Yeah I went and saw the Jesus movie - Page 2

the_ignored · 4th March 2004, 12:38 AM

The husband of one of the RR people fell asleep during the film!

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I have also been struggling with my husbands lack of commitment to Him also. He is a good person and tries to do the right thing but he is unwilling to totally be sold out for Him. When asked he says that he is saved but, his fruits say otherwise LOUDLY. i mentioned in another post that he actually FELL ASLEEP during the movie .

Temporal Renegade · 5th March 2004, 02:53 PM

A friend of mine sent out a mass e-mail to everyone in his address book, saying how his faith was reaffirmed from watching the film.

I haven't the heart to tell him my abject thoughts on the Jesus thing as a whole--I just told him I was glad for him.

Yeah, I wussed out. So?

Atlas · 5th March 2004, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Temporal Renegade
A friend of mine sent out a mass e-mail to everyone in his address book, saying how his faith was reaffirmed from watching the film.

I haven't the heart to tell him my abject thoughts on the Jesus thing as a whole--I just told him I was glad for him.

Yeah, I wussed out. So?

My sister wrote me that she saw it, cried through the whole thing, had dreams and that I should really see it.

I took your route. I told her though that I'd never see it in a theater. When it comes out on video or DVD I'll probably see it.

It costs nothing to do what you did. Why pick a fight or deflate someone who is riding high and otherwise harmless. I'm with you, let them have their moment. A time may come when he will be open to a countervailing opinion - that will be the time to engage him.

Temporal Renegade · 5th March 2004, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by Atlas
My sister wrote me that she saw it, cried through the whole thing, had dreams and that I should really see it.

I took your route. I told her though that I'd never see it in a theater. When it comes out on video or DVD I'll probably see it.

It costs nothing to do what you did. Why pick a fight or deflate someone who is riding high and otherwise harmless. I'm with you, let them have their moment. A time may come when he will be open to a countervailing opinion - that will be the time to engage him.

The nice thing is, I've known him for over twenty years, so we know where we stand with each other on a lot of things. But, you're right--no sense starting something that's going to be full of regrets later.

the_ignored · 5th March 2004, 04:16 PM

Hmmm, not as profound an effect as it had on these people

Yeah, the xian attitude is the exact opposite; get them all emotional and then make a decision...

whim · 5th March 2004, 04:49 PM

So gratuitous *Christian* violence is OK, right? Just want to make sure I've got the rules down...

Atlas · 5th March 2004, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by the_ignored
Yeah, the xian attitude is the exact opposite; get them all emotional and then make a decision...

More and more I'm convinced that God is nothing but a feeling. As long as God is an intellectual experience it's fairly abstract and reason can work on the concept.

But once we have the feeling, the touch of God, well - after that it's undeniable. What can you argue? That, no you didn't feel that?

Because it is in the realm of feeling and not an intellectual experience at all - believers are at the mercy of those in authority who say the know more about God - even to the point of convincing a believer to strap on a bomb belt and blow themselves sky high. Hey, there's a big reward and besides, God wants you to do it.

Temporal Renegade · 5th March 2004, 05:15 PM

Someone may have mentioned this already, so forgive me for repeating:

Why are the Fundies saying that it's OK to take your kids to this R-rated flick, but they always seem to get up in arms when these same kids want to see a Friday The 13th flick? Just because it's Jesus? Sorry, but I don't see the difference!

R-rated is R-rated, regardless of the subject matter!

Temporal Renegade · 5th March 2004, 05:19 PM

Globert · 5th March 2004, 07:59 PM

I really expected more gore, the antagonist was a departure, and some times I get tired of having to explain to my Xian wife the finer points of her delusion.

I wanted to hack into the subtitles and have JC say/think

" Me it's going to be a long day!"

or

"that's gonna leave a mark, luke and john!"

Globe

Edit to add There was only 1 fish sticker in the parking lot, I circled twice to make sure.(3:00pm Show wed.)

the_ignored · 5th March 2004, 10:03 PM

There's no context whatsoever for the pictures on this page, so your guess is as good as mine...

I can only think it has something to do with the theme of "threadkillers"... :confused

Abdul Alhazred · 5th March 2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Temporal Renegade
Someone may have mentioned this already, so forgive me for repeating:

Why are the Fundies saying that it's OK to take your kids to this R-rated flick, but they always seem to get up in arms when these same kids want to see a Friday The 13th flick? Just because it's Jesus? Sorry, but I don't see the difference!

R-rated is R-rated, regardless of the subject matter!

R-rated means accompanied by an adult is legal. The many children, and that includes small children down to infants, in the theater seriously bothers me.

