Remember, Remember the 5th of November

MattusMaximus · 1st November 2009, 08:53 PM

Because we all know what that's about, right folks?

Anyone know the latest on protests against $cientology?

Knowledge Is Free.

DevilsAdvocate · 1st November 2009, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by MattusMaximus

Because we all know what that's about, right folks?

Anyone know the latest on protests against $cientology?

Knowledge Is Free.

Ummm...Guy Fawkes day in England? Supporting Protestants over Catholics? Something like that? Supporting the Establishment over Revolutionaries? Something like that?

I don’t know.

rockinkt · 2nd November 2009, 12:14 AM

Famke Janssen was born on Nov. 5...can't think of anything more important right now.

Akhenaten · 2nd November 2009, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by MattusMaximus

Because we all know what that's about, right folks?

Anyone know the latest on protests against $cientology?

Knowledge Is Free.

As a matter of fact . . .

Quote:

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A college student is suing the Nashville Church of Scientology, a security company and three off-duty Spring Hill police officers for $6 million. Thomas Parker said he was knocked to the ground, handcuffed and arrested, for nothing more than attempting to peacefully protest.

Linky

Also this . . .

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Expect us.

Checkmite · 2nd November 2009, 04:44 AM

What on earth does November 5 have to do with Scientology?

Akhenaten · 2nd November 2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

What on earth does November 5 have to do with Scientology?

The harpoons. Being manned, they are.

A linky with no name

Gord_in_Toronto · 2nd November 2009, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

What on earth does November 5 have to do with Scientology?

About as much as any other part of reality has to do with the "Church"?

dudalb · 2nd November 2009, 09:51 AM

I recommend Antonia Fraser's Excellent book on the Gunpowder plot. Great stuff.
Fascinating how a 17th Century Catholic equivilent of a modern day Islamic fanatic became a anarchist meme thanks to Alan Moore.

Cainkane1 · 2nd November 2009, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

Ummm...Guy Fawkes day in England? Supporting Protestants over Catholics? Something like that? Supporting the Establishment over Revolutionaries? Something like that?

I don’t know.

If Guy had been executed in a humane way none of you guys would be called guys.

Whiplash · 2nd November 2009, 12:38 PM

Oh God, now I'll have to see more of those awful masks.

dudalb · 2nd November 2009, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Whiplash

Oh God, now I'll have to see more of those awful masks.

I second that. Those "V for Vendetta" masks are so freaking tired.

Checkmite · 2nd November 2009, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

A linky with no name

Does not help. More correlation, but no explanation.

Was Guy Fawkes the first Scientologist or something?

Ron_Tomkins · 2nd November 2009, 02:49 PM

Oh boy... V is back and he's posting at the JREF forums.

Now I have seen everything.

MattusMaximus · 2nd November 2009, 07:47 PM

Interesting new Youtube video from Anonymous...

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More info at http://www.whyweprotest.net/en/

gnome · 2nd November 2009, 08:05 PM

Regarding the poem... perhaps someone better knowledgeable can explain that I'm mistaken--but does it seem to anyone else that the author abandons all meter for the last two lines? The beginning holds it so nicely...

tyr_13 · 2nd November 2009, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Does not help. More correlation, but no explanation.

Was Guy Fawkes the first Scientologist or something?

I'm guessing Anon uses Guy Fawkes because of V for Vendetta, and the parallel 'power of everyman' or the entire notion that the proletariat can at any time it wishes exercise extensive power over any organization while at the same time not being a salient hierarchy. The power of an ephemeral 'group' to target a strictly organized and well funded institution using the simplest of methods, and still win, is appealing to them.

tyr_13 · 2nd November 2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by gnome

Regarding the poem... perhaps someone better knowledgeable can explain that I'm mistaken--but does it seem to anyone else that the author abandons all meter for the last two lines? The beginning holds it so nicely...

Think of it more like a limerick and you'll see the beat.

Checkmite · 2nd November 2009, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

I'm guessing Anon uses Guy Fawkes because of V for Vendetta, and the parallel 'power of everyman' or the entire notion that the proletariat can at any time it wishes exercise extensive power over any organization while at the same time not being a salient hierarchy. The power of an ephemeral 'group' to target a strictly organized and well funded institution using the simplest of methods, and still win, is appealing to them.

I suppose that explanation will have to do. People will find inspiration in the oddest things.

In the meanwhile, I shall once again spectate while Anon OBLITERATES Scientology with another...picket.

Dr Adequate · 2nd November 2009, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by gnome

Regarding the poem... perhaps someone better knowledgeable can explain that I'm mistaken--but does it seem to anyone else that the author abandons all meter for the last two lines? The beginning holds it so nicely...

