Hoovervilles=1933. Obamavilles=2009! - Page 6

jj · 29th April 2009, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by themusicteacher

Originally Posted by mhaze

Wrong. Go read the posts and try again. You don't have my opinions correct at all - they have been clearly stated - and are only following the tactic of Alinsky Rule 12.

Good work ignoring what I said about the title of this thread that you created. You mean to say that your equation of Obama to Hoover, despite the fact of it in the title, is in no way what you're trying to say? I'm not going to go back and read 5 pages of posts about this nonsense. You're a disingenuous flamethrower and you know it so I will cease to feed the troll.

Well, there certainly is no doubt at all that he was trying to tar Obama with little Bush's myriads of destructive mistakes.

I don't see that any other interpretation than deliberate, intentional lying in support of an ultra-right-wing totalitarian set of hyper-religious candidates who want to turn us into the Christian version of Iran.

mhaze · 29th April 2009, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by mhaze
Your point of view about the relation of Obamavilles to secession of a state is, well, certainly, .. ... umm, unique.

Originally Posted by jj

That's what you want us to think!

Oh. Are the secession meetings held in Obamavilles? If not, where?

charles brough · 30th April 2009, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

Bull flops. The looney right has been trying to manipulate the language to shift the blame away from the Shrub since before Obama was even elected. They control the language that their idiot audience uses. "Islamofascists" is an term coined by the fat deaf eunuch or Newt or some comparably worthless spot of detritus. The right does not get to frame the language unchallenged any more. Live with the correction.

EXACTLY! Since they own the media, they are still doing it. Their presently most effective strategy is to refer to all of Obama's efforts to stop the economic plunge---efforts started by the Bush-bunch---have been deliberately labeled "infusions," "bailouts," "Pumping in funds" and "propping up" companies and banks. Every effort is made to hide the fact that most of this is loans which will be paid back. The result is that the public now has the idea that the "spending" is going to wreck the future and that "our children and grandchildren will suffer for our profligate ways." It has given the profligate Republicans (Reagan and Bush both caused inflations) who now have a unifying cry: "we are for fiscal responsibility!"

mhaze · 30th April 2009, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by charles brough

EXACTLY! Since they own the media, they are still doing it. Their presently most effective strategy is to refer to all of Obama's efforts to stop the economic plunge---efforts started by the Bush-bunch---have been deliberately labeled "infusions," "bailouts," "Pumping in funds" and "propping up" companies and banks. Every effort is made to hide the fact that most of this is loans which will be paid back. The result is that the public now has the idea that the "spending" is going to wreck the future and that "our children and grandchildren will suffer for our profligate ways." It has given the profligate Republicans (Reagan and Bush both caused inflations) who now have a unifying cry: "we are for fiscal responsibility!"

So propaganda trumps actual numerical numbers?

the public now has the idea that the "spending" is going to wreck the future and that "our children and grandchildren will suffer for our profligate
ways."

Isn't - this true (except for the "our", you and yours can take full credit ).

Originally Posted by jj

..."Obamavilles" is attempting....deliberate, quite intentional, and constitutes the last resort of a bunch of southern reconstructist republican politicians...Texas trying to seceed? That's their open, obvious attempt to start a civil war. .....You lost the election, now you want to try out a new civil war..

Let's hear more about this dangerous secession. Are the conspirators meeting in the Obamavilles?

paximperium · 30th April 2009, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by mhaze

So propaganda trumps actual numerical numbers?

the public now has the idea that the "spending" is going to wreck the future and that "our children and grandchildren will suffer for our profligate
ways."

Isn't - this true (except for the "our", you and yours can take full credit ).

Let's hear more about this dangerous secession. Are the conspirators meeting in the Obamavilles?

Reality trumps dogmatic delusion.

mhaze · 1st May 2009, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by jj

...the last resort of a bunch of southern reconstructist republican politicians who failed to sell their bill of dog to the country.

Why else is Texas trying to seceed? That's their open, obvious attempt to start a civil war.

The intent, the behavior, all painfully obvious, from the calls for Obama to FAIL, to (*&( with the country in the process, to the attempted secession of Texas. You lost the election, now you want to try out a new civil war. You must WIN AT ALL COSTS, never mind what it does to the country, you must WIN AT ALL COSTS.

My apologies, I have not checked the news lately. Why didn't you simply state that the secession had already occurred?

Looks like no Obamavilles in the soveriegn nation of Texas.