Reading about it in the New Testament is not the sane thing as actually seeing it
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rachaella · 6th March 2004, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Temporal Renegade
Someone may have mentioned this already, so forgive me for repeating:

Why are the Fundies saying that it's OK to take your kids to this R-rated flick, but they always seem to get up in arms when these same kids want to see a Friday The 13th flick? Just because it's Jesus? Sorry, but I don't see the difference!

R-rated is R-rated, regardless of the subject matter!

I would agree that its hypocritical but disagree that R-Rated is R-Rated regardless of subject matter and say that incredible amounts of violence are incredible amounts of violence, and the subject matter is of little importance.

hammegk · 6th March 2004, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred

Reading about it in the New Testament is not the sane thing ....

Tell us what you really think .....

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as actually seeing it .

Silicon · 9th March 2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by rachaella

I would agree that its hypocritical but disagree that R-Rated is R-Rated regardless of subject matter and say that incredible amounts of violence are incredible amounts of violence, and the subject matter is of little importance.

There's R-rated and there's R-rated. I've seen R-rated films that were less violent than PG-13 movies.

It has to do with the way the violence is shown, as well as the reaction to violence.

I find rape/torture to be the most unwatchable type of violence for me (I have been known to walk out of Tarantino movies), but I have no problem at all watching a slasher movie that treats the blood and gore as humorous of shown as part of a monster movie type of scare. Long, realistic suffering, protrayed convincingly by good actors sends me running for the door, blood or no blood.

I could watch Freddy Kruger movies for hours, but I refuse to sit through Saving Private Ryan ever, ever again.

UserGoogol · 9th March 2004, 06:33 PM

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4th March 2004, 12:38 AM	#41
the_ignored Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 254	You'll maybe get a kick out of this... The husband of one of the RR people fell asleep during the film! Quote: I have also been struggling with my husbands lack of commitment to Him also. He is a good person and tries to do the right thing but he is unwilling to totally be sold out for Him. When asked he says that he is saved but, his fruits say otherwise LOUDLY. i mentioned in another post that he actually FELL ASLEEP during the movie .
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5th March 2004, 02:53 PM	#42
Temporal Renegade Last of the Time Lords Join Date: May 2003 Location: University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople Posts: 1,893	A friend of mine sent out a mass e-mail to everyone in his address book, saying how his faith was reaffirmed from watching the film. I haven't the heart to tell him my abject thoughts on the Jesus thing as a whole--I just told him I was glad for him. Yeah, I wussed out. So?
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5th March 2004, 03:07 PM	#43
Atlas Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,229	Quote: Originally posted by Temporal Renegade A friend of mine sent out a mass e-mail to everyone in his address book, saying how his faith was reaffirmed from watching the film. I haven't the heart to tell him my abject thoughts on the Jesus thing as a whole--I just told him I was glad for him. Yeah, I wussed out. So? My sister wrote me that she saw it, cried through the whole thing, had dreams and that I should really see it. I took your route. I told her though that I'd never see it in a theater. When it comes out on video or DVD I'll probably see it. It costs nothing to do what you did. Why pick a fight or deflate someone who is riding high and otherwise harmless. I'm with you, let them have their moment. A time may come when he will be open to a countervailing opinion - that will be the time to engage him.
Atlas Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,229	__________________ This, above all: to thine own self be true. (Polonius to Laertes) Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available. - (Benford's law of controversy)

5th March 2004, 03:13 PM	#44
Temporal Renegade Last of the Time Lords Join Date: May 2003 Location: University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople Posts: 1,893	Quote: Originally posted by Atlas My sister wrote me that she saw it, cried through the whole thing, had dreams and that I should really see it. I took your route. I told her though that I'd never see it in a theater. When it comes out on video or DVD I'll probably see it. It costs nothing to do what you did. Why pick a fight or deflate someone who is riding high and otherwise harmless. I'm with you, let them have their moment. A time may come when he will be open to a countervailing opinion - that will be the time to engage him. The nice thing is, I've known him for over twenty years, so we know where we stand with each other on a lot of things. But, you're right--no sense starting something that's going to be full of regrets later.
	__________________ "Attention please..... a child has been lost in the Tunnel of Goats......" .......FATHER TED

5th March 2004, 04:16 PM	#45
the_ignored Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 254	Hmmm, not as profound an effect as it had on these people Yeah, the xian attitude is the exact opposite; get them all emotional and then make a decision...
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5th March 2004, 04:49 PM	#46
whim New Blood Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 16	So gratuitous Christian violence is OK, right? Just want to make sure I've got the rules down...
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5th March 2004, 04:54 PM	#47
Atlas Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,229	Quote: Originally posted by the_ignored Yeah, the xian attitude is the exact opposite; get them all emotional and then make a decision... More and more I'm convinced that God is nothing but a feeling. As long as God is an intellectual experience it's fairly abstract and reason can work on the concept. But once we have the feeling, the touch of God, well - after that it's undeniable. What can you argue? That, no you didn't feel that? Because it is in the realm of feeling and not an intellectual experience at all - believers are at the mercy of those in authority who say the know more about God - even to the point of convincing a believer to strap on a bomb belt and blow themselves sky high. Hey, there's a big reward and besides, God wants you to do it.
Atlas Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,229	__________________ This, above all: to thine own self be true. (Polonius to Laertes) Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available. - (Benford's law of controversy)

