relate QM to Buddhism or Taoism or some arcane aspect of philosophy, whereas the truth is that the quantum behavior is like nothing else you have ever heard of.

Once you can groove with that, then you become completely psychotic. But it's a good kind of psychosis, and I highly recommend it.

well, you are half-way there.. a centered-being, without a doubt.

quantum-mechanics, Buddhism and Taoism all explain the very same thing. however, quantum-mechanics approaches it from a purely Scientific and therefore "logical" perspective. obviously, at a quantum-level, logic as the average person sees it breaks down. i call such logic False-Logic.. StringTheory and QuantumMechanics allow circular reasoning to co-exist with binary reasoning. all such circular reasoning can be described as True-Logic. this unity of Logic and Creativity(True-and-False) is the cause of the "Psychosis" you believe that i am afflicted with. Skeptics would not bother to take mysticism seriously, even though it is quite capable of explaining how Reality truly functions.. the problem is the vague nature of metaphor.. so, science comes along and proves the mystics right. Logic-Unites-With-Creativity. Energy-Flows-Into-Itself. All-Is-One.

22nd January 2004, 12:39 PM	#41
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: Originally posted by Suezoled and WHAT makes you think I care enough to know anything about you? What an ego... you're also not as cute as Pillory as or charming as Towlie. jealousy is for Women. who do you think i have to impress? EVE G O .. a false notion.
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22nd January 2004, 12:43 PM	#42
Suezoled Mentally Interesting Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,588	Quote: Originally posted by Answer jealousy is for Women. who do you think i have to impress? EVE G O .. a false notion. yes, and you are quite the woman, aren't you Eve?
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22nd January 2004, 12:53 PM	#43
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: Originally posted by Suezoled yes, and you are quite the woman, aren't you Eve? talking to yourself? yes she is
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22nd January 2004, 12:57 PM	#44
Suezoled Mentally Interesting Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,588	dang double post
	__________________ "We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men." -priest guy from Boondock Saints "And we'll no longer memorize or rhyme/Too far along in our crime/ Stepping over what now towers to the sky/ With no connection" -Shins

22nd January 2004, 12:59 PM	#45
Suezoled Mentally Interesting Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,588	Hey, you're the one who mentioned jealousy, you're the one who just admitted you're talking to yourself. You're BORING Answer. Less than a man...certainly less than a woman, too.. only yourself to listen to, in the end.
	__________________ "We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men." -priest guy from Boondock Saints "And we'll no longer memorize or rhyme/Too far along in our crime/ Stepping over what now towers to the sky/ With no connection" -Shins

22nd January 2004, 01:08 PM	#46
T'ai Chi Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11,235	Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The scientific equivalent of Jerusalem Syndrome Quote: Originally posted by Answer how many little pictures do i have to draw you. everything is symbolic. you have failed to understand because you comprehend only half of what i type. try to think with both minds, find the center. Buddha spoke of the middle-path; it is the union of MINDS. read this once, it is how your reality is created: .... So you do or don't have evidence? Let us know......
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22nd January 2004, 01:18 PM	#47
tamiO Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,287	Quote: Originally posted by Answer talking to yourself? yes she is I had all sorts of theories on everything during my "stressful" time. The way you are wording your posts sounds a lot like some of the symptoms I suffered. I told people I was "in the sanity," get it? Insane...In-the sanity.... You suffer from delusions like that words have special secret meanings, it all makes sense and no one else senses the importance of what you have "discovered." Of course, it is not suffering. I felt elated and in total control when I was thinking in these ways. I had figured out things that were so simple and profound that I figured that's why people had just not figured these things out. It was double frustrating to have people not believe me. You are not crazy, just mildly disturbed. You are not stupid, in fact, your brain seems to be capable of very abstract thought processes. I think this sort of thing happens to very intelligent people. I climbed out of my insanity by use of critical thinking. I tried to prove some of my theories. Some of them still bear interest to me, but are not leading me in the directions I thought they would. I am learning more and more about the power of the brain and it's capabilities that make some things appear magical. I have a question... are you the Time Cube Guy?
tamiO Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,287

22nd January 2004, 01:38 PM	#48
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: Originally posted by tamiO I had all sorts of theories on everything during my "stressful" time. The way you are wording your posts sounds a lot like some of the symptoms I suffered. I told people I was "in the sanity," get it? Insane...In-the sanity.... You suffer from delusions like that words have special secret meanings, it all makes sense and no one else senses the importance of what you have "discovered." Of course, it is not suffering. I felt elated and in total control when I was thinking in these ways. I had figured out things that were so simple and profound that I figured that's why people had just not figured these things out. It was double frustrating to have people not believe me. You are not crazy, just mildly disturbed. You are not stupid, in fact, your brain seems to be capable of very abstract thought processes. I think this sort of thing happens to very intelligent people. I climbed out of my insanity by use of critical thinking. I tried to prove some of my theories. Some of them still bear interest to me, but are not leading me in the directions I thought they would. I am learning more and more about the power of the brain and it's capabilities that make some things appear magical. I have a question... are you the Time Cube Guy? hahahaha. "critical thinking" !have you bothered to "critically think" about Quantum-Mechanics and SuperStringTheory ? OBVIOUSLY NOT. that "THING" that was so simple and profound is exactly what is the TRUE NATURE OF ALL.
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448