29th April 2009, 01:38 PM	#201
jj grumpy old skeptic Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Deep in the rain Posts: 18,465	Originally Posted by themusicteacher Originally Posted by mhaze Wrong. Go read the posts and try again. You don't have my opinions correct at all - they have been clearly stated - and are only following the tactic of Alinsky Rule 12. Good work ignoring what I said about the title of this thread that you created. You mean to say that your equation of Obama to Hoover, despite the fact of it in the title, is in no way what you're trying to say? I'm not going to go back and read 5 pages of posts about this nonsense. You're a disingenuous flamethrower and you know it so I will cease to feed the troll. Well, there certainly is no doubt at all that he was trying to tar Obama with little Bush's myriads of destructive mistakes. I don't see that any other interpretation than deliberate, intentional lying in support of an ultra-right-wing totalitarian set of hyper-religious candidates who want to turn us into the Christian version of Iran.
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29th April 2009, 07:26 PM	#202
mhaze Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woo*(+-1.10)^20=AGWwoo Posts: 15,384	Originally Posted by mhaze Your point of view about the relation of Obamavilles to secession of a state is, well, certainly, .. ... umm, unique. Originally Posted by jj That's what you want us to think! Oh. Are the secession meetings held in Obamavilles? If not, where?
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30th April 2009, 04:44 AM	#203
charles brough Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CALIFORNIA USA Posts: 555	Originally Posted by leftysergeant Bull flops. The looney right has been trying to manipulate the language to shift the blame away from the Shrub since before Obama was even elected. They control the language that their idiot audience uses. "Islamofascists" is an term coined by the fat deaf eunuch or Newt or some comparably worthless spot of detritus. The right does not get to frame the language unchallenged any more. Live with the correction. EXACTLY! Since they own the media, they are still doing it. Their presently most effective strategy is to refer to all of Obama's efforts to stop the economic plunge---efforts started by the Bush-bunch---have been deliberately labeled "infusions," "bailouts," "Pumping in funds" and "propping up" companies and banks. Every effort is made to hide the fact that most of this is loans which will be paid back. The result is that the public now has the idea that the "spending" is going to wreck the future and that "our children and grandchildren will suffer for our profligate ways." It has given the profligate Republicans (Reagan and Bush both caused inflations) who now have a unifying cry: "we are for fiscal responsibility!"
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30th April 2009, 08:12 AM	#204
mhaze Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woo*(+-1.10)^20=AGWwoo Posts: 15,384	Originally Posted by charles brough EXACTLY! Since they own the media, they are still doing it. Their presently most effective strategy is to refer to all of Obama's efforts to stop the economic plunge---efforts started by the Bush-bunch---have been deliberately labeled "infusions," "bailouts," "Pumping in funds" and "propping up" companies and banks. Every effort is made to hide the fact that most of this is loans which will be paid back. The result is that the public now has the idea that the "spending" is going to wreck the future and that "our children and grandchildren will suffer for our profligate ways." It has given the profligate Republicans (Reagan and Bush both caused inflations) who now have a unifying cry: "we are for fiscal responsibility!" So propaganda trumps actual numerical numbers? the public now has the idea that the "spending" is going to wreck the future and that "our children and grandchildren will suffer for our profligate ways." Isn't - this true (except for the "our", you and yours can take full credit ). Originally Posted by jj ..."Obamavilles" is attempting....deliberate, quite intentional, and constitutes the last resort of a bunch of southern reconstructist republican politicians...Texas trying to seceed? That's their open, obvious attempt to start a civil war. .....You lost the election, now you want to try out a new civil war.. Let's hear more about this dangerous secession. Are the conspirators meeting in the Obamavilles?
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30th April 2009, 08:24 AM	#205
paximperium Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2008 Location: Silicon Valley-Stuck between Google and Apple Posts: 10,727	Originally Posted by mhaze So propaganda trumps actual numerical numbers? the public now has the idea that the "spending" is going to wreck the future and that "our children and grandchildren will suffer for our profligate ways." Isn't - this true (except for the "our", you and yours can take full credit ). Let's hear more about this dangerous secession. Are the conspirators meeting in the Obamavilles? Reality trumps dogmatic delusion.
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1st May 2009, 05:45 AM	#206
mhaze Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woo*(+-1.10)^20=AGWwoo Posts: 15,384	Originally Posted by jj ...the last resort of a bunch of southern reconstructist republican politicians who failed to sell their bill of dog to the country. Why else is Texas trying to seceed? That's their open, obvious attempt to start a civil war. The intent, the behavior, all painfully obvious, from the calls for Obama to FAIL, to (*&( with the country in the process, to the attempted secession of Texas. You lost the election, now you want to try out a new civil war. You must WIN AT ALL COSTS, never mind what it does to the country, you must WIN AT ALL COSTS. My apologies, I have not checked the news lately. Why didn't you simply state that the secession had already occurred? Looks like no Obamavilles in the soveriegn nation of Texas.
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