5th March 2004, 05:15 PM	#48
Temporal Renegade Last of the Time Lords Join Date: May 2003 Location: University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople Posts: 1,893	Someone may have mentioned this already, so forgive me for repeating: Why are the Fundies saying that it's OK to take your kids to this R-rated flick, but they always seem to get up in arms when these same kids want to see a Friday The 13th flick? Just because it's Jesus? Sorry, but I don't see the difference! R-rated is R-rated, regardless of the subject matter!
	__________________ "Attention please..... a child has been lost in the Tunnel of Goats......" .......FATHER TED

5th March 2004, 05:19 PM	#49
Temporal Renegade Last of the Time Lords Join Date: May 2003 Location: University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople Posts: 1,893
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5th March 2004, 07:59 PM	#50
Globert Thinker Join Date: May 2003 Location: Inside the Oort cloud, one A.U. from this medium star. Posts: 208	not as bloody as the hype I really expected more gore, the antagonist was a departure, and some times I get tired of having to explain to my Xian wife the finer points of her delusion. I wanted to hack into the subtitles and have JC say/think " Me it's going to be a long day!" or "that's gonna leave a mark, luke and john!" Globe Edit to add There was only 1 fish sticker in the parking lot, I circled twice to make sure.(3:00pm Show wed.)
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5th March 2004, 10:03 PM	#51
the_ignored Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 254	Hah! Violence in "The Passion" isn't the ONLY thing they seem to get off on.... There's no context whatsoever for the pictures on this page, so your guess is as good as mine... I can only think it has something to do with the theme of "threadkillers"... :confused
	__________________ Lost: white ferret, answers to ‘Timothy’, intelligent, ex-mage’s familiar. May be temperamental. Very important that he be found. Chronic liar. 300gp finder’s fee. Hive Ward, 23 by the Ditch---We’ll see you coming, hold the ferret overhead.

5th March 2004, 10:38 PM	#52
Abdul Alhazred Yes, that one. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,476	Quote: Originally posted by Temporal Renegade Someone may have mentioned this already, so forgive me for repeating: Why are the Fundies saying that it's OK to take your kids to this R-rated flick, but they always seem to get up in arms when these same kids want to see a Friday The 13th flick? Just because it's Jesus? Sorry, but I don't see the difference! R-rated is R-rated, regardless of the subject matter! R-rated means accompanied by an adult is legal. The many children, and that includes small children down to infants, in the theater seriously bothers me. Reading about it in the New Testament is not the sane thing as actually seeing it .
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6th March 2004, 09:45 AM	#53
rachaella Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: State College, PA but my heart will remain in Rochester, NY for quite some time Posts: 467	Quote: Originally posted by Temporal Renegade Someone may have mentioned this already, so forgive me for repeating: Why are the Fundies saying that it's OK to take your kids to this R-rated flick, but they always seem to get up in arms when these same kids want to see a Friday The 13th flick? Just because it's Jesus? Sorry, but I don't see the difference! R-rated is R-rated, regardless of the subject matter! I would agree that its hypocritical but disagree that R-Rated is R-Rated regardless of subject matter and say that incredible amounts of violence are incredible amounts of violence, and the subject matter is of little importance.
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6th March 2004, 09:52 AM	#54
hammegk Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 8,422	Quote: Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred *Reading about it in the New Testament is not the sane* thing .... Tell us what you really think ..... remainder of quote: Quote: as actually seeing it .**
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9th March 2004, 04:28 PM	#55
Silicon Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,644	Quote: Originally posted by rachaella I would agree that its hypocritical but disagree that R-Rated is R-Rated regardless of subject matter and say that incredible amounts of violence are incredible amounts of violence, and the subject matter is of little importance. There's R-rated and there's R-rated. I've seen R-rated films that were less violent than PG-13 movies. It has to do with the way the violence is shown, as well as the reaction to violence. I find rape/torture to be the most unwatchable type of violence for me (I have been known to walk out of Tarantino movies), but I have no problem at all watching a slasher movie that treats the blood and gore as humorous of shown as part of a monster movie type of scare. Long, realistic suffering, protrayed convincingly by good actors sends me running for the door, blood or no blood. I could watch Freddy Kruger movies for hours, but I refuse to sit through Saving Private Ryan ever, ever again.
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9th March 2004, 06:33 PM	#56
UserGoogol Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,074	That's it. I'm making a Song of Solomon movie. It'll make millions!