22nd January 2004, 01:41 PM	#49
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: Originally posted by Suezoled Hey, you're the one who mentioned jealousy, you're the one who just admitted you're talking to yourself. You're BORING Answer. Less than a man...certainly less than a woman, too.. only yourself to listen to, in the end. you the invididual may not comprehend, however, SHE speaks through YOU. TIME-FLOWS-BACKWARDS. of course you don't understand, your God will decide for you. does James Randi not read his own message board? or is he afraid to reply?
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448

22nd January 2004, 01:42 PM	#50
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	i have already told you i-am-him-and-not-him. why do you think we are so similar? ALL-IS-ONE.
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448

22nd January 2004, 01:44 PM	#51
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	many are already aware of the "discoveries". you are surrounded by them all day long. it is YOU who have not realized and YOU who have choosen not to listen.
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448

22nd January 2004, 01:46 PM	#52
no one in particular muse Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,004	Quote: Originally posted by Answer does James Randi not read his own message board? or is he afraid to reply? You should know, after all, aren't you him/not-him?
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22nd January 2004, 01:48 PM	#53
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: I climbed out of my insanity by use of critical thinking. I tried to prove some of my theories. Some of them still bear interest to me, but are not leading me in the directions I thought they would. I am learning more and more about the power of the brain and it's capabilities that make some things appear magical. keep learning. there is much you don't know; this has caused you to understimate the capacity of the brain's true power. you imply that it is not capable of interpreting quantum-totality. it is you who are IGNORANT. KEEP LEARNING. i mean ignorant literally, not as an insult. you just lack the Knowledge. you may have had it once, you can grasp it once again. Your DOUBT is not the beginning, it is the middle, before it is QUANTUM-TOTALITY and after it is PHYSICAL-LINEARITY.
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448

22nd January 2004, 01:50 PM	#54
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: Originally posted by no one in particular You should know, after all, aren't you him/not-him? out of politeness i will refrain from revealing Truth .. he has yet to come, i have no choice but to make a negative assumption.
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22nd January 2004, 01:55 PM	#55
no one in particular muse Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,004	Quote: Originally posted by Answer out of politeness i will refrain from revealing Truth .. Oh, I see. Well, since I am also him/not-him, I will give you permission to tell the TRUTH. Quote: Originally posted by Answer i have no choice but to make a negative assumption. What use does one who sees the truth of ONE/NOT-ONENESS have for assumptions?
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22nd January 2004, 02:14 PM	#56
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: Originally posted by no one in particular Oh, I see. Well, since I am also him/not-him, I will give you permission to tell the TRUTH.What use does one who sees the truth of ONE/NOT-ONENESS have for assumptions? all assumptions are Truth. first instinct is always Truth. what you assume to be correct IS CORRECT. you need to break it down into two separate parts to understand. when you have acheived the requires opposites it is obvious one is Logical/Left/Linear and the other is Creative/Right/Non-Linear .. PARA(implying more than one, thus non-linear) - NORMAL(implying average static linearity-logic) such a word would be unknown to humanity if we weren't capable of non-linear thought/interpretation of quantum-totality. how did a concept of what you claim does not exist could come about?
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448

22nd January 2004, 02:16 PM	#57
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	how else do YOU-THINK a concept that is OPPOSITE of what YOU claim does not EXIST could come about if you are not capable of Non-Linear-Quantum-Thought?
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448

22nd January 2004, 02:22 PM	#58
no one in particular muse Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,004	Quote: Originally posted by Answer all assumptions are Truth. first instinct is always Truth. *Paging Towlie, paging Towlie, we have a clean-up in the “Science, Mathematics, Medicine, and Technology” section* Quote: Originally posted by Answer how did a concept of what you claim does not exist could come about? Since you were quoting me/not-me I presume that you were speaking to me/not-me directly. If so, please show me/not-me were I/not-I made a claim that some thing does not exist.
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22nd January 2004, 02:29 PM	#59
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: Originally posted by no one in particular *Paging Towlie, paging Towlie, we have a clean-up in the “Science, Mathematics, Medicine, and Technology” section* Since you were quoting me/not-me I presume that you were speaking to me/not-me directly. If so, please show me/not-me were I/not-I made a claim that some thing does not exist. "I", the concept of "I" is responsible for Existence as you perceive it. Remove the concept from your Mind and you are unable to notice Difference. You have already made the claim: "..I made a claim that some thing does not exist." .. recall that ALL-IS-ONE, and this has been you talking to yourself all along. The Universe is experiencing Itself. You are a single CPU in a vast machine, all interconnected via a ring-like-net structure. Of course, the rings can be reduced to just two that are really ONE. 8 laid on it's side, in fact.
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22nd January 2004, 02:32 PM	#60
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Quote: Originally posted by Answer "I", the concept of "I" is responsible for Existence as you perceive it. Remove the concept from your Mind and you are unable to notice Difference. You have already made the claim: "..I made a claim that some thing does not exist." .. recall that ALL-IS-ONE, and this has been you talking to yourself all along. The Universe is experiencing Itself. You are a single CPU in a vast machine, all interconnected via a ring-like-net structure. Of course, the rings can be reduced to just two that are really ONE. 8 laid on it's side, in fact. what do you get when you reduce something until it can no longer be reduced; untangle infinity, so to speak? ZERO. 1=0, BINARY IS FALSE.
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448