As I leaned it, it should be: "I see no reason / why gunpowder treason ..."

brodski · 2nd November 2009, 11:45 PM

Can anyone explain to me why we need to dress up like a religious fundamentalist terrorist (and an incompetent one at that) in order to protest against members of another sinister and powerful cult?

Rika · 2nd November 2009, 11:57 PM

Namely for anomni..
... DAMN YOU ANON!

gnome · 3rd November 2009, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

Think of it more like a limerick and you'll see the beat.

Trying to do so is what's tripping me up in the first place... the last line seems to be missing a couple of syllables for that.

brodski · 3rd November 2009, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Dr Adequate

As I leaned it, it should be: "I see no reason / why gunpowder treason ..."

As did I, then you need to stretch "ever" out to make the last line work.

Akhenaten · 3rd November 2009, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by brodski

Can anyone explain to me why we need to dress up like a religious fundamentalist terrorist (and an incompetent one at that) in order to protest against members of another sinister and powerful cult?

lulz

DevilsAdvocate · 3rd November 2009, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Cainkane1

If Guy had been executed in a humane way none of you guys would be called guys.

I am aware of the connection thanks to this wonderful site: Take Our Word For It. Of course I only even know the name Guy Fawkes because of some Vonnegut book. I forget which one. I think it was Palm Sunday.

brodski · 3rd November 2009, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

lulz

The kind of lulz we'd all have if the US based anti-Scientology protesters had to all dress up as Richard Reid.

skullerello · 3rd November 2009, 02:05 AM

I remember it because it's little Oni-skull's birthday! And he's a fairly bright little guy...

DevilsAdvocate · 3rd November 2009, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Akhenaten

Also this . . .

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Expect us.

I watched that video a couple of times and liked how the music played against the voice over. But I couldn't figure out how the music continued and changed through each viewing. Then I realized that I was playing Fantastic Contraption, and that was where the music was coming from. The music certainly fits.

Akhenaten · 4th November 2009, 03:52 AM

That video sent chills down my spine when I first saw it. I would hate to think how it affected many scientologists, although the fact that they're deserting in droves might provide some indication.

Akhenaten · 4th November 2009, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by brodski

The kind of lulz we'd all have if the US based anti-Scientology protesters had to all dress up as Richard Reid.

That might work

Akhenaten · 4th November 2009, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

I suppose that explanation will have to do. People will find inspiration in the oddest things.

In the meanwhile, I shall once again spectate while Anon OBLITERATES Scientology with another...picket.

"November 5th is Guy Fawkes day. On this day we will lead a march.

A march like no one has ever seen before.

We will stand upon the steps of our enemies and give awareness to those who watch."

Rolfe · 4th November 2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Cainkane1

If Guy had been executed in a humane way none of you guys would be called guys.

He was hanged, or so they told us at school.

Why they were telling us about English history rather escapes me at the moment.

Rolfe.

brodski · 4th November 2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Rolfe

He was hanged, or so they told us at school.

he was hanged (without benefit of drop) and whilst still alive dismembered.

Quote:

Why they were telling us about English history rather escapes me at the moment.

Rolfe.

Didn't you learn any other foreign history?

What is the Canadian education system coming to!

m_huber · 4th November 2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

Trying to do so is what's tripping me up in the first place... the last line seems to be missing a couple of syllables for that.

Perhaps this will help you:

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dudalb · 4th November 2009, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Rolfe

He was hanged, or so they told us at school.

Why they were telling us about English history rather escapes me at the moment.

Rolfe.

He was hung ,drawn, and quartered....the William Wallace treatment.

Rolfe · 4th November 2009, 12:02 PM

Ah, that was probably considered a bit too gory for delicate young minds.

(ETA: Come to think of it, I don't think it was considered too gory for even younger minds in the 1305 context though....)

Rolfe.

brodski · 4th November 2009, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

He was hung ,drawn, and quartered....the William Wallace treatment.

I just looked it up, although he was sentenced to be hung ,drawn, and quartered he managed to effectively commit suicide partway through his execution- he broke his neck and was dead before they got onto the drawing and quartering.

Mojo · 4th November 2009, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Rolfe

Why they were telling us about English history rather escapes me at the moment.

Tried to blow up the king of Scotland, didn't he?

gnome · 4th November 2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by m_huber

Perhaps this will help you:

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I don't know if that counts. Hugo Weaving could probably read a grocery list and make it sound like poetry.

But it does help, yes.

gtc · 4th November 2009, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Tried to blow up the king of Scotland, didn't he?

Indeed. King James was the King of both England and Scotland at the time.