22nd January 2004, 02:40 PM	#61
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	the onus is on YOU to prove Science wrong. do so and you prove that Science is false and thus your world tumbles down around your ears. can you PROOF a NEGATIVE? absolutely!
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22nd January 2004, 02:44 PM	#62
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	so, since it is YOUR-TURN to prove that Science is false, it is up to YOU to prove that i have not presented irrefutable proof; that i have not demonstrated my paranormal ability in these very threads. i have seen the circular nature of reality. it will always come back to you attempting to prove me wrong; as impossible as you imagined it to be to prove that ParaNormal exists i have all the Time in the World. how many posts will it take? any bets? 1000, 10000, 1000000? we shall see..
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22nd January 2004, 03:00 PM	#63
epepke Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,950	Re: The scientific equivalent of Jerusalem Syndrome Quote: Originally posted by Beleth Do a Google or AskJeeves search on "Jerusalem Syndrome" and you will find Web pages referring to three topics: 1) a punk rock band from Haifa 2) An award-winning movie from 2002 3) A psychological condition I want to talk about the latter. Sorry, pet peeve. You want to talk about the last. "Latter" is only valid when there are two items in the list. Quote: People affected by Jerusalem Syndrome are typically people who are visiting Jerusalem and, once they are there, believe that they are actually a person from the Bible. Most believe that they are Jesus or Mary, but other figures are represented too. By being directly exposed to arguably the holiest city in the world, these people undergo a profound psychotic episode. My hypothesis is that exposure to science, particularly quantum mechanics, can provoke a similar psychotic episode. Well, it would be more like the Jerusalem Syndrome if they started chain-smoking, talking in a Brooklyn accent, playing the Bongos and picking up lots of women. But seriously, there is a big schism between the quantum view and the classical view, and it isn't beyond belief that something schizoaffective should come out of it. The trouble is, many times I think this is the result of not enough psychosis rather than too much. There's this desperate scramble to try to relate QM to Buddhism or Taoism or some arcane aspect of philosophy, whereas the truth is that the quantum behavior is like nothing else you have ever heard of. Once you can groove with that, then you become completely psychotic. But it's a good kind of psychosis, and I highly recommend it.
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22nd January 2004, 03:11 PM	#64
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448	Re: Re: The scientific equivalent of Jerusalem Syndrome Quote: Originally posted by epepke Sorry, pet peeve. You want to talk about the last. "Latter" is only valid when there are two items in the list. Well, it would be more like the Jerusalem Syndrome if they started chain-smoking, talking in a Brooklyn accent, playing the Bongos and picking up lots of women. But seriously, there is a big schism between the quantum view and the classical view, and it isn't beyond belief that something schizoaffective should come out of it. The trouble is, many times I think this is the result of not enough psychosis rather than too much. There's this desperate scramble to try to relate QM to Buddhism or Taoism or some arcane aspect of philosophy, whereas the truth is that the quantum behavior is like nothing else you have ever heard of. Once you can groove with that, then you become completely psychotic. But it's a good kind of psychosis, and I highly recommend it. well, you are half-way there.. a centered-being, without a doubt. quantum-mechanics, Buddhism and Taoism all explain the very same thing. however, quantum-mechanics approaches it from a purely Scientific and therefore "logical" perspective. obviously, at a quantum-level, logic as the average person sees it breaks down. i call such logic False-Logic.. StringTheory and QuantumMechanics allow circular reasoning to co-exist with binary reasoning. all such circular reasoning can be described as True-Logic. this unity of Logic and Creativity(True-and-False) is the cause of the "Psychosis" you believe that i am afflicted with. Skeptics would not bother to take mysticism seriously, even though it is quite capable of explaining how Reality truly functions.. the problem is the vague nature of metaphor.. so, science comes along and proves the mystics right. Logic-Unites-With-Creativity. Energy-Flows-Into-Itself. All-Is-One.
Answer Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 448