1st November 2009, 08:53 PM	#1
MattusMaximus Intellectual Gladiator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the midst of a vast, beautiful & uncaring universe Posts: 8,354	Remember, Remember the 5th of November Because we all know what that's about, right folks? Anyone know the latest on protests against $cientology? Knowledge Is Free.
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1st November 2009, 11:07 PM	#2
DevilsAdvocate Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,316	Originally Posted by MattusMaximus Because we all know what that's about, right folks? Anyone know the latest on protests against $cientology? Knowledge Is Free. Ummm...Guy Fawkes day in England? Supporting Protestants over Catholics? Something like that? Supporting the Establishment over Revolutionaries? Something like that? I don’t know.
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2nd November 2009, 12:14 AM	#3
rockinkt Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 468	Famke Janssen was born on Nov. 5...can't think of anything more important right now.
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2nd November 2009, 04:44 AM	#5
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Third in line Posts: 9,302	What on earth does November 5 have to do with Scientology?
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2nd November 2009, 07:20 AM	#6
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 9,777	Originally Posted by Checkmite What on earth does November 5 have to do with Scientology? The harpoons. Being manned, they are. A linky with no name
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2nd November 2009, 07:42 AM	#7
Gord_in_Toronto Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,505	Originally Posted by Checkmite What on earth does November 5 have to do with Scientology? About as much as any other part of reality has to do with the "Church"?
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2nd November 2009, 09:51 AM	#8
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 16,887	I recommend Antonia Fraser's Excellent book on the Gunpowder plot. Great stuff. Fascinating how a 17th Century Catholic equivilent of a modern day Islamic fanatic became a anarchist meme thanks to Alan Moore.

2nd November 2009, 09:55 AM	#9
Cainkane1 Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The great American southeast Posts: 3,916	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate Ummm...Guy Fawkes day in England? Supporting Protestants over Catholics? Something like that? Supporting the Establishment over Revolutionaries? Something like that? I don’t know. If Guy had been executed in a humane way none of you guys would be called guys.
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2nd November 2009, 12:38 PM	#10
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2nd November 2009, 02:08 PM	#11
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 16,887	Originally Posted by Whiplash Oh God, now I'll have to see more of those awful masks. I second that. Those "V for Vendetta" masks are so freaking tired.

2nd November 2009, 02:36 PM	#12
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Third in line Posts: 9,302	Originally Posted by Akhenaten A linky with no name Does not help. More correlation, but no explanation. Was Guy Fawkes the first Scientologist or something?
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2nd November 2009, 02:49 PM	#13
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2nd November 2009, 08:05 PM	#15
gnome Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,782	Regarding the poem... perhaps someone better knowledgeable can explain that I'm mistaken--but does it seem to anyone else that the author abandons all meter for the last two lines? The beginning holds it so nicely...
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2nd November 2009, 08:18 PM	#16
tyr_13 Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,768	Originally Posted by Checkmite Does not help. More correlation, but no explanation. Was Guy Fawkes the first Scientologist or something? I'm guessing Anon uses Guy Fawkes because of V for Vendetta, and the parallel 'power of everyman' or the entire notion that the proletariat can at any time it wishes exercise extensive power over any organization while at the same time not being a salient hierarchy. The power of an ephemeral 'group' to target a strictly organized and well funded institution using the simplest of methods, and still win, is appealing to them.
tyr_13 Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,768	__________________ Circled nothing is still nothing. "Nothing will stop the U.S. from being a world leader, not even a handful of adults who want their kids to take science lessons from a book that mentions unicorns six times." -UNLoVedRebel Look at the puppy...the puppy is good.

2nd November 2009, 08:19 PM	#17
tyr_13 Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,768	Originally Posted by gnome Regarding the poem... perhaps someone better knowledgeable can explain that I'm mistaken--but does it seem to anyone else that the author abandons all meter for the last two lines? The beginning holds it so nicely... Think of it more like a limerick and you'll see the beat.
tyr_13 Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,768	__________________ Circled nothing is still nothing. "Nothing will stop the U.S. from being a world leader, not even a handful of adults who want their kids to take science lessons from a book that mentions unicorns six times." -UNLoVedRebel Look at the puppy...the puppy is good.

2nd November 2009, 08:44 PM	#18
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Third in line Posts: 9,302	Originally Posted by tyr_13 I'm guessing Anon uses Guy Fawkes because of V for Vendetta, and the parallel 'power of everyman' or the entire notion that the proletariat can at any time it wishes exercise extensive power over any organization while at the same time not being a salient hierarchy. The power of an ephemeral 'group' to target a strictly organized and well funded institution using the simplest of methods, and still win, is appealing to them. I suppose that explanation will have to do. People will find inspiration in the oddest things. In the meanwhile, I shall once again spectate while Anon OBLITERATES Scientology with another...picket.
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2nd November 2009, 11:39 PM	#19
Dr Adequate Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waiting Long Enough By The River Posts: 17,902	Originally Posted by gnome Regarding the poem... perhaps someone better knowledgeable can explain that I'm mistaken--but does it seem to anyone else that the author abandons all meter for the last two lines? The beginning holds it so nicely... As I leaned it, it should be: "I see no reason / why gunpowder treason ..."

2nd November 2009, 11:45 PM	#20
brodski faceless bureaucrat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham Posts: 12,031	Can anyone explain to me why we need to dress up like a religious fundamentalist terrorist (and an incompetent one at that) in order to protest against members of another sinister and powerful cult?
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2nd November 2009, 11:57 PM	#21
Rika Guardian of the Setting Sun Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Graham, WA Posts: 3,743	Namely for anomni.. ... DAMN YOU ANON!
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3rd November 2009, 12:55 AM	#22
gnome Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,782	Originally Posted by tyr_13 Think of it more like a limerick and you'll see the beat. Trying to do so is what's tripping me up in the first place... the last line seems to be missing a couple of syllables for that.
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3rd November 2009, 01:04 AM	#23
brodski faceless bureaucrat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham Posts: 12,031	Originally Posted by Dr Adequate As I leaned it, it should be: "I see no reason / why gunpowder treason ..." As did I, then you need to stretch "ever" out to make the last line work.
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3rd November 2009, 01:38 AM	#24
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 9,777	Originally Posted by brodski Can anyone explain to me why we need to dress up like a religious fundamentalist terrorist (and an incompetent one at that) in order to protest against members of another sinister and powerful cult? lulz
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3rd November 2009, 01:59 AM	#25
DevilsAdvocate Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,316	Originally Posted by Cainkane1 If Guy had been executed in a humane way none of you guys would be called guys. I am aware of the connection thanks to this wonderful site: Take Our Word For It. Of course I only even know the name Guy Fawkes because of some Vonnegut book. I forget which one. I think it was Palm Sunday.
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3rd November 2009, 02:02 AM	#26
brodski faceless bureaucrat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham Posts: 12,031	Originally Posted by Akhenaten lulz The kind of lulz we'd all have if the US based anti-Scientology protesters had to all dress up as Richard Reid.
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3rd November 2009, 02:05 AM	#27
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4th November 2009, 03:52 AM	#29
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 9,777	That video sent chills down my spine when I first saw it. I would hate to think how it affected many scientologists, although the fact that they're deserting in droves might provide some indication.
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4th November 2009, 03:54 AM	#30
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 9,777	Originally Posted by brodski The kind of lulz we'd all have if the US based anti-Scientology protesters had to all dress up as Richard Reid. That might work
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4th November 2009, 04:02 AM	#31
Akhenaten Heretic Pharaoh Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pi-Broadford, Australia Posts: 9,777	Originally Posted by Checkmite I suppose that explanation will have to do. People will find inspiration in the oddest things. In the meanwhile, I shall once again spectate while Anon OBLITERATES Scientology with another...picket. "November 5th is Guy Fawkes day. On this day we will lead a march. A march like no one has ever seen before. We will stand upon the steps of our enemies and give awareness to those who watch."
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4th November 2009, 11:13 AM	#32
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 22,386	Originally Posted by Cainkane1 If Guy had been executed in a humane way none of you guys would be called guys. He was hanged, or so they told us at school. Why they were telling us about English history rather escapes me at the moment. Rolfe.
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4th November 2009, 11:29 AM	#33
brodski faceless bureaucrat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham Posts: 12,031	Originally Posted by Rolfe He was hanged, or so they told us at school. he was hanged (without benefit of drop) and whilst still alive dismembered. Quote: Why they were telling us about English history rather escapes me at the moment. Rolfe. Didn't you learn any other foreign history? What is the Canadian education system coming to!
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4th November 2009, 11:58 AM	#35
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 16,887	Originally Posted by Rolfe He was hanged, or so they told us at school. Why they were telling us about English history rather escapes me at the moment. Rolfe. He was hung ,drawn, and quartered....the William Wallace treatment.

4th November 2009, 12:02 PM	#36
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 22,386	Ah, that was probably considered a bit too gory for delicate young minds. (ETA: Come to think of it, I don't think it was considered too gory for even younger minds in the 1305 context though....) Rolfe.
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4th November 2009, 12:02 PM	#37
brodski faceless bureaucrat Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough and Burnham Posts: 12,031	Originally Posted by dudalb He was hung ,drawn, and quartered....the William Wallace treatment. I just looked it up, although he was sentenced to be hung ,drawn, and quartered he managed to effectively commit suicide partway through his execution- he broke his neck and was dead before they got onto the drawing and quartering.
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4th November 2009, 12:05 PM	#38
Mojo Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 15,947	Originally Posted by Rolfe Why they were telling us about English history rather escapes me at the moment. Tried to blow up the king of Scotland, didn't he?
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4th November 2009, 03:06 PM	#40
gtc Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the downunderverse Posts: 7,109	Originally Posted by Mojo Tried to blow up the king of Scotland, didn't he? Indeed. King James was the King of both England and Scotland at the time